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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:40:00 -
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meh, wardeccing eve u is so last month...
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:58:00 -
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 Originally by: Hast
meh, wardeccing eve u is so last month...
yea but it seems like this month aswell 
for any bored pvper, ur welcome to join up for the duration and pass on some valuable knowlage to some peaple who are willing to learn 
to huff/2nd panza, a simple and easy question, why again?
nway, feel free to camp me 24/7 but i won`t entertain u 
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The Hooch
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Posted - 2005.10.25 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Edited by: Avon on 25/10/2005 13:09:04
Originally by: The Hooch
Frankly spreaking, CCP and the GM's should deal with this.
No.
It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not, it is VALID.
E-U are just another corp, and no exceptions should be made for any player corps.
If you don't like what is happening in game, do something about it in game.
This is not an issue for CCP, it is an issue for the players.
How about you open up some diplomatic channels and try and talk these guys out of the war? I'm sure they will listen, you are clearly a master debator.
Ok, I am going to say this once.
Members of BoB, I am not looking for a running gun battle here in these thread.
ALL I MEAN is this, EU is doing a nice thing for new players and this helps us all, even you.
I am all for PvP mind you. But taking T2 ships and parking them out side of a station and ganking players that are days or weeks old is just lame. I cannot see you guys, or the The 5 doing such a thing and its simply hurts the game and thereby hurts us all.
To answer Avon's comment, if I was not needed by Vertigo in our party in the east right now, I would take some buddys to E U home space and protect them and deal with these guys. In fact it would be great if several of us (you guys I mean) went together and made a statement to these less than honorable so'so's.
The facts as I see it.
1. Eve needs to grow are larger player base.
2. CCP needs to make money to pay devs to make the game better and better.
3. New Eve players need help, E U does that for us
5. BoB, VC, The 5, you name it get a pool of players that at least have a few chops that get them started.
6. Un-happy noobs quit game, CCP makes less money.
7. Eve runs out of gas and dies.
I suggested the GM's because, Eve is at war right now and those who might help cannot.
How any player or Alliance of the quality of BoB could disagree with me on this mistifing to me.
Did I miss anything?
Can you hear me now?
Hooch
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Hyki Lomo
Edited by: Hyki Lomo on 24/10/2005 23:34:12
One war over, another one begins.
Today however saw the joining of TheKiller8 to EvE University, some say a coincidence. I myself think it'll give him someone to kill :D.
Edit : To avoid some confusion, I am in no way affiliated to 'HUFF' or '2nd Panza Army'. I am merely stating what I have seen.
Well.. Piracy worked until my security rate dropped to the point where Concord started to dislike my presence in 1.0 systems. Then I noticed how people apparently enjoy using n00b-corps (just a quick term, I know what Eve University does for the eve-community and I have the utmost respect for them) as punch bags I thought it might be nice to help make this particular punch bag fling back a little.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:16:00 -
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lol Hooch
u`d be welcomed with open arms and beer ready to be served
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Jhered Stern
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:36:00 -
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A Huff alt corp? Hmmm... I seriously doubt that as I have known these guys since the beginning of Huff Technologies and this is certainly not their way of doing things. I know the leaders of Huff Technologies personally and I just don't see them wasting their time on ALTS. If I am wrong then I guess they just really beacome bored with the game.
Jhered Out!
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:39:00 -
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Well the CEO of our 'new' enemy happens to have the corp 'Huff Technologies' in his employment history.. you know.. like five times. Same goes for the only other member I've seen so far.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jhered Stern
A Huff alt corp? Hmmm... I seriously doubt that as I have known these guys since the beginning of Huff Technologies and this is certainly not their way of doing things. I know the leaders of Huff Technologies personally and I just don't see them wasting their time on ALTS. If I am wrong then I guess they just really beacome bored with the game.
Jhered Out!
look up ceo of 2nd panza Adara Algar and Joey Walker2, i think that answers ur question
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Caeden Nicomachean
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: TheKiller8
Well the CEO of our 'new' enemy happens to have the corp 'Huff Technologies' in his employment history.. you know.. like five times. Same goes for the only other member I've seen so far.
Right, not alts, mains - that begged out of Huff during the war, laid low till the supporting groups left the area and cancelled their war, then redecced EU under the new name.
Rather slimy if you ask me. 
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2005.10.26 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kerushi
Originally by: Jhered Stern
A Huff alt corp? Hmmm... I seriously doubt that as I have known these guys since the beginning of Huff Technologies and this is certainly not their way of doing things. I know the leaders of Huff Technologies personally and I just don't see them wasting their time on ALTS. If I am wrong then I guess they just really beacome bored with the game.
