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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:20:00 -
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Welcome to the party
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:20:00 -
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- OMG Where are my guns?! -
We watched Empire catch on fire and had to sit back and watch. No more. How dare the lot of you start burning the place up without us!
Quote: 2005.10.27 20:01:00 Mercenary Coalition has declared war on The Five. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
It's not an empire war until the MC is involved. You may start now.  -
A Tribute to 4S Corp |

Nafri
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:21:00 -
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I admit, expected you on the other side --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Put your panties on your head! |

Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:22:00 -
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Didnt take you long to realise Empire > 0.0 
Eyeshadow i think i still owe you a 1v1 eh? Let's use the occasion to settle that. 
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N2IHC
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:22:00 -
[5]
HF guys.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:22:00 -
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I love you, Seleene. --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:22:00 -
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Edited by: Zzazzt on 27/10/2005 21:22:35 5th *\o/*  ____________________________________________
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:25:00 -
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Hf MC, im sure you will.
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:26:00 -
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Cool, welcome to the party
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri I admit, expected you on the other side
I think youre not the only one who expected that.
HF MC!!!
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri I admit, expected you on the other side
Kinda urinates on all the haters that claim MC are anyones puppets, no?
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Hypocratus Maximus
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:28:00 -
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Atleast everyone knows who is winning and who needed to spend billions to get some backup.
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:30:00 -
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go mc.
guess we scared pa a little too much 
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Larsson7
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:30:00 -
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Got nothing but respect for the great guys of the Mercenary Coalition and looking forward to some great fights with you guys.
Sorry to say that my alt has not trained all the necessary skills to fly the MC Lottery Zealot so gotta deny you guys the pleasure of that kill 
Have fun!
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Nafri I admit, expected you on the other side
Kinda urinates on all the haters that claim MC are anyones puppets, no?
well we will see 
and tbh, I expected the south to pay MC, not the north, or maybe thy just want to have fun --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Put your panties on your head! |

Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow Didnt take you long to realise Empire > 0.0 
Eyeshadow i think i still owe you a 1v1 eh? Let's use the occasion to settle that. 
id forgotten all about that but tbh, 1on1 ishtar versus zealot (i believe it was?) would be a very 1 sided fight with tracking disruptors as they are now
plus i dislike arranged 1v1 
My Latest Vid: Linky |

Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Nafri I admit, expected you on the other side
Kinda urinates on all the haters that claim MC are anyones puppets, no?
Agreed, MC are clearly their own boss, and always have been. And yes, this does clearly show whos winning so far.
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Pehova Mindtriq
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:33:00 -
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Nice choice, I guess MC needed some real pvp after the vacation in geminate. Pretty sure both sides will enjoy this, good luck 
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Glassback
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:35:00 -
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Weeeee! (Worng is the new pwnd, us it) |

Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:36:00 -
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Any conspiracy theorist worth their salt would suspect BoB of hiring them on 5 since after all we are too cowardly to fight them... ....
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Larsson7 Sorry to say that my alt has not trained all the necessary skills to fly the MC Lottery Zealot so gotta deny you guys the pleasure of that kill 
Awww.. now THAT woulda been pretty funny! Or... you killing us with a ship you won from us... not so funny.  -
A Tribute to 4S Corp |

Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow id forgotten all about that but tbh, 1on1 ishtar versus zealot (i believe it was?) would be a very 1 sided fight with tracking disruptors as they are now
plus i dislike arranged 1v1 
meh Ishtar vs Zealot wouldnt be possible anyway due to some shortage of funds on my end *coughs*
Id do inty vs inty tho? :P Those i can afford to lose \o/
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Caybn E'vangel
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Nafri I admit, expected you on the other side
Kinda urinates on all the haters that claim MC are anyones puppets, no?
Agreed, MC are clearly their own boss, and always have been. And yes, this does clearly show whos winning so far.
Just like V and SA joining the figt means the 5 were losing....NOT.
Stop making senseless statements unless you have sumin to back it up with.
Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Hypocratus Maximus Atleast everyone knows who is winning and who needed to spend billions to get some backup.
Interesting concept. SirMolle might disagree with you on that idea. ____________________________________________
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Hassis
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
We watched Empire catch on fire and had to sit back and watch. No more. How dare the lot of you start burning the place up without us!
Quote: 2005.10.27 20:01:00 Mercenary Coalition has declared war on The Five. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
Just curious did someone hire you or you did it on your own? :)
UA Industry :: We produce frags |

Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:42:00 -
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whats better then beeing paid to have and give fun ?
Thanks for coming and game on guys. We will enjoy it.
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Fred0
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Zzazzt Interesting concept. SirMolle might disagree with you on that idea.
Omg, that's actually pretty close to the truth.
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Just like V and SA joining the figt means the 5 were losing....NOT.
Stop making senseless statements unless you have sumin to back it up with.
Well, someone apparently pays large sums of ISK to shift the war into someones favor, and here's the hint, it's definitely not in ours 
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Hypocratus Maximus
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Zzazzt
Originally by: Hypocratus Maximus Atleast everyone knows who is winning and who needed to spend billions to get some backup.
Interesting concept. SirMolle might disagree with you on that idea.
lool, there was a post about how your very allinace was looking for donations. this was posted a few days ago. lying 4tl F-E
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Vegas
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:45:00 -
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Welcome MC
Quote: a) You were "boarding" your pod... which is admittedly rather silly since technically you never left it.
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ohalland 2
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:46:00 -
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if The Five declares it mutual it seems to me that'd put MC outta business 
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FoxHunt
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:51:00 -
[32]
Leave enough five for the rest of us, MC.
"If laughter truly is the best medicine, then the story you told me just cleared up my Hepatitis."
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: ohalland 2 if The Five declares it mutual it seems to me that'd put MC outta business 
Why? When the contract is over, we'll "surrender" or whatever. If not, we just keep on shooting. I'm going to lose sleep worrying about this. Honest.  -
A Tribute to 4S Corp |

Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:55:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Caybn E'vangel
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Nafri I admit, expected you on the other side
Kinda urinates on all the haters that claim MC are anyones puppets, no?
Agreed, MC are clearly their own boss, and always have been. And yes, this does clearly show whos winning so far.
Just like V and SA joining the figt means the 5 were losing....NOT.
Stop making senseless statements unless you have sumin to back it up with.
Um, last i checked V and SA were not mercenaries. A mercenary being someone you pay large sums of money to do a job you need help with.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:55:00 -
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to be fair I hired them to even the odds a little.
On another note:
Enslaver, hold me! I'm scared 
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:57:00 -
[36]
Good luck, MC  - Proud member of the [23].
Don't get the reference in my sig? Click it.
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Kate Moss
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:00:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Darken Two
Just like V and SA joining the figt means the 5 were losing....NOT.

its like comparing oranges and beets
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Destroyer Draxx
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: Destroyer Draxx on 27/10/2005 22:04:44 nm
So Far So Good....So What |

Equinox II
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:05:00 -
[39]
Heh, interesting times indeed :)
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:08:00 -
[40]
just keep off our turf you killmail stealer u o/
good luck guys and welcome to the party :D
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:20:00 -
[41]
Quote: lool, there was a post about how your very allinace was looking for donations. this was posted a few days ago. lying 4tl F-E
Wrong get you facts strait.. NBSI dont use mercs period
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:23:00 -
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seriously, when are G, IRON, BOB and ASCN gonna get in on the act and declare?
Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
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Draximus Cane
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:25:00 -
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Come on The Five aren't smaking us, we ar'nt smaking The Five, you got your own threads to do that in please. :)
I am sure my respect will still be high for 5 even after the war, unlike some previous marks I will not mention.
To the gentelmen that ask are we doing this for fun, No we don't need to have "make believe" clients, however I am sure it will be fun.
Good fights ahead, respect to the client and respect to the mark.
DraXXX
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anister
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:26:00 -
[44]
fkjds;fkjfsdlsjfkfj
I hate fighting people i respect, still, all's fair in love and war.
Welcome to the fray. ___
I refuse to change my sig every time someone wardecs us. |

Obidios
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:26:00 -
[45]
Sweet, hope for some good fights. ----------------- [url="http://five.killboard.podzone.net/showPlayer.php?id=80 "[url]
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Gissa
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:28:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Caybn E'vangel
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Caybn E'vangel
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Nafri I admit, expected you on the other side
Kinda urinates on all the haters that claim MC are anyones puppets, no?
Agreed, MC are clearly their own boss, and always have been. And yes, this does clearly show whos winning so far.
Just like V and SA joining the figt means the 5 were losing....NOT.
Stop making senseless statements unless you have sumin to back it up with.
Um, last i checked V and SA were not mercenaries. A mercenary being someone you pay large sums of money to do a job you need help with.
Well KIA is missing somewhere in this equation? Did they not join V?
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Tesk Malloc
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:29:00 -
[47]
Just as long as MC bring roasted ham in their holds and not boiled, I am sure we will all be happy.
Tesk Malloc - Hired Scum, Murderer and All Round Nasty Piece Of Work
"You can't love life too much. Everybody dies." |

Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gissa Well KIA is missing somewhere in this equation? Did they not join V?
Yes, they did. Though you obviously missed the part where KIA stated their issues with PA are a personal matter, not a contract.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:38:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Gissa
Well KIA is missing somewhere in this equation? Did they not join V?
they just wanted a free war-dec on F-E and NBSI 
Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
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Shittake
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:39:00 -
[50]
Ok, I admit it, I personally hired MC to declare on 5 and didn't tell anyone in my alliance about it.
Thanks for taking my contract Selene :)
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:42:00 -
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2005.10.27 22:41:00 Band of Brothers has declared war on Mercenary Coalition. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
That'll learn you Seleene 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Shittake
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight 2005.10.27 22:41:00 Band of Brothers has declared war on Mercenary Coalition. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
That'll learn you Seleene 
I'm sure Selene's competant group of mercs will be happy to have more targets to shoot at.
I think this has will officially become the biggest clusterhump in Eve Empire Space history.
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Zarthanon
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight 2005.10.27 22:41:00 Band of Brothers has declared war on Mercenary Coalition. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
That'll learn you Seleene 
BoB have 3 Wars they have issued. If my memory serves me right, you can only have a max of 3 issued if none are mutual... meaning that that's fake. BoB wouldn't have the testicular fortitude to war dec MC anyways.
Originally by: ParMizaN i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk
Originally by: Buddrow TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO
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Equinox II
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim think we are here ahead of the devs. "cold war" "redmoon rising" seem abit weak for whats going on. "Flames of mayhem" is more like it. Game on guys ;)
Well, it's not like they have ever been right.. Exodus (from empire) - Everyone fled from 0.0.. Cold War - Doom, destruction and hell-blazing fire from the sky, total Eve World War... Dunno what to make of red moon rising tho :)
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:55:00 -
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Now I realy feel like the bastard child, everyones at war and I dont have the isk to join in :(
buhu

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Hobblin I
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Tesk Malloc
Originally by: Gissa
Guess the north is winning atm, since Five are pulling their emergency parachutes in?
Shouldn't that be putting our emergency parachutes out?
Pulling them in would make for a faster, and I fear, rather messy landing.
Tesk you were always so.... good with words.
I <3 you so much 
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Recluse XXX
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight 2005.10.27 22:41:00 Band of Brothers has declared war on Mercenary Coalition. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
That'll learn you Seleene 

On a more serious note..
This will be fun! I have had a couple of extremly booring weeks watching people dock and undock until I beacme to dizzy to play.
I have much respect for the Five and expect to kill and be killed by skilled pilots that dosent run away as soon as they see a red blip in the sky.
So, lets keep it clean and mature....and Enslavers Hac far away from me and this should be a blast!
//Rec
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:00:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Naphtalia
Originally by: Gissa
Guess the north is winning atm, since Five are pulling their emergency parachutes in?
No.. NO NO LIES!!! BoB just wanted to shoot MC because MC wanted to be 'in on the war' BoB just was a bit late and missed the fact that MC already declared on someone.
.5. doesn't need help they are killing the MC at the gates of Jita like the infidels they are
Yes of course...
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Rohann
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:00:00 -
[59]
Hi I am fishing.
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ZelRox
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:00:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Zarthanon
Originally by: Blacklight 2005.10.27 22:41:00 Band of Brothers has declared war on Mercenary Coalition. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
That'll learn you Seleene 
BoB have 3 Wars they have issued. If my memory serves me right, you can only have a max of 3 issued if none are mutual... meaning that that's fake. BoB wouldn't have the testicular fortitude to war dec MC anyways.
And here comes the smack ----------------------
I wanna tuc tuc .. |

Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:01:00 -
[61]
I'm eating a bourbon biscuit atm
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Fangdango
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:03:00 -
[62]
Trooper my OLD friend,
You have picked the wrong side :))
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:03:00 -
[63]
Originally by: w0rmy Now I realy feel like the bastard child, everyones at war and I dont have the isk to join in :(
buhu

I know a way to fix your problem...
Read my recruitment thread and find out  ----------------
RecruitMe@NOINT! |

Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:03:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Cartiff I'm eating a bourbon biscuit atm
I`m fat and ate all mine 
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:03:00 -
[65]
/me gets out his Orvis Fly Rod.
Whhhhiiiizzzzzzz... GOT ONE! GOT ANOTHER! GOT A BUNCH!
Damn blacklight, you can sure pick some good fishing holes 
-Druid
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Rohann
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:03:00 -
[66]
Is it good?
Cuz I just caught a couple of nubs.
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Bullvar
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:04:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Cartiff I'm eating a bourbon biscuit atm
i hope u choke on it u nub. jaffa cakes 4tw
anyways good luck and game on, and trooper see u on the otherside of the battleground, its just as well your fast coz yer hopeless lmao,jk. good luck to all parties and have fun
Heidbanger / Bullvar
today is a good day to die!!!
WWW.SUPREMACY-EVE.COM |

Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:04:00 -
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Edited by: Tholarim on 27/10/2005 23:04:28 It's true, since i told blacklight that seleene stole his jack daniels.
And it was on.
Also, the five begged for help. Yep, so we did. Since raping three alliances all over the place is just breaking our morale.
edit: 4 alliances, my bad.
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KingAc
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tesk Malloc Just as long as MC bring roasted ham in their holds and not boiled, I am sure we will all be happy.
We will only bring out KladdKaka to the fights :D
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:06:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Zarthanon
Originally by: Blacklight 2005.10.27 22:41:00 Band of Brothers has declared war on Mercenary Coalition. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
That'll learn you Seleene 
BoB have 3 Wars they have issued. If my memory serves me right, you can only have a max of 3 issued if none are mutual... meaning that that's fake. BoB wouldn't have the testicular fortitude to war dec MC anyways.
Yeah... erm because you're all uber and all that lol
Eve Blacklight Style
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Endeva
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Hypocratus Maximus Atleast everyone knows who is winning and who needed to spend billions to get some backup.
yup.thats right
OMGGGGG my first forum post
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:07:00 -
[72]
Originally by: KingAc
Originally by: Tesk Malloc Just as long as MC bring roasted ham in their holds and not boiled, I am sure we will all be happy.
We will only bring out KladdKaka to the fights :D
I think i speak for my whole alliance when i say .. "eewrgs" -.-
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Proconsul Para
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: Proconsul Para on 27/10/2005 23:10:35 Edited by: Proconsul Para on 27/10/2005 23:09:53
Originally by: Tesk Malloc
Originally by: Gissa
Guess the north is winning atm, since Five are pulling their emergency parachutes in?
Shouldn't that be putting our emergency parachutes out?
Pulling them in would make for a faster, and I fear, rather messy landing.
This post is worth a brazillion isk.
Shield Inversion works best at lighting cigarettes in windy weather.
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Alberta
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:12:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Zarthanon
Originally by: Blacklight 2005.10.27 22:41:00 Band of Brothers has declared war on Mercenary Coalition. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
That'll learn you Seleene 
BoB have 3 Wars they have issued. If my memory serves me right, you can only have a max of 3 issued if none are mutual... meaning that that's fake. BoB wouldn't have the testicular fortitude to war dec MC anyways.
Yeah... erm because you're all uber and all that lol
Back! BACK! Back in the cage you!
My Thoughts on Game Balance |

Rohann
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:12:00 -
[75]
BL u have hijacked this thread I order u to stop.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:14:00 -
[76]
This post will be landing in Cuba shortly, where we demand that all the virgins of the revolution be released.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:17:00 -
[77]
Viva la revolutione!
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:17:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Dianabolic This post will be landing in Cuba shortly, where we demand that all the virgins of the revolution be released.
I'm going to own you, Diana. What size collar do you wear? 
Oh, and an alliance CAN have more than three war decs going. We found this out during our war with ASCN. At one point, we had five declared wars. Not sure if that's a bug or not... -
A Tribute to 4S Corp |

Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:19:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Dianabolic This post will be landing in Cuba shortly, where we demand that all the virgins of the revolution be released.
I'm going to own you, Diana. What size collar do you wear? 
Oh, and an alliance CAN have more than three war decs going. We found this out during our war with ASCN. At one point, we had five declared wars. Not sure if that's a bug or not...
enslaver whispered something about ccp removing that limit... he's a nub so dont hold to much in his words
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:22:00 -
[80]
lol this has to be the best thread hijack ever performed in the history of eve :P
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:31:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Hypocratus Maximus
Originally by: Zzazzt
Originally by: Hypocratus Maximus Atleast everyone knows who is winning and who needed to spend billions to get some backup.
Interesting concept. SirMolle might disagree with you on that idea.
lool, there was a post about how your very allinace was looking for donations. this was posted a few days ago. lying 4tl F-E
That want completely over your head, eh? 
For you, the Renaissance is something that happened to other people, isn't it? ____________________________________________
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:37:00 -
[82]
Zzazzt 4tw 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:37:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Hypocratus Maximus Atleast everyone knows who is winning and who needed to spend billions to get some backup.
And tenth post down yay smacktatrds 4tw, way to send a post in a wrong direction.
Have fun mc, how come i never get to shoot you though, about the only eve entity ive never shot at.
Pat and Max sitting in a tree, K I S S I N G MAXSuicide > dude, u couldnt get enough of me the other night Cmdr Patrick > i love you |

Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:52:00 -
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Seleene! STOP FOLLOWING US AROUND, THIS IS GETTING SILLY.!!. I know you look up to us and everything but this have to stop now. 
No seriusly though. Welcome to where the fun is guys. It's so much more constructive than babysit over a station.
Also for the persons who state that the other side is losing becus their hiering mercs to do their job. I whould like to remind you of a policy SirMolle once stated. Mercs can never alone bring down an alliance. But Mercs can put greater pressure on it. Only time will tell if Mercs contribute to put enough pressure on 5 to dispand it. This says nothing about the faction who hired them other than their willing to pay for mercs. When 5 made the war mutual they also said they whould only except a surrender under said conditions. Question is. Since this is a mutual war. How will 5 take it if they are the once who have to beg for surrender? Since they expect that of the other side. I often use a quote now and then to illustrate double moral: "What goes around, comes around". 5 knows this haven't been as easy as they have predicted. We're only one week into this and the dawn of realisation of what they have barked themself onto now begins to be clear. Who will stand on the end of the line as the strongest? Who will be a clear victor as one side have to beg. No other justification will be able to get you out of that. You might think this is some proclamation of greatness, then I just got to say it's not. It's about saying that: "It's hard to predict what will happend, espesially about the future" The future is unsure. The strongest will come out at the end victor. Means and justifications mean nothing. Strongest survives. Bought sides now this. So stop proclaiming your own greatness and get to work on the field. Holding propaganda here will never make you survive this war. Take it as you like. I'll still see you on the field.
Oh.. And I still lub you all..  SoonÖ
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.28 00:01:00 -
[85]
so much for the missile nerf thread record 
GL to all and have fun  ________________
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.10.28 00:01:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Blacklight Zzazzt 4tw 
<3  ____________________________________________
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Obidios
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Posted - 2005.10.28 00:04:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Muthsera Seleene! STOP FOLLOWING US AROUND, THIS IS GETTING SILLY.!!. I know you look up to us and everything but this have to stop now. 
No seriusly though. Welcome to where the fun is guys. It's so much more constructive than babysit over a station.
Also for the persons who state that the other side is losing becus their hiering mercs to do their job. I whould like to remind you of a policy SirMolle once stated. Mercs can never alone bring down an alliance. But Mercs can put greater pressure on it. Only time will tell if Mercs contribute to put enough pressure on 5 to dispand it. This says nothing about the faction who hired them other than their willing to pay for mercs. When 5 made the war mutual they also said they whould only except a surrender under said conditions. Question is. Since this is a mutual war. How will 5 take it if they are the once who have to beg for surrender? Since they expect that of the other side. I often use a quote now and then to illustrate double moral: "What goes around, comes around". 5 knows this haven't been as easy as they have predicted. We're only one week into this and the dawn of realisation of what they have barked themself onto now begins to be clear. Who will stand on the end of the line as the strongest? Who will be a clear victor as one side have to beg. No other justification will be able to get you out of that. You might think this is some proclamation of greatness, then I just got to say it's not. It's about saying that: "It's hard to predict what will happend, espesially about the future" The future is unsure. The strongest will come out at the end victor. Means and justifications mean nothing. Strongest survives. Bought sides now this. So stop proclaiming your own greatness and get to work on the field. Holding propaganda here will never make you survive this war. Take it as you like. I'll still see you on the field.
Oh.. And I still lub you all.. 
some sense there I guess, I could hardly read it thru the white joining mu eyes.............. Will s.a.s haev a stand up fight and not warp people into a clear gank.... like actually fight? Not smack, a lot of us respect s.a.s but pls try and engage normally ----------------- My killboard doesnt do bb images :/ |

thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.10.28 00:09:00 -
[88]
welcome to the party.. gl (not too much and hf) 
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

