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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Shyalud This is a tactic that Huff has been using for many months. They create a seperate corp to war dec what they feel are defenseless corporations for the purpose of extorting a surrender "fee". One of my old members is part of Huff and brought their attention to us, thinking we were still short on PVPers. Once they figured out we were primarily deep in 0.0, and that we had no intention of paying them off, they dropped the dec, and all the members returned to Huff.
It may be perfectly acceptable in terms of game rules/mechanics....but it's still pathetic.
Good luck Eve U.
TY for the info we have no intention of paying Hettar off
as for the tactic, it`s lame, they had a war for 3 weeks and lost quite abit of face in the eyes of the public, tho,all ended well without problems till now.
Keeping Huff out of this is impossible as these are huff members - no one can deny this so Huff`s name is dragged into this war aswell, we know they have a few respected members so we`ll leave it to their managment to solve Hettars bullying without naming other unconfirmed names.
Best wishes to those Huff members who know who they are, but this is against all those who are using 2nd panza army as an excuse ________________
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 21:56:00 -
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Quote: 2005.10.26 21:40:00 Mentally Unstable Enterprises has declared war on Eve University. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
enough said, Hettar, couldn`t u have just asked them to join ur alt corp to save them the war costs? ________________
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2005.10.26 22:06:00 -
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The new corp seems to be an AUS Corperation alt/ex-member corp rather then being a Huff affiliate.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jiggy The new corp seems to be an AUS Corperation alt/ex-member corp rather then being a Huff affiliate.
thanks, but what do they have to gain besides a name (wich they allready have)?
non i can think of atm... besides 1 name
pick the n00bs month anyone?
banner is what i do during wars (thanks to MM for the tip ) ________________
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Silentbrick
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Posted - 2005.10.26 22:54:00 -
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I believe this sort of thing is wrong. Eve University does an excellent job of helping people learn the game and this sort of crap is what gives EVE a bad name and like all malignant rabid animals, they need be put down.
I've resigned as CEO of Vassa Military Industries and applied to join EVE University as a Combat Pilot. I urge anyone that feels the same, that EVE University's fine work deserves the protection of the human beings in the EVE universe, to do the same and join EVE University in it's time of need.
"All suspects are guilty! If they weren't, they wouldn't be suspects would they?" - Unknown Imperial Stormtrooper |
ElweSingollo
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Posted - 2005.10.26 22:55:00 -
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for goodness sake can you guys not just leave Eve-U alone whatever the reason nothing can be gained from war dec'ing them except for making those that declared look like cowards who are afraid to fight someone who is skilled enough to fight back with ships more powerfull than a frigate or cruiser.
Heres an idea Eve-U you must have had a few peeps "graduate" from your corp how about you request them to give up a wekk of there time and rejoin Eve-U and give these two corps that decced you the fight of there lives. Failing that a viable option which has already been mentioned if you can get the isk is to form an alliance I doubt very much either of the 2 corps would have decced you had it cost them 200mil per week to do so.
BTW I have a couple of spare Frigates and stuff I would like to donate you got anywhere in Minmitar space with a Corp Hanger or can I put up and Escrow for you guys?
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Silentbrick I believe this sort of thing is wrong. Eve University does an excellent job of helping people learn the game and this sort of crap is what gives EVE a bad name and like all malignant rabid animals, they need be put down.
I've resigned as CEO of Vassa Military Industries and applied to join EVE University as a Combat Pilot. I urge anyone that feels the same, that EVE University's fine work deserves the protection of the human beings in the EVE universe, to do the same and join EVE University in it's time of need.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: ElweSingollo Heres an idea Eve-U you must have had a few peeps "graduate" from your corp how about you request them to give up a week of their time and rejoin Eve-U and give these two corps that decced you the fight of there lives.
Eve-U is mainly a corp to help ppl get to learn the game, there is a frig tournament tho but that`s mainly the pvp learned (till last war with huff) if there are old members out there who got the hang of pvp, they would be accepted warmly(sp) but it`s an open door policy (even now ith the 3rd war) so ppl come and go
Originally by: ElweSingollo Failing that a viable option which has already been mentioned if you can get the isk is to form an alliance I doubt very much either of the 2 corps would have decced you had it cost them 200mil per week to do so.
maybe now that could work but we didn`t had a slight idea that it would turn out like this, also funding an alliance is to much of an isk sink as the corp is there for the members but members try to progress so raising this much would have to depend mainly on donations.