Jhered Out!
look up ceo of 2nd panza Adara Algar and Joey Walker2, i think that answers ur question
Neither of these pilots are old school huff to my knowledge, what was the outcome of the huff war anyway? (not been ingame for a week or so to check on it  )
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Mystiel Raleigh
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Posted - 2005.10.26 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Caeden Nicomachean
I suggested it before - form an Eve University Alliance. This raises the war costs to more than a pittance and opens the door to stratifying EU into different sections (pvp training, research/industrial, etc), as well as provides an umbrella for similar corps to aggregate to the "train the new players" cause. Then establish relations with every alliance there is...get the entire Eve universe behind the idea of an EU that people keep their hands off of.
CCP can't do anything to these idiots, they are using game mechanics. EU needs to use them as well.
This is a great idea, and not just for the war. If you seperate the branches of training into different corps, it'll definitely increase organization. And you'd all be linked by alliance chat anyway.
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Caeden Nicomachean
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Posted - 2005.10.26 03:23:00 -
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Quote:
Neither of these pilots are old school huff to my knowledge, what was the outcome of the huff war anyway? (not been ingame for a week or so to check on it )
Huff retracted the war.
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Morning Maniac
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Posted - 2005.10.26 08:35:00 -
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Let's put some names to the alts then. Aldara Algar the CEO of 2nd Panza is the same person as Hettar. Joey Walker2 = Caeneus. 2nd accounts.
MM
Channel "EVE University"
www.eve-university.cjb.net (ingame)
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.10.26 08:47:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 26/10/2005 08:48:07
Originally by: TheKiller8
Well the CEO of our 'new' enemy happens to have the corp 'Huff Technologies' in his employment history.. you know.. like five times. Same goes for the only other member I've seen so far.
To be fair lots of players have Huff in their employment history.
When I left Huff I started a corp called Hidden Daggers, but that was in no way a Huff 'alt' corp (even though it contained a lot of ex-Huff members) .. in fact at one point we considered dec'ing them for a laugh.
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.10.26 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Slaveabuser
Originally by: Sorja
All right, CCP ban all the accounts of those griefers.
Problem solved, move on, nothing to see here.
Griefers?
Were you born that stupid or is that something you actually had to work on?
Oh? you have to resort to insults to make a point?
Do you have a point in the first place?
Your comment, as well as your name in the first place, look very immature to me.
You obviously don't know what griefing encompasses in PvP games, like you don't seem to realize how helpfull, if not necessary, corporations like EVE-U and people like Morning Maniac are for the community.
Would you by chance be someone only caring about his own satisfaction?
Wouldn't you be one screaming bloody xPlO17 if EVE-U moved all his pilots in a temporary corp to escape the war?
EVE has a trash reputation when it comes to his community. Nothing made up here, this comes from polls, whoever runs them.
And this trash reputation come from a small minority, because EVE only stands by his community.
I said ban the griefers.
I repeat, ban the griefers.
You are not happy with that?
All the same.
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Adara Algar
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Posted - 2005.10.26 16:16:00 -
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The new war between the 2nd Panza Army and Eve uni is not affiliated with huff tech in any way, although as it is now well known i am the alt of Hettar "captain" in the ranks of huff technologys. The 2nd Panza Army was born to gain fresh talent to fill the ranks and the best way to learn pvp in my experience is to be at war, the fact that the 2nd Panza Army war dec'd eve uni is not a malicious act but rather as a passing memory of where i can find a corp willing to give a fight but not so difficult that it interupts training purposes, i say this as a point of fact HUFF TECHNOLOGYS IS NOT SUPPLYING AMMO, SHIPS OR CAPITAL IN AND SHAPE OR FORM TO THE 2ND PANZA ARMY!the calibur of the pilots within the 2nd Panza Army is not great, but with training they might become some thing to be reckon'd with, as for any pilot in this game they must start some where. And if Eve university is so upset over these wars that beckon there doors then i suggest that they find a new game that does not involve pvp.
Also so to Eve uni's defence i say this i have seen the calibur of your pilots and you held your own quite well, and the fact that you can whine so much to this new war decaration even when it from relitive noobs to the combat side of this game and the fact that your pilots now have more experience in fighting than the 2nd Panza Army you shouldnt find this war so intolerable.
i am also an honourable person, if eve uni feels that they are not in a position to fight this war then i am open to negotiations of there formal surrender to the 2nd Panza Army
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BillyBong2
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Posted - 2005.10.26 16:22:00 -
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Where do I sign up to assist Eve University?