Eleese
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Posted - 2005.10.28 00:25:00 -
[89]
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.10.28 00:26:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Obidios
some sense there I guess, I could hardly read it thru the white joining mu eyes.............. Will s.a.s haev a stand up fight and not warp people into a clear gank.... like actually fight? Not smack, a lot of us respect s.a.s but pls try and engage normally
I knew that whould come up. It's like us saying don't bring so god damn many next time and we have a flame war going. Today I learned we took on a equal gang. (typical. I'm gone one day and the others get all the damn fun) So keep in mind that we're not to many and when you come whit 2or3 x our numbers we're not able to take you on. You got to remember mate. We play eve for the fight. So we most likely take you on whit greater numbers. But there is also a greater objective on this. And I understand you guys using blobs as a mean to achive objectives.
But thats not our beef as we currently don't got the numbers and the effective player base to do it. But I'm not going to complain about you outblobbing us. Thats your choice to make. We'll take you on the times we feel we can and over that I can't really promice to much. So please don't say we always fight in unfair numbers. Although we do like good gank.. 
SoonÖ
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.10.28 00:31:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Zzazzt
That want completely over your head, eh? 
For you, the Renaissance is something that happened to other people, isn't it?
Nice one.
 SoonÖ
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.10.28 00:42:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Muthsera
Originally by: Obidios
some sense there I guess, I could hardly read it thru the white joining mu eyes.............. Will s.a.s haev a stand up fight and not warp people into a clear gank.... like actually fight? Not smack, a lot of us respect s.a.s but pls try and engage normally
I knew that whould come up. It's like us saying don't bring so god damn many next time and we have a flame war going. Today I learned we took on a equal gang. (typical. I'm gone one day and the others get all the damn fun) So keep in mind that we're not to many and when you come whit 2or3 x our numbers we're not able to take you on. You got to remember mate. We play eve for the fight. So we most likely take you on whit greater numbers. But there is also a greater objective on this. And I understand you guys using blobs as a mean to achive objectives.
But thats not our beef as we currently don't got the numbers and the effective player base to do it. But I'm not going to complain about you outblobbing us. Thats your choice to make. We'll take you on the times we feel we can and over that I can't really promice to much. So please don't say we always fight in unfair numbers. Although we do like good gank.. 
Yes all we ever do is blob...honestly i know u didnt intend it to sound like smack but tbh i think you need to phrase your posts better.
Both the 5 and the Northern chums do things that annoy the other side and tbh both sides do the same tactics
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Mortuus
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Posted - 2005.10.28 00:51:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Obidios
some sense there I guess, I could hardly read it thru the white joining mu eyes.............. Will s.a.s haev a stand up fight and not warp people into a clear gank.... like actually fight? Not smack, a lot of us respect s.a.s but pls try and engage normally
Just to point out. Both sides are pretty guilty of this. I remember trying to get near even fights in empire and having to flee from 10+ ceptors/AFs/HACs/Cruisers/BS in my Wolf. So nobody gets to complain about getting ganked. I know 5. are not interested in fair fights when they have a chance of losing.
So lets continue the fun, get back to the killing, and stop the smack. BTW, are RISK hired this time or just for fun?
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.10.28 01:07:00 -
[94]
blob ganks?? So what this is war. I can say so fare in the war NBSI has done extremly well against our enemyes. If you died of ganks or getting blob dont whine do something about it..
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.10.28 01:10:00 -
[95]
So MC posted saying they where joing and u lot turned it into a flame post...
wtg
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.10.28 01:22:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Kaleeb
Yes all we ever do is blob...honestly i know u didnt intend it to sound like smack but tbh i think you need to phrase your posts better.
Both the 5 and the Northern chums do things that annoy the other side and tbh both sides do the same tactics
Yeah. Your just repeating what I said now. I just used other words.
And no I didn't intend it as smack. I'm just saying. We could go on and on and on and on about who is the worst of this and that. But in the end. If you feel you resort to one tactic I'm not going to ***** at you for doing that. We will just have to adapt to that. After all it's my objective to get a kill on you. And I expect that in return tbh. I know you can fight. You've put losses on us that we're really not used to. Codus for that. And I'm not saying you fly in blobs all the time either. I'm just saying you have a tendency to do it. Either to get ppl safe trough the pipe or you do it for some other reasons. It's not my beef to judge that.
I'm sorry I can't word it any more neutral that this. It's not intended as smack but if thats what you want I'll be glad to give you some lub.. Good smack is so rare to come by these days.
SoonÖ
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Lek'karion
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Posted - 2005.10.28 01:37:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Hassis
Originally by: Seleene
We watched Empire catch on fire and had to sit back and watch. No more. How dare the lot of you start burning the place up without us!
Quote: 2005.10.27 20:01:00 Mercenary Coalition has declared war on The Five. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
Just curious did someone hire you or you did it on your own? :)
Why kill people for free when you can be paid to kill people :) That's always been my thought. ....................................... FREEDING FRENZY ______)\______)\_____/(_______ ______)\______\o/____/(_______
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.10.28 01:39:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Farjung on 28/10/2005 01:40:31
Originally by: j0rz So MC posted saying they where joing and u lot turned it into a flame post...
wtg
Wouldn't really be a proper MC press release if it didn't incite flames and sandwich recipes tbh.
I want new videos damn it.
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Arrgs
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Posted - 2005.10.28 01:47:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Farjung Edited by: Farjung on 28/10/2005 01:40:31
Originally by: j0rz So MC posted saying they where joing and u lot turned it into a flame post...
wtg
Wouldn't really be a proper MC press release if it didn't incite flames and sandwich recipes tbh.
I want new videos damn it.
2 slices of sour dough bread several slices of ham some provolone cheese some tomatos
toast bread. Fry ham and tomatos in a pan over medium flame until they look done. melt slice of cheese over the ham. put on bread and enjoy.
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gizli
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Posted - 2005.10.28 01:50:00 -
[100]
loud noises!!!!
I dont know what we're yelling about!!!!!
hf:p
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Danks
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Posted - 2005.10.28 02:01:00 -
[101]
Wow, I leave work and have a few beers with friends and come home to a 4 page topic. Erm, who did we declare on again, i forgot....
Oh yeah, hi Mom!
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2005.10.28 02:25:00 -
[102]
bah 5 get all the fun.
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Balazs Simon
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Posted - 2005.10.28 02:36:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Balazs Simon on 28/10/2005 02:37:08 Welcome in the party MC!!
We had 363 attacks on this week, and we just celebrated the 1000th final blow!! S.hitload of targets out there ... \o/
I personaly always hated empire, and empire wars.. but hell, this one is soo damn cool!
smack: only had one.. thlung ofc... who else?! :)
To BOB: you made MolRob sad.. he just cryed out "I want BOB back!!" when we scrambled a Geddon with 4 points and it jumped out , at least you guys fitted hardeners ...  I know I know kill it before it can jump... ;)
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This post is my personal opinion. It does not represent the standpoint of the HUN Corporation in any way. - |

Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2005.10.28 04:45:00 -
[104]
have to admit, a bit surprised to see you on our side, but welcome to the fun 
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Lord Gunstar
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Posted - 2005.10.28 05:24:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Tiuwaz have to admit, a bit surprised to see you on our side, but welcome to the fun 
they are mercs, they were hired to be on your side
     
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.28 06:35:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Farjung Wouldn't really be a proper MC press release if it didn't incite flames and sandwich recipes tbh.
Oh, look! It's Farjung the ebil pirate! 
Get your ass back here where you belong, damnit! When the Enslaver safespots with his seven other accounts, we need your help to bust him!  -
A Tribute to 4S Corp |

Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.10.28 06:42:00 -
[107]
OMG why im i not appart of this =(
Well guess eve empire never been close to something like this before, and for the partyes invlowed i wish u all the best off fun. =)
Tho i be sending my regards to Bapwn =) _________________ http://asuya.eve-killboard.net/ |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.28 06:56:00 -
[108]
Good luck to both sides.
Good to see FE paying loadsa money to give [5] even more pvp.
Thol and stan must be peeing themselves with laughter at the moment.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Jungle Jim
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Posted - 2005.10.28 07:17:00 -
[109]
Welcome to the fray MC...
And Farjung/Vels.... get back in FRICK.. or no more bananas!
\o/ Frick!

*** Proud First Time Winner of the MLM Muppet Award *** |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.28 07:22:00 -
[110]
Originally by: DB Preacher Good luck to both sides.
Good to see FE paying loadsa money to give [5] even more pvp.
Thol and stan must be peeing themselves with laughter at the moment.
dbp
Come to think of it, Seleene must be wetting herself with joy as well.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2005.10.28 07:27:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Antoinette Civari
Originally by: Darken Two
Just like V and SA joining the figt means the 5 were losing....NOT.
Stop making senseless statements unless you have sumin to back it up with.
Well, someone apparently pays large sums of ISK to shift the war into someones favor, and here's the hint, it's definitely not in ours 
*cough*KIA*cough* ----------------- T2 Destroyers: a proposal |

Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.28 07:35:00 -
[112]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: DB Preacher Good luck to both sides.
Good to see FE paying loadsa money to give [5] even more pvp.
Thol and stan must be peeing themselves with laughter at the moment.
dbp
Come to think of it, Seleene must be wetting herself with joy as well.
dbp
Enslaver tried to write me a poem last night. Loxy asked me about our characters doing some kind of R-rated video together. I swear, if the next thing is Chowdown singing to me, I'm safespotting in Jita and playing WoW for a month.  -
A Tribute to 4S Corp |

Jherek Cornelian
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Posted - 2005.10.28 07:37:00 -
[113]
Originally by: DB Preacher Good luck to both sides.
Good to see FE paying loadsa money to give [5] even more pvp.
Thol and stan must be peeing themselves with laughter at the moment.
dbp
BoB hire MC it's a masterstroke.
The North hire MC it's playing right into 5's hands.
The double standards from people in this game are shocking. Really laughably shocking.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.28 07:41:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Jherek Cornelian
Originally by: DB Preacher Good luck to both sides.
Good to see FE paying loadsa money to give [5] even more pvp.
Thol and stan must be peeing themselves with laughter at the moment.
dbp
BoB hire MC it's a masterstroke.
The North hire MC it's playing right into 5's hands.
The double standards from people in this game are shocking. Really laughably shocking.
Not going to highjack this thread but all I'll say is this:
When hiring a merc force, the most essential element is timing.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Tr4XX
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Posted - 2005.10.28 07:42:00 -
[115]
im starting to like the forums
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Tr4XX
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Posted - 2005.10.28 07:43:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Tr4XX on 28/10/2005 07:44:02
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Jherek Cornelian
Originally by: DB Preacher Good luck to both sides.
Good to see FE paying loadsa money to give [5] even more pvp.
Thol and stan must be peeing themselves with laughter at the moment.
dbp
BoB hire MC it's a masterstroke.
The North hire MC it's playing right into 5's hands.
The double standards from people in this game are shocking. Really laughably shocking.
Not going to highjack this thread but all I'll say is this:
When hiring a merc force, the most essential element is timing.
dbp
cant beat bobs timing challenging a NPC region about a year before it actually becomes possible on TQ 
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.10.28 07:44:00 -
[117]
Edited by: KIAEddZ on 28/10/2005 07:44:24 KIA interest in this war, is only the punishment of the PA, we are not contracted, this is a purely personal matter.
Unfortunatley for FE and NBSI, the PA are cowering behind them, and thus we must go thrugh them to get to our quarry.
And from a purely personal perspective, the PA it would seem, are not interested in the fight, and their sugar daddys are doing all the work.
KIA's killboard has never looked so good.
Welcome to the fray MC and BoB. Interesting times ahead.
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Kate Moss
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Posted - 2005.10.28 07:54:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Jherek Cornelian
Originally by: DB Preacher Good luck to both sides.
Good to see FE paying loadsa money to give [5] even more pvp.
Thol and stan must be peeing themselves with laughter at the moment.
dbp
BoB hire MC it's a masterstroke.
The North hire MC it's playing right into 5's hands.
The double standards from people in this game are shocking. Really laughably shocking.
.....lol
So, you mean to say that BoB hired MC to give .5. more fun?
Look, all you F-E guys are starting to look pretty bad. Intel was leaked that persheipane (sp) was seeking contributions to hire them. I mean, give up the spin, admit you paid them and have some frickin balls.
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Jherek Cornelian
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:00:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Kate Moss
Originally by: Jherek Cornelian
Originally by: DB Preacher Good luck to both sides.
Good to see FE paying loadsa money to give [5] even more pvp.
Thol and stan must be peeing themselves with laughter at the moment.
dbp
BoB hire MC it's a masterstroke.
The North hire MC it's playing right into 5's hands.
The double standards from people in this game are shocking. Really laughably shocking.
.....lol
So, you mean to say that BoB hired MC to give .5. more fun?
Eh ?
No that is far from what I mean. In fact I don't think it could be further.
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Dawson
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:01:00 -
[120]
Well good luck guys, will be intresting.
// DawZ
Admiral of the Blue Join BSC |

Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:09:00 -
[121]
Ooooo, I just got interested in EVE again.
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Lowa
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:10:00 -
[122]
Did someone say
?
Yes please, I'll take some and a glass of Rioja, Grand Res if possible. Thanks!
Yay for the fun ahead, realized I havent been able to play properly in a war since the F-E one. I will do my outmost to be in this one I could use the frapsies! 
Cheers, LOWA
Contact Mercenary Coalition |

Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:16:00 -
[123]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Jherek Cornelian
Originally by: DB Preacher Good luck to both sides.
Good to see FE paying loadsa money to give [5] even more pvp.
Thol and stan must be peeing themselves with laughter at the moment.
dbp
BoB hire MC it's a masterstroke.
The North hire MC it's playing right into 5's hands.
The double standards from people in this game are shocking. Really laughably shocking.
Not going to highjack this thread but all I'll say is this:
When hiring a merc force, the most essential element is timing.
dbp
*yawn* ____________________________________________
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Spiff Jones
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:26:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Hypocratus Maximus
Originally by: Zzazzt
Originally by: Hypocratus Maximus Atleast everyone knows who is winning and who needed to spend billions to get some backup.
Interesting concept. SirMolle might disagree with you on that idea.
lool, there was a post about how your very allinace was looking for donations. this was posted a few days ago. lying 4tl F-E
im not bothered to read the rest of this thread, but shut the **** up you retareded ass alt... you have no opion... im tired of alts thinking they matter, you have NO opionion... no alts have opinions... just ******* big ass tools, too afraid to show who you are...
hyprocratus maximus, well done, good name, now **** right off, grow some balls and post with your main...
im so ******* tired of alts, so tired, whether they're a northern fanboy or southern fayboy or bob fanboy whatever it just ****ed me off people are afraid to show who they are... i mean are you that uselles you're gonna get tooled by saying what you wanna say on the forums... okay sorr for the rant, but atls **** off, if you are actually a person of substance or believe in what you stand for you'd not hide behind a ******* fake name
so **** off, come back with your main and you can have an opinion... other than the
**** RIGHT OFF YOU ******* NOOB ASS MOTHER ****** GROW SOME ******* BALLS
kthxbye
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:32:00 -
[125]
Tbf Dbp, I doubt FE knew you were about to dec MC when they hired them.
So why? Is the question on everyones lips. Why have BoB decced the strongest Merc Corp in the game.
Well I will answer that question.
BoB beat KIA, no 2 ways about it. They got lucky ;), and KIA was in an awfull shape internally, the rebuild is well on the way though, our killboard is testament to that. But defeated we were, and with our tails between our legs, we withdrew, living fight another day.
Only 1 entity left for BoB to beat to prove they are no.1 PvP force in EVE, thats the MC. This is how they will view it, being no.1 has always been BoBs motivation.
I gotta feeling, that MC are in a far better place than we were at the time of our contract vs BoB, so that will be a very ineteresting fight, will be keeping an eye on it for sure.
All in all, there is a lot of fun to be had at the moment, but lets not lose sight of the reality of this scale of conflict, there WILL be winners and losers in all the battles, and when the fun runs out, and attrition sets in, when the grinding down of an opponent reaches its critical stage, I know who my money is on to be left standing.
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Jungle Jim
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:33:00 -
[126]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Jherek Cornelian
Originally by: DB Preacher Good luck to both sides.
Good to see FE paying loadsa money to give [5] even more pvp.
Thol and stan must be peeing themselves with laughter at the moment.
dbp
BoB hire MC it's a masterstroke.
The North hire MC it's playing right into 5's hands.
The double standards from people in this game are shocking. Really laughably shocking.
Not going to highjack this thread but all I'll say is this:
When hiring a merc force, the most essential element is timing.
dbp
So timing the contract to start AFTER the MC's original contract finishes?
  
*** Proud First Time Winner of the MLM Muppet Award *** |

Dr MOo
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:42:00 -
[127]
Edited by: Dr MOo on 28/10/2005 08:42:59
Originally by: KIAEddZ Edited by: KIAEddZ on 28/10/2005 07:44:24 KIA interest in this war, is only the punishment of the PA, we are not contracted, this is a purely personal matter.
Unfortunatley for FE and NBSI, the PA are cowering behind them, and thus we must go thrugh them to get to our quarry.
And from a purely personal perspective, the PA it would seem, are not interested in the fight, and their sugar daddys are doing all the work.
KIA's killboard has never looked so good.
Welcome to the fray MC and BoB. Interesting times ahead.
They are fighting RISK in branch. Is smacktalk also part of your crusade against PA?
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:44:00 -
[128]
I hope my ISP ***ness during peak hours (80% packet loss to TS and uplayable eve) fixes itself. Or i'll have to get myself a new ISP for this fight 
p.s. nobody ever ever ever use Tiscali =/
Cya in Jita. ---------------
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:45:00 -
[129]
Originally by: KIAEddZ Tbf Dbp, I doubt FE knew you were about to dec MC when they hired them.
So why? Is the question on everyones lips. Why have BoB decced the strongest Merc Corp in the game.
Well I will answer that question.
BoB beat KIA, no 2 ways about it. They got lucky ;), and KIA was in an awfull shape internally, the rebuild is well on the way though, our killboard is testament to that. But defeated we were, and with our tails between our legs, we withdrew, living fight another day.
Only 1 entity left for BoB to beat to prove they are no.1 PvP force in EVE, thats the MC. This is how they will view it, being no.1 has always been BoBs motivation.
I gotta feeling, that MC are in a far better place than we were at the time of our contract vs BoB, so that will be a very ineteresting fight, will be keeping an eye on it for sure.
All in all, there is a lot of fun to be had at the moment, but lets not lose sight of the reality of this scale of conflict, there WILL be winners and losers in all the battles, and when the fun runs out, and attrition sets in, when the grinding down of an opponent reaches its critical stage, I know who my money is on to be left standing.
Um, Blacklight was yanking people's chain. Check in-game :).
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Sivona
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:51:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Farjung
Originally by: KIAEddZ Tbf Dbp, I doubt FE knew you were about to dec MC when they hired them.
So why? Is the question on everyones lips. Why have BoB decced the strongest Merc Corp in the game.
Well I will answer that question.
BoB beat KIA, no 2 ways about it. They got lucky ;), and KIA was in an awfull shape internally, the rebuild is well on the way though, our killboard is testament to that. But defeated we were, and with our tails between our legs, we withdrew, living fight another day.
Only 1 entity left for BoB to beat to prove they are no.1 PvP force in EVE, thats the MC. This is how they will view it, being no.1 has always been BoBs motivation.
I gotta feeling, that MC are in a far better place than we were at the time of our contract vs BoB, so that will be a very ineteresting fight, will be keeping an eye on it for sure.
All in all, there is a lot of fun to be had at the moment, but lets not lose sight of the reality of this scale of conflict, there WILL be winners and losers in all the battles, and when the fun runs out, and attrition sets in, when the grinding down of an opponent reaches its critical stage, I know who my money is on to be left standing.
Um, Blacklight was yanking people's chain. Check in-game :).
shhh Far its quite funny to watch all the analysis of the non-existant war dec.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:52:00 -
[131]
Edited by: Beringe on 28/10/2005 08:52:51
Originally by: DB Preacher
Not going to highjack this thread but all I'll say is this:
When hiring a merc force, the most essential element is timing.
dbp
Speaking as a neutral third party, I would say that the timing is pretty good.
Huge alliance war just starting against a force that hasn't really lost (in this incarnation) a direct (edit: and that excludes POS-wars and the like) war against anyone?
If you gotta hit them, hit the hard at the very beginning...
Really, I can't say the timing is exactly bad. How do you figure? ------------------------------------------- Sometimes, I wake up but keep on dreaming. |

Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:52:00 -
[132]
OK, STOP. The hijack has gone on long enough. TBH, I'm amazed it lasted this long. Before anyone else gets too emotionally involved with this thread, let me make it clear:
BoB has not war decced the MC.
Blacklight just decided to have a bit of fun and until Eddz's post, I damn near forgot about it. It did, however, cause quite a jump in Alliance chat last night with everyone double checking their inboxes. 
Sorry to spoil your fun, Blacklight, but this thread needs to get back on track.
TBH, if BoB actually did declare on the MC we'd be a bit upset. More targets = good, except I'd see it as similar to what happened with the SA / SE war. They were all geared up for a big ole fight until [5] put their support behind SA. Almost overnight, the entire situation resolved itself. BORING!
Granted, this is a much different situation, but me and my boys (and Zajo ) are keyed up something fierce to finally have a shot to go head-on against one of the strongest entities in the game. We have no qualms about BoB adding themselves to the mix, but I really don't think Stan, Chow and the rest want the help. They'll win this thing on thier own or die trying and that's respectable.
The MC has taken hits all year for being "BoB / 5's Puppets" or "Only hitting soft targets" (basically every other alliance in the game). We knew when we left Geminate that it wouldn't take long for someone to involve us in this mess. Our involvement on either side might turn the tide, or it might not mean a damn thing.
Regardless, Eddz is right about one thing - the MC is ready for this. It's the war (BoB or 5) that we've been building towards for over a year. Win, lose or draw, [5] is going to know they've been in a very nasty brawl when the smoke clears. 
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A Tribute to 4S Corp |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:53:00 -
[133]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 28/10/2005 08:54:24 Seleene said it.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:55:00 -
[134]
This might be the hardest test MC has faced.
I'm eagerly waiting the results (safely on the sidelines). ------------------------------------------- Sometimes, I wake up but keep on dreaming. |

Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:56:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Seleene I'd see it as similar to what happened with the SA / SE war. They were all geared up for a big ole fight until [5] put their support behind SA. Almost overnight, the entire situation resolved itself. BORING!
You have to understand tho, from our pov that its better to have stability than war near home . It may be boring, but in the long term its in a way helped create this big ol empire-fest  ---------------
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.10.28 08:59:00 -
[136]
Damn you guys. :) lol @ myslef here.
BUT HAD BOB DECCED MC, my analysis would be spot on. k!! ;) :) xx
Well then, my original post should of read summin like this.
Gl MC, 5 are by far the toughest contract you have taken on yet, but MC are by far the best Mercs to for the job. Gl to both sides.
KNEW I should of checked in game first.
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2005.10.28 09:04:00 -
[137]
Originally by: KIAEddZ Damn you guys. :) lol @ myslef here.
BUT HAD BOB DECCED MC, my analysis would be spot on. k!! ;) :) xx
Well then, my original post should of read summin like this.
Gl MC, 5 are by far the toughest contract you have taken on yet, but MC are by far the best Mercs to for the job. Gl to both sides.
KNEW I should of checked in game first.
He He He

Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here |

pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.10.28 09:08:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Spiff Jones
Originally by: Hypocratus Maximus
Originally by: Zzazzt
Originally by: Hypocratus Maximus Atleast everyone knows who is winning and who needed to spend billions to get some backup.
Interesting concept. SirMolle might disagree with you on that idea.
lool, there was a post about how your very allinace was looking for donations. this was posted a few days ago. lying 4tl F-E
im not bothered to read the rest of this thread, but shut the **** up you retareded ass alt... you have no opion... im tired of alts thinking they matter, you have NO opionion... no alts have opinions... just ******* big ass tools, too afraid to show who you are...
hyprocratus maximus, well done, good name, now **** right off, grow some balls and post with your main...
im so ******* tired of alts, so tired, whether they're a northern fanboy or southern fayboy or bob fanboy whatever it just ****ed me off people are afraid to show who they are... i mean are you that uselles you're gonna get tooled by saying what you wanna say on the forums... okay sorr for the rant, but atls **** off, if you are actually a person of substance or believe in what you stand for you'd not hide behind a ******* fake name
so **** off, come back with your main and you can have an opinion... other than the
**** RIGHT OFF YOU ******* NOOB ASS MOTHER ****** GROW SOME ******* BALLS
kthxbye
Riker? is that you?
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Kantar
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Posted - 2005.10.28 09:10:00 -
[139]
See y all on the battlefield 
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.10.28 09:13:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Amthrianius I hope my ISP ***ness during peak hours (80% packet loss to TS and uplayable eve) fixes itself. Or i'll have to get myself a new ISP for this fight 
p.s. nobody ever ever ever use Tiscali =/
Cya in Jita.
Im going to buy a whole fleet of kestrals to suicide at you just for old times sake |

Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.10.28 09:17:00 -
[141]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Come to think of it, Seleene must be wetting herself with joy as well.
dbp
I don't who was happier when the war dec went through last night, Jita local or MC alliance chat. 
Remember, it doesn't matter who hired us, though you're of/c free to speculate, the only thing as Seleene says is everyone has a good time.
\o/
*Troop goes off humming*
WAR! uh! whats it good for! absolutely everything! yeah! uh-huh! . . .
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2005.10.28 09:18:00 -
[142]
I hired MC cos 5 is killing our wabbits.
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.10.28 09:25:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Spiff Jones
im not bothered to read the rest of this thread,
------ RANT WORTHY OF ZDGRAVA --------
kthxbye

breathe man, breathe.... ____________________________________________
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.10.28 09:29:00 -
[144]
Edited by: Zzazzt on 28/10/2005 09:29:37
Originally by: KIAEddZ
KNEW I should of checked in game first.
You're such a forum hooer... ____________________________________________
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Progeny Soames
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Posted - 2005.10.28 09:31:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Cartiff I'm eating a bourbon biscuit atm
Hmmmm. Is that a Peek Freans Bourbon biscuit?
If it is, make sure you have a drink nearby, they can be a little on the dry side.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.10.28 10:02:00 -
[146]

Still chuckling long and hard about this one 
Thanks Seleene for being very gracious about my little hijack! Good luck to [5] and MC, have fun peeps!
...and Eddz ... lollerskates, unlucky mate 
Eve Blacklight Style
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.10.28 10:03:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Blacklight ...and Eddz ... lollerskates, unlucky mate 
lol, you git.
If i ever see you on the battlefield, your Primary ;)
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.28 10:06:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Balazs Simon when we scrambled a Geddon with 4 points and it jumped out
heh, havent seen you in more then a t1 frig yet and your smacktalking allready...
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Mr Presidant
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Posted - 2005.10.28 10:07:00 -
[149]
oh my god chandler bing! death to 5!
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.28 10:18:00 -
[150]
Edited by: Seleene on 28/10/2005 10:18:29
Am I the only one who thinks the V.I. ticker under KIA Corp looks...well, strange? Just freaking me out a bit, Eddz. 
Originally by: Blacklight Thanks Seleene for being very gracious about my little hijack!
/emote hacks into Blacklight's account and declares on [5].  -
A Tribute to 4S Corp |

Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.10.28 10:21:00 -
[151]
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Originally by: Blacklight ...and Eddz ... lollerskates, unlucky mate 
lol, you git.
If i ever see you on the battlefield, your Primary ;)
No change there then 
/fits 7 x 1600mm plates to my apoc
Eve Blacklight Style
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.10.28 10:39:00 -
[152]
Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 28/10/2005 09:19:09
Originally by: Amthrianius I hope my ISP ***ness during peak hours (80% packet loss to TS and uplayable eve) fixes itself. Or i'll have to get myself a new ISP for this fight 
p.s. nobody ever ever ever use Tiscali =/
Cya in Jita.
Im going to buy a whole fleet of kestrals to suicide at you just for old times sake
Thats reason enough tbh *goes to request MAC code from his ISP* ---------------
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.10.28 10:40:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Originally by: Blacklight ...and Eddz ... lollerskates, unlucky mate 
lol, you git.
If i ever see you on the battlefield, your Primary ;)
No change there then 
/fits 7 x 1600mm plates to my apoc
Hahaha.. I was just about to say. SoonÖ
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.10.28 10:44:00 -
[154]
Have to admit Seleene, it has made me take a double look a few times.
V are a good bunch of guys, with funny accents. Being involved in their fleet ops is fun, although I am constantly fighting the desire to take control, and they do dither a little bit sometimes, overall they are highly organised, and got a lot of bol.ix also. They fight hard, and are even cheerful when their ships are getting mashed.
This short term stay with them, will hopefully benefit them as much as us.
In fact, joining Alliances temporarily, may be a good option for KIA, and a whole new brand of Merc'ing ;) KIA have an awful lot of experience, and sharing osme of that, will help any wmployer stand on their own feet after the contract for KIA expires, it can only be a good thing.
Maybe when the time comes for that MC/KIA/BA joint op, they'll be a space in your alliance chat for us. :)
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Gilad Pellaeon
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Posted - 2005.10.28 10:50:00 -
[155]
Why does everything have to kick off when I move house and can't get t'internet for a Month. Gonna have to pop around my mom's for a brew for an hour or ten. ;)
Have fun boys and girls. _
KIA Corp - Mercenaries for Hire Contemptuous arrogance FREE with every contract |

Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.10.28 10:58:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Gilad Pellaeon Why does everything have to kick off when I move house and can't get t'internet for a Month. Gonna have to pop around my mom's for a brew for an hour or ten. ;)
Have fun boys and girls.
just so its clear, we have only declared on the five, as per our contract. I havent been in game since the declaration so im unsure if Veritas/SA have declared us back, like they did with the northern alliances
Having followed a V fleet up to Tribute last night, i can only hope that they do declare on us as they were ripe for the plucking on numerous occasions  
My Latest Vid: Linky |

Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.10.28 11:19:00 -
[157]
I remember when this war started between 5 and FE, NBSI and PE, and we all heard BoB and others saying we didnt have a chanse, that 5 would come with 250 BS and easily gank us, camp our HQ, and we would disband within a week or so. Well, that certainly didnt happen.
Now, SA, -V-, RISK and KIA is helping 5, and we are still winning. I guess a few alliances underestimated us badly. God, I love this war 
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C4w3
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Posted - 2005.10.28 11:22:00 -
[158]
What have you done Seleene, dont support the crap people ;0=) i dont want you to do that now respond in the only maner you can declare on pa and FE for the love of GOD do as ur told..... hehehe
Happy Halloween.
Mvuhahaha.

"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |

KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.10.28 11:22:00 -
[159]
Edited by: KIAEddZ on 28/10/2005 11:22:49
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle Now, SA, -V-, RISK and KIA is helping 5, and we are still winning. I guess a few alliances underestimated us badly. God, I love this war 
Your "winning"
1. It is difficult in a conflict of this size, to easily subscribe to who is winning and losing.
2. KIA are not helping 5, your simply between us and the PA.
3. Your not winning.
xx
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Aoun
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Posted - 2005.10.28 11:26:00 -
[160]
Dictionary.com -> 'Winning'
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.10.28 11:27:00 -
[161]
Originally by: KIAEddZ 3. Your not winning.
Well, we just have to wait and see, wont we.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.10.28 11:28:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I remember when this war started between 5 and FE, NBSI and PE, and we all heard BoB and others saying we didnt have a chanse, that 5 would come with 250 BS and easily gank us, camp our HQ, and we would disband within a week or so. Well, that certainly didnt happen.
Now, SA, -V-, RISK and KIA is helping 5, and we are still winning. I guess a few alliances underestimated us badly. God, I love this war 
  
Lord save us, Mangus the scourge of the General Forum and one of the most argumentative PvP noobies in Eve is now on the alliances forum telling us all who's winning a war 
Whatever next?
[5] are doomed with all the talent arrayed against them 
Eve Blacklight Style
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shakaZ XIV
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Posted - 2005.10.28 11:28:00 -
[163]
GL HF gentlemen :>
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.28 11:34:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Balazs Simon To BOB: you made MolRob sad.. he just cryed out "I want BOB back!!" when we scrambled a Geddon with 4 points and it jumped out , at least you guys fitted hardeners ...  I know I know kill it before it can jump... ;)
Feel our pain 
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anister
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Posted - 2005.10.28 11:35:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle and we are still winning.
*anister spits coffee over his keyboard.
Incase you missed the rest of this thread, hiring mercs is not a sign of being the strong side. ___
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.10.28 11:37:00 -
[166]
Actually
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle Now, SA, -V-, RISK and KIA is helping 5, and we are still whining.
Fixed.
(I love FE, nuddin but respect, but this guy asked for it)
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.10.28 11:43:00 -
[167]
Originally by: KIAEddZ Actually
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle Now, SA, -V-, RISK and KIA is helping 5, and we are still whining.
Fixed.
(I love FE, nuddin but respect, but this guy asked for it)
LOL..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.10.28 11:53:00 -
[168]
Oops, looks like I hit right on the target there.
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Spit
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Posted - 2005.10.28 11:57:00 -
[169]
Welcome to the party MC Special hello to Draximus & Eyeshadow 
Spit - CEO Salmissra
Website for details - Salmissra
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:00:00 -
[170]
well who ever wins or looses this is a whole lot of fun for all partys...but one quick point if the northen alliances were beating the 5...why hire the MC? wouldnt it be cheaper and easier for them to continue to do so without external help? now even if by a huge god like miracle they win..they wont get any prestige out of it cause people will say it was the MC participation which swung it around. _____
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:03:00 -
[171]
Originally by: anister
Incase you missed the rest of this thread, hiring mercs is not a sign of being the strong side.
Correct. It's not a sign of anything other than the ability to pay upfront & an indication of tactical wisdom. ____________________________________________
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:05:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Spit Welcome to the party MC Special hello to Draximus & Eyeshadow 
Hey old timer, hows tricks? That uber carebear BC still playing?
My Latest Vid: Linky |

Fearn
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:06:00 -
[173]
this is gonna be fun :D
gl hf
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:09:00 -
[174]
Originally by: anister Incase you missed the rest of this thread, hiring mercs is not a sign of being the strong side.
Thats not really true. All it means is that you can afford it, and that you can use the additional tactical elements a merc corp provides.
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Braincandy
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:14:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Originally by: Spit Welcome to the party MC Special hello to Draximus & Eyeshadow 
Hey old timer, hows tricks? That uber carebear BC still playing?
I'm still here u big pufter! stop forum whoring and get some work done for once! 
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:17:00 -
[176]
Originally by: dantes inferno well who ever wins or looses this is a whole lot of fun for all partys...but one quick point if the northen alliances were beating the 5...why hire the MC? wouldnt it be cheaper and easier for them to continue to do so without external help? now even if by a huge god like miracle they win..they wont get any prestige out of it cause people will say it was the MC participation which swung it around.
Then we can charge more?!
/boggles! 
Seriously, this whole thing is barely a week old. While we may be a factor in the ultimate end of this, I think it's a little early to predict how well either side is really doing. Both are deeply committed at this point and have vast reserves to draw upon before the pressure really starts to be felt.
This isn't your typical "war". While this war may not have some of the intense 'passion' of the Great Northern War, this is still an all out brawl for dominance / survival the likes and size of which hasn't been seen in EVE ever. Even the Great Northern War was fought mainly in 0.0. This one is everywhere. It's Total War (which is also a pretty cool game, btw!).
God, I'm bored at work today. I need to get home and see if I need to start a new Isogen buy order... 
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A Tribute to 4S Corp |

Jherek Cornelian
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:18:00 -
[177]
Originally by: dantes inferno well who ever wins or looses this is a whole lot of fun for all partys...but one quick point if the northen alliances were beating the 5...why hire the MC? wouldnt it be cheaper and easier for them to continue to do so without external help? now even if by a huge god like miracle they win..they wont get any prestige out of it cause people will say it was the MC participation which swung it around.
Point 1) hiring MC stops them being hired against you.
Point 2) we will win, GODS are already on our side 
Point 3) people will say... oh noes save us from the forum doubters 
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:18:00 -
[178]
Originally by: anister
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle and we are still winning.
*anister spits coffee over his keyboard.
Incase you missed the rest of this thread, hiring mercs is not a sign of being the strong side.
Ever heard of the Hessians?
~Captain Cutie, HFS Event Horizon
Biomass fears me.
Sovereignty 2.0 |

Endeva
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:23:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I remember when this war started between 5 and FE, NBSI and PE, and we all heard BoB and others saying we didnt have a chanse, that 5 would come with 250 BS and easily gank us, camp our HQ, and we would disband within a week or so. Well, that certainly didnt happen.
Now, SA, -V-, RISK and KIA is helping 5, and we are still winning. I guess a few alliances underestimated us badly. God, I love this war 
muahahahhahahha funny boy.funniest sentence ever i see in 2005 ", and we are still winning" your award has been sent.see your wallet.
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:26:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi Ever heard of the Hessians?
Yes.

Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:26:00 -
[181]
LMAO @ all this win/lose talk....smack me a river...
Like Sel says - this thing is just beginning. Winning or losing goes way beyond killboard stats this time.
Besides, the relative shortcomings of all the killboards involved (getting losses out of the FE board is a tad difficult, for example) in this ruckus will make accurate estimates of kills/losses impossible. The winners will be the ones left standing once it's all over, and that's the only yardstick that will matter.
Gotta love that "miracle" comment coming out of SA after last night, however...  ____________________________________________
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:27:00 -
[182]
Things seem to get more and more interesting.
23? # Missile Tool # ex: P-TMC : USAC |

danneh
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:31:00 -
[183]
Edited by: danneh on 28/10/2005 12:33:59 Good Luck.
Are Battle Angels now full members of the -MC-?.
Thanks.
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Mong0
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:39:00 -
[184]
zzazzt get to work 
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.28 12:52:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I remember when this war started between 5 and FE, NBSI and PE, and we all heard BoB and others saying we didnt have a chanse, that 5 would come with 250 BS and easily gank us, camp our HQ, and we would disband within a week or so. Well, that certainly didnt happen.
Now, SA, -V-, RISK and KIA is helping 5, and we are still winning. I guess a few alliances underestimated us badly. God, I love this war 
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Iraqi information minister 4tw!
there are no five in the north!
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.10.28 13:07:00 -
[186]
Originally by: dantes inferno now even if by a huge god like miracle they win..they wont get any prestige out of it cause people will say it was the MC participation which swung it around.
First: So what? Our goal is to win this war and get .5. back to reasonable size while hoping they can eat their own forum smack at some point. Who is involved and who did it is none of our concern. All we want is to play the game without the .5. smacktards in our space all the time. If MC is the tool to get the job done, then so be it.
Second: If we were to lose this war, which is obviously one of two possible outcomes, it has *certainly* nothing to do with Stain Alliance. As Zzazzt said; interesting choice of words after an evening where you lost a total of 47 (count em, 47) ships versus killing one Raptor and a Taranis. Oh should I also mention that Ferox that got Concordokken'd because you have some lame alt with an equal alliance/corp ticker locker out pilots all the time?
Third: Watch what you say. Aside from one tool claiming we're "winning" this war which cannot possibly be determined yet, all offical F-E/PA/NBSI statements have calculated the fact that we might actually lose. I think -V- realizes this as well. Might be time for SA and .5. to start rethinking their ideas as it's pretty obvious now they can't just walk over the North as they intended to do.
And finally: Paragraphs and capitals are your friend.
My post is my personal opinion and not that of Millennium or the Forsaken Empire.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.10.28 13:18:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Originally by: dantes inferno now even if by a huge god like miracle they win..they wont get any prestige out of it cause people will say it was the MC participation which swung it around.
First: So what? Our goal is to win this war and get .5. back to reasonable size while hoping they can eat their own forum smack at some point. Who is involved and who did it is none of our concern. All we want is to play the game without the .5. smacktards in our space all the time. If MC is the tool to get the job done, then so be it.
Second: If we were to lose this war, which is obviously one of two possible outcomes, it has *certainly* nothing to do with Stain Alliance. As Zzazzt said; interesting choice of words after an evening where you lost a total of 47 (count em, 47) ships versus killing one Raptor and a Taranis. Oh should I also mention that Ferox that got Concordokken'd because you have some lame alt with an equal alliance/corp ticker locker out pilots all the time?
Third: Watch what you say. Aside from one tool claiming we're "winning" this war which cannot possibly be determined yet, all offical F-E/PA/NBSI statements have calculated the fact that we might actually lose. I think -V- realizes this as well. Might be time for SA and .5. to start rethinking their ideas as it's pretty obvious now they can't just walk over the North as they intended to do.
And finally: Paragraphs and capitals are your friend.
My post is my personal opinion and not that of Millennium or the Forsaken Empire.
We walk over the northern alliances with great ease. And hiring the MC will not keep us out of your space. At best they kill all of us in empire. At worst, they'll have no impact on us at all. But in the end the outcome of it won't matter for us. It merely fuels our desire to end you lot.
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.10.28 13:32:00 -
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Edited by: Trooper B99 on 28/10/2005 13:33:53
No one, the MC included has any idea what influence, if any, we will have in the conflict we have been bought into. We shall all however doubtless find out over the next wee while. Our concern is really only that of our client and what that client wants, we attempt to do.
I suggest everyone on all sides just chill, enjoy the fights and join me in harassing Seleene, Eyeshadow, Loxyrider and every other vid maker until they bring out vids detailing the biggest Empire space conflict this game has ever seen. 
Huge war fleets clashing in the very heart of the empires. The hazy glow of the expanding balls of plasma that were combat ships vies with the light from the stars themselves. The very fabric of space rent by the clash and clamour of guns, the intoxicating rumble of missiles and thrum of engines.
Woot!
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.28 13:36:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Trooper B99 I suggest everyone on all sides just chill, enjoy the fights and join me in harassing Seleene, Eyeshadow, Loxyrider and every other vid maker until they bring out vids detailing the biggest Empire space conflict this game has ever seen. 
Thol said he'd pay me 50 mil to let him get a Trooper corpse.  -
A Tribute to 4S Corp |

