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Thorindor
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Posted - 2005.10.26 04:09:00 -
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Been playing about a month, joined a corp and never have any money. Getting blasted none stop, which isn't helping my money problem. Got 2 chars, one can fly mining barges, the other battlecruisers. Tried mining a bit in empire but kept getting blasted. Gave up and switched to doing missions in my ferox. Got tired of the small amount of money i was making doing missions and decided rat hunting would be nice. Of course tried to do 0.0 after a while and died. What should be my plan with my insurence. Got 19mil and don't know what to do. Mining or combat? Need help bad. Keep hearing players taking about having billions, not expecting that much but having no money but being broke all the time is getting annoying. Got high of enough skills for mid lvl mining barge and can fly all but the amarr ships equally well up to battlecruisers.
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Carniflex
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Posted - 2005.10.26 04:21:00 -
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Sounds like you need a secure way to get some isk. For that I would reccomend high sec mining in your medium barge. Of cource if your corp is at war, then this is not good idea. Try some not core sec 0.9 systems. Chek mineral prices before you start mining, and you should be able to do approx 2 mil's per hour - or more. Depending on your skills and local mineral prices. (Assuming, that you jetcan mine and haul every now and then)
Of cource lowsec mining is a lot more profitable, but there are a lot more risks too.
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Ishtari
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Posted - 2005.10.26 04:23:00 -
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go to a low population .9 system mine whatever youi find a week voila you got money enough. Reading your story it seems that you rushed into big ships without training supporting skills like engineering/electronics tree, train those and be a bit more carefull.
Missions they start with low payout as everything but as your standing rises you get access to better agents use those and cash will increase.
Combining missions with mining has the additional advantage that station ownrers will ask less fee to refine/recycle. meaning again more cash.
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Wee Dave
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Posted - 2005.10.26 04:23:00 -
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Going on oursulert prices, using a barge you can mine 7 million isk's worth of omber an hour. Just keep a balance ... do crazy, money-draining stuff half the time and safely mine the other half.
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Lygos
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Posted - 2005.10.26 08:54:00 -
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Have to agree with Ishtari somewhat.
1)Useful and available comrades are the best "win" button there is. Just 3 well-organized people can pwn at pvp and npcs. Only a minority seem to comprehend that they need a squad more than they need corp.
2)Learn to take frigates and cruisers as far as they can go. Granted, some will say that it actually takes more skill to use a smaller craft well.
3)For NPCing, research your enemy. For defense, either use the right hardners or take the other path of protecting yourself with the appropriate mix of speed and range.
4)For PvPing, learn and fit to do a certain, LIMITED number of things well and minimize your exposure to other situations. Axiom: The more focused you are, the fewer the number of situations that are ideal. The less focused you are, the less competently you will perform in any situation.
5)Ultimately, many people cannot grind themselves into wealth. They either lack the fortitude or alternately don't comprehend how to operate in a semi-comatose state. For this crowd (myself included) you just have to count on lucking your way into good fortune. There are handy drop lists around. It's almost innevitable that you will be surprised by a handy mod you'd never dream of using knowing that it would instead net you 100M isk if you put it on escrow. Achieving this is just a matter of seeking to be entertained until it just happens. In this, I would strongly recommend referring back to step 1.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.10.26 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 26/10/2005 09:19:51
Try alternating between mining and missions. You will never make much ISKs until you have reached lvl 3 agents. For most people, 6 months of Eve is hell.
HTH. 
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Pagefault
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Posted - 2005.10.26 14:30:00 -
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 Originally by: Thorindor
Been playing about a month, joined a corp and never have any money.
Maybe you should consider changing that corp. If a corp is not able to keep a 1 month noob out of the line, and teach him how to get his first 100 mil fast, they are not worth 1 minute of your time.
There are peeps like eve university arround (do they still exist?) that specialize helping noobs. Just look arround a bit (recruiter forum, recruitment channel, google...), talk to the guys, and NEVER EVER join a corp, that offer you a membership before they sincerly inviewed you. A public channel in eve and on teamspeak and a required time of beeing there and chatting with lots of the members are generally a good sign. A corp that offers you membership after 2 lines of chatting... well you can imagine what they generally are like: A bunch of freelancers with little or no support to their members.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.10.26 15:20:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 26/10/2005 15:22:04
Hi again.