Originally by: ElweSingollo BTW I have a couple of spare Frigates and stuff I would like to donate you got anywhere in Minmitar space with a Corp Hanger or can I put up and Escrow for you guys?
ships&modules are allways welcome as they go faster then i could eat cheese burgers minmatar space is quite out of the way with a war going and a pending war, i would glady accept it if i had a hauler alt, i`d like to thank you with for the offer and forward it along to see if anyone has hauler alt lying around ________________
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Shyalud
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:18:00 -
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Here's another suggestion, along the alliance line. Try joining ISS, they are a completely neutral alliance that most other alliances recognize as such. I have no personal connection with ISS, so don't know how they would respond, but considering their nuetrality, and your work training pilots/players, seems like a match made in heaven to me.
Again, good luck. Were it not for our own wars, Celestine Prophecy would come to your aid.
Regards, Shyalud
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ElweSingollo
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kerushi
ships&modules are allways welcome as they go faster then i could eat cheese burgers minmatar space is quite out of the way with a war going and a pending war, i would glady accept it if i had a hauler alt, i`d like to thank you with for the offer and forward it along to see if anyone has hauler alt lying around
Well my main base is in Scolluzer only a couple of jumps from Duripont or whatever the Fed Navy starter system is called again I will see what I can do about hauling them back up there...
In regards to the Alliance cost your main cost would be in setting it up which costs 1 billion isk which is a lot of iskies but if you were able to set up a special "Alliance donation" fund I would imagine you could get it after that the only cost I believe is the monthly alliance bill which is 2 mil isk per member corp per month.... I think .
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FOEHAMMER006
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:31:00 -
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We got your back E-U
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Shyalud Here's another suggestion, along the alliance line. Try joining ISS, they are a completely neutral alliance that most other alliances recognize as such. I have no personal connection with ISS, so don't know how they would respond, but considering their nuetrality, and your work training pilots/players, seems like a match made in heaven to me.
Again, good luck. Were it not for our own wars, Celestine Prophecy would come to your aid.
Regards, Shyalud
great suggestion, thanks! i`ll run it by MM tomorrow when he gets back online and see what he thinks (i`m just the new corp forum w***e )
Originally by: ElweSingollo Well my main base is in Scolluzer only a couple of jumps from Duripont or whatever the Fed Navy starter system is called again I will see what I can do about hauling them back up there...
would be greatly appriciated
Originally by: ElweSingollo In regards to the Alliance cost your main cost would be in setting it up which costs 1 billion isk which is a lot of iskies but if you were able to set up a special "Alliance donation" fund I would imagine you could get it after that the only cost I believe is the monthly alliance bill which is 2 mil isk per member corp per month.... I think .
Along with Shyalud`s post, their both an option to counter these things for the future, we didn`t expected anything like this to happen, if such a thing would come in exsistence it will get a donators page with font 30 capital letters for every one who would have helped out in any way (pehaps it`s time for such a page now )
All suggestions are greatly appriciated, gives some ideas to counter this for the future ________________
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: FOEHAMMER006 We got your back E-U
all i can say is thank every one for any sort of help, what more can 1 say? (ok...a page would be nice(i`ll do some work on it tomorrow))
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Draco Alurius
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:52:00 -
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Before you start calling everybody in Panza a noob, not everybody here is involved with huff or anything like that. I just started playing and found a new corp to join and it just happened to be Panza when they were thinking about going to war. So don't go assuming we're all just looking for some fame. Some of us are just starting to learn on this side too.
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Shyalud
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Draco Alurius Before you start calling everybody in Panza a noob, not everybody here is involved with huff or anything like that. I just started playing and found a new corp to join and it just happened to be Panza when they were thinking about going to war. So don't go assuming we're all just looking for some fame. Some of us are just starting to learn on this side too.
I believe it was your own CEO that called you noobs....
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Shyalud
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Adara Algar The new war between the 2nd Panza Army and Eve uni is not affiliated with huff tech in any way, although as it is now well known i am the alt of Hettar "captain" in the ranks of huff technologys. The 2nd Panza Army was born to gain fresh talent to fill the ranks and the best way to learn pvp in my experience is to be at war, the fact that the 2nd Panza Army war dec'd eve uni is not a malicious act but rather as a passing memory of where i can find a corp willing to give a fight but not so difficult that it interupts training purposes, i say this as a point of fact HUFF TECHNOLOGYS IS NOT SUPPLYING AMMO, SHIPS OR CAPITAL IN AND SHAPE OR FORM TO THE 2ND PANZA ARMY!the calibur of the pilots within the 2nd Panza Army is not great, but with training they might become some thing to be reckon'd with, as for any pilot in this game they must start some where. And if Eve university is so upset over these wars that beckon there doors then i suggest that they find a new game that does not involve pvp.
