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Cipher7
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.01 21:30:00 -
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Halete wrote:
No, I'm taunting you for polishing your gemstone with a filthy rag, whilst your foes run it through a woodchipper.
Jamyl Sarum is a foe.
Amarr ideology is a foe.
You're nobody's foe, you're a follower.
Ironically it wasn't the woodchipper that brought you around to their servitude, it was their writing, they conquered you with speeches and words. The same battle of speeches and words that your kind are constantly losing and wish to be abandoned in favor of violence.
ie if you can't win on one battlefield, sue for another.
The pen is mightier than the sword.
If you ever doubt the effectiveness of Psy Ops, note how well it worked on you. |
Cipher7
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.01 21:46:00 -
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Desiderya wrote:You're considering the Amarr Empire - at this very moment - an existential threat to the State and the caldari people.
Nobody ever said "We're only going to reclaim Minmatar." |
Cipher7
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:18:00 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
What I did outline was that Liberalism as an political ideology espousing the primacy of individual liberty either finds itself in the extremism of Anarchism and the flawed pursuit of maximum liberty with the absence of State authority or in a more moderate form as Democracy.
Democracy swaps the people from protectee to protectors of the state, because the people believe they /are/ the state, while the intellectual classes use media to manufacture their opinions and thus steer the herd.
It is not the opposite of statism, but a more advanced form of it, it's forms of control are MUCH stronger and MUCH harder to break than merely using force to shut dissenters up, because those dissenters become the federation's biggest supporters, all their passion and energy instead of getting directed at the federation, are directed at its enemies, and all the internal security you would otherwise need can be diverted to better use.
So no, the Federation isn't the polar opposite of the Caldari State, but a better version of it.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
to me the most effective solution to negate the "existential threats" the Federation or Empire may pose to State survival would be to invade and partition the Minmatar Republic under a strengthened State-Imperial Pact.
Yeah because capturing Caldari Prime worked out so well.
The Empire has been trying to sue us for peace since the great rebellion.
The stomping you will receive at our hands would be legendary. Please don't let me dissuade you from invading, we could use the pieces of your ships to build more of ours. |
Cipher7
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:53:00 -
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Halete wrote:
I witnessed the baleful, viperous hordes of the Minmatar and only then after years of careful contemplation was I ready to make my decision.
And then you looked in the mirror and saw a baleful, viperous Minmatar?
"But I'm not baleful or viperous"
Right, and neither are trillions of people you paint with a broad brush.
They are the same as you, minus the brainwashing. |
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