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Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
135
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Posted - 2013.05.29 08:10:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:live-fire training operations And now the Star Fraction/Kimotoro Directive parallel is utterly perfect.
This is all in your head. By means I won't disclose here, you have become the second test subject of my personal pharmacists and all these events are merely "like, deja-vu, man. Totally." You may find yourself reliving some of your favorite moments from time to time. Give us a shout, love, should you want the antidote. Captain Lieutenant Midshipman Ms Lady Dame Dudette Otsito the Third. Lord High Thingamadoodle and Satrapess of the Paper Birds. The One who used to be The Keeper of the Toothbrush Threat Level: lol |

Sofia Roseburn
Coreli Corporation
16
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Posted - 2013.05.29 14:59:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:live-fire training operations And now the Star Fraction/Kimotoro Directive parallel is utterly perfect.
Not really. Both were competent entities, that's not the same this time around. If only we had more people like Launette Vylier. |

Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
1005
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Posted - 2013.05.29 18:15:00 -
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Sofia Roseburn wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:live-fire training operations And now the Star Fraction/Kimotoro Directive parallel is utterly perfect. Not really. Both were competent entities, that's not the same this time around.
I assume "competent" in the Coreli Corporation manual is dependant on how many warp core stabilisers you have fitted to your ship. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |

Katarina Musana
Gradient Electus Matari
67
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:30:00 -
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Halete wrote:Katarina Musana wrote: And I've already taken down one of your pilots. The rest of you only seem interested in hiding away in stations, though, whenever I go hunting.
I would ask that after the events of tonight that you refrain from such droll posting.
You have aquitted yourself far more admirably than your compatriots, hon.
Vikarion wrote:If they are so worthless, then why are you so upset?
I have a great deal of respect for the Caldari. I spent much of my early career as a capsuleer living in the State and working with the Caldari, and have known the Caldari to be honorable people, especially the Patriot bloc.
Pyre, however, who supposedly are "Patriots," seem to have no real interest in the well-being of their State. They're acting more like Practicals than Patriots. |

Aelisha
Achura-Waschi Exchange
199
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:32:00 -
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Nothing wrong with Practicals. CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange: An International trade corporation that adheres to State values
Intaki born State Citizen and supporter of the Practicals Bloc. |

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
247
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:32:00 -
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I was right about the comedy.
When the Angel Cartel turned up in Skarkon, it summoned Sadie Riordan from their hidey-hole, to utter such phrases as:
Saede Riordan > The choice is not between the Republic and the Angels, the choice is between willful self determination and allowing control to be dictated by an external force. Saede Riordan > How about you don't tell us what is best for us, and let us decide for ourselves?
Which contrast amusingly with the whole thing about implanting people, to force them to be happy.
Heh. |

Katarina Musana
Gradient Electus Matari
67
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:40:00 -
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Aelisha wrote:Nothing wrong with Practicals.
This is something we will have to disagree on, in general, though I have known a few Practicals whom I respected. But my problem is less them being Practicals, and more how they dishonor and disgrace real Patriots. |

Sofia Roseburn
Coreli Corporation
16
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:41:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Sofia Roseburn wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:live-fire training operations And now the Star Fraction/Kimotoro Directive parallel is utterly perfect. Not really. Both were competent entities, that's not the same this time around. I assume "competent" in the Coreli Corporation manual is dependant on how many warp core stabilisers you have fitted to your ship.
Implying that, as a contractor, I am obligated to follow corporate manuals. If only we had more people like Launette Vylier. |

Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
196
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:49:00 -
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We have kept silent in here thus far in order to allow free discussion on the topic and observe public opinion. As of this post the pilots of DUTY have skirmished with honor and dignity, and while we do wish to dissuade their involvement in the Minmatar theatre it is fortunate that their pilots are learning new tactics that will prepare them for the eventual dialogues to come.
Valerie Valete wrote: [...] Which contrast amusingly with the whole thing about implanting people, to force them to be happy.
Heh.
Valerie Valete wrote: Saede Riordan > It is all entirely optional, no one is forced to do anything, they are simply required to take certain steps if they wish to exist within the society. Should they not wish to abide the requirements, they are welcome to leave.
You should more carefully read that which you quote, Pilot Valete. I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way. |

Esna Pitoojee
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
283
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:11:00 -
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You should read as well. She did not say your were forcibly implanting people (though given your statements of support for Sansha's Nation, I'd not be surprised if you were). She merely said that the chips you were using forced those implanted with them to be happy, which is fully in-line with your CEO's statements as posted earlier. |