Also so to Eve uni's defence i say this i have seen the calibur of your pilots and you held your own quite well, and the fact that you can whine so much to this new war decaration even when it from relitive noobs to the combat side of this game and the fact that your pilots now have more experience in fighting than the 2nd Panza Army you shouldnt find this war so intolerable.
i am also an honourable person, if eve uni feels that they are not in a position to fight this war then i am open to negotiations of there formal surrender to the 2nd Panza Army
See?
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Shyalud
Originally by: Draco Alurius Before you start calling everybody in Panza a noob, not everybody here is involved with huff or anything like that. I just started playing and found a new corp to join and it just happened to be Panza when they were thinking about going to war. So don't go assuming we're all just looking for some fame. Some of us are just starting to learn on this side too.
I believe it was your own CEO that called you noobs....
no comment for a change ________________
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Draco Alurius
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Posted - 2005.10.27 01:28:00 -
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I'm not saying im not a noob, I kno what Adara said and I'm seeing what some of EU and others are saying and I'm just trying to say that not everybody here is from huff or is a player trying to act all tough fighting a corp with other new players. I don't really know much about Huff or EU and I just wanted to make it a point that i'm just a noob who happened to join when this war was starting. I wouldn't mind meeting EU, hostile or not.
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BillyBong2
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Posted - 2005.10.27 02:10:00 -
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I am bringing my BP0s down for the basic modules and few frigates/cruisers for you guys. I'll have them up an running in no time. IN the process of moving back down to you :)
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Tars Tarkas
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Posted - 2005.10.27 03:21:00 -
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After two days combat training, joined Eve-U to shoot at Huff, found their actions reprehensible enough to make it a worthy cause. Was boring, mostly, they were adept at flying a station, not so at flying a ship.
Still, was glad it was over and done, it interfered with Eve-U's mission of helping those new to Eve.
Now this new nonsense. Eh, more targets, maybe we'll find them in space, and not in stations. Doubt it.
Should counter-dec Huff, so they can't hide their support and spies there. Maybe find yet another barge afk at a gate. That was a funny kill.
BTW, if you make an alt to join the fight, start him with Frigate IV, and give him high int/mem, not perception/willpower, most of the two days were spent training skills that needed int/mem.
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iimethodii
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Posted - 2005.10.27 03:30:00 -
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i have only been in eve-u for a couple of weeks, (just after the huff war began) and now with this new war and the addition of MENTL, i had my doubts saying in eve-u. but with this overwhealming support i know that we are gonna succeed here. thanx to all who are willing to help over the next period that we r about to go through :)
PS: looking forward to fighting ya MENTL, finally some action in my timezone (i'm australian)
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Nekhad Jormuzzar
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Posted - 2005.10.27 06:09:00 -
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I'm also part of those who joined in the war against Huff.
It's been greatly dissapointing. My own RL may have been part of the problem, for whenever I logged in, just one or two huff would be on. In the case of 2nd Panza, things are even worse. From time to time Hettar/Adara will log in at out Nourv HQ station, then log out. Huff/2nd Panza were nowhere to be seen and gangs faced the obstacle of spies revealing our plans, so operations even when Huff was there were greatly hampered.
In short, it's been truly boring and I've only seen one of these guys for 3 seconds during the whole affaire, both of us in indies. I'm ashamed to say the only way I could help was answering questions in our channels.
Thus I've decided to move on. I'll prolly create an alt as per the prior poster's suggestion, join EU and move him to Nourv, but my main will leave the corp. Sorry guys.
As for the alliance bit, should EU decide it's the way to go to discourage griefing, I'm ready to contribute to a fund with 100m ISKs.
Good luck guys.
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Irrilian
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Posted - 2005.10.27 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Draco Alurius Before you start calling everybody in Panza a noob, not everybody here is involved with huff or anything like that. I just started playing and found a new corp to join and it just happened to be Panza when they were thinking about going to war. So don't go assuming we're all just looking for some fame. Some of us are just starting to learn on this side too.