If you are thinking of changing corp., I would like to take the opportunity to ask you to read up my recruitment thread and ask any question that may arise in your chaotic mind. We are looking for long term gamers and hopefully you will join us for the next 6 months before you leave (if you decided to leave). Since you have money problem and not really enjoying the game, I am wondering whether do you want to enlist in our Super Soldier Programme (SSP). It is designed for players who are two months old and above. As long as you can make some ISKs and dont mind getting blown up (in a silly way), the corp. will help you out a little.
In SSP, you will do some fundamental mining so you may not have ISKs problem in the long run. We will also teach you how to fight^^.
Summarising this SSP, we are basically giving you an intro in getting podded until you will no longer feel the pain nor fear of getting podded or losing ships. You will specialise in 0.0 training and survival camps. You will specialise in being the front line interception team and you WILL fly your first interceptor-class ships in no time and be very good in it. Our SSP is dedicated to bring the best in pilots before they proceed to anything bigger than cruisers.
The programme is dedicated to bring the fun in your Eve-world. Hope to hear from you soon.   
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LegendHawk
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Posted - 2005.10.26 21:30:00 -
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ITs called pure LUCK,
when I am 1st week into EVE,
got a faction drop,
100 mil,
just keep hunting those NPC I say.
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2005.10.27 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Pagefault
Maybe you should consider changing that corp.
That sounds like the best advice... when I read the original post, my first thought was "So where is this guy's corp?"
If your corp can't or won't keep you solvent, take your skills elesewhere. I'd bet you're doing more for them than they are for you.
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Ky Vatta
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Posted - 2005.10.27 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Corunna ElMan
Originally by: Pagefault
Maybe you should consider changing that corp.
That sounds like the best advice... when I read the original post, my first thought was "So where is this guy's corp?"
If your corp can't or won't keep you solvent, take your skills elesewhere. I'd bet you're doing more for them than they are for you.
It sounds like he did the usual thing, and joined a n00b corp; a lot of these newer players don`t seem to understand how corps are run, but just want to be the Boss.....
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Thorindor
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ky Vatta
If your corp can't or won't keep you solvent, take your skills elesewhere. I'd bet you're doing more for them than they are for you.
It sounds like he did the usual thing, and joined a n00b corp; a lot of these newer players don`t seem to understand how corps are run, but just want to be the Boss.....
Ok if a corp isn't supposed to assit its members with training and advice what is it supposed to due? I'm getting killed by corp's wars, so why shouldn't I get some of the rewards other ppl get from fighting for their corps? A corp shouldn't be a one way street.
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:41:00 -
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Um... that's what we are trying to tell you. It's clear that you're not getting those benefits, therefore you must be in the wrong corp.
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Greyshadow
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Posted - 2005.10.28 13:27:00 -
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I'd advise leaving that corp, and joining a mining corp thats not at war, build some isk up train your skills for combat as well (if you want to go down that path) so if you want to join a corp for war your better prepared.
"Everybody is a winner baby thats the truth, well apart from the losers who lose obviously" |
Dustin
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Posted - 2005.10.28 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: Dustin on 28/10/2005 21:13:57
Originally by: Greyshadow
I'd advise leaving that corp, and joining a mining corp thats not at war, build some isk up train your skills for combat as well (if you want to go down that path) so if you want to join a corp for war your better prepared.
You really need a solid squad.
Greyshadow's advice is superb. But a better corp is only half the equation. 3 to 5 people who gang up whenever they are online and work towards the same goals.
Eve is a multiplayer game. Try to play it with other people. Remember, even if the people you are playing with are super veterans, there is almost always a role a cheap frigate can play in what they are doing. And 3 people in cheap ships working together can be a surprising effective force.
Ratting, Mining and PVP just go so much better with some people working together.
Ratting/complexes
3 frigates can go into much more dangerous space if they stick together and support each other. Plus, if one gets blown up, it's cheap!
1 or 2 cruisers with one fast frigate to clean up the loot cans works really well too. If you have some ewar on the frigate and are careful you can make things a lot easier on the cruiser or BC.
Mining
1-3 miners (osprey or barge is best bug even a dual miner II frig is decent), one Combat Space Patrol, one hauler and you can clean up on higher end ore.
PVP
3 people in cheap frigates that are well fitted with complimentary gear can make life hell for solo players. A cheap frigate with tackling gear can make a Battle Ship twice as effective.
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Where there is no common power, there is no law, where no law, no injustice. Force, and fraud, are in war the cardinal virtues. - Hobbes |
Knoppaz
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Posted - 2005.10.29 08:21:00 -
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After 1 month in a battlecruiser and miningbarge? 
What are your secondary skills at?
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