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
247
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:15:00 -
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Esna Pitoojee wrote:You should read as well. She did not say your were forcibly implanting people (though given your statements of support for Sansha's Nation, I'd not be surprised if you were). She merely said that the chips you were using forced those implanted with them to be happy, which is fully in-line with your CEO's statements as posted earlier.
She edited her post, in order to purposefully misspell my name.
I wonder if she also cries when called on spelling, like Riordan does.
Seems like reading and comprehension isn't Alxvp's strong point.
Their strong point isn't following their own corporation rules either. Seems like members could be expelled for "revealing the location of the wormhole in channels where non-blues are present". And yet the directors do that all the time, heh. |

Halete
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
845
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:26:00 -
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What seems to have piqued your curiosity of Saede, Valerie? "To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21 |

Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
196
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:34:00 -
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Esna Pitoojee wrote:You should read as well. She did not say your were forcibly implanting people (though given your statements of support for Sansha's Nation, I'd not be surprised if you were). She merely said that the chips you were using forced those implanted with them to be happy, which is fully in-line with your CEO's statements as posted earlier.
Chips we "were using"? Valate's snippet of Saede's conversation is out of context; Saede was discussing the theoretical applications of implants in the area of social engineering. It was an abstract conversation about a topic, rather than a description of anything going on in reality.
Valerie Valate wrote: She edited her post, in order to purposefully misspell my name.
I wonder if she also cries when called on spelling, like Riordan does.
I do not cry over such matters. Forgive me for misspelling your name. A name is an important thing, and it is not right to misrepresent something so important.
Valerie Valate wrote: Their strong point isn't following their own corporation rules either. Seems like members could be expelled for "revealing the location of the wormhole in channels where non-blues are present". And yet the directors do that all the time, heh.
Have we, now? If this is the case I ask you to please point out when and where this happened, so that we may correct our behavior in the future. Of course, it is not a difficult thing to track down a static exit, but this becomes much less of an issue when a group knows how to "roll" their static. I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way. |

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
257
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:35:00 -
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Halete wrote:What seems to have piqued your curiosity of Saede, Valerie?
Valerie Valate wrote:This looks like better entertainment than Gutter Press. I await further episodes of hilarity.
I assume some form of taxation pays for the IGS, so while it is not free, the IGS as a source of entertainment is hard to beat. |

Halete
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
845
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:39:00 -
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Streya Jormagdnir wrote: Chips we "were using"? Valate's snippet of Saede's conversation is out of context; Saede was discussing the theoretical applications of implants in the area of social engineering. It was an abstract conversation about a topic, rather than a description of anything going on in reality.
That argument works a lot better when you're not declaring war on a Corporation who have a member in their midst who used to belong in your own, who can confirm that exactly the types of control methods being described are being employed by Saede.
"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21 |

Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
196
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:45:00 -
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Halete wrote:Streya Jormagdnir wrote: Chips we "were using"? Valate's snippet of Saede's conversation is out of context; Saede was discussing the theoretical applications of implants in the area of social engineering. It was an abstract conversation about a topic, rather than a description of anything going on in reality.
That argument works a lot better when you're not declaring war on a Corporation who have a member in their midst who used to belong in your own, who can confirm that exactly the types of control methods being described are being employed by Saede.
Just as we "cower in our wormhole" and "seek to forge a new race", as you said. It's not as though you haven't said things in the past which aren't true about the corporation in order to damage us as much as possible. You've gone from eccentric Tribalist to Caldari Patriot and now to Amarrian Faithful in less time than it takes to build some starships. I am sorry you feel the need to say such things just to get back at us for failing to provide the meaning in your life you seem to have found recently. I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way. |