Stuart Ward
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Posted - 2005.10.28 13:38:00 -
[190]
All i'm going to say is have fun everyone
The thing that disappoints me most is not the smack, but CCP's complete lack of response to this major event.
This is the most bloodthirsty time in Eve's history, with what must be every major PVP corp involeved in an empire war.
What are the Headlines ?
Cat fight at a beauty contest, and a new record on how many carebear macrominers are logged on at any one time !!!
Come on CCP make this a major event please
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.10.28 13:41:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 28/10/2005 13:44:51 Losses so far inflicted upon the PA, about 340 mill.
So KIA are in this battle for a while.
This is my personal opinoin, and most people know KIA have a very good relationship with FE and with NBSI for that matter.
If things had continued along the same path, the FE/NBSI/PA war based alliance, had 0 chance of coming out the other end, the fun factor would of drained over time, and the forces against them, were simply too great. F-E and NBSI fight like tigers, but resource is resource, and they were simply outmanned and outgunned, time would of taken its toll.
The introduction of MC against the 5, leaves FE/NBSI the ability to concentrate their forces on V/RISK and KIA for as long as we are in the conflict, they have given themselves breathing space and a chance, time will be the only factor in seeing who emerges the "winner".
No one should underestimate the influence a pure PvP corp can have on the outcome of any conflict. MC will effect the balance of this warfare, but we shall have to wait and see if they will effect it enough tosee the previously destined result (imo) reversed.
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.28 13:48:00 -
[192]
Originally by: KIAEddZ ...pure PvP corp...
Ask Seleene how much he'll do a freighter for, Eddz 
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.10.28 13:54:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Seleene Thol said he'd pay me 50 mil to let him get a Trooper corpse. 
This could be very good or very bad. Very good as it's a new untapped market for my biomass and bad in that Sel has a penchant for killing his own corp members. Thol . . . . How much for a Seleene corpse? 
Quote: Ask Seleene how much he'll do a freighter for, Eddz
Which freighter? 
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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FowlPlayChiken
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Posted - 2005.10.28 13:57:00 -
[194]
7 pages and still no forum mod block?
YAY!
Chaos, confusion, and discord reign. The way of the BAWK shall sweep the universe and lap it in universal idiocraticy. Prosecutors will be transgressicuted. FNORD!
BAWK!
this one time, at band camp...in before the thread lock:)
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.10.28 13:58:00 -
[195]
I must say I love these threds. Unfourtunatly we've not been forced into a silence pact as we were with the Geminate contract. This means that we've got people dispelling conspiracy theories left and right, and means less fun forum reading.
Regardless, I do look forward to this conflict. My experience of ATUK was pleseant from back before they split from CA as well as when they suddenly came down and decided to take the Cache stations a week before CA fell. It was a bit surprising to see all those Apocs suddenly come in and sit down next to the stations, but the time spent on ATUK TS and in their gangs were pleasant and fun. I can only say that I consider ATUK the most competent enemy I've to fight in my time as mercenary. I certainly hope you don't let me down.
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: KIAEddZ ...pure PvP corp...
Ask Seleene how much he'll do a freighter for, Eddz 
Quoted for truth. :p
wheat barley kill anything? are you oats of your mind? I corn belive you just said that, rice I'm off to bed |

Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.10.28 14:29:00 -
[196]
Edited by: Mangus Thermopyle on 28/10/2005 14:30:06
Originally by: KIAEddZ If things had continued along the same path, the FE/NBSI/PA war based alliance, had 0 chance of coming out the other end, the fun factor would of drained over time, and the forces against them, were simply too great. F-E and NBSI fight like tigers, but resource is resource, and they were simply outmanned and outgunned, time would of taken its toll.
I wonder if its possible to be more wrong. So far, we have outnumbered our enemies more often than not, and I can assure you we have plenty of resources.
And with the 100+ kills yesterday, its not our resources that are being drained 
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.28 14:33:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle Edited by: Mangus Thermopyle on 28/10/2005 14:30:06
Originally by: KIAEddZ If things had continued along the same path, the FE/NBSI/PA war based alliance, had 0 chance of coming out the other end, the fun factor would of drained over time, and the forces against them, were simply too great. F-E and NBSI fight like tigers, but resource is resource, and they were simply outmanned and outgunned, time would of taken its toll.
I wonder if its possible to be more wrong. So far, we have outnumbered our enemies more often than not, and I can assure you we have plenty of resources.
And with the 100+ kills yesterday, its not our resources that are being drained 
I'm starting to wonder what game you are playing
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Kirin
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Posted - 2005.10.28 14:36:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Stuart Ward All i'm going to say is have fun everyone
The thing that disappoints me most is not the smack, but CCP's complete lack of response to this major event.
This is the most bloodthirsty time in Eve's history, with what must be every major PVP corp involeved in an empire war.
What are the Headlines ?
Cat fight at a beauty contest, and a new record on how many carebear macrominers are logged on at any one time !!!
Come on CCP make this a major event please
Yea I even wrote up a partial article for it and posted in this thread but no CCP love for us it seems.
Remember the toes you step on today are still connected to the arse you may have to kiss tomorrow.
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Capt Ketamine
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Posted - 2005.10.28 14:44:00 -
[199]
OK everyone, enough smack. The weekend is now here. Lets sit back and enjoy it. I think everyone has had a good pop at each other and we are now just repeating ourselves, a hairs breath from quoting killboards.
Have fun ALL of you! Good luck! Enjoy your clones!
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made alot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move" Douglas Adams |

Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.28 14:45:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: KIAEddZ ...pure PvP corp...
Ask Seleene how much he'll do a freighter for, Eddz 
Bah. Don't you have a couple dozen POS's to refuel, Diana?  -
A Tribute to 4S Corp |

j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.10.28 14:53:00 -
[201]
"Bah. Don't you have a couple dozen POS's to refuel, Diana? "
Couple dozen? That'd barely cover one of the systems, if at all... >.<;
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Zarthanon
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Posted - 2005.10.28 15:37:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Seleene OK, STOP. The hijack has gone on long enough. TBH, I'm amazed it lasted this long. Before anyone else gets too emotionally involved with this thread, let me make it clear:
BoB has not war decced the MC.
I already said that on the top of page 3 FFS... although my memory evidently was wrong, I clearly said it. I saw BL talking about how it was fake in alliance chat while I was on my BoB alt.
Originally by: ParMizaN i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk
Originally by: Buddrow TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2005.10.28 15:38:00 -
[203]
Originally by: danneh Edited by: danneh on 28/10/2005 12:33:59 Good Luck.
Are Battle Angels now full members of the -MC-?.
Thanks.
No.
Battle Angels were hired for the same purpose, and due to the professional respect and friendship between our two outfits, the decision was taken that the best course of action would be to join the IGA for the duration of the contract - decreasing war fees.
The Firing Range |

dantes inferno
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Posted - 2005.10.28 16:16:00 -
[204]
Quote: First: So what? Our goal is to win this war and get .5. back to reasonable size while hoping they can eat their own forum smack at some point. Who is involved and who did it is none of our concern. All we want is to play the game without the .5. smacktards in our space all the time. If MC is the tool to get the job done, then so be it.
well even if the 5 dissolve you honestly think the corps will disolve? they will still be in ur space as will dozens of other enteties
Quote: Second: If we were to lose this war, which is obviously one of two possible outcomes, it has *certainly* nothing to do with Stain Alliance. As Zzazzt said; interesting choice of words after an evening where you lost a total of 47 (count em, 47) ships versus killing one Raptor and a Taranis. Oh should I also mention that Ferox that got Concordokken'd because you have some lame alt with an equal alliance/corp ticker locker out pilots all the time?
seems some one is getting a bit touchy i wont go into this argument as it solves nothing...but im glad to see your so happy to see SA in this fight.
Quote: Third: Watch what you say. Aside from one tool claiming we're "winning" this war which cannot possibly be determined yet, all offical F-E/PA/NBSI statements have calculated the fact that we might actually lose. I think -V- realizes this as well. Might be time for SA and .5. to start rethinking their ideas as it's pretty obvious now they can't just walk over the North as they intended to do.
its a game...im having fun, the way i post and speak reflect this..dont take things so much to heart.
Quote: And finally: Paragraphs and capitals are your friend.
Grammer ****s 4tw _____
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gsdfrer
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Posted - 2005.10.28 17:00:00 -
[205]
Edited by: gsdfrer on 28/10/2005 17:01:46 Its really easy to fix this.
The 3 alliances at war with the 5 are not very good. And the 5 can take them on alone in empire (as has been happening so far). The MC on the other hand are rather good at the empire war. To make the MC work harder. The 5 should just head back to Curse where SA/V/5 can just blob out any MC force that trys to form.. Even if that force includes some F-E or PA
MC were never very good at taking the fight into 0.0 Not nearly as effective as they are in empire.
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Intak Atak
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Posted - 2005.10.28 17:09:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Zarthanon
I already said that on the top of page 3 FFS.
Most people here ignore you.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.10.28 17:18:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Dash Ripcock
Originally by: danneh Edited by: danneh on 28/10/2005 12:33:59 Good Luck.
Are Battle Angels now full members of the -MC-?.
Thanks.
No.
Battle Angels were hired for the same purpose, and due to the professional respect and friendship between our two outfits, the decision was taken that the best course of action would be to join the IGA for the duration of the contract - decreasing war fees.
WTF? your saying I have to compete for kill with you guys again? first it was the SA-SE war, now this....
joking as useual though. glad to see your joining the party
need a sig? Gallery Contact me for more info |

Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.10.28 17:20:00 -
[208]
Originally by: gsdfrer MC were never very good at taking the fight into 0.0 Not nearly as effective as they are in empire.
Well mr Alt, considering the 0.0 pedigree of NSN and TC to start with, let alone the historys of the individual characters and players in FRICK and BDCI, your shot across our bows has sadly holed your own boat. I'll admit of late we've spent far more time in empire, but well, thats generally where our clients want us and where thus, our targets are.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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gsdfrer
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Posted - 2005.10.28 17:30:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Trooper B99
Originally by: gsdfrer MC were never very good at taking the fight into 0.0 Not nearly as effective as they are in empire.
Well mr Alt, considering the 0.0 pedigree of NSN and TC to start with, let alone the historys of the individual characters and players in FRICK and BDCI, your shot across our bows has sadly holed your own boat. I'll admit of late we've spent far more time in empire, but well, thats generally where our clients want us and where thus, our targets are.
It is my opinion, your stating otherwise will not change it. Your last foray into 0.0 ended with you getting bored and leaving. During MC fights against IRON/PA up North, MC would get beat down by G and IRON whenever you moved beyond EC-P8R. In empire the story is quite different.
Now, you seem to have been hurt by what I said, when it wasn't meant to be smack.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.28 17:42:00 -
[210]
Trooper, if you or anyone else gives this guy another byte of bandwidth, I'm going to forget to turn my guns off again.  -
A Tribute to 4S Corp |

Dr MOo
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Posted - 2005.10.28 17:44:00 -
[211]
Originally by: gsdfrer Edited by: gsdfrer on 28/10/2005 17:01:46 Its really easy to fix this.
The 3 alliances at war with the 5 are not very good. And the 5 can take them on alone in empire (as has been happening so far). The MC on the other hand are rather good at the empire war. To make the MC work harder. The 5 should just head back to Curse where SA/V/5 can just blob out any MC force that trys to form.. Even if that force includes some F-E or PA
MC were never very good at taking the fight into 0.0 Not nearly as effective as they are in empire.
Well PA arent really in empire due to RISK anyway are they?
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gsdfrer
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Posted - 2005.10.28 17:47:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Seleene Trooper, if you or anyone else gives this guy another byte of bandwidth, I'm going to forget to turn my guns off again. 
Good call Seleene. My post was meant more towards the 5. Its pointless fighting ghost fleets in empire. They need to fight where they are strong and not where you guys are at a benefit. Hence 0.0
Yeah PA are kind of pre-occupied at the moment.
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.10.28 17:57:00 -
[213]
Originally by: gsdfrer The 5 should just head back to Curse where SA/V/5 can just blob out any MC force that trys to form..
If we head to 0.0 during the contract it wont be to curse . One question for the MC would be would u follow us? I think in the past contracts have been strictly empire or 0.0 based rather then everywhere. A move into northen 0.0 has always been part of this war this may just accelerate that .
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NoNameNewbie
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Posted - 2005.10.28 17:57:00 -
[214]
hi, i dont care about the mass blobbage BUT !
since u guys got so many ****loads of ppl arround may i ask for some fleetbattle videos instead of the typical GANK garbage ?
kthnxbye
PS: the guys that went berserk because of the alt was lollerskates :S
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Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2005.10.28 18:17:00 -
[215]
Originally by: gsdfrer Your last foray into 0.0 ended with you getting bored and leaving.
That, or, maybe the client stopped paying them to be there, so they left?
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KingAc
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Posted - 2005.10.28 18:25:00 -
[216]
Brings out beer and Kladdkaka. The fun is about to start....
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Crissy
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Posted - 2005.10.28 18:28:00 -
[217]
Originally by: ohalland 2 if The Five declares it mutual it seems to me that'd put MC outta business 
Not a chance unless MC runs out of money to fund their operations and they have overcome what would seemed impossible to the rest of eve once before with the proper tactics when they were fighitng FoE The 5 and MC going at it should be very intresting indeed.
Good Luck to both sides  Crissy
Solider of "Freedom-Technologies"
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.10.28 18:28:00 -
[218]
Originally by: LoxyRider
Originally by: gsdfrer The 5 should just head back to Curse where SA/V/5 can just blob out any MC force that trys to form..
If we head to 0.0 during the contract it wont be to curse . One question for the MC would be would u follow us? I think in the past contracts have been strictly empire or 0.0 based rather then everywhere. A move into northen 0.0 has always been part of this war this may just accelerate that .
Where are you gonna dock?
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Richard Masterson
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Posted - 2005.10.28 18:49:00 -
[219]
After all this is over, everyone is invited over to my house for a beer.
-Rich
P.S. BYOB.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.10.28 18:52:00 -
[220]
Can we just declare Magnus the winner of Eve so the rest of us can sing songs and hug trees?
Works for me. ______________________________________________
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |

Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.10.28 18:54:00 -
[221]
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Originally by: LoxyRider
Originally by: gsdfrer The 5 should just head back to Curse where SA/V/5 can just blob out any MC force that trys to form..
If we head to 0.0 during the contract it wont be to curse . One question for the MC would be would u follow us? I think in the past contracts have been strictly empire or 0.0 based rather then everywhere. A move into northen 0.0 has always been part of this war this may just accelerate that .
Where are you gonna dock?
No no no, were are YOU going to dock  ---------------
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belzebub1
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Posted - 2005.10.28 19:00:00 -
[222]
/Emote puts hand in air and meekly asks " Can some one make sure they are running fraps all the time for these battles, The community will definatley love to see them   
![]() Dont forget to visit Magma Index at the below Link. http://www.magmaindex.uni.cc/ |

Hampstah
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Posted - 2005.10.28 19:26:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Avon Can we just declare Magnus the winner of Eve so the rest of us can sing songs and hug trees?
Works for me.
Seconded, let's celebrate his victory at Richard's house. -----
Beware Rodentz with Gunz
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Pehova Mindtriq
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Posted - 2005.10.28 20:39:00 -
[224]
Originally by: anister
Incase you missed the rest of this thread, hiring mercs is not a sign of being the strong side.
It can be a good tactical move from the stronger side in a conflict. Just look at FOE vs G & PA where KIA was hired to take on FOE in empire. G & PA was stronger in that conflict.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.10.28 20:48:00 -
[225]
Edited by: DrunkenOne on 28/10/2005 20:53:29
Originally by: Balazs Simon when we scrambled a Geddon with 4 points and it jumped out
Scrambling is supposed to stop you from jumping?
   
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I wonder if its possible to be more wrong. So far, we have outnumbered our enemies more often than not, and I can assure you we have plenty of resources.
And with the 100+ kills yesterday, its not our resources that are being drained 
OMG U SHOULDNT LOSE MODULES WHEN U DIE
Its just too easy... Cosmic Fusion KB
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2005.10.28 20:52:00 -
[226]
I find all of this to be quite funny.
4 Alliances war-dec the five, they accept as mutual. One or more of these alliances pull in MC.
So it's now 5 vs. "The Five" 
I think that says a lot for 5's fighting ability. -- Intergalactic Teeth Pullers "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein |

FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.10.28 20:57:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Jaabaa Prime I find all of this to be quite funny.
4 Alliances war-dec the five, they accept as mutual. One or more of these alliances pull in MC.
So it's now 5 vs. "The Five" 
I think that says a lot for 5's fighting ability.
no its the north vs the south minus fix/bob
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.10.28 20:57:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Jaabaa Prime I find all of this to be quite funny.
4 Alliances war-dec the five, they accept as mutual. One or more of these alliances pull in MC.
So it's now 5 vs. "The Five" 
I think that says a lot for 5's fighting ability.
Or their wallets. 
~Captain Cutie, HFS Event Horizon
Biomass fears me.
Sovereignty 2.0 |

Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2005.10.28 21:01:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi Or their wallets. 
I don't think that 5 has cash flow problems, or needed "Merc assistance".
But it looks like great fun anyway. -- Intergalactic Teeth Pullers "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein |

IvanaGoodman
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Posted - 2005.10.28 21:11:00 -
[230]
I would like to put an end to all of the rumours.
I had a whip round at State War Academy and it is us who hired MC to fight [5]
Our plans for domination are coming to fruition.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.... *cackle*
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Bazman
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Posted - 2005.10.28 21:17:00 -
[231]
I'm scared, someone hold meh
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Drakos
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Posted - 2005.10.28 21:18:00 -
[232]
ther are no rumours we all know who hired MC.
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Evil Edna
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Posted - 2005.10.28 21:44:00 -
[233]
we do?
care to elaborate?
Killboard.co.uk |

Kate Moss
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Posted - 2005.10.28 22:03:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Evil Edna we do?
care to elaborate?
Read a few pages back where you're alliance admitted it.
It's ok, just admit you needed help.
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Evil Edna
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Posted - 2005.10.28 22:05:00 -
[235]
9 pages, i dont care that much 
Killboard.co.uk |

