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Mal Mandrake
Zeta Fleet
Joint Alliance Blue
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Posted - 2011.10.21 00:45:00 -
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Just wanted to share a few thoughts and see if discussion can emerge.
I personally choose not to have multiple accounts, but I am not against them. It may be important to have a combat pilot on one account and a money maker on another. This thread is not about having multiple accounts. It is about people running multiple instances of Eve at the same time.
Does any of the followings instances bother you, annoy you, make Eve unbalanced? Do you think this defeats the multiplayer part of the game? Or maybe you don't give a crap, and don't think it matters? Either is cool just wanting to see whats up in the community.
Neutral Repping -
Is the problem the fact that neut repping exists, or instead that one person will have 3 other accounts logged on doing the repping?
Mass mining -
How bout a guy running a couple miners and a hauler all by himself? (To be honest as an industrial guy not in an industrial corp, mining by myself a lot, I hate these guys the most.)
Scanner/SB pvp- How bout those guys who scan you down and kill you with his SB using his other account?
How about RF (Red Frog) doing freighters hauls with neutral alts in NPC corps? Don't you just want to find em and blow them up anyway?
Cyno alts - Let's face it, you need a cyno to get around out there, and it sucks trusting someone else to do it for you, I understand this one.
Thoughts?
-Mal Mandrake
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Alara IonStorm
Caldari State
91
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Posted - 2011.10.21 00:47:00 -
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Mal Mandrake wrote:
I personally choose not to have multiple accounts
You too huh.
Alara is my Main and Only.
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non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
94
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Posted - 2011.10.21 00:50:00 -
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People can name heaps of reasons when an alt is helpful in Eve.
If you're trying to say you're better because you don't, it's a bit silly.
Its a game people will play it how they play it. Mostly it's easier to do some things with an alt. Without alts it makes team work more important. Neither way is better than another.
Try not to make it look like you're crying because its unfair what others get away with, with more than one alt. |
Mal Mandrake
Zeta Fleet
Joint Alliance Blue
5
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Posted - 2011.10.21 00:55:00 -
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non judgement wrote:People can name heaps of reasons when an alt is helpful in Eve.
If you're trying to say you're better because you don't, it's a bit silly.
Its a game people will play it how they play it. Mostly it's easier to do some things with an alt. Without alts it makes team work more important. Neither way is better than another.
Try not to make it look like you're crying because its unfair what others get away with, with more than one alt.
There was only a little bit of personal crying in my post. Specifically the part about the miners.
It is really meant to just be a discussion. Most people can at least agree that having multiple accounts in a benefit, but let me remind you that is not the purpose of the thread. It is about multiplaying, and how it affects you.
Support it, don't support it, it is all good with me. This thread isn't going to stop or change anything. I am aware of the reality in which I play.
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THERisingPHOENIX
Phantom Fenix
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Posted - 2011.10.21 00:58:00 -
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Same here, the other alts just minor forum warrior alts.
Also: Needing a seperate cyno alt sucks for me :(( |
Htrag
The Carebear Stare
Hydroponic Zone
10
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Posted - 2011.10.21 00:58:00 -
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If jumping through a gate without knowing whats on the other side makes you feel like billy badass by all means.
The only crap thing about multi accounting is the decrase in performance since the incarna debacle and continuing to this day.
Whatever "dev" it was that removed the pod squish sound probably never even logged into the game. |
Karadion
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2011.10.21 01:00:00 -
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Don't come crying to us when we shoot down your ship because you jumped through blind. |
adopt
We Need A Home
75
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Posted - 2011.10.21 01:01:00 -
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I have 5 accounts as of yesterday, jelly bro?
Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled. |
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
94
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Posted - 2011.10.21 01:04:00 -
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Well I'd say that an alt helps most when you're in a corp and not many people in that corp are online (timezone issues or some other reason). If you want to move a ship and need to scout or cyno alt. |
Mal Mandrake
Zeta Fleet
Joint Alliance Blue
5
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Posted - 2011.10.21 01:09:00 -
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non judgement wrote:Well I'd say that an alt helps most when you're in a corp and not many people in that corp are online (timezone issues or some other reason). If you want to move a ship and need to scout or cyno alt.