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
257
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:47:00 -
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Streya Jormagdnir wrote: Have we, now? If this is the case I ask you to please point out when and where this happened, so that we may correct our behavior in the future. Of course, it is not a difficult thing to track down a static exit, but this becomes much less of an issue when a group knows how to "roll" their static.
The Summit.
Kanaya Laskey > Could I get a direct link to where this system is? Just to see travel time. Saede Riordan laughs. "Sure." Saede Riordan > J174317
So, now everyone knows that your wormhole is J174317.
I bolded the important part of your policies:
Quote:Alexylva Paradox Policy Agreement V2.1
By taking an oath of membership within the Alexylva Paradox, the following capsuleer ______________ Agrees to the standard membership policy of the Alexylva Paradox Corporation. Failure to abide these policies will result in removal from the corporation. This document is legally binding within the internal laws and policies of the corporation.
1.0 All standings are to be honoured. This applies to all pilots, organisations, and factions to which standings have been applied.
1.1 First instance of blue on blue violence instigated by a corporation member will result in a verbal warning in chat or on voice.
1.2 Second instance of blue on blue violence instigated by a corporation member will result in an offical written warning by a director.
1.3 Third instance of blue on blue violence instigated by a corporation member will result in the offending member being expelled from the corporation.
2.0 All orders issued by the Directorate are to be followed.
2.1 Repeated instances of refusing to follow orders and disobeying the directorate will result in expellation of the offending member.
2.2 Failure to follow orders given by an FC in fleet will result in imediate removal from the fleet.
2.2.1 If a second instance of chain of command failure occurs the individual will be removed from fleet and written a verbal warning by the FC
2.2.2 After a third instance of failing to follow orders, the individual may be barred from participating in the fleets of that FC.
3.0 Respect is to be given to all members of the corporation and to the corporate body.
3.1 Theft of items or ISK from the corporation will result in immediate explusion.
3.2 Destroying or taking actions which lead to the destruction of another corporation memberGÇÖs ships or assets will result in immediate expulsion. Exclusions to this are GÇÿFog of WarGÇÖ situations such as bomb deployment and smartbomb use in fleet combat
3.3 Badmouthing, namecalling, harassment, bigotry, and discimination within the corporation will be issued one written warning, if the behaviour continues the member will be expelled.
3.4 Scamming other members of the corporation will result in immediate explusion
3.5 Taking actions that harm the corporation will result in immediate explusion.
4.0 The Corporation will maintain an image of professionalism and integrity
4.1 Badmouthing, namecalling, harassment, bigotry or discrimination in any public channel will result in one written warning, if the behaviour continues the member will be expelled.
4.2 Scamming of groups with blue or white standing will result in imediate removal of the offending individual.
4.3 Regardless of the outcome of a battle a modicum of respect is to be afforded enemies in public.
4.3.1 Violation of this will result in a verbal warning.
4.3.2 If the behavior continues the directorate may issue an offical warning that the member is in breach of conduct.
4.3.3 If the behavior continues still, the offending individual may be expelled from the corporation.
5.0 Sensitive information is to be kept internal
5.1 Revealing sensitive information to blues is legal as long as the medium of information exchange is secure.
5.2 The intentional and willful revealing of sensitive information such as the location of the wormhole or starbase to nonblues will result in imediate explusion.
5.2.1 Unintentional release of information will result in a verbal warning and an explaination of which information was revealed that should not have been to the pilot.
5.2.1.1 Unintentional is defined here as; ignorant of the fact that sharing said information violates corporate policy. Repeated instances of ignorance to information sensitivty matters will result in entry into a mandatory re-education program.
5.3 The following is defined as sensitive information
5.3.1 The locations of corporate and blue assets in space, including but not limited to, ships, starbases, or fleets
5.3.2 The locations of corporate and blue strategic locations including but not limited to, wormhole, bookmarks, safespots, and overwatches
5.3.3 Corporate or blue passwords, access codes, permissions, and clearances
5.3.4 Access to intel channels, or information contained therein
6.0 The Directorate may modify this document at any time
6.1 The Directorate is required to post notice of any changes to this document.
I, ______________, avow and afirm that I will abide and agree with the corporate policy terms disclosed above on penalty of explusion. I pledge to protect and uphold the safety, security, and sovereignty of the Alexlyva Paradox, to stand with the members of the Alexylva Paradox against any threats faced, and work to uphold the ethical and moral values of the corporation, with every fibre of my being.
X__________________________________ Date ____________________ |

Desiderya
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
337
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:48:00 -
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Just bring it already. Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. |

Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
196
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:51:00 -
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Valerie Valate wrote:
The Summit.
Kanaya Laskey > Could I get a direct link to where this system is? Just to see travel time. Saede Riordan laughs. "Sure." Saede Riordan > J174317
So, now everyone knows that your wormhole is J174317.
I'm afraid you conflated two items of w-space jargon.
J174317 is a system, not a wormhole. Anyone with proper lookup tools could have found the locus signature of our system by now. The policy refers to exit wormholes. I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way. |

Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
194
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:15:00 -
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Valerie Valate wrote:I was right about the comedy.
When the Angel Cartel turned up in Skarkon, it summoned Sadie Riordan from their hidey-hole, to utter such phrases as:
I've got loads more if you're interested. I was there.
Streya Jormagdnir wrote:You've gone from eccentric Tribalist to Caldari Patriot and now to Amarrian Faithful in less time than it takes to build some starships.
Seems one of the kettles pulled itself out of the pot pile then.
In any case, I find it a bit ironic that this post, started in an effort to bring attention to the Alexylva Paradox has kind of backfired and is bringing too much attention to it. Well, I guess it's not ironic. But definitely amusing. In any case, however...
Desiderya wrote:Just bring it already.
What she said. - Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim ___________________________ Angels are never far... Stillwater Corporation recruitment open. |

Lyn Farel
Kitzless
546
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:05:00 -
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Streya Jormagdnir wrote:Valerie Valate wrote:
The Summit.
Kanaya Laskey > Could I get a direct link to where this system is? Just to see travel time. Saede Riordan laughs. "Sure." Saede Riordan > J174317
So, now everyone knows that your wormhole is J174317.
I'm afraid you conflated two items of w-space jargon. J174317 is a system, not a wormhole. Anyone with proper lookup tools could have found the locus signature of our system by now. The policy refers to exit wormholes.
If I understand correctly then, your starbase is not located in the J174317 system ? |

Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1655
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:24:00 -
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If only terrible posting was counted in combat statistics, this "war" might actually mean something. Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Sub-Director of Public Relations |

Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
164
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:28:00 -
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You people are having a very hard time grasping this concept.
Let me put it to you this way. You know the name of Saede's house, but that does not give you directions to it. One day it could be in Fraire. The next day it could be in Rancer. What they are guarding is the path to their home. Knowing the name of their home tells you very little of strategic value. |

Sofia Roseburn
Coreli Corporation
16
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Posted - 2013.05.29 23:21:00 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:You people are having a very hard time grasping this concept.
Let me put it to you this way. You know the name of Saede's house, but that does not give you directions to it. One day it could be in Fraire. The next day it could be in Rancer. What they are guarding is the path to their home. Knowing the name of their home tells you very little of strategic value.
Not strictly true. There is an element of a pattern to where wormholes leave, and with enough time you can get yourself exactly where you want to go.
All you need is a name. If only we had more people like Launette Vylier. |

Halete
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
848
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Posted - 2013.05.30 06:32:00 -
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Streya Jormagdnir wrote: You've gone from eccentric Tribalist to Caldari Patriot and now to Amarrian Faithful in less time than it takes to build some starships.
This is incredibly lazy smear coming from somebody who knows better.
Let's review the facts;
I was a Tribalist for 23 years.
For 22 of those years I held an association with the Republic.
I have never been a Caldari Patriot nor entertained such claims.
So what exactly is it that you're trying, here? "To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21 |

Noboru Tahvo Toivonen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
18
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:29:00 -
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To be honest I don't even know why there is any debate about the location, path or lack thereof to or from said location or any other combination of wormhole related facts.
This war seems to be intended for the FacWar zones PYRE is engaged in, and as such even if full directions were given to said wormhole, I doubt light fleet doctrine would serve us very well against a starbase in a temporarily connected unknown system.
Simply put, intelligence without will to apply it is worthless, and so at least for myself, such musings have no inherent value within the scope of this minor conflict. |

Anja Suorsa
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
91
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:46:00 -
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Noboru Tahvo Toivonen wrote:To be honest I don't even know why there is any debate about the location, path or lack thereof to or from said location or any other combination of wormhole related facts.
This war seems to be intended for the FacWar zones PYRE is engaged in, and as such even if full directions were given to said wormhole, I doubt light fleet doctrine would serve us very well against a starbase in a temporarily connected unknown system.
Simply put, intelligence without will to apply it is worthless, and so at least for myself, such musings have no inherent value within the scope of this minor conflict.
Quite. As Pyre Falcon are the recipient of the war declaration, I was under the impression it was for Alexylva Paradox to attempt to undermine and disrupt our operations. Not the other way around. While we can certainly reply in kind, the onus is not upon us to do so as we did not pay a fee for the pleasure, therefore have nothing to lose. |

Noboru Tahvo Toivonen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
19
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:56:00 -
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Also it's pretty hard to kill a POS with Condors, sir. |

Halete
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
849
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Posted - 2013.05.30 11:29:00 -
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With that defeatist attitude it is, Noboru. "To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21 |

Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
194
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Posted - 2013.05.30 11:51:00 -
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Anja Suorsa wrote: While we can certainly reply in kind, the onus is not upon us to do so as we did not pay a fee for the pleasure...
Read as: we have better things to do.
- Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim ___________________________ Angels are never far... Stillwater Corporation recruitment open. |
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