Drakos
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Posted - 2005.10.29 18:39:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Evil Edna we do?
care to elaborate?
ill give you a clue. the alliance tag starts with F and ends with E
:P
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.10.29 19:58:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Jaabaa Prime I find all of this to be quite funny.
4 Alliances war-dec the five, they accept as mutual. One or more of these alliances pull in MC.
So it's now 5 vs. "The Five" 
I think that says a lot for 5's fighting ability.
I take it you didn't know about V and the Stain Alliance declaring on NBSI, PA and F-E then. You'll also notice that the V wardec has not been made mutual, as they have no ******* business in this war (although technically neither do SA).
If it were just NBSI, PA and F-E vs [5] and the north called in the mercs to attack [5] then you would have a point. However, this was not the case, so you don't.
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Where are you gonna dock?
No no no, were are YOU going to dock 
"Hey, we've abandoned all notions of claiming space, capturing stations and running POS's to keep them alive. Now lets go kick some northern arse, invade their space, take over their stations. Better make sure we put up some POS's too so they can't reclaim them. Oh wait..."
Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
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King Dave
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Posted - 2005.10.29 20:49:00 -
[238]
Originally by: ohalland 2 if The Five declares it mutual it seems to me that'd put MC outta business 
hi masterob1   
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.10.29 20:51:00 -
[239]
Take me out of your Sig EV boy! 
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.10.29 20:54:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Kate Moss
Originally by: Evil Edna we do?
care to elaborate?
Read a few pages back where you're alliance admitted it.
It's ok, just admit you needed help.
dont you love the sheer arrogance on these boards  _________________
You can suck my battleship.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.10.29 20:59:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Chowdown Take me out of your Sig EV boy! 
or you'll what, war dec me? 
Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.10.29 21:06:00 -
[242]
lookin at this thread i wish i could play EvE again :(
im in love with Eddz's posts tbh , he finally saw th elight  _________________
You can suck my battleship.
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Kate Moss
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Posted - 2005.10.29 21:12:00 -
[243]
Originally by: Sarmaul
I take it you didn't know about V and the Stain Alliance declaring on NBSI, PA and F-E then. You'll also notice that the V wardec has not been made mutual, as they have no ******* business in this war (although technically neither do SA).
Translation: we need 4 allianes to hope to beat one and we also had to hire a 5th.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.10.29 21:18:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Kate Moss
Originally by: Sarmaul
I take it you didn't know about V and the Stain Alliance declaring on NBSI, PA and F-E then. You'll also notice that the V wardec has not been made mutual, as they have no ******* business in this war (although technically neither do SA).
Translation: we need 4 allianes to hope to beat one and we also had to hire a 5th.
your translator is broken
Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
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Kate Moss
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Posted - 2005.10.29 21:21:00 -
[245]
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Kate Moss
Originally by: Sarmaul
I take it you didn't know about V and the Stain Alliance declaring on NBSI, PA and F-E then. You'll also notice that the V wardec has not been made mutual, as they have no ******* business in this war (although technically neither do SA).
Translation: we need 4 allianes to hope to beat one and we also had to hire a 5th.
your translator is broken
Ok, then explain why you complain if other alliances war dec you when you had to recruit 4 yourself. Is this really that difficult of a concept?
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.10.29 21:24:00 -
[246]
i realy starting to believe this game is made purely for women ...
every single move , warp , jump has to be discussed and argued , this surely has to be a 200 % game tended for women . _________________
You can suck my battleship.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.10.29 21:34:00 -
[247]
Edited by: Chowdown on 29/10/2005 21:34:50
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Chowdown Take me out of your Sig EV boy! 
or you'll what, war dec me? 
Ohh hell no can we discuss surrender 
Honestly if I get another afk autopilot ship loss posted, I might care 
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.10.29 21:51:00 -
[248]
Originally by: Chowdown
Honestly if I get another afk autopilot ship loss posted, I might care 
that wasn't worth the edit 
Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
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DjDangle
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Posted - 2005.10.30 01:24:00 -
[249]
Edited by: DjDangle on 30/10/2005 01:26:47
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Jaabaa Prime I find all of this to be quite funny.
4 Alliances war-dec the five, they accept as mutual. One or more of these alliances pull in MC.
So it's now 5 vs. "The Five" 
I think that says a lot for 5's fighting ability.
I take it you didn't know about V and the Stain Alliance declaring on NBSI, PA and F-E then. You'll also notice that the V wardec has not been made mutual, as they have no ******* business in this war (although technically neither do SA).
If it were just NBSI, PA and F-E vs [5] and the north called in the mercs to attack [5] then you would have a point. However, this was not the case, so you don't.
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Where are you gonna dock?
No no no, were are YOU going to dock 
"Hey, we've abandoned all notions of claiming space, capturing stations and running POS's to keep them alive. Now lets go kick some northern arse, invade their space, take over their stations. Better make sure we put up some POS's too so they can't reclaim them. Oh wait..."
Our business was that we were attacked bu NBSi. When we attacked NBSI you were kinda in the way. Simple really. :) Anyway, it's all fun. So chill out. ------------
http://www.itfb.org/banner.jpg
"On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.10.30 01:31:00 -
[250]
heh STAN
FACTA NON VERBA ALTS FTL |

unforg1ven
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Posted - 2005.10.30 02:24:00 -
[251]
This War is the Best thing that happend to EVE , simple ... we are training n00bs fast, skilling people faster, having fun much, targets everywhere, everyone enjoys it, the only ones that are sad about war are the carebears, war is all that EVE is ... simple....
EMPIRE=0.0 EVE=FUN=WAR thus EVE=WAR we`re all enjoing it ... hf all involved
Its the GODS way . . . The Good Way.
ROMANIANS 4TW! |

Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.10.30 09:49:00 -
[252]
Originally by: The Clash i realy starting to believe this game is made purely for women ...
every single move , warp , jump has to be discussed and argued , this surely has to be a 200 % game tended for women .
You should meet Zajo. She's a lot more efficient than you seem to be, and complains a lot less it appears.
Gods, I hate sexistic dim-wits!
Don't fight in Jita. That system is bugged to hell and back. The most unusual things can happen there. |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2005.10.30 11:08:00 -
[253]
Originally by: Ithildin Gods, I hate sexistic dim-wits!
Nah, you just wanna get laid and hope that some eve chick will read this and realise how nice of a guy you are. It's ok, we understand 
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Reeasor
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Posted - 2005.10.30 11:40:00 -
[254]
to all these who are thinkin we needed backup - oh well ur wrong we simply prefer having mc on our side and im sure if we didnt hire em .5. would do so.
anyway how can you say we needed backup when i still do shoping and selling in jita just need to be carefull (no more autopilot) thats all.
so go back to your camping at 4-4 and stop posting such stupid ideas 
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.10.30 12:43:00 -
[255]
Originally by: DjDangle
Our business was that we were attacked bu NBSi. When we attacked NBSI you were kinda in the way. Simple really. :) Anyway, it's all fun. So chill out.
I'll let you off then 
Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.10.30 13:18:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Jaabaa Prime I find all of this to be quite funny.
4 Alliances war-dec the five, they accept as mutual. One or more of these alliances pull in MC.
So it's now 5 vs. "The Five" 
I think that says a lot for 5's fighting ability.
The south alliance: - Stain Alliance: 2842 members - Five: 1078 members - Veritas Immortalis: 749 members Total: 4669 (RISK and KIA not included)
The north alliances: - Forsaken Empire: 2034 members - Phoenix Alliance: 1218 members - NBSI: 523 members Total: 3775
Despite this, we are doing fine so far, and will certainly do even better with the help of MC.
Get your facts right before posting nonsense next time 
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.10.30 13:40:00 -
[257]
mangus you have forgotten SE in your calculation and last but not least to mention that you ALL declared on 5 simultaniously in agreement with each other, while V and SA joined the fun "over time" and had their own issues with your "side" before.
They didnt need an invite.
I doubt ull find anyone of us beeing angry about it tho ;) more tgts = more fights = more fun = sub worth it.
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.10.30 13:42:00 -
[258]
Let's also not forget to mention you lads lost nearly 200 members since the start of the war, we lost 8.
Thx.
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Naphtalia
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Posted - 2005.10.30 13:52:00 -
[259]
Oh and next step will be:
-V- dec SA ---> and things will get interesting.. NAP with enemies for the lose especially if enemy is waging war on your friends (SE friends of -V-)
lets spice things up to the next level and get this NvS out of the way and make some neat roundrobinwardecs
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.10.30 14:03:00 -
[260]
Originally by: Ithildin
Originally by: The Clash i realy starting to believe this game is made purely for women ...
every single move , warp , jump has to be discussed and argued , this surely has to be a 200 % game tended for women .
You should meet Zajo. She's a lot more efficient than you seem to be, and complains a lot less it appears.
Gods, I hate sexistic dim-wits!
people are way to serious it seems and i know Zajo . _________________
You can suck my battleship.
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Steve Buscemi
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Posted - 2005.10.30 14:33:00 -
[261]
Hello Mom!
[MC] Fanboy |

Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.10.30 14:57:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Kcel Chim mangus you have forgotten SE in your calculation ...
Yea, I forgot about SE, and left out RISK and KIA. But those are relative small numbers, the point I made was that we are not the one who outnumbers the enemies, its the opposite.
Dont make 5 into some sort of underdog, they wardecced us, they took on more they could handle and got help, and they (as in 5, V and SA) outnumber us.
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.10.30 15:02:00 -
[263]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle Dont make 5 into some sort of underdog, they wardecced us, they took on more they could handle and got help, and they (as in 5, V and SA) outnumber us.

Quote: The Forsaken Empire has declared war on The Five. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
Quote: The Phoenix Alliance has declared war on The Five. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
Quote: The NBSI Alliance has declared war on The Five. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
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Tadis
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Posted - 2005.10.30 15:02:00 -
[264]
Originally by: Steve Buscemi Hello Mom!
Frigs with Frickin sensor boosters lol
Mini fish in the water ^^
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.10.30 15:23:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle Dont make 5 into some sort of underdog, they wardecced us, they took on more they could handle and got help, and they (as in 5, V and SA) outnumber us.

Yea, I saw my mistake, sorry about that. I did edit my post before you pointed it out though (check the times).
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.30 15:26:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle Dont make 5 into some sort of underdog, they wardecced us, they took on more they could handle and got help, and they (as in 5, V and SA) outnumber us.

Yea, I saw my mistake, sorry about that. I did edit my post before you pointed it out though (check the times).
just stop now before you make even a bigger fool of yourself.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.10.30 15:47:00 -
[267]
Would people mind to smacktalk MC instead of someone else?
'tis the MC declaration thred in the smack-forum 
P.S. Luc Boye, I don't hold to illusions. I play the game to shoot ships down, not hook up with girls 
Don't fight in Jita. That system is bugged to hell and back. The most unusual things can happen there. |

Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.10.30 15:51:00 -
[268]
Originally by: Hast
just stop now before you make even a bigger fool of yourself.
Yea, I am so sorry for pointing out that you guys outnumber us with about 1000 members.
Btw, will you guys stay docked much longer? Its getting boring to fight you 
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super4lt
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Posted - 2005.10.30 15:59:00 -
[269]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
Yea, I saw my mistake, sorry about that. I did edit my post before you pointed it out though (check the times).
But but but wouldnt that make him a psychic that has the abilaty to predict the future????
super4lt thinks thats some scary ****
Super4lt is here to let yall know what time it is
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BlackRain
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Posted - 2005.10.30 16:03:00 -
[270]
Originally by: Ithildin You should meet Zajo. She's a lot more efficient than you seem to be, and complains a lot less it appears.
Gods, I hate sexistic dim-wits!
You seriously trying to school Clash about Zajo - and women in general? The whole "women & Clash" issue is a big, fat and endless joke itself, but about the main point of your message ->
A clue for you: KIA Corp.
And in case Zajo's actually reading this: Still luv you honey. Hugs'n'kisses. -------------------
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.10.30 16:16:00 -
[271]
Originally by: Ithildin Would people mind to smacktalk MC instead of someone else?
'tis the MC declaration thred in the smack-forum 
P.S. Luc Boye, I don't hold to illusions. I play the game to shoot ships down, not hook up with girls 
omg the MC suck so much, they haven't had like a single kill in this entire war, all that NPCing has turned them into carebears!!!11one!1eleven

Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.10.30 16:18:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Ithildin Would people mind to smacktalk MC instead of someone else?
'tis the MC declaration thred in the smack-forum 
P.S. Luc Boye, I don't hold to illusions. I play the game to shoot ships down, not hook up with girls 
No smack from me. Welcome to the fight. I hope you have as much fun as I have 
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.10.30 16:23:00 -
[273]
BlackRain, don't really care who or what, there's enough lamers (who really mean what they say when claiming anything weak or insignificant is female-related) in the gaming community that I just felt like venting a bit.
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Ithildin Would people mind to smacktalk MC instead of someone else?
'tis the MC declaration thred in the smack-forum 
P.S. Luc Boye, I don't hold to illusions. I play the game to shoot ships down, not hook up with girls 
omg the MC suck so much, they haven't had like a single kill in this entire war, all that NPCing has turned them into carebears!!!11one!1eleven

Thank you, now I feel at home again. 
And I don't NPC, dammit! I demand respect for my deep core miners!
Don't fight in Jita. That system is bugged to hell and back. The most unusual things can happen there. |

Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.30 17:08:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Tadis
Originally by: Steve Buscemi Hello Mom!
Frigs with Frickin sensor boosters lol
Mini fish in the water ^^
BWUHAHAHA!!!
/emote runs to get Eyeshadow.    -
A Tribute to 4S Corp |

Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.10.30 17:12:00 -
[275]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
Btw, will you guys stay docked much longer? Its getting boring to fight you 
Your so cool 
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.10.30 17:23:00 -
[276]
I wish I was cool enough to join BDCI. 
I have BDCI video watching V!
And I heard the noise of thunder. And I looked and behold: a pale horse. And his name, that sat on him, was Death. And Hell followed with him |

Lek'karion
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Posted - 2005.10.30 21:31:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Steve Buscemi Hello Mom!
You know you've reached the top when you have your own fanboys :) ....................................... FREEDING FRENZY ______)\______)\_____/(_______ ______)\______\o/____/(_______
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.10.31 06:31:00 -
[278]
Originally by: Seleene ... I'm safespotting in Jita and playing WoW for a month. 
Yes, yes come to the dark side. I'm waiting you on Ravencrest -- choose ally side so I can gank 'j00  ________________________________________________________ Freedom is illusion created by weird voices in my head |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.31 10:24:00 -
[279]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 31/10/2005 10:27:58 I was just checking out your kb Seleene and noticed that Battle Angels were fighting with you guys now? Is that a permanent thing? Did I miss an announcement when I was out sunbathing in Turkey??
tbh, taking Boldyn's boys on is a pretty scary prospect for any future contracts because they are some of the best I have fought against.
lol, I just checked thier stats... 352 kills this month. Yep, still scary buggers!
Cheers, dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.10.31 10:35:00 -
[280]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 31/10/2005 10:27:58 I was just checking out your kb Seleene and noticed that Battle Angels were fighting with you guys now? Is that a permanent thing? Did I miss an announcement when I was out sunbathing in Turkey??
tbh, taking Boldyn's boys on is a pretty scary prospect for any future contracts because they are some of the best I have fought against.
lol, I just checked thier stats... 352 kills this month. Yep, still scary buggers!
Cheers, dbp
Somewhere earlier in this thread, it was said that as BA and MC were both hired for this contract, BA joined the MC to reduce the war costs. This is only for the duration of this contract and not a perminant arrangement.
Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.31 10:42:00 -
[281]
aha!
Doh, I had missed that due to Blacklights cheeky post. 
cheers, dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.31 10:42:00 -
[282]
Originally by: DB Preacher I was just checking out your kb Seleene and noticed that Battle Angels were fighting with you guys now? Is that a permanent thing? Did I miss an announcement when I was out sunbathing in Turkey??
tbh, taking Boldyn's boys on is a pretty scary prospect for any future contracts because they are some of the best I have fought against.
lol, I just checked thier stats... 352 kills this month. Yep, still scary buggers!
Battle Angels are the first corp we've allowed into the MC since we started the IGA. We knew we'd be working together again so instead of having to pay 50-150 million each for a war dec, having them join the IGA was the logical choice. We already share the same TS server, etc... and our communication with them is on par as with any other MC corp.
The corps of the MC have always been predominately Euro time zone based. Battle Angels fills a hole in our coverage, allowing us to nearly double our US time zone presence and the results have been awesome.
As to if this becomes a permanent arrangement will boil down to how the current MC corps feel and also if Dash and BoldynÆs crew wish it to be. Battle Angels are a very tight crew and I think everyone in the MC is happy to see them flying our flag, so to speak. For the moment though, weÆre all just taking the time to get to know each other and having fun together. 
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A Tribute to 4S Corp |

Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.31 10:52:00 -
[283]
Edited by: Seleene on 31/10/2005 10:53:00
Originally by: DB Preacher Doh, I had missed that due to Blacklights cheeky post. 
Yeah, that caused quite the jump in alliance chat for a couple minutes. Everyone was still in the "post war dec party" mode when someone mentioned the post.
"Aw hell, it's on now!" "w00000t!" "Oh hell, now what?!" "BoB declared on us." "Mommy!!" "I'm going to get drunk now." "More red 4TW!" "Does this mean we get more money?" "Time to actually insure my ship, I guess." "I'm going to get me a Dianabolic corpse." <--- mine "Awseome! Find thier haulers!" "Eyeshadow is a little girl." "FFS, I may have to fly a BS now?!"
... and so forth. Then someone got the bright idea to actually check thier mail and we found out BL was screwing with us. So we decided to let it ride on the forums until Eddz put his .02 isk in and I couldn't take it anymore.  -
A Tribute to 4S Corp |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.31 10:56:00 -
[284]
While I'm here and bored at work, I noticed that there wasn't a time limit announced for the length of the contract in the OP.
Is that sekrit or is it just rolling?
I'll leave after that question, honest ;)
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.31 11:03:00 -
[285]
Edited by: Seleene on 31/10/2005 11:04:18
Originally by: DB Preacher While I'm here and bored at work,
You too, eh?
Originally by: DB Preacher I noticed that there wasn't a time limit announced for the length of the contract in the OP.
Yeah, I noticed that too. I've heard everything from "a few weeks" to "until Stan is boiling in a pit of his own filth!" so your guess is as good as mine. 
Originally by: DB Preacher I'll leave after that question, honest ;)
Riiiight. See you in General Discussion, then? 
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A Tribute to 4S Corp |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.31 11:04:00 -
[286]
haha,
Cheers hon,
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Dracolich
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Posted - 2005.10.31 12:08:00 -
[287]
Why not make Battleangels a permanent member of MC? _______________________________________
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BDCI isFTEK
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Posted - 2005.10.31 13:07:00 -
[288]
While you're at it, why don't you make Frontier Technologies [FTEK] a part of the MC too. After all it is BDCI's production corporation. |

Qwynn
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Posted - 2005.10.31 13:17:00 -
[289]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
Originally by: Hast
just stop now before you make even a bigger fool of yourself.
Yea, I am so sorry for pointing out that you guys outnumber us with about 1000 members.
Btw, will you guys stay docked much longer? Its getting boring to fight you 
You should really take his advice 
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Proconsul Para
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Posted - 2005.10.31 13:48:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Seleene
Yeah, that caused quite the jump in alliance chat for a couple minutes. Everyone was still in the "post war dec party" mode when someone mentioned the post.
"Aw hell, it's on now!" "w00000t!" "Oh hell, now what?!" "BoB declared on us." "Mommy!!" "I'm going to get drunk now." "More red 4TW!" "Does this mean we get more money?" "Time to actually insure my ship, I guess." "I'm going to get me a Dianabolic corpse." <--- mine "Awseome! Find thier haulers!" "Eyeshadow is a little girl." "FFS, I may have to fly a BS now?!"
... and so forth. Then someone got the bright idea to actually check thier mail and we found out BL was screwing with us. So we decided to let it ride on the forums until Eddz put his .02 isk in and I couldn't take it anymore. 
For all the laughs I had to turn TS to voice-activated back then 
Shield Inversion works best at lighting cigarettes in windy weather.
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.10.31 13:52:00 -
[291]
Originally by: BDCI isFTEK While you're at it, why don't you make Frontier Technologies [FTEK] a part of the MC too. After all it is BDCI's production corporation.
Quick! To the Altmobile!
Ne ne, ne ne, ne ne, ne ne, ne ne, ne ne, ne ne, ne ne - ALTMAN!!!111!!! \o/ ____________________________________________
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Hypocratus Maximus
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:06:00 -
[292]
Originally by: Zzazzt
Originally by: BDCI isFTEK While you're at it, why don't you make Frontier Technologies [FTEK] a part of the MC too. After all it is BDCI's production corporation.
Quick! To the Altmobile!
Ne ne, ne ne, ne ne, ne ne, ne ne, ne ne, ne ne, ne ne - ALTMAN!!!111!!! \o/
You should really let BDCI defend themselves. You do a poor job of it...
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Intak Atak
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:11:00 -
[293]
Originally by: Zzazzt
Originally by: BDCI isFTEK While you're at it, why don't you make Frontier Technologies [FTEK] a part of the MC too. After all it is BDCI's production corporation.
Quick! To the Altmobile!
Ne ne, ne ne, ne ne, ne ne, ne ne, ne ne, ne ne, ne ne - ALTMAN!!!111!!! \o/
4ltman is angry that you are unable to come up with something original. Pitty he dont post anymore.
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Obidios
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:15:00 -
[294]
Edited by: Obidios on 31/10/2005 14:17:36 nm. -----------------
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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2005.10.31 15:20:00 -
[295]
Originally by: Dracolich Why not make Battleangels a permanent member of MC?
We are getting to know the MC guys and they us before we make our final decision. We may or may not join the MC permanently, depending on how we feel as a group when the time arrives. For now, its to keep war dec costs down.  -----------------------------------------------
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Bullvar
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Posted - 2005.10.31 17:25:00 -
[296]
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Originally by: Dracolich Why not make Battleangels a permanent member of MC?
We are getting to know the MC guys and they us before we make our final decision. We may or may not join the MC permanently, depending on how we feel as a group when the time arrives. For now, its to keep war dec costs down. 
lol wot is the MC coming to? leilani solaris in Merc Allaince, now i have seen it all Crying 4tw eh leilani
Heidbanger/Bullvar
today is a good day to die!!!
WWW.SUPREMACY-EVE.COM |