I agree that having a cyno or scout alt is almost necessary for "safe" travel. |
Dessau
1
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Posted - 2011.10.21 01:10:00 -
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Don't know anyone who plays this game, so it makes the activities in which I wish to partake less impossible. |
Russell Casey
One Ton
THREE WOLF
35
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Posted - 2011.10.21 01:11:00 -
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I thought this was going to be another martyr complaining about EVE's lack of "solo" content. |
Scarcane
Tapp Inc.
1
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Posted - 2011.10.21 01:47:00 -
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I saw something like 18k people logged on earlier tonight, which thinking about the amount of people that openly run multiple accounts - Hell I heard of someone octoboxing (8 accounts at once) - does that mean in actual reality there were about 6-7k people on?! And if these miners like the OP mentioned are pilling up the isk at such ease, where is ccps future funding going to come from? Incursions are already driving the market into oblivion, all of a sudden a billion will become the new million, not the current hundred million (if you get me)
Going back to what the OP was saying. I partly agree, having multiple accounts partly negates the need for assistance from others. The element of bringing people together to beat another group of people is a part of the experience that I really enjoy, thats what really captured me with Eve from the beginning.
an alt has almost become a necessity because of everyone else running them. Especially if you plan on pvp, in which case multiple alts are nice.
But has it ruined my Eve? Nah I wouldn't have as much isk or as many options and I still run around in fleets, but with the capability of two chars specialised on different paths. |
Mal Mandrake
Zeta Fleet
Joint Alliance Blue
5
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Posted - 2011.10.21 01:48:00 -
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Russell Casey wrote:I thought this was going to be another martyr complaining about EVE's lack of "solo" content.
Single player content = ship spinning, and that is enough for me.
If I wanted single player content, I'd play WoW. Or maybe try some other genre than MMO.
There are plenty of single player space games out there. |
Roosterton
Eternal Frontier
99
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Posted - 2011.10.21 01:49:00 -
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I pride myself on this being my only account.
That said, no, I'm not particularly annoyed by people who multibox. Just means more pewing  |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2011.10.21 02:04:00 -
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I only have 1 account! I used to have 2 but when my money maker got the skills I needed I transferred it onto my other account and cancelled the extra  |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
396
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Posted - 2011.10.21 02:13:00 -
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I don't have alts.
I have multiple accts with multiple characters specializing in various things.
It's pretty rare that I have more than one character logged in at the same time. I just log in the one who's talents are needed at that time.
On top of that I have characters that are actually in different corps that are at war with each other. So if I logged them in at the same time I'd have to pod myself. And that would be just too weird. Even for EVE.
Mr Epeen
If you can read this, you haven't blocked me yet. |
Kengutsi Akira
70
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Posted - 2011.10.21 02:25:00 -
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I run a missioner and a salvager
or a miner/hauler
or a miner/Orca
makes my life much easier
running two clients at the same time, each sized to half my screen.
works well. The only "annoying" thing is forgetting I cant just pull the mouse across both clients to directly drop ore into the hauler lol
What Mittani wants, Mittani gets, Mittani help us all
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Henry Haphorn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2011.10.21 02:43:00 -
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I'm a miner and I run only two accounts. I felt that its more than enough for me to mine with just one Hulk and an Orca. So far, been doing better than when I had one account. However, that doesn't mean I'll be putting in more accounts as I find it a bit over the top to have three or more. You remember the old saying: Two is a couple, three is a crowd? Yeah, that's how I see it. |
Handsome Hussein
54
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Posted - 2011.10.21 02:47:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I only have 1 account! I used to have 2 but when my money maker got the skills I needed I transferred it onto my other account and cancelled the extra
Heading that way myself. Hoping to have it all done before my kid arrives.
Leaves only the fresh scent of pine. |
Jooce McNasty
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2011.10.21 02:51:00 -
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I have 3 accounts, I only need two.