I'll supply my own ships and everything.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: Kerushi on 26/10/2005 16:29:01
Originally by: BillyBong2
Where do I sign up to assist Eve University?
I'll supply my own ships and everything.
thank you for the offer Billy
You can apply at one of our offices. They are located at:
ò Nourvukaiken IV - Moon 2 - Caldari Steel Factory
ò Adrallezoen II - Moon 1 - Freedom Extention Storage
ò Auberulle V - TransStellar Shipping Storage
ò Scolluzer XI - Moon 2 - X-sense Chemical Storage
ò Isendeldik IX - Moon 3 - Pend Insurance Investment Bank
anyone online with the role to accept will do it at first oppertunity as there is still an open door policy 
many will appriciate it
edit: Nourvukaiken is our HQ system as shown in the corp info
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Morning Maniac
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Posted - 2005.10.26 17:12:00 -
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You missed a few offices on that list. We're located in every starter station in EVE. A full list is on our recruiting thread which I refuse to go look for on this dial up connection at work.
To Hettar: Have you actually read what I said? I'm not complaining, just announcing. I've always stated it's inside the rules what you do and I'm not calling for ccp to ban you, I just call for you to stop it. Sure we can beat you, that's not the point. You're stopping our usual work, that is my point.
I'm not buying that Huff isn't financing this operation though. I'm sure that the ISK flow goes Hettar -> Aldara and not vice versa. Since Adara flies a npc station most of the time the only way to get to 2nd Panza is through Huff.
If you do want to get some new guys to experience pvp, an admirable cause, declare on Huff and play with your own friends, make it mutual and save yourself some isk in the process.
Finally I would like to ask all Huff/Panza members to pull their spies out of our corp. I am sure that everyone in the Uni would greatly appreciate that.
MM
Channel "EVE University"
www.eve-university.cjb.net (ingame)
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Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2005.10.26 17:30:00 -
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Edited by: Pa1nbringr on 26/10/2005 17:31:01
i think some of you people instigate way too much, and morning maniac, i seriously doubt it bandit is gonna give isk to hettar's alt corp
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.10.26 17:31:00 -
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lol @ aopprently hard nut merc corps war deccing a newb training corp
Yes very brave and um l33t
grow the f**k up
Griefers
Such is Life
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 17:46:00 -
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"The new war between the 2nd Panza Army and Eve uni is not affiliated with huff tech in any way, although as it is now well known i am the alt of Hettar "captain" in the ranks of huff technologys."
- We assumed he kept a grudge for winning the war in isk costs with help from allies, motive Hettar?.
"The 2nd Panza Army was born to gain fresh talent to fill the ranks and the best way to learn pvp in my experience is to be at war", Corperation description of 2nd panza army:
"objectives : protect the state protect the
allies kill the innocent"
Military school? ya right, u think we are stupid?
"the fact that the 2nd Panza Army war dec'd eve uni is not a malicious act but rather as a passing memory of where i can find a corp willing to give a fight but not so difficult that it interupts training purposes, i say this as a point of fact"
True, some of our members faught back with the help of allies who came to the rescue by declaring war on Huff, but, the cost was high as newbies in corp had to leave, newbies who wanted to join couldn`t and most important, newbies who signedup even with the risk, we`re "neglected" as attention was focused on the war and with an open door policy it was to easy for a spy to know what`s going on.
"And if Eve university is so upset over these wars that beckon there doors then i suggest that they find a new game that does not involve pvp."
Aiming for the closure for eve uni as we are forced to pvp and can`t to the thing we want, help the new comers to eve!
"Also so to Eve uni's defence i say this i have seen the calibur of your pilots and you held your own quite well, and the fact that you can whine so much to this new war decaration even when it from relitive noobs to the combat side of this game and the fact that your pilots now have more experience in fighting than the 2nd Panza Army you shouldnt find this war so intolerable."
Same as the abouve, we can`t accept new comers as the risk of losing the few isk they have would probably kill their moral and quit (trial or not) after being podded once or twice.
Helping in our public chan can be done to some extend but still severly limits our efforts as alot of stuff is in the corperate hanger for them to use.
"i am also an honourable person, if eve uni feels that they are not in a position to fight this war then i am open to negotiations of there formal surrender to the 2nd Panza Army"
Running short on money? define honour
this post is a personal view of how i look at it but it seems some members of huff hold a grudge as it costed them more isk in losses then what they expected to be easy kills (big thanks to people and corperations who came for the rescue!!!)
Hettar. buddy, mate, if u want to teahc pvp, do like MM suggested, war dec huff, make it mutual and keep losses to your corperation
newbies can`t get anywhere if they can`t mine, do agents or anything else besides of losing ships (wich are coverd), if they wanted pvp right away, they could have joined a pvp corp
big chance i`ll be the next flame, but ur post says nothing besides the abouve!
