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Nexus Day Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau 594	Posted - 2013.05.25 13:07:00 - [1] - Quote If implants were made to expire instead of being destroyed to fuel the economy, and if podding did not occur, would people PvP more? Especially considering one of the easiest ways to get implants is through FW? Sometimes the cost of the ship is secondary to the cost of implants. If the risk of losing implants in combat went away my guess is more people would participate. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
Eram Fidard Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 122	Posted - 2013.05.25 13:10:00 - [2] - Quote No, the risk-adverse would simply find another reason to stay docked.
flakeys Interstellar Corporation of Science and Technology Interstellar Confederation 1111	Posted - 2013.05.25 13:11:00 - [3] - Quote Or let's just remove all implants from the game? We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Riot Girl Riot Club 945	Posted - 2013.05.25 13:11:00 - [4] - Quote Nope, they'd just find another excuse not to undock. Oh god.
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 1847	Posted - 2013.05.25 13:15:00 - [5] - Quote flakeys wrote: Or let's just remove all implants from the game? Or add temporary boosters for the hardwire slots that do the same or similar, so a pod loss quite as expensive but you need to stay supplied (from low-sec/pirate sources, no less). Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
flakeys Interstellar Corporation of Science and Technology Interstellar Confederation 1111	Posted - 2013.05.25 13:20:00 - [6] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: flakeys wrote: Or let's just remove all implants from the game? Or add temporary boosters for the hardwire slots that do the same or similar, so a pod loss quite as expensive but you need to stay supplied (from low-sec/pirate sources, no less). No just remove it completely .That way it won't bother anyone who wants to pvp right? Keeping one clone with a cheap impsset or none at all is such a small sacrifice.If even that is too much of an effort then completely remove that precious bonus of yours so you don't have to ''decide'' if you should risk it. Btw with ''yours'' i do not mean you abrazzar but anyone who uses implants as an excuse why they can't pvp. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Six Six Six Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 108	Posted - 2013.05.25 13:22:00 - [7] - Quote flakeys wrote: Or let's just remove all implants from the game? Let's remove learning implants from the game. @ op I think it would mean more people would PvP or at least be willing to experiment with it, but there are people that won't PvP no matter what change you do. Note: PvP that I refer to is combat PvP, not those that like to play Monopoly.
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 345	Posted - 2013.05.25 13:23:00 - [8] - Quote Nexus Day wrote: If implants were made to expire instead of being destroyed to fuel the economy, and if podding did not occur, would people PvP more? Especially considering one of the easiest ways to get implants is through FW? Sometimes the cost of the ship is secondary to the cost of implants. If the risk of losing implants in combat went away my guess is more people would participate. Risk is part of the fun in this game. You should not play EVE if you don't like risk. If you cannot afford to lose those implants, do not use them. Remove insurance.
Riot Girl Riot Club 945	Posted - 2013.05.25 13:25:00 - [9] - Quote If you remove implants from the game, it would make killing pods pointless. Oh god.
flakeys Interstellar Corporation of Science and Technology Interstellar Confederation 1111	Posted - 2013.05.25 13:27:00 - [10] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: If you remove implants from the game, it would make killing pods pointless. So then we stop killing pods ... I can keep this up all day . We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 345	Posted - 2013.05.25 13:27:00 - [11] - Quote Six Six Six wrote: flakeys wrote: Or let's just remove all implants from the game? Let's remove learning implants from the game. I'm fine with that. They do not add anything useful to the game really. Remove insurance.
Six Six Six Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 108	Posted - 2013.05.25 13:29:00 - [12] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: If you remove implants from the game, it would make killing pods pointless. Not at all, there's still combat implants and clone costs (even if they are reduced in cost). Also means they could end up outside of the combat area.
Jarod Garamonde Action Bastards 244	Posted - 2013.05.25 13:34:00 - [13] - Quote Nexus Day wrote: If implants were made to expire instead of being destroyed to fuel the economy, and if podding did not occur, would people PvP more? Especially considering one of the easiest ways to get implants is through FW? Sometimes the cost of the ship is secondary to the cost of implants. If the risk of losing implants in combat went away my guess is more people would participate. If you're scared of getting podded, I feel bad for you. "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II
Riot Girl Riot Club 946	Posted - 2013.05.25 13:35:00 - [14] - Quote flakeys wrote: So then we stop killing pods ... Zzz.... Six Six Six wrote: clone costs (even if they are reduced in cost). Also means they could end up outside of the combat area. Zzz.... Oh god.