Welcome to Eve, though frustrating at times, it is fun.
May I apologise for the circumstance you find yourself in, youÆve been caught up in a vendetta of your CEOÆs (Adara Algar) main character (Hettar). As you may be aware Hettar is a member of a corporation called Huff Technologies that was engaged in a three week spell of unprovoked aggression against Eve University, until in our view we (and others) fought them off causing considerable economic loss in comparison to what they inflicted upon us, and in theirs they just got bored. Unfortunately your CEOÆs player refuses to draw a line under the HuffT-EU incident, letting both corporations move on, but seeks to use 2nd panza army as a vehicle to continue the war by proxy.
Though we know where you are, there is no need to fear that we will resort to a tactic Huff employed against us, seeking out new player members for easy ôganksö, however if you actively engage in hostilities no quarter will be given.
If I may offer some advice as one player to another: please make sure that you have an up to date clone, one that will retain more than your current total skill points; that you ship is fully insured; and that you outfit your ship only with cheap no named modules, or at least ones that wont be a burden to replace.
I hope you enjoy Eve and that we meet under better circumstances in the future.
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thoradh
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Posted - 2005.10.27 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Irrilian
Originally by: Draco Alurius Before you start calling everybody in Panza a noob, not everybody here is involved with huff or anything like that. I just started playing and found a new corp to join and it just happened to be Panza when they were thinking about going to war. So don't go assuming we're all just looking for some fame. Some of us are just starting to learn on this side too.
Welcome to Eve, though frustrating at times, it is fun.
May I apologise for the circumstance you find yourself in, youÆve been caught up in a vendetta of your CEOÆs (Adara Algar) main character (Hettar). As you may be aware Hettar is a member of a corporation called Huff Technologies that was engaged in a three week spell of unprovoked aggression against Eve University, until in our view we (and others) fought them off causing considerable economic loss in comparison to what they inflicted upon us, and in theirs they just got bored. Unfortunately your CEOÆs player refuses to draw a line under the HuffT-EU incident, letting both corporations move on, but seeks to use 2nd panza army as a vehicle to continue the war by proxy.
Though we know where you are, there is no need to fear that we will resort to a tactic Huff employed against us, seeking out new player members for easy ôganksö, however if you actively engage in hostilities no quarter will be given.
If I may offer some advice as one player to another: please make sure that you have an up to date clone, one that will retain more than your current total skill points; that you ship is fully insured; and that you outfit your ship only with cheap no named modules, or at least ones that wont be a burden to replace.
I hope you enjoy Eve and that we meet under better circumstances in the future.
Well said sir, honour is alive and well in EVE
Waiting for new hardware to arrive, soon as its here EVE-U will receive a modest isk contribution which I hope will assist you in furthering your essential and much appreciated work. You have proven in the past weeks how well EVE-U can inflict crushing 'boredom' on those who expected a less well organized and capable response
The sig is all your's too Bravo
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Morning Maniac
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Posted - 2005.10.27 12:30:00 -
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The problem with Irrilian being so well spoken is that it really doesn't leave anything to say for the rest of us
I would just like to confirm that if the truely new pilots of Panza stay clear of us we do not intent to chase after them. Apart from Adara/Hettar, calling him primairy is just tradition now Just kidding though, I really wouldn't travel across space to watch you sit in a station. It's just that you choose to sit in our hq.
I would like to hear from the Mentally Unstable corp though to hear what their war dec. is all about. From what we've heard they are by no means newbies looking for an educational experience.
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Benilopax
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Posted - 2005.10.27 13:43:00 -
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ALMPC will be discussing action tonight. I hope we can help out in this.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.27 13:45:00 -
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Our gratitude to all who are helping Time to stock more quafe ________________
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Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2005.10.27 16:56:00 -
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Lol where huff getting owned? sux that. But who the hell are these new guys, never heard of em in meh life. ----------------------- Join the oveur fan club today and recive an e-flower!
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2005.10.28 13:43:00 -
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Lo Dezzy
Yes, Huff cancelled the war as they were 'bored'. 2nd Panza is run by the alt of a Huff member known by the name of Hettar.
We don't think Hettar likes eve uni because Hettar lost a lot of ships...
As for the other corp that war decced us. NFI.
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2005.10.28 15:10:00 -
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Yes well they're currently losing more
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