Any corp or person who can spare the time and money, i`d like to request a personal favor by war deccing HUFF for a duration, even a day would be appriciated by many people, this way, Hettar`s money making machine is out of action for financing this war.
alot to ask i know, but during last war a few corperations jumped in for no compensation except helping out those in need as MM has done for any new comer who has passed Eve university`s door!
long post, i swear this will be the last time i do this...flame away! (away as away from forum...)
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Rekh Wuthrich
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Posted - 2005.10.26 17:51:00 -
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Only entity truly being hurt in all of this is HUFF/2nd Panza Army. Respect is a hard thing to regain in EVE.
Blah blah, yes it's legal game mechanics. Doesn't mean that everyone shouldn't look down on these bored chumps for combating a corp that obviously is a tremendous asset to everyone playing EVE.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rekh Wuthrich
Only entity truly being hurt in all of this is HUFF/2nd Panza Army. Respect is a hard thing to regain in EVE.
Blah blah, yes it's legal game mechanics. Doesn't mean that everyone shouldn't look down on these bored chumps for combating a corp that obviously is a tremendous asset to everyone playing EVE.
Good luck, EU. I know you'll take care of business.
TY
they have done that allready in the previous war as u can see from the 12 pages long thread
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Morning Maniac
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Posted - 2005.10.26 17:56:00 -
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Reading Kerushi's bit I came up with one huge advantage for Hettar and everyone else who reads the forums to stop this war. While this war lasts all Kerushi does is post on the forums!
I can't promise he'll stop when the war does but it might get a bit less since once every few minutes he'll have to drag the ore from his cargo to the can.
And don't worry about me, I don't undock in peace time either.
MM
Channel "EVE University"
www.eve-university.cjb.net (ingame)
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 18:01:00 -
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forum w***ing lvl3 training to lvl4 is starting to work, post are getting longer at times 
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2005.10.26 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sorja
Originally by: Slaveabuser
Originally by: Sorja
All right, CCP ban all the accounts of those griefers.
Problem solved, move on, nothing to see here.
Griefers?
Were you born that stupid or is that something you actually had to work on?
Oh? you have to resort to insults to make a point?
Do you have a point in the first place?
Your comment, as well as your name in the first place, look very immature to me.
You obviously don't know what griefing encompasses in PvP games, like you don't seem to realize how helpfull, if not necessary, corporations like EVE-U and people like Morning Maniac are for the community.
Would you by chance be someone only caring about his own satisfaction?
Wouldn't you be one screaming bloody xPlO17 if EVE-U moved all his pilots in a temporary corp to escape the war?
EVE has a trash reputation when it comes to his community. Nothing made up here, this comes from polls, whoever runs them.
And this trash reputation come from a small minority, because EVE only stands by his community.
I said ban the griefers.
I repeat, ban the griefers.
You are not happy with that?
All the same.
Might as well ban the game itself. Once you start banning griefers, where do you stop? Where is that fine line? Is it not griefing to shoot all neutrals on sight?
There is a difference between wardeccing EVE-U and defending contested space, granted, but there is no definite line. Calling for bans isn't the way. It's just a sign of ignorance to the game and how it works, and on what principles it was made.
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Gaeth hEirennan
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Posted - 2005.10.26 19:54:00 -
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Good Luck to Eve University!!!
For the New Players in Eve University...You are about to set sail on a voyage that is very exciting and full of adventure. It is a dangerous adventure, kind of like sliding your Johnson through a fun hole at a carnival. It could be a beautiful woman on the other side or it could be a hungry goat!
It is my sincerest wish for each and every member of Eve University that 2nd Panza Army turns out to be a beautiful woman.
Love,
Gaeth
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Grimster
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Posted - 2005.10.26 20:06:00 -
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TBH (and I never thought I'd say this) I totally agree with The Hooch.
IMHO EvE-U do a service to the game, helping to teach and retain the next generations of the playerbase and should be left to get on with it.
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Shyalud
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Posted - 2005.10.26 20:55:00 -
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This is a tactic that Huff has been using for many months. They create a seperate corp to war dec what they feel are defenseless corporations for the purpose of extorting a surrender "fee". One of my old members is part of Huff and brought their attention to us, thinking we were still short on PVPers. Once they figured out we were primarily deep in 0.0, and that we had no intention of paying them off, they dropped the dec, and all the members returned to Huff.
It may be perfectly acceptable in terms of game rules/mechanics....but it's still pathetic.
Good luck Eve U.
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