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Callas
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Posted - 2003.08.05 10:58:00 -
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I joined about 11:50 (ten mins before downtime).
I didn't see a "shutdown now" message.
Did anyone else?
-- Callas
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Orcus
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:00:00 -
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They shut down 5 minutes early today.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:01:00 -
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Callas - yes, there was a shutdown message.
Yes, they shut down 5 minutes early - FFS, what's the score with that? Does someone need to learn how to tell the time again?
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:01:00 -
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lol, the cretins.
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Alpha Centauri
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:02:00 -
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I noticed that! stole an entire 5 minutes away :( sneaky!
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Callas
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:08:00 -
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Edited by: Callas on 05/08/2003 11:11:12
Quote: Callas - yes, there was a shutdown message.
A final "going down now" message?
I saw the "one hour to go", and I was not logged in for the "15 minutes" message.
I saw no "going down now" message.
The reason I'm asking is that I was waiting to place a buy order immediately before downtime.
Since downtime came without warning, I had not placed the buy order.
I'm likely to be out another 6.2m profit.
CCP appear amateurish at times.
When you say the server is going down and then up at given times, it is *BAD PRACTISE* to use different times - early or late - because people will actually expect the times you have given them to be correct and will base other activities upon them.
Late times can be unavoidable of course, if there are problems or bugs, as sometimes happens when patches are applied.
But early is unforgiveable, because it is not necessary in any way.
CCP have taken as we know to restarting the server early over the last two weeks or so. I lost quite a lot of money because of that, on the day it first started.
If there was no "going down now" message I will be very annoyed, because it's been a normal part of shutdown behaviour since day one and it is expected and people base actions upon it. Sloppy behaviour on the part of CCP shafts players who are placing buy orders prior to downtime and it's *totally unnecessary*.
I'm sure a few people - perhaps even CCP - will mention "it's just a game". This is true. It is a game, and I spend hours playing it and expect to reap the rewards of my effort inside that game. I do not expect the time I put into playing the game to be carelessly thrown away by the needless actions of others.
-- Callas
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Entity
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:08:00 -
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CCP is right on time.
Y'know when you approach lightspeed you'll get an effect called "time dilation". This causes your clock to skew from the real time CCP has. Really, the downtimes always start exactly at 11 GMT and last exactly 1 hour!!!
*snicker*
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Mandos
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:10:00 -
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Quote: CCP is right on time.
Y'know when you approach lightspeed you'll get an effect called "time dilation". This causes your clock to skew from the real time CCP has. Really, the downtimes always start exactly at 11 GMT and last exactly 1 hour!!!
*snicker*
 Good one!
-- Mandos Polaris Forum Moderator and Bug Hunter EVE Forum rules |

Psyco Groupie
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:11:00 -
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just log off 10 minutes before, dumbass 
* ******* Crazy |

Tharrn
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:12:00 -
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Why do you have to place your buy order in the last 30 seconds? Are the last ten minutes not good enough? I am sure there is a reason - just curious here.
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:16:00 -
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Put very simply : the last person to place an order gets it filled first. It's one of the many exploitable "features" of the market.
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Endyl
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:18:00 -
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Prolly because he found out that market offer are based on Last In-First Out queue.
Imho that's foolish, good to see that it doesn't work every time.
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Nightwing
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:19:00 -
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Quote: Put very simply : the last person to place an order gets it filled first. It's one of the many exploitable "features" of the market.
So, you are mad you didn't get to exploit?
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:19:00 -
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LOL... makes sense... if you apply a very weird logic.
What *****s me up is that Callas, who complained about the buy orders loudly, seems to have mastered the art of using them best now. The irony of these boards is unbeatable sometimes :)
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:20:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Put very simply : the last person to place an order gets it filled first. It's one of the many exploitable "features" of the market.
So, you are mad you didn't get to exploit?
Me? I don't do trading mate...
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Callas
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:22:00 -
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Edited by: Callas on 05/08/2003 11:23:46
Quote: Why do you have to place your buy order in the last 30 seconds? Are the last ten minutes not good enough? I am sure there is a reason - just curious here.
It appears that the last buy order placed before reset is processed first.
Plenty of people are competing to place buy orders.
It's vital to be as late as possible in placing your order, or other people will get their orders in after you and pre-empt you.
-- Callas
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:22:00 -
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Y'know when you approach lightspeed you'll get an effect called "time dilation".
And when you concider our warp-speed is about 1000 times the speed of light it's easy to understand why things get messed up. 
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Callas
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:23:00 -
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Quote: So, you are mad you didn't get to exploit?
Indeed I am.
If you care to read other posts from me, you'll know that I'm also mad that I have to exploit, or I make zero money (as has happened today).
-- Callas
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DJvGalen
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:32:00 -
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I really pity you pathetic people. ------------------------------------------------ CCP please fix your patch so I can play with my corpmates again soon. |