Six Six Six Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 108	Posted - 2013.05.25 13:39:00 - [15] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: flakeys wrote: So then we stop killing pods ... Zzz.... Six Six Six wrote: clone costs (even if they are reduced in cost). Also means they could end up outside of the combat area. Zzz.... Riot Girl's replies Zzzz........
Seven Koskanaiken Nothing Is True Everything Is Permitted 172	Posted - 2013.05.25 14:11:00 - [16] - Quote They should make implants player made
Six Six Six Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 109	Posted - 2013.05.25 14:14:00 - [17] - Quote Seven Koskanaiken wrote: They should make implants player made Don't mind that as long as they're not learning implants.
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 1848	Posted - 2013.05.25 14:21:00 - [18] - Quote Seven Koskanaiken wrote: They should make implants player made You should get BPCs from 'reverse engineering' player corpses. What you can get out of it would depend on the attached killmail. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Brooks Puuntai Solar Nexus. 1478	Posted - 2013.05.25 14:27:00 - [19] - Quote Outside of null and the occasional SBing camps in Low, it's quite difficult to lose a pod. So if people are too worried about losing a pod they will find some other excuse not to pvp. But like Abrazzar posted, adding in learning boosters would be best to mitigate cost due to it being a consumable. So lower short term cost, higher long term cost(for people who don't Pvp). CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Idea for Improving NPE.
Riot Girl Riot Club 947	Posted - 2013.05.25 14:45:00 - [20] - Quote I prefer ideas which encourage PvP to ideas which cater for the excuses of those who don't wish to PvP. Oh god.
Xavier Liche ACME Mineral and Gas 17	Posted - 2013.05.25 14:48:00 - [21] - Quote Nexus Day wrote: If implants were made to expire instead of being destroyed to fuel the economy, and if podding did not occur, would people PvP more? Especially considering one of the easiest ways to get implants is through FW? Sometimes the cost of the ship is secondary to the cost of implants. If the risk of losing implants in combat went away my guess is more people would participate. This is the start of the road to hell, where all PvP is instanced... Not just no, FK NO!!
Darth Maule Viziam Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.05.25 14:49:00 - [22] - Quote I thought the whole fight to get through their ship was for that euphoric feeling that only podding gives .
Gealbhan 219	Posted - 2013.05.25 14:50:00 - [23] - Quote Or, y'know, have a blank jump clone and x-fer to that if you want to go pew pew. It doesn't take that long to raise standings enough to install a jc.
CanI haveyourstuff Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2013.05.25 15:05:00 - [24] - Quote /signed to remove learning implants. I would definetly PVP more if I dont have to fck around with jumpclones so my +5-s could be safe.....
flakeys Interstellar Corporation of Science and Technology Interstellar Confederation 1117	Posted - 2013.05.25 15:06:00 - [25] - Quote Gealbhan wrote: Or, y'know, have a blank jump clone and x-fer to that if you want to go pew pew. It doesn't take that long to raise standings enough to install a jc. Appearantly that is WAYYYYYYYYYYY too much work. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
flakeys Interstellar Corporation of Science and Technology Interstellar Confederation 1117	Posted - 2013.05.25 15:06:00 - [26] - Quote CanI haveyourstuff wrote: /signed to remove learning implants. I would definetly PVP more if I dont have to fck around with jumpclones so my +5-s could be safe..... You allready can have 4 of those .... how many clones would be enough ? 10 , 50 , 100 ? We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
baltec1 Bat Country 6657	Posted - 2013.05.25 15:08:00 - [27] - Quote Eram Fidard wrote: No, the risk-adverse would simply find another reason to stay docked. This needs to be said again.
Riot Girl Riot Club 947	Posted - 2013.05.25 15:14:00 - [28] - Quote CanI haveyourstuff wrote: /signed to remove learning implants. I would definetly PVP more if I dont have to fck around with jumpclones so my +5-s could be safe..... Why don't you just get rid of them? Oh god.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 9565	Posted - 2013.05.25 15:17:00 - [29] - Quote flakeys wrote: Or let's just remove all implants from the game? Let's make all ships cost 100 ISK! 1 Kings 12:11
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 9565	Posted - 2013.05.25 15:18:00 - [30] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Eram Fidard wrote: No, the risk-adverse would simply find another reason to stay docked. This needs to be said again. Agreed 1 Kings 12:11

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