Once you get to capital ships it becomes mandatory to have a 2nd account. I made the mistake of selling a Char of my 2nd account then canceling the sub on that account. I realized when I tried to move my carrier that I couldn't due to the 2nd account with the cyno alts on it.
My 3rd account just trains and will be used to Awox ****, and then sell the Character in the next year to continue funding my pvp. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
0
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Posted - 2011.10.21 03:03:00 -
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Only multi account I don't like is the miner who legitimately is mining with 25 characters at once (using a program that allows the keyboard to control every open client, which is allowed by CCP... yeah, I had to ask them that one). I warped in saw all the miners with the same name with a number at the end and was sooooooo tempted to report as a bot...
But oh well such is life.
Note: yes I have one account. Can't afford more. I'm poor. So what. |
Flyinghotpocket
Ascetic Virtues
4
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Posted - 2011.10.21 04:36:00 -
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the ability to have alts really destroyed an entire section of the game, transporting. could be a really cool aspect having people who like transporting stuffs but since everybody has an alt that entire kick ass part of the game, its gone. i can name like 1 or 2 corps in this game that actually do transporting.
there could be a LOAD of transporting corps but as i said before, alts destroyed that part of the game. |
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
96
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Posted - 2011.10.21 04:43:00 -
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There are a few huge transporting corps. Most people call them npc corps. |
Jita Bloodtear
Bloodtear Labs
14
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Posted - 2011.10.21 04:45:00 -
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Multiboxing is ruining my Eve experience because I'm compelled to play in windowed mode at the smallest resolution with all the graphics turned off. No sound, no immersion, nothing like that. Each client becomes a tool, a means to accomplish a goal. I haven't ever really truly played the game the way it was meant to be played, nor do I ever expect to. |
Sebero Sinak
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2011.10.21 05:04:00 -
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For me it did effect my Eve experience.. i did the 3 accounts, 2 pc's, built my own "U" shaped table with wings and shelves for notebooks, monitors, roll the chair around .
Guess what , after awhile i realised being the isk machine i thought i was wasn't much fun. This is just me but i wasn't having fun anymore.
Dropped two accounts ( well that was mostly Incarna but the time was right) . One character starting over - it's fun, i don't care how much isk i have. I know how to have fun in a frigate and make enough isk to get by.
Those who need more then one account - thats thier business, i'm sure they have better eve stuff then me - but i enjoy my play time so it's cool. |
Zoe Alarhun
The Proactive Reappropriation Corporation
35
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Posted - 2011.10.21 05:05:00 -
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Single account here. I do have the second character slot trained up for a hauler as I can't enter high sec. I also created a character in the third slot for checking prices in different regions, but obviously I can only have 1 logged in at a time. |
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
40
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Posted - 2011.10.21 05:10:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:the ability to have alts really destroyed an entire section of the game, transporting. could be a really cool aspect having people who like transporting stuffs but since everybody has an alt that entire kick ass part of the game, its gone. i can name like 1 or 2 corps in this game that actually do transporting.
there could be a LOAD of transporting corps but as i said before, alts destroyed that part of the game.
The issue is more that unless it's a full freighter load, most people want to pay peanuts per jump. (My alts haul lots of stuff - but only for people on my contact list, very rarely will I run a public courier contract.)
Solution? Start up your own hauler service, focus on the stuff that can be hauled in an Orca, undercut Red Frog's prices.
(Red Frog didn't become big overnight - it took a fair amount of work by the organizers, setting up the rules, networking with the haulers, building that network of contacts and customers.)
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Reeno Coleman
64
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Posted - 2011.10.21 06:34:00 -
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I always played with one account exclusively.
But I can see the need for some people to have more. You can't always rely on others. Becomes painfully obvious when you are FCing and need a a back scout or something like that.
With no drive to to leadership or corp logistics i was always fine with a single account. |
Florestan Bronstein
The Waterworks
120
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Posted - 2011.10.21 06:40:00 -
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multiplayer is totally ruining my eve
but running multiple accounts at the same time is just fine - would never have 3 accounts subscribed if I could only use one at a time.
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