Traxio Nacho
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Posted - 2005.10.31 17:38:00 -
[297]
Originally by: Bullvar
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Originally by: Dracolich Why not make Battleangels a permanent member of MC?
We are getting to know the MC guys and they us before we make our final decision. We may or may not join the MC permanently, depending on how we feel as a group when the time arrives. For now, its to keep war dec costs down. 
lol wot is the MC coming to?
leilani solaris in Merc Allaince, now i have seen it all Crying 4tw eh leilani
Heidbanger/Bullvar
Please keep the smack off this thread, thank you
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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2005.10.31 17:41:00 -
[298]
Originally by: Bullvar
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Originally by: Dracolich Why not make Battleangels a permanent member of MC?
We are getting to know the MC guys and they us before we make our final decision. We may or may not join the MC permanently, depending on how we feel as a group when the time arrives. For now, its to keep war dec costs down. 
Quote: lol wot is the MC coming to? leilani solaris in Merc Allaince, now i have seen it all Crying 4tw eh leilani
Heidbanger/Bullvar
It's been quite a long time since i was in Supremacy Heidbanger and ive learned alot since i was in Freeks, FIX, and Battle Angels. Excuse me if im not one for mega corps and Alliances with heads and ego's bigger than any man, woman, or Amarrian can handle. Battle Angels is far greater than Supremacy will ever be, Simply because we have respect for our enemies and friends and are dedicated towards each other and the corporation as a whole. We try our hardest to better ourselves, we are not perfect however, who is? Everyone makes mistakes but we learn from them and adapt.
/flame off. -----------------------------------------------
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Amos Sommers
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Posted - 2005.10.31 18:57:00 -
[299]
... I killed an MC last night and I feel proud about it =p Green engine trails 4tw. S H I N R A
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.31 19:18:00 -
[300]
Originally by: Amos Sommers ... I killed an MC last night and I feel proud about it =p
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A Tribute to 4S Corp |

Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.10.31 21:00:00 -
[301]
My Gods.
People, a fleet battle in New Caldari at Jita gate is a bad idea. Itching to get back in from having been lagged out :/
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.10.31 21:09:00 -
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Seleene ignores me 
Beside I know also few alt-corps for MC but why bother saying 'em? Ransoming is key word here  ________________________________________________________ Freedom is illusion created by weird voices in my head |

Dezra
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Posted - 2005.10.31 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ithildin My Gods.
People, a fleet battle in New Caldari at Jita gate is a bad idea. Itching to get back in from having been lagged out :/
Looks like you had one hell of a fight... Impressive stats. 
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Draximus Cane
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Posted - 2005.10.31 21:50:00 -
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Yeah it was great fights looking forward to many more!!
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Lowa
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Posted - 2005.10.31 22:22:00 -
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Massive kudos to M.Corp for taking the fight! /me tips hat
Regards, LOWA
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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2005.10.31 23:10:00 -
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the fight was sooo much fun. Kudos to M Corp and thanks for a great fight.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.10.31 23:23:00 -
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Edited by: Nafri on 31/10/2005 23:23:23 but didnt went well for 5 
that looks worse then FA fighting m0o --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Don Shinra
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Posted - 2005.10.31 23:26:00 -
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I'm certain the outcome of the fight was decided by lag rather than skill or ability.
Member of [5]
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LcGhK9
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Posted - 2005.10.31 23:27:00 -
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Nafri, why is your sub canceled? 
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.10.31 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Don Shinra I'm certain the outcome of the fight was decided by lag rather than skill or ability.
Lag in New Caldari?, for sure :D
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Camel S
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Posted - 2005.10.31 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Don Shinra I'm certain the outcome of the fight was decided by lag rather than skill or ability.
What lag? I didn't see any lag. I warped in at 60km and landed 10km beside the gate and it was empty, no ships, no drones, no lag 
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.11.01 00:05:00 -
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M.Corp jumped in, loading, loading, loading, didnt load, warped off due to lag, didnt warp, got scrambled, got killed.
But oh well, now we are in 0.0 no lag here (not as much) 
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Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.11.01 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius M.Corp jumped in, loading, loading, loading, didnt load, warped off due to lag, didnt warp, got scrambled, got killed.
But oh well, now we are in 0.0 no lag here (not as much) 
Weee, I love when people post without thinking first. Were you there btw..aha, you weren't..I see
1. They jumped in, we warped to the gate. We were not there waiting for them. You think we were lag-free or something?
2. They were scrambled? I see, interesting since our 2 ( I belive ) tacklers were sitting very close to where I was...60-70km off the gate. Even if, I fail to see the excuse in loosing cuss you were scrambled...I think that's why scramblers were invented.
Saying the result was due to lag is pretty poor, but hey, you weren't there, you call it!
Was fun and the lag was bad but expected. To bad people feel the need to post crap.

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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2005.11.01 00:36:00 -
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Edited by: Leilani Solaris on 01/11/2005 00:36:41 Are you trying to say the MC have less 'skill' than [5]?....                
"ok"
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.01 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius M.Corp jumped in, loading, loading, loading, didnt load, warped off due to lag, didnt warp, got scrambled, got killed.
But oh well, now we are in 0.0 no lag here (not as much) 
Oh please... Give it a rest allready..
SoonÖ
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.11.01 04:16:00 -
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Looked like one hell of a fight, someone better have been frapsing Œ_Œ
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Agent Kenshin
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Posted - 2005.11.01 04:18:00 -
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Originally by: Farjung Looked like one hell of a fight, someone better have been frapsing Œ_Œ
Why dont you stop playing lone ranger and come back and join us you poofy n00b...
Originally by: MAXSuicide only carebears call pvpers 'greifers'
ehehehh....
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.11.01 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: Don Shinra I'm certain the outcome of the fight was decided by lag rather than skill or ability.
Okay... I'll bite - I think the only real question that needs to be asked here is: why do you think this?
As has been pointed out, lag was not bad at all and MC had very few tacklers. It was a pure slugfest and M. Corp certianly didn't just sit there and do nothing.  -
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KingAc
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Posted - 2005.11.01 08:05:00 -
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Free kladdkaka to M.Corp
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.11.01 08:17:00 -
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Edited by: Caybn E''vangel on 01/11/2005 08:18:47 I have no idea what kladdkaka is, but it looks good 
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.11.01 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Boldyn
Originally by: Amthrianius M.Corp jumped in, loading, loading, loading, didnt load, warped off due to lag, didnt warp, got scrambled, got killed.
But oh well, now we are in 0.0 no lag here (not as much) 
Weee, I love when people post without thinking first. Were you there btw..aha, you weren't..I see
1. They jumped in, we warped to the gate. We were not there waiting for them. You think we were lag-free or something?
2. They were scrambled? I see, interesting since our 2 ( I belive ) tacklers were sitting very close to where I was...60-70km off the gate. Even if, I fail to see the excuse in loosing cuss you were scrambled...I think that's why scramblers were invented.
Saying the result was due to lag is pretty poor, but hey, you weren't there, you call it!
Was fun and the lag was bad but expected. To bad people feel the need to post crap.

mmmmh, different from what i was told then, but oh well i guess 3rd part information gets distorted the number of people it goes through :/
But yeah i think our group just missed your fleet, we jumped into new caldari and as we left you came to the Jita Gate :[
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.11.01 08:27:00 -
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Sh*t happens..you win some you lose some. I wasnt there (damn pirating days) but from listening on TS m.corp had severe problem with lag as some people who got killed still thought they hadnt been shot at yet lol.
I`m sure there will be plenty more fights and 1 battle doesnt win a war (congrats to mc on a successful night)
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.11.01 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius But yeah i think our group just missed your fleet, we jumped into new caldari and as we left you came to the Jita Gate :[
We got word you guys were on the move. As was stated by our guys:
5 fleet # 1: jumped before we got organized.
5 fleet # 2: didn;t stay in place long enough.
M. Corp: Just right 
NC Fight FRAPs
Nothing fancy, but you can see by the module activation time at the start how the lag was. It gets better toward the end. -
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Bjartmar
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Posted - 2005.11.01 10:11:00 -
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Edited by: Bjartmar on 01/11/2005 10:15:33 Looking at the killboards. The first BS kill registered by M corp shows at 20:56.. About 4 mins after MC registered the first kills. And the first kills ranging from 20:52 - 20:56 included 6 BS.
These 6 BS, none of which are on any BS killmains against MC. Just seems that even sized fleets would invariably kill evn number of BS. And yet, in the first 4 mins of the fight. M corp kill 1 cruiser and 1 frig.
Of these 2 kills there are 2 BS on them. ONLY 2 for the first 4 mins of the fight.
On the other hand in this early period of the fight, there are already 12-13 MC BS already shooting/registering kills against M corp. Checking the Megathron kill (Andy Moo) at 20:53 (a mere 1 min into the fight and the 5th M corp BS to go down).
Call it how you will, From my perspective.. it was a lagfest for the first 4 mins for the ones jumping in. 9/10 times the lag is worse for the ones jumping in than the ones warping in.
Again, thats how it appears to me. But, if there was a FRAPS on M corp side We will see how it went. Atleast for the player Frapsing (if any).
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.01 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Bjartmar Looking at the killboards. The first BS kill registered by M corp shows at 20:56.. About 4 mins after MC registered the first kills. And the first kills ranging from 20:52 - 20:56 included 6 BS.
These 6 BS, none of which are on any BS killmains against MC. Just seems that even sized fleets would invariably kill evn number of BS. And yet, in the first 4 mins of the fight. M corp kill 1 cruiser and 1 frig.
Of these 2 kills there are 2 BS on them. ONLY 2 for the first 4 mins of the fight.
Call it how you will, From my perspective.. it was a lagfest for the first 4 mins for the ones jumping in. 9/10 times the lag is worse for the ones jumping in than the ones warping in.
Again, thats how it appears to me. But, if there was a FRAPS on M corp side We will see how it went. Atleast for the player Frapsing (if any).
Depends on range and skills,
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.11.01 10:15:00 -
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Just out of curiosity, if M Corp had won, would this one fight still get such a detailed analysis?  -
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Bjartmar
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Posted - 2005.11.01 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Just out of curiosity, if M Corp had won, would this one fight still get such a detailed analysis? 
I dunno... I'm an alt (newly purchased char) of an ex 5 member. Farjung has known me since before Eve and I have always held Merc coalition in high regards. In this case it just seems VERY odd that 14 BS can only register 3 kills against another fleet of similar proportions.
From how I see it the first 4 mins were too lag infested for M corp to do much dmg. Giving enough time for the other side to align and warp out before overwhelming fire was able to laid down upon each target.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.01 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Just out of curiosity, if M Corp had won, would this one fight still get such a detailed analysis? 
Of course not 5 are to l33t to just loose a fight without an out of game reason  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Bjartmar
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Posted - 2005.11.01 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Seleene Just out of curiosity, if M Corp had won, would this one fight still get such a detailed analysis? 
Of course not 5 are to l33t to just loose a fight without an out of game reason 
Do you really hate the [5] so much. 2/3 of your last posts have been veiled smack towards the 5.
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.11.01 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 01/11/2005 06:40:36
Originally by: Don Shinra I'm certain the outcome of the fight was decided by lag rather than skill or ability.
Okay... I'll bite - I think the only real question that needs to be asked here is: why do you think this?
Because it's MC Seleene? sorry couldn't resist, you walked right into that one.
Anyways, it's quite clear the only losses we've even noticed have been inflicted by MC - makes you wonder how poor PA, SE & F-E really are... NBSI are doing okay but still wait for the gank a little too much 
So to sum it up - PA, SE and F-E, have you changed position as to [5] dying since you havn't been able to even slow us down? To compare your three have been bugs on the windshield splatting out - MC is merely a speedbump, we aren't gonna stop because of them besides they are timelimited.
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.11.01 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Seleene Just out of curiosity, if M Corp had won, would this one fight still get such a detailed analysis? 
Of course not 5 are to l33t to just loose a fight without an out of game reason 
And you are a lemming following the other anti-[5] lemmings without any 'activity up there'.
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.11.01 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Bjartmar Looking at the killboards. The first BS kill registered by M corp shows at 20:56.. About 4 mins after MC registered the first kills. And the first kills ranging from 20:52 - 20:56 included 6 BS.
These 6 BS, none of which are on any BS killmains against MC. Just seems that even sized fleets would invariably kill evn number of BS. And yet, in the first 4 mins of the fight. M corp kill 1 cruiser and 1 frig.
Of these 2 kills there are 2 BS on them. ONLY 2 for the first 4 mins of the fight.
Call it how you will, From my perspective.. it was a lagfest for the first 4 mins for the ones jumping in. 9/10 times the lag is worse for the ones jumping in than the ones warping in.
Again, thats how it appears to me. But, if there was a FRAPS on M corp side We will see how it went. Atleast for the player Frapsing (if any).
Depends on range and skills,
you saw the video where RAT raped a Shinra fleet 9:0?
You saw the one where RAT logged off even thuogh they had 2:1 in numbers (incl. BS)?
Nice anti-[5] crusade Nafri, but it's getting old, go try to PVP instead.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.11.01 10:40:00 -
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Its not a case of hating/loving the 5, its just it seems they are incapable of just accepting a loss, for whatever reason, and try making stuff up to cover up for getting, well, pwned basically (i mean that not in the "i pwned j00 sense")
Lets put it this way. we warped into the gate as M Corp jumped in. We were not sitting on the gate, drones deployed etc etc waiting for them to try and lag them out. We warped in, they jumped in, the lag was herendous. I sat for about 2 minutes doing jack all. Couldnt activate anything, couldnt warp, couldnt switch ammo. It was probably the same for M Corp.
It was a good fight, straight out slug fest, one which we havent had for a while. The fleets were pretty much even, and our support stayed with our fleet, so no one from M Corp got scrambled in the earlier part of the engagement. The lag was bad, for both sides. Dont make excuses, accept defeat graciously. It will gain you much more respect
And respect is what i have for M Corp. Our first stand up fight with 5
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.11.01 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Just out of curiosity, if M Corp had won, would this one fight still get such a detailed analysis? 
Yes, all the anti-[5] fanboi's would be all over it.
Facts remain Seleene that M. was lagged out and you took down a major part + got EW on before most had even loaded. Just accept you won round 1 on lag and prepare for round 2 instead of trying to convince yourself it was not lag related and pure skill.
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Bjartmar
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Posted - 2005.11.01 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow Its not a case of hating/loving the 5, its just it seems they are incapable of just accepting a loss, for whatever reason, and try making stuff up to cover up for getting, well, pwned basically (i mean that not in the "i pwned j00 sense")
Lets put it this way. we warped into the gate as M Corp jumped in. We were not sitting on the gate, drones deployed etc etc waiting for them to try and lag them out. We warped in, they jumped in, the lag was herendous. I sat for about 2 minutes doing jack all. Couldnt activate anything, couldnt warp, couldnt switch ammo. It was probably the same for M Corp.
It was a good fight, straight out slug fest, one which we havent had for a while. The fleets were pretty much even, and our support stayed with our fleet, so no one from M Corp got scrambled in the earlier part of the engagement. The lag was bad, for both sides. Dont make excuses, accept defeat graciously. It will gain you much more respect
And respect is what i have for M Corp. Our first stand up fight with 5
Firstly Eyeshadow, I'm not [5]. So do not put my statements and heap them on the 5.
I am ex [5]. I am a member of a corp that its share of [5] haters.
I just had to point out that in the first 4 mins you had 13 BS already shooting targets (shown by the 6 kills gotten in the first 4 mins and 5 of which came in the first 2 mins).
You do not have to be camping a gate to create lag, Jumping 30 people in at one time into a system generates enough lag as it is. I'm sure you have encountered this? I know that moving a fleet in 0.0 with 30 ppl jumping simultaneously can cause huge lag despite these systems being empty.
Apparently it took M corp 4 mins to register 1 kill. While they lost 6 BS in the same period and weren't able to warp these ships out despite not being scrambled :) Again.. seems so odd.
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Hypocratus Maximus
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Posted - 2005.11.01 10:58:00 -
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Quote:
Apparently it took M corp 4 mins to register 1 kill. While they lost 6 BS in the same period and weren't able to warp these ships out despite not being scrambled :) Again.. seems so odd.
Quoted for truth....
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Yzman Shhan
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Posted - 2005.11.01 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla
Anyways, it's quite clear the only losses we've even noticed have been inflicted by MC - makes you wonder how poor PA, SE & F-E really are... NBSI are doing okay but still wait for the gank a little too much 
So to sum it up - PA, SE and F-E, have you changed position as to [5] dying since you havn't been able to even slow us down? To compare your three have been bugs on the windshield splatting out - MC is merely a speedbump, we aren't gonna stop because of them besides they are timelimited.
Let's keep this thread clean of OMG-PA-FE-SE-WHATEVER-SUCKS-WE-4TW stuff, this is a MC thread...
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.11.01 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Yzman Shhan Let's keep this thread clean of OMG-PA-FE-SE-WHATEVER-SUCKS-WE-4TW stuff, this is a MC thread...
Seeing as it was from your alliance they were hired - it's kinda related dont you think?

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Hypocratus Maximus
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Posted - 2005.11.01 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Yzman Shhan
Originally by: Drilla
Anyways, it's quite clear the only losses we've even noticed have been inflicted by MC - makes you wonder how poor PA, SE & F-E really are... NBSI are doing okay but still wait for the gank a little too much 
So to sum it up - PA, SE and F-E, have you changed position as to [5] dying since you havn't been able to even slow us down? To compare your three have been bugs on the windshield splatting out - MC is merely a speedbump, we aren't gonna stop because of them besides they are timelimited.
Let's keep this thread clean of OMG-PA-FE-SE-WHATEVER-SUCKS-WE-4TW stuff, this is a MC thread...
Everlasting Vendetta in F-E...
Isnt that the definition of retread?
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.11.01 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Hypocratus Maximus
Quote:
Apparently it took M corp 4 mins to register 1 kill. While they lost 6 BS in the same period and weren't able to warp these ships out despite not being scrambled :) Again.. seems so odd.
Quoted for truth....
Perhaps we focused our fire better in that first four minutes? Perhaps our guys getting shot managed to warp out faster? I've been on both ends of this. I've commanded and been in fleet battles where we absolutely decimated the other side in 90 seconds without suffering a single loss. I've also watched my BS explode and three of my mates go down before I even realized what was happening (I HATE G's Tempests ).
Looking at a killboard tells you nothing about the actual events of a fight.
Originally by: Drilla Facts remain Seleene that M. was lagged out and you took down a major part + got EW on before most had even loaded. Just accept you won round 1 on lag and prepare for round 2 instead of trying to convince yourself it was not lag related and pure skill.
Drilla, I'm not trying to convice myself of anything. Of course the lag was a factor, but it was there for both sides, not just us. Especially in Empire, lag plays a factor all the time. There's no debate about that and we in the MC have probably lived with the insane amount of Empire lag as much as any other PvP group in the game.
However, I've seen the FRAPS. There were people warping in and out constantly. It wasn't a total lag fest. There was very much a fight going on at that gate. Kudos to M Corp for standing thier ground and comming back in over and over to keep the battle going.
The MC has a lot of respect for [5]. We didn't enter this contract lightly (we had a couple other potential choices and took the hardest of them), so one fight certianly isn't going to cause us to relax. However, as I said before, the comments from 5 at this point seem to be, "There's no way MC could have won if the lag hadn't helped." Why does the result have to be qualified instead of just saying, "Next time we'll splatter ya!"?  -
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Knat
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Posted - 2005.11.01 11:32:00 -
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Next time we'll splatter ya! 
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.11.01 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene However, as I said before, the comments from 5 at this point seem to be, "There's no way MC could have won if the lag hadn't helped." Why does the result have to be qualified instead of just saying, "Next time we'll splatter ya!"? 
Because The Five live by their reputation of being uber and anything that may soil that reputation has to be put down by making excuses for their losses, and smacking down any1 elses claims that anything other than skill plays the part in a 5 victory.
Sorry but ive seen it before, again and again. Dont really wanna be smacky but im disappointed in The Five's attitude so far
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.11.01 11:36:00 -
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Respect to MC last night for a job well done. You clearly won the battle against us for a number of reasons. We are all aware that we under performed on a grand scale last night.
M.Corp is in a position that we have never before been in today, waking up after a heavy defeat is hard for some, but for the most part is a positive experience that not only tests the mettle of our membership but also improves us as a corp. We are not accustomed to loosing battles, and you have provided us with a text-book example of our empire shortcomings.
A fight with MC last night was most certainly not our objective, we were bound for 0.0 yet we found ourselves in the middle of a nightmare.
All I can say is thanks for a clean fight and we will be back with immediate effect to move on with our objectives.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.11.01 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 01/11/2005 11:49:38 Velios, you and your corp (no matter what alliance you have been in) have always been one of the most respectable in EVE. I salute you, sir, and hope you get the oppertunity soon to pay us back in kind. 
Originally by: Zajo There are always more factors behind a fight then we can see, maybe their FC got dragged away from the comp by his 5 year old daughter that just needed to show him the new barbiehouse she got? We can never be sure to why something went wrong or right.
My two year old son has certianly never come on TS and started trying to command an MC fleet...    -
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.11.01 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: KIATolon on 01/11/2005 11:54:47
Quote: Because The Five live by their reputation of being uber and anything that may soil that reputation has to be put down by making excuses for their losses, and smacking down any1 elses claims that anything other than skill plays the part in a 5 victory.
Sorry but ive seen it before, again and again. Dont really wanna be smacky but im disappointed in The Five's attitude so far
I was pretty keen to post a well done till I saw your post. What happened to the no smack policy? Here and on the forums too. Starting statements with "I dont like to smack but..." in local, doesn't make it any less smack either...
Anyway.
Eyeshadow, good show... you've just de-valued your great victory
Anyway, in my opinion MC need to be protecting F-E/PA and NBSI and not hunting... after doing some sums it seems we could suffer this loss kind of every other day and still be inflicting more damage on the war decced corps (taking into account what MC "usually" charge..of course ) than we're taking.
MC are doing a great job (despite the smack and seeming support of exploits but hey, if it gets the job done?) and they seem to me to be the only thing stopping the northern corps from suffering irreparable damage.
Congrats. We can still support these losses (not that we want too) for quite a while, and now the 5 are no longer in empire I will be very interested to see the way this affects MC's fighting style. Paying someone a bunch of ISK to gank a few shuttles seems like a waste of money to me ;)
edit: Lots of posts since I started this.
Props to Velios.
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.11.01 11:55:00 -
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Yep. This was my first fleet fight with this number of BS's. Congrats to MC for well done job. Even though Im sad for corpmates that lost so many ships and that we didnt manage to come on our destination, Im glad for this expiriance I gain today and for that I thanks once more. You cant allways get what you want .
Regarding lag....I guess lots of pilots had it on both sides....some more, some less. I do have to admit that for first several minutes of battle non of us got feeling that we losing this fight at that time. No any info about our ship got raped or killed on TS....then suddenly ...poof...gone.
But it was certinaly night that any pilot has to expiriance sooner or later. Cause if there wouldnt be bad things , there wouldnt be good things eather. GF MC ALL my words on this forum are my OWN thoughts and opinions |

KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:01:00 -
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I think the thing is, lag has the ability to affect both sides equally, but rarely does.
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Twisted One
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:06:00 -
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Edited by: Twisted One on 01/11/2005 12:10:01 Edited by: Twisted One on 01/11/2005 12:09:49 Edited by: Twisted One on 01/11/2005 12:09:27
Originally by: Velios Respect to MC last night for a job well done. You clearly won the battle against us for a number of reasons. We are all aware that we under performed on a grand scale last night.
M.Corp is in a position that we have never before been in today, waking up after a heavy defeat is hard for some, but for the most part is a positive experience that not only tests the mettle of our membership but also improves us as a corp. We are not accustomed to loosing battles, and you have provided us with a text-book example of our empire shortcomings.
A fight with MC last night was most certainly not our objective, we were bound for 0.0 yet we found ourselves in the middle of a nightmare.
All I can say is thanks for a clean fight and we will be back with immediate effect to move on with our objectives.
Velios,
A thank you from all of those involved in this fight that care more for a good fight, with a ballsy opponent, than unnecessary analysis and flaming afterwards.
I salute you sir and look forward to more fun and destruction in the future.
T1. (Not really MC) 
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:07:00 -
[349]
Originally by: Hypocratus Maximus
Everlasting Vendetta in F-E...
Isnt that the definition of retread?
people move on. get over it
Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
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Traxio Nacho
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:07:00 -
[350]
Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 01/11/2005 12:08:56 "MC are doing a great job (despite the smack and seeming support of exploits but hey, if it gets the job done?) and they seem to me to be the only thing stopping the northern corps from suffering irreparable damage."
Excuse me exploits?
There was alot of lag last night for both sides, I could lock stuff up quick but when it came to shoot my target was dead before anything even activated. It was a good fight on both sides Kudos for M. Corp for fighting, everyone had fun.
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:08:00 -
[351]
Originally by: KIATolon
MC are doing a great job (despite the smack and seeming support of exploits but hey, if it gets the job done?) and they seem to me to be the only thing stopping the northern corps from suffering irreparable damage.
Sir, I will ask you to explain what you mean here in bold.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Traxio Nacho
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:14:00 -
[352]
I clearly do less work, at work than u trooper 
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:18:00 -
[353]
Trax + assit from Sandwich at desk >Speed> Trooper + forum
*sighs*
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:19:00 -
[354]
Quote: MC are doing a great job (despite the smack and seeming support of exploits but hey, if it gets the job done?) and they seem to me to be the only thing stopping the northern corps from suffering irreparable damage.
Exactly my point. Reputation must be upheld so you use completely baseless and false arguments. Smack talk? The only smack talk ive seen has been from me in my last post, and that was stating FACT, not smacking, though it can be hard to see the difference
Exploits? WTF are you talking about? No one in the MC has knowingly ever used an exploit to get kills, and if they did i would most certainly make sure the issue was resolved. Instead of trying to soil our name with complete trash, how about some cold hard facts about these exploits and smack talk?
Thank you for proving my point anyway, much appreciated
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:22:00 -
[355]
/emote drags Eye away from the forums, gives him a Deimos and points to the north part of the map.  -
'You have foolishly engaged the MC in Empire space. Prepare to suffer the consequences!' |

Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:27:00 -
[356]
Edited by: Eyeshadow on 01/11/2005 12:27:11
Originally by: Seleene /emote drags Eye away from the forums, gives him a Deimos and points to the north part of the map. 
I'm at work, though i'll take the deimos when i get home 
I'm just curious as to what these exploits are that KIAtalon referred to. Oh and the smack talk aswell
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:28:00 -
[357]
MC AER TEH SPLOIETERS
H4X!!!!!!!!!!!
I think 5 are in for a very rough ride tbh.
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Treebeard dk
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:33:00 -
[358]
Originally by: Twisted One
Velios,
A thank you from all of those involved in this fight that care more for a good fight, with a ballsy opponent, than unnecessary analysis and flaming afterwards.
I salute you sir and look forward to more fun and destruction in the future.
T1. (Not really MC) 
       
Why is everyone saying good job to Velios when I made the call to jump in and fight, you all made me cry now, see what you've done  
Joking ofcourse but I ordered Velios to wash my new tempest, he better get to work, I want it shining before sunset !
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:35:00 -
[359]
Originally by: Traxio Nacho Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 01/11/2005 12:08:56 "MC are doing a great job (despite the smack and seeming support of exploits but hey, if it gets the job done?) and they seem to me to be the only thing stopping the northern corps from suffering irreparable damage."
Excuse me exploits?
There was alot of lag last night for both sides, I could lock stuff up quick but when it came to shoot my target was dead before anything even activated. It was a good fight on both sides Kudos for M. Corp for fighting, everyone had fun.
signed lol,
well didnt I mentioned enemies of the 5 are all ebil xploiters 
goddam I love it when thy manage to proof my point right within the next 10 posts --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Traxio Nacho
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:38:00 -
[360]
Originally by: Treebeard dk
Originally by: Twisted One
Velios,
A thank you from all of those involved in this fight that care more for a good fight, with a ballsy opponent, than unnecessary analysis and flaming afterwards.
I salute you sir and look forward to more fun and destruction in the future.
T1. (Not really MC) 
       
Why is everyone saying good job to Velios when I made the call to jump in and fight, you all made me cry now, see what you've done  
Joking ofcourse but I ordered Velios to wash my new tempest, he better get to work, I want it shining before sunset !
Good job to Treebeard dk for making the call to jump into fight.
Happy now 
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:42:00 -
[361]
Originally by: Treebeard dk Joking ofcourse but I ordered Velios to wash my new tempest, he better get to work, I want it shining before sunset !
Treebeard, a Tempest does not ever "shine", not like a sleek and beautiful Megathron. Poor Velios will never be able to do the task set before him.
Or was that the idea??  -
'You have foolishly engaged the MC in Empire space. Prepare to suffer the consequences!' |

Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:48:00 -
[362]
F-E (your employer) convo spammed him in Jita when you killed him, so he couldnt dock
and he didnt say YOU exploited, he said supported.
Just clearing it up (thats as much as i know)  ---------------
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:48:00 -
[363]
Now, could there please be a bit less smack and a bit more respect in this thred? If what it takes is to derail the thred slightly to get it back on track, I'll certainly add my weight to it.
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Zajo There are always more factors behind a fight then we can see, maybe their FC got dragged away from the comp by his 5 year old daughter that just needed to show him the new barbiehouse she got? We can never be sure to why something went wrong or right.
My two year old son has certianly never come on TS and started trying to command an MC fleet...   
You're just jellous he does it better than you 
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:49:00 -
[364]
Originally by: Amthrianius F-E (your employer) convo spammed him in Jita when you killed him, so he couldnt dock
and he didnt say YOU exploited, he said supported.
Just clearing it up (thats as much as i know) 
File a petition instead of laying blame at our feet.
Thank you for the clarification, though.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:49:00 -
[365]
Originally by: Amthrianius F-E (your employer) convo spammed him in Jita when you killed him, so he couldnt dock
and he didnt say YOU exploited, he said supported.
Just clearing it up (thats as much as i know) 
Well petition it, petitioned the last M.Corp members who spammed me with invites too --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:52:00 -
[366]
Im just informing you of what I KNOW. And as far s i know it has been petitioned
and dont use my quote saying "you" Im just giving you the information as KIATolon i think has gone away from the boards and it was stepping out of control  ---------------
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:55:00 -
[367]
I am a 3 months rookie, and I have killed more Five than I have been killed by them. I have no idea why some people (BoB) seem to think Five is the uber. They seem like normal average PvP players to me (neither better nor worse).
From the fights I have had with Five and VI, I would say VI is tougher, both in numbers and in fighting ability.
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Smithers
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:58:00 -
[368]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I am a 3 months rookie, and I have killed more Five than I have been killed by them. I have no idea why some people (BoB) seem to think Five is the uber. They seem like normal average PvP players to me (neither better nor worse).
From the fights I have had with Five and VI, I would say VI is tougher, both in numbers and in fighting ability.
Yes, but you the guy who said we war decced you, so believing you is like believing my friend Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf. And also the guy who said F-E are winning so yeah, heh, keep it up rookie. 
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Treebeard dk
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:00:00 -
[369]
Originally by: Traxio Nacho
Originally by: Treebeard dk
Originally by: Twisted One
Velios,
A thank you from all of those involved in this fight that care more for a good fight, with a ballsy opponent, than unnecessary analysis and flaming afterwards.
I salute you sir and look forward to more fun and destruction in the future.
T1. (Not really MC) 
       
Why is everyone saying good job to Velios when I made the call to jump in and fight, you all made me cry now, see what you've done  
Joking ofcourse but I ordered Velios to wash my new tempest, he better get to work, I want it shining before sunset !
Good job to Treebeard dk for making the call to jump into fight.
Happy now 
YAY 
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:01:00 -
[370]
Quote: MC AER TEH SPLOIETERS
H4X!!!!!!!!!!!
I think 5 are in for a very rough ride tbh.
You also thought that BoB declared war on MC.
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Treebeard dk
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:01:00 -
[371]
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Treebeard dk Joking ofcourse but I ordered Velios to wash my new tempest, he better get to work, I want it shining before sunset !
Treebeard, a Tempest does not ever "shine", not like a sleek and beautiful Megathron. Poor Velios will never be able to do the task set before him.
Or was that the idea?? 
Gotcha
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Bazman
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:03:00 -
[372]
Take a break
For the record, I lub fighting MC, had a good fight yesterday, but whoever was flying that raven I landed my Blasterthron on top is one lucky chappie.
Lets quit all the smack and hug.
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Phoney Lisa
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:05:00 -
[373]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I am a 3 months rookie, and I have killed more Five than I have been killed by them. I have no idea why some people (BoB) seem to think Five is the uber. They seem like normal average PvP players to me (neither better nor worse).
From the fights I have had with Five and VI, I would say VI is tougher, both in numbers and in fighting ability.
You're one of the unique individuals that can devalue your entire alliance simply by speakign a few words (or writing in this case).
Congradulations are in order.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:08:00 -
[374]
Originally by: Amthrianius F-E (your employer) convo spammed him in Jita when you killed him, so he couldnt dock
and he didnt say YOU exploited, he said supported.
Just clearing it up (thats as much as i know) 
And what does that have to do with us? We neither need, nor have asked for, direct assistance in combat from anyone whilst on contract. Not our employer, not other people, not anyone.
I will look into this matter and find out if any MC pilot knew anything about this. If they did, then i will have words, but im 99% sure MC pilots knew nothing about this.
And just because you claim F-E is the employer doesnt make it so. F-E (and NBSI/PA) combat forces have nothing to do with us. How they play, what they do, what tactics they use have no bearing on the MC, and vice versa. If they chose to spam someone with chat invites, then take it up with them. Do not try and claim we exploit cos someone else at war with you did something dodgy
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:12:00 -
[375]
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Originally by: Amthrianius F-E (your employer) convo spammed him in Jita when you killed him, so he couldnt dock
and he didnt say YOU exploited, he said supported.
Just clearing it up (thats as much as i know) 
And what does that have to do with us? We neither need, nor have asked for, direct assistance in combat from anyone whilst on contract. Not our employer, not other people, not anyone.
I will look into this matter and find out if any MC pilot knew anything about this. If they did, then i will have words, but im 99% sure MC pilots knew nothing about this.
And just because you claim F-E is the employer doesnt make it so. F-E (and NBSI/PA) combat forces have nothing to do with us. How they play, what they do, what tactics they use have no bearing on the MC, and vice versa. If they chose to spam someone with chat invites, then take it up with them. Do not try and claim we exploit cos someone else at war with you did something dodgy
I guess you didnt READ this
I think your just arguing for the sake of it now without reading what other people put, which is jus smack and as Bazman says, lets just stop it now? *hugs* ---------------
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:12:00 -
[376]
Originally by: Seleene /emote drags Eye away from the forums, gives him a Deimos and points to the north part of the map. 
Sometimes I read these forums with a sense of guilt. If I had never met Eyeshadow what would Eve be like now?
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The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |

Avon
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:15:00 -
[377]
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Originally by: Amthrianius F-E (your employer) convo spammed him in Jita when you killed him, so he couldnt dock
and he didnt say YOU exploited, he said supported.
Just clearing it up (thats as much as i know) 
And what does that have to do with us? We neither need, nor have asked for, direct assistance in combat from anyone whilst on contract. Not our employer, not other people, not anyone.
I will look into this matter and find out if any MC pilot knew anything about this. If they did, then i will have words, but im 99% sure MC pilots knew nothing about this.
And just because you claim F-E is the employer doesnt make it so. F-E (and NBSI/PA) combat forces have nothing to do with us. How they play, what they do, what tactics they use have no bearing on the MC, and vice versa. If they chose to spam someone with chat invites, then take it up with them. Do not try and claim we exploit cos someone else at war with you did something dodgy
A little tip my old friend.
You can never, ever, ever, never, ever, ever, never, ever win a debate like this - even if you are right it makes you look guilty.
When some one posts "You support exploits" You reply " "
Just leave it there.
Trust me on this. ______________________________________________
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |

Bazman
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:16:00 -
[378]
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Originally by: Amthrianius and as Bazman says, lets just stop it now? *hugs*
Listen to the man
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:20:00 -
[379]
rabble rabble rabble
destination = H-PA
See ya there (hopefully)
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:31:00 -
[380]
Originally by: Amthrianius I think your just arguing for the sake of it now without reading what other people put, which is jus smack and as Bazman says, lets just stop it now? *hugs*
I think the point is Amthrianius, you are a second party in all this, not the actual person who made the accusation of supporting exploiting in the first place.
You are stating things, as far as you know the case is.
KIATolon can easily disarm this by posting what he actually meant when he posted rather than us picking apart what he said by what we think he said. It might simply be a bad choice of words, but until KIATolon posts in response (and he has posted around an hour after Trax and myself asked him to clarify his statement) we won't know what he specifically meant by his choice of words.
Its not arguing for the sake of it - accusations of exploiting or supporting exploiting are taken seriously in any group especially by the leadership and that is something [5], MC, and every group can agree upon.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Tek Na'Shakk
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:41:00 -
[381]
Originally by: Bazman Take a break
For the record, I lub fighting MC, had a good fight yesterday, but whoever was flying that raven I landed my Blasterthron on top is one lucky chappie.
Lets quit all the smack and hug.
I manage to warp with about 4000 structure left ecm 4 the win :)
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:44:00 -
[382]
Actually Aoun the idea was to rile them a bit, make them angry about me calling them cheats (when I didn't), then let them get angry at me for something else they thought I was saying... eventually I will post the local chat log somewhere of the (minority, admittedly) MC guys going "nicely done" and "haha, convo spam ftw" and "I dont usually smack talk but YOU GOT OWNED" etc (those were not direct quotes, but just paraphrased). Probably after the war's finished.
There's also the issue of continuing to work for people that have been petitioned AND PENALISED for cheating... It's hard to retain respect when working for a cheat.
Would MC support someone killing NPC spawns next to macro miners (knowing full well they are macro miners), setting them up with instas or escorting them to their sale point... and getting paid for it in ISK?
I wouldn't. Using cheats in a game is un-necessary in all circumstances, whether in PVE or PVP and I guess I just expected MC to be more critical about actual cheating than they. I'd also like to point out that despite eyeshadow branding the entire of the 5 as people that never just say GG and get on with the next fight I'd like to further clarify that myself and none of the 5 belive that all of MC support cheating.
Just to clarify. If someone had hired me to protect them whilst macro mining I would take their money and shoot them as soon as I realised they were macrominers. Supporting a cheat in this way is not acceptable. The leader of that fleet knows they cheat. He was there when a bunch of them started having a go at me in local because they got warned for convo spam. Ask him what's going on... he'll probably give you a side of the story that's a little more palletable anyway. You should ask him why he was flaming me in local though?
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:52:00 -
[383]
Convo Spamming somone so they cant redock, is just low.
If it is evidential, and fact, then those responsible should be named, and should be hung out to dry.
If KIA members ever did this, theyd be finding a new corp with immediate effect.
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:57:00 -
[384]
Edited by: Seleene on 01/11/2005 13:59:11
Quote: There's also the issue of continuing to work for people that have been petitioned AND PENALISED for cheating... It's hard to retain respect when working for a cheat.
If our client(s) are cheaters, then I'm sure CCP will punish them for it. That's not my concern. All we care about is having a client with clear goals, who can communicate those goals so that we can execute them and who pays up front and on time. Outside of that, I don't really care. I've got enough to worry about trying to help manage almost 150 alpha males and one insane female Wolf pilot.  
Put it this way: if you put a ship on the market to sell, do you convo the guy who bought it and ask, "Hey, did you get that isk macro mining? You did?! Gimmie my ship back!!"?
As to whatever was said in local, if it wasn't by an MC member, it's not my job to police him. Show me an MC member smacking it up and it's doubtful you'll ever see it again.  -
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Razor IV
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:01:00 -
[385]
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 01/11/2005 13:59:11
Quote: There's also the issue of continuing to work for people that have been petitioned AND PENALISED for cheating... It's hard to retain respect when working for a cheat.
If our client(s) are cheaters, then I'm sure CCP will punish them for it. That's not my concern. All we care about is having a client with clear goals, who can communicate those goals so that we can execute them and who pays up front and on time. Outside of that, I don't really care. I've got enough to worry about trying to help manage almost 150 alpha males and one insane female Wolf pilot.  
Put it this way: if you put a ship on the market to sell, do you convo the guy who bought it and ask, "Hey, did you get that isk macro mining? You did?! Gimmie my ship back!!"?
As to whatever was said in local, if it wasn't by an MC member, it's not my job to police him. Show me an MC member smacking it up and it's doubtful you'll ever see it again. 
amen! now lets have one of those lovely *clicks* here please 
Convo has ran its course me thinks, move on people!
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LcGhK9
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:02:00 -
[386]
No way, i wanna see the chat logs! if this is true, then i have no doubt MC will kick them Reaaaal fast.
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:04:00 -
[387]
Edited by: KIATolon on 01/11/2005 14:05:21 Just for the record, I was aligned 100km above the stn to a SS. It stopped me being able to warp out as everything was selected and ready to go.
And no seelene, it's nothing like that. A better comparison would be to compare what you guys are doing to buying ISK from ebay. You KNOW the provider is breaking the rules in both instances.
Edit: When the war is over you can convo me and I'll dig some log up. While we're at war I am not going to help you to trim these people from your alliance :)
Anyway
Good fight yesterday folks. It was well executed and we lost. I Look forward to some more.
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:07:00 -
[388]
U all rock with ur guns so go in game and use them =) So we can see some fraps soonsih dammit! _________________ http://asuya.eve-killboard.net/ |

Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:11:00 -
[389]
Originally by: Smithers
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I am a 3 months rookie, and I have killed more Five than I have been killed by them. I have no idea why some people (BoB) seem to think Five is the uber. They seem like normal average PvP players to me (neither better nor worse).
From the fights I have had with Five and VI, I would say VI is tougher, both in numbers and in fighting ability.
Yes, but you the guy who said we war decced you, so believing you is like believing my friend Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf. And also the guy who said F-E are winning so yeah, heh, keep it up rookie. 
Well, even on Fives killboard I have a 4-to-1 ratio in my favour (8 kills, 2 deaths with player Magnus Thermopyle), but its actually way more than that. Check it yourself.
But my point is, as far as I can tell Five is just an average PvP alliance. Not the uber will-gank-you-with-250-BS alliance everyone (especially BoB) told me they where when the war started. So far the smaller VI has proven to be much more of a challenge.
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Azeusus
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:15:00 -
[390]
Originally by: Razor IV -vi- have been the most impressive member of all opponents to date, smack free willing to bring the fight, even with the klingons -vi- has remained dedicated to thier cause. gl in future -vi- and let the fights keep coming 
altage ftw! 
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Razor IV
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:15:00 -
[391]
-vi- have been the most impressive member of all opponents to date, smack free willing to bring the fight, even with the klingons -vi- has remained dedicated to thier cause. gl in future -vi- and let the fights keep coming 
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:17:00 -
[392]
KIATolon (feels weird that I know Tolon in real life, and your not him!)
I disagree with your sentiment within this thread 100%.
MC are a Merc corp, they have a simple goal.
They get paid to do a job, so "get paid" and "do job" should be thier concerns.
The fact (it would seem) that their employers (assumed i think still) both smack talk and are users of sploits, is nothing of concern to them, as long as their members neither profit nor involve themselves in either occupation.
If of course MC members are smacking, or using such spolits, send evidence to Seleene. The result of clear evidence of those transgressions, I am sure would be instant and very obvious to those watching. Seleene is no softer on his guys, that I am on mine.
As for the pilots that sploited you, to gain a kill, they are the lowest of the low, they very pit of the people that play this game, and they should hang thier heads in shame. Disgusting. Their CEOs should press the expel member button as soon as they possibly can.
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Azeusus
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:18:00 -
[393]
and remember "auto-reject" is your friend! 
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:18:00 -
[394]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Seleene /emote drags Eye away from the forums, gives him a Deimos and points to the north part of the map. 
Sometimes I read these forums with a sense of guilt. If I had never met Eyeshadow what would Eve be like now?

Remember when we all used to mess around near Athounon in Placid, those were the days......
To all those saying about MC using explots, I know for a fact Eyeshadow would not condone using exploits of any kind, just to add my 2c.
El Presedente
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:19:00 -
[395]
I think there are two kinds of Mercs. Those that do dirty work such as protecting macro miners and other exploiters, and those that pick their contracts more carefully.
As I said. I always thought MC were of the latter group. Would you take a contract say for example, sitting in a belt protecting miners if someone admitted the barges will be unmanned isk making machines?
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:28:00 -
[396]
Again Tolon, your reference to "macro miners" seems to be the crux of your argument.
MC are not here to police their employer, and no realistic individual would expect them to do so.
The fact that a very small minority of their employer (still yet to see confirmation of FE being MCs employer), have used spolits, is of no concern to them, as long as their members were not involved. The correct police (CCP and CEOs of the members involved) should be contacted with real evidence, and the matter should be layed to rest with the parties involved receiving the punishments that are seen fit by the correct police.
There is only 1 type of Merc that is succesful in this game. The ones that take on contracts that pay well and do the job they have been asked to do. Your insinuation that there are different Merc entities, some honourable some not, is tbh with you, utter tosh.
Your loss, and your argument is with FE, not MC.
I do feel that in some feeble way your attempting to push MC away from the contract, and if so this effort is poor at best, and you should probably leave the political machinations to those that "do" that sorta thing.
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Traxio Nacho
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon I think there are two kinds of Mercs. Those that do dirty work such as protecting macro miners and other exploiters, and those that pick their contracts more carefully.
As I said. I always thought MC were of the latter group. Would you take a contract say for example, sitting in a belt protecting miners if someone admitted the barges will be unmanned isk making machines?
No offence but your agruement is some what floored, I would say alot of alliances buy in minerals off the market on buy orders "The Five" prob do we all need minerals to build. Macro miners sell their minerals to buy orders generally, you are buying said minerals with your logic you are exploiting.
If the MC had to take that into consideration everytime they were offered a contract we would be out of business
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: KIATolon on 01/11/2005 14:42:39
Quote: Again Tolon, your reference to "macro miners" seems to be the crux of your argument.
And two pages ago "I" seemed to be accusing MC of cheating. ;)
My confusion with MC is that I wouldn't have expected them to associate with such people.
Quote: No offence but your agruement is some what floored, I would say alot of alliances buy in minerals off the market on buy orders "The Five" prob do we all need minerals to build. Macro miners sell their minerals to buy orders generally, you are buying said minerals with your logic you are exploiting.
No, it would be more like buying it off of ebay. If I bought my minerals off of ebay then I know the people selling it are exploiting the game. I dont KNOW the people on the market are exploiting. Do you see the difference?
Anyway I was merely trying ascertain whether, like you Eddz, they were/are confused about the situation or whether they really dont give a **** if they are working for exploiters (that seem to not give a **** about the fact their corps exploit).
However those questions have been clouded by mis-comprehension and are now no longer relevant, so lets just leave it.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:46:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 01/11/2005 14:48:50
Originally by: KIATolon My confusion with MC is that I wouldn't have expected them to associate with such people.
People with money?
Quote: I was merely trying ascertain whether, like you, they were/are confused about the situation or whether they really dont give a **** if they are working for exploiters (that seem to not give a **** about the fact their corps exploit).
We are not confused. I don't think many people give a **** where the ISK comes from. Catching l33t hAx0rs is CCP's job.
Actually, in this particular case, I like to think it comes from LoxyRider & Chowdown mining for morphite, who then sold some of it to our client, who then made some T2 goodie who then sold it on the market who then decided to give the profits to the MC so we could kill Loxy and Chow...
Because that would be teh funneh!  -
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:48:00 -
[400]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Seleene /emote drags Eye away from the forums, gives him a Deimos and points to the north part of the map. 
Sometimes I read these forums with a sense of guilt. If I had never met Eyeshadow what would Eve be like now?

Remember when we all used to mess around near Athounon in Placid, those were the days......
\o/
Funny when I think back to then (I didn't even remember the system tbh). Good honest fun. I enjoyed being the 'bad guy', and I think I played it pretty well.
Oh, and Hans, still the best name in Eve ever!
As to the subject... MC get paid (or not) to kill people, and have done so. Claims that their employer uses exploits has no bearing on what MC do. That is for petitions, not accusations. ______________________________________________
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |

KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:53:00 -
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Quote: Claims that their employer uses exploits has no bearing on what MC do. That is for petitions, not accusations.
So it seems.
:)
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.11.01 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle Well, even on Fives killboard I have a 4-to-1 ratio in my favour (8 kills, 2 deaths with player Magnus Thermopyle), but its actually way more than that. Check it yourself.
So you are what - first out of 2000 in your alliance to have positive stats.
Yup the surely classifies you as teh ³ber.
Now lock this thread and let's meet ingame instead - all of you *grouphug*.
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |

KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.11.01 15:20:00 -
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Quote: all of you *grouphug*
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.11.01 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: Trooper B99 on 01/11/2005 15:28:16
Quote: There's also the issue of continuing to work for people that have been petitioned AND PENALISED for cheating... It's hard to retain respect when working for a cheat.
Curious here, do you work on a guilt by association and all members of a corp or alliance or even associated group are guilty of a crime because one person, or even a small group is? Even if they have no knowledge of the "cheats"? Do you hold all members of [5] by that self-same ideal where by associating with people who have been in the past petitioned and penalised for exploits or for example, ebaying are guilty as well?
Quote: A better comparison would be to compare what you guys are doing to buying ISK from ebay. You KNOW the provider is breaking the rules in both instances.
What we do is NOTHING like ebaying, which is illegal by the EULA of this game. If you have allegations against any group, please petition them and if they are all guilty of exploiting the game, I am certain CCP will deal with them appropriately.
Quote: My confusion with MC is that I wouldn't have expected them to associate with such people [exploiters/cheats].
And mind if I ask if you have evidential proof of the people you are speaking about have exploited and been penalised for? Also, proof that that exploiting is operated by everyone in the alliance?
Quote: When the war is over you can convo me and I'll dig some log up. While we're at war I am not going to help you to trim these people from your alliance :)
Actually, no, I'm calling you out here and now, find those logs that support your position of the MC's support of exploits and smacktalk and send them to me or Seleene or I ask you to apologise to the whole MC.
I guess the bottom line is, from this quote: Quote: (despite the smack and seeming support of exploits but hey, if it gets the job done?)
Is your view that because in your eyes, FE may have players who may have exploited, that the MC also supports exploiting.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.11.01 15:32:00 -
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Quote: Actually, no, I'm calling you out here and now, find those logs that support your position of the MC's support of exploits and smacktalk and send them to me or Seleene or I ask you to apologise to the whole MC.
Or what? You'll wardec us?
  
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.11.01 15:36:00 -
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People, could you stop discussing the use of exploits or other people's bad behaviour?
It's always so sad seing threds cut short of replies with a mod as last post saying "Locked for flaming" or "Stop discussing exploits, mkay" or "If your reply got nerfed, email the mods"
Also, could people please make sure what they're writing is actually truthful arguments etc. and not blatant or insinuated lies?
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.11.01 15:45:00 -
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Luckily for me some of the perpetrators whined in local about having just got into trouble and started calling me a snitch...
Your alliance was there, you have the killmail. Ask the fleet commander what happened. I cant be bothered to do your job for you trooper. You do it. I've already told you how to find out what's going on. You could have found out exactly what was going on in the time it took you to type your long winded whine but instead you decided to start trying to tell me what to do (amusingly).
Dont get me wrong. You guys dont have to find out who was smack-talking... but people are not going to take your "we deal with smack-talkers" comments that seriously anymore if you dont are they ;)
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.01 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon Luckily for me some of the perpetrators whined in local about having just got into trouble and started calling me a snitch...
Your alliance was there, you have the killmail. Ask the fleet commander what happened. I cant be bothered to do your job for you trooper. You do it. I've already told you how to find out what's going on. You could have found out exactly what was going on in the time it took you to type your long winded whine but instead you decided to start trying to tell me what to do (amusingly).
Dont get me wrong. You guys dont have to find out who was smack-talking... but people are not going to take your "we deal with smack-talkers" comments that seriously anymore if you dont are they ;)
Should I check my petition against the M.Corp guys which sent me chatinvites in a combat in b-vip in februar 2005? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.11.01 16:01:00 -
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Quote: Should I check my petition against the M.Corp guys which sent me chatinvites in a combat in b-vip in februar 2005?
Uh, if you want? Why are you asking me?
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.11.01 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla first out of 2000 in your alliance to have positive stats.
orly? 
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.11.01 16:36:00 -
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how convenient huh Tolon. "i dont wanna police your alliance" etc etc. Show us the proof, and we will act on it. Without the proof, ur word means diddly squat. You need to shut up, really you do, or show me the proof of such exploits/smack talk. If theres MC involved, it will be dealt with
Until we see the proof, your claims of us exploiting/smack talking are bullcrap. As for working for dodgy characters, LMAO. The Five are well known for their smack talk and forum whoring, and id probably hazard a guess that you have some dodgy players within your ranks as well.
Any proof of an MC member engaging in, or condoning, any kind of dodgy play will be dealt with. Talking on the forums and trying to accuse us of something with no proof will mean nothing at all
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.11.01 16:46:00 -
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Seleene haxed my <3. 
And I heard the noise of thunder. And I looked and behold: a pale horse. And his name, that sat on him, was Death. And Hell followed with him |

Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.11.01 17:05:00 -
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Come on chaps! Pull yourselves together!
-Less petty accusations and namecalling
-More exploding ships and general <3
That goes for both sides! ----------------------------------------
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.11.01 17:14:00 -
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when did this turn into such a flamefest :| tolon.. prove it or you are going to look stupid: i would believe the MC's word above yours any day. And drilla i really doubt that there is only one person with positive stats in F-E 
Facts or nothing.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.11.01 18:11:00 -
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Seleenes people with money comment made me 
Tolon you dont quite grasp how these things work, to make an accusation it needs to be backed up with evidence. When evidence is given then the MC leadership can act.
Group hugz!!
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Marko Debreault
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Posted - 2005.11.01 18:30:00 -
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This contract is proving to be a lot of fun. The .5. are a great opponent and have some of the games best pvp'ers.
My expectations were met and exceeded when M. Corp jumped in and chose to fight us. I can't say for certain what their intel told them about us before the fight, but its undeniable that they stood and fought, rather than running, after it all went down.
These guys were essentially moving a fleet and not looking for a fight, but when one came their way they didn't flinch. I expected them to run, and we structured the ambush to be able to instapop as many as we could before they warped - we had a BS heavy fleet with very little tackling support. When they actually fought we were surprised. My personal respect and that of Battle Angels and the Mercenary Coalition goes out to M. Corp. You are a worthy addition to a great pvp alliance.
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Crzycnck2
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Posted - 2005.11.01 18:38:00 -
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Mercing = client with isk and clear instructions and payment upfront. What that client does (assuming it is our client cuz I have no clue) is their business and not that of the Merc corp. Unfortunately some people think we should get all moral about where the client got their isk from or that our target is upset that they lost a ship to someone using questionable tactics they are assuming is our client. Again why would we care!!! As long as MC is not doing it thatÆs all we care about. Should we care about the other corps in eve that use exploits that kill you as well? NO. so you know what GET OVER IT ALREADY.
Either put up the proof or, as Boldyn would say, STFU!!
As for the lag thing a few pages back. I wasnÆt there but why is it always the losers have lag. As for MC warping into the gate that is just pure and simple good tactics. If you know you are going to be lagged to death when you jump then why jump?? So really MC = Great Planning, [5] = not so great planning.
Battle Angels Gather, They Warp In, Guns Engage, Ships Die.
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.11.01 18:43:00 -
[418]
Biggest problem we face is we're too eager for a fight. 
However, ill quote you this:
"To not know defeat is a weakness of its own."
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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2005.11.01 18:56:00 -
[419]
Originally by: Amthrianius F-E (your employer) convo spammed him in Jita when you killed him, so he couldnt dock
and he didnt say YOU exploited, he said supported.
Just clearing it up (thats as much as i know) 
The kill you are referring to was nothing to do with us. we were NOT co ordinating with F-E in that fight AT ALL. it seems as we warped in an F-E member (i don't know who exactly) convo'd Zendolphin and we got the kill. However, Nothing at all to do with us, then Zendolphin proceeded to smack talk us in local. Also just after he popped F-E warped in. guessing to try and get the kill, but we got there first  
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Lek'karion
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Posted - 2005.11.01 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon Edited by: KIATolon on 01/11/2005 14:31:52 I think there are two kinds of Mercs. Those that do dirty work such as protecting macro miners and other exploiters, and those that pick their contracts more carefully.
As I said. I always thought MC were of the latter group. Would you take a contract say for example, sitting in a belt protecting miners if someone admitted the barges will be unmanned isk making machines?
(I mean morally - not whether you would reject it because it's a dull contract).
Sure, a job is a job... but using exploits is out of game mechanics.
As I said F-E got penalised for what they did, so I hope that's proof enough for you eddz. I've also seen PA up to various no good things. As for naming and shaming. I'll leave CCP up to dealing with these people individually. It's not my job and I dont know the entire story.
I am not going to help you to police your alliance Seleene, tbh the more time you spend tracking down your smacktalkers the less time you're spending concentrating on the contract, and that suits me. Eyeshadow generalising the entire of the 5 then proclaiming he was just speakin the truth would be a good start though.
Anyway, you're aware of the situation with both your own members (and fleet commanders) and F-E. What you now choose to do is going to be the real test of character.
It's one thing working for someone that is disliked (like me :)) or that uses dirty but LEGAL tactics. It's another thing working for people that have been penalised for exploiting (especially when so many of them in local made it quite vocal that it was such a good tactic to use).
However ISK is ISK and morals and ideals often go out of the window when money is concerned.
On the other hand, KIATolon could just be trying to enact a form of psy warfare by claiming several things and offering very little to no evidence with the whole "I'm not going to help you police your own alliance till after the war" and hope that the leaders spend valuable time that can be used to kill the contract and instead hunt the contract and slaughter those that stand before you. I believe .5. already provides enough fleeing targets from our sensors that any worrying about "smack talkers, and exploiters" than is unsported within MC can be dealt with when he feels inclined to offer more than just retoric then we can look into it. But comparing "protecting macro miners from NPC's" and actively hunting .5. as a merc contract is two completely different things, psy warefare on the forums isn't nearly as effective as 425 rails with Iron. Let your guns do your talking to the MC and not some tired retoric of an aging warrior. ....................................... FREEDING FRENZY ______)\______)\_____/(_______ ______)\______\o/____/(_______
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William Dampier
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Posted - 2005.11.01 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Velios
... M.Corp is in a position that we have never before been in today, waking up after a heavy defeat ... ... We are not accustomed to loosing battles ...
V I R I I HeadQuarters http://virii.homeip.net
V I R I I - We Are Here For Your Daughters
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Naphtalia
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Posted - 2005.11.01 20:14:00 -
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*hugs william dampier*
To be honest I was surprised to see M.Corp in empire, I thought they would sit out the war in HLW with 40BS camping a bubble.
So props to M.Corp for leaving Curse, I guess you do follow directions!
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Zigadenus
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Posted - 2005.11.01 22:52:00 -
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Laugh it up Willy D. I give credit where it's due, and you guys never got us quite like that.
Nap, you yourself ran into M.Corp guns over a week ago in Sinq. The look of surpise favors your dainty brows on plain face though so I don't mind that it's still there. 
________________________________________________ Kyle > Why do you have to ask me all these complicated questions? Zerodragon > Dude, IÆm trying to save your setup from complete suckage. |

William Dampier
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Posted - 2005.11.01 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Zigadenus Laugh it up Willy D. I give credit where it's due, and you guys never got us quite like that.
Ziggy you know I lub ya... just poking a little fun at the statements... I looked at the MC stats and yeah I am not sure we ever got ya quite that bad, but you still are the only corp we went into an arranged 8 on 8 against and we killed 9 
Either way you will always have my respect ziggy, i wish you all the luck and kills in the world, as long as they aren;t VIRII kills that is 
V I R I I HeadQuarters http://virii.homeip.net
V I R I I - We Are Here For Your Daughters
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Weco
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Posted - 2005.11.01 23:50:00 -
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The guys we fight (.M.) has earned our respect, especially because theyre not smacking in this thread (or very limited smack, didnt read all 15 pages). Some other corp however, who wasnt even in the fight lost our respect because they smacked. Strange eh?
Next time we fight we might get pwnd by .M., it wont surprise me tbh, and to ease that defeat some i wont say that im better then .M. in any way (the higher i consider myself now, the higher the fall will be some day), i just consider this victory a coinsidence of some various factors (we had a good FC online, we were hungry for kills, .M. wasnt there to fight a fleetbattle, Mars and Jupiter was aligned e.t.c.)
Again, kudos to .M., lets hope we will fight more 
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Latex Mistress
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Posted - 2005.11.02 00:06:00 -
[426]
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah... Shut yer yaps, get in game, and turn on your guns - the whole lot of ya!
Don't make me come back here again - we play to have fun, not argue trivialities! 
LM
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.11.02 00:46:00 -
[427]
Originally by: Weco Mars and Jupiter was aligned e.t.c.)
MC hacked the universe and exploited god in order for the above to happen. Yep i can definatly say thats the only reason you won j/k
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Oiri Yusko
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Posted - 2005.11.02 01:20:00 -
[428]
I think this thread has run it's course. The original intent of the thread has been fulfilled. Thank you.
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