Callas
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:36:00 -
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Quote: I really pity you pathetic people.
It's sad you want to try and hurt others by saying so in such a way.
If we are pathethic, then it blights our lives and we have much to do to become normal. Does this justify your harshness? of course not.
I think really it's not pity, but insecurity and a desire to find others to hold in contempt.
You should consider your own issues, not those of others.
-- Callas
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:36:00 -
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Go mine Uranus.
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DJvGalen
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:39:00 -
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Quote: Go mine Uranus.
This reminds me of a Alien Sex Fiend song...
Drive my Rocket up Uranus, baby. Drive my rocket ship, just a little...further...baby. ------------------------------------------------ CCP please fix your patch so I can play with my corpmates again soon. |

GALAGA
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:39:00 -
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Yes, there was the 15 minute warning message and also the last message Callas.
I managed to get in in time to get your extra 6.2 million robotics profit :P
And I doubt that the great Callas lost any money, unless you bought high and sold low. You just werent able to satisfy your greed as you wanted in profit is all.
Thank you CCP for the opportunity to make some profit from Callas's mistake. lol
----------------------------------------------- "The Light shineth in the darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not." |

DJvGalen
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:47:00 -
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Quote: It's sad you want to try and hurt others by saying so in such a way.
If we are pathethic, then it blights our lives and we have much to do to become normal. Does this justify your harshness? of course not.
I think really it's not pity, but insecurity and a desire to find others to hold in contempt.
You should consider your own issues, not those of others.
-- Callas
Really, I pity you that you all have to resort to using a exploit in the system just to make some game money. And then you're here to complain about how you can't do the exploit because CCP is late or early with taking the server offline, that is just pathetic.
My issues are of a reallife nature and therefor I won't state them here, but you all know that your account's are elegible for BANNING, right ? ------------------------------------------------ CCP please fix your patch so I can play with my corpmates again soon. |

Quiz
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:56:00 -
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The early downtime didnt give me enough time to retrieve my ammo from a can near a planet. So i guess i have to go the 12 jumps to the nearest station just to get more ammo. Bah.
A day without getting ****ed at CCP in this game would be nice.
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Gone2mars
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Posted - 2003.08.05 12:06:00 -
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Quiz - Get some Lasers mate ;)
"Beer - Helping White Guys Dance Since 1842" |

Callas
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Posted - 2003.08.05 12:14:00 -
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Quote: Yes, there was the 15 minute warning message and also the last message Callas.
That final message then was over seven minutes prior to the ending of the game.
Quote: And I doubt that the great Callas lost any money, unless you bought high and sold low.
As discussed recently in the "*Angry*" thread, certain income which is not obtained is a loss.
Quote: You just werent able to satisfy your greed as you wanted in profit is all.
Curious. Greed. When does the desire to make money become greed? you want to make money as well, do you not? how come your desire is not greed, but mine is?
-- Callas
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Ilyana
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Posted - 2003.08.05 12:16:00 -
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So Callas, a day without your profit..maybe others get a chance today. Get over it.
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Callas
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Posted - 2003.08.05 12:17:00 -
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Quote: Really, I pity you that you all have to resort to using a exploit in the system just to make some game money.
You would do well to read the "*Angry*" thread.
Right now, there is a choice; mogul or pauper.
If you don't place buy orders, you get *nothing*. It stinks, but that's how it is.
-- Callas
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Callas
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Posted - 2003.08.05 12:24:00 -
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Quote: So Callas, a day without your profit..maybe others get a chance today. Get over it.
The only other people making money are the other moguls.
My loss is only the gain to a different region-wide buy order. There are many, many people placing region wide buy orders.
Also, I lost my 6.2m yesterday as well due to a different screwed up set of behaviour from the market.
I am growing decidely unimpressed with Eve ATM.
The whole market situation is farcial in the first place, and it's gone on for four months.
CCP have had time and more in which to fix this matter, and they have not. Why not?
-- Callas
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