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Jim Roebuck
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:12:00 -
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Would it work with, persay, an Incursion fleet to attach two railguns on top of my missiles to get extra DPS? Yes, it would involve carrying around more ammo and costing more cargo and I have to press more buttons, but would it be worth it? "Black shadows hanging over his shoulders Black mark up against your name Your green eyes couldn't get any colder There's red poison flowing through your veins..." AC/DC, Evil Walks |

RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
400
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:32:00 -
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Incursions are all about fast kills, High DPS. Most Incursion fleets want more 'bling' than just a T1 Raven will bring. And they want Gunships for instant damage.
Aside from that, group your weapons and it's only on more click. (Or 6 less clicks if you're not grouped) |

Jim Roebuck
Perkone Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:44:00 -
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RavenPaine wrote:Incursions are all about fast kills, High DPS. Most Incursion fleets want more 'bling' than just a T1 Raven will bring. And they want Gunships for instant damage.
Aside from that, group your weapons and it's only on more click. (Or 6 less clicks if you're not grouped)
I'm aware of weapon grouping. "Black shadows hanging over his shoulders Black mark up against your name Your green eyes couldn't get any colder There's red poison flowing through your veins..." AC/DC, Evil Walks |

Fronkfurter McSheebleton
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
213
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Posted - 2013.05.29 16:25:00 -
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Nothing wrong with using those extra slots. I've seen a few navythron and TFI pilots put torp launchers in the spare highs. thhief ghabmoef |

Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
284
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Posted - 2013.05.29 16:35:00 -
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Add sentry drones. Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |

sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
1127
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Posted - 2013.05.29 16:47:00 -
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Incursion FCs won't take your Raven, with or without these 2 rails. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |

Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
250
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:31:00 -
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sabre906 wrote:Incursion FCs won't take your Raven, with or without these 2 rails. 
maybe he's part of an incursion corp/alliance that approved it
but yes, attempting to join a public fleet won't happen in a missile ship if the FC has a gunboat to pick up instead. |

Steve Spooner
Mordu's Military Industrial Command Circle-Of-Two
67
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:10:00 -
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I like watching the incursion community slowly tear itself apart. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1910
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:02:00 -
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Allow me to introduce you to Laser Raven Theory Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
251
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:14:00 -
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is that actually for real |

Cage Man
215
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:42:00 -
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You should rather use unbonused "free" highs for cap and shield/armor RR.. you never know when a logi is going to DC. Oh PLEASE!!! CCP Fozzie Can I haz a Navy moa....... |

Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
34
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:48:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:is that actually for real No. Never mind that is from nearly 6 years ago. |

Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
167
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:51:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:is that actually for real
not sure about laven but for a good while laser rokh and projectile rokh were very viable alternate fits.
If you did not care about the lost range bonus, you got what could be better guns in the exchange (more speciific damage selection, capless guns with projectiles and the wtf factor as your target is wondering why he is taking RF emp damage from a hybrid boat).
Rest of this....if you can use guns op why not jsut roll a rokh. For even more damage maybe x-train gallente boats (if you have the guns already its just ships and maybe tweak some armour skills if lacking). Case of rokh and looking at fleets its getting more real damage on targett with instant hit. 10+ bs on a target primary, its dying fast. Probably faster than you can get a decent amount of missiles on it. |

Xander Det89
ROC Academy The ROC
1
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:53:00 -
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Show me the Raven fit with full missiles and two rails on it and I'll lol at how it also has at least 2 ACR rigs or Reactor Controls. |

Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
260
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Posted - 2013.05.30 21:51:00 -
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I proudly present the 800dps MegaHAM Raven
[Raven, Abadd-Raven]
Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II
X-Large Shield Booster II EM Ward Field II EM Ward Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Tracking Computer II 100MN Afterburner II
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5
/runs |

Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
254
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Posted - 2013.05.30 21:58:00 -
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a bad raven
i c whut u did thur |

Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
286
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Posted - 2013.05.30 23:09:00 -
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Klymer wrote:I proudly present the 800dps MegaHAM Raven
[Raven, Abadd-Raven]
Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II
X-Large Shield Booster II EM Ward Field II EM Ward Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Tracking Computer II 100MN Afterburner II
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5
/runs Looks suspiciously like old Typhoon.
Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |

Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
121
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Posted - 2013.05.31 02:05:00 -
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[Typhoon, Tachyphoon] Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II
100MN Afterburner II Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster Dread Guristas EM Ward Field Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Field
Imperial Navy Tachyon Beam Laser, Multifrequency L Imperial Navy Tachyon Beam Laser, Multifrequency L Imperial Navy Tachyon Beam Laser, Multifrequency L Imperial Navy Tachyon Beam Laser, Multifrequency L Imperial Navy Tachyon Beam Laser, Multifrequency L Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Light Missile
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Garde II x4
That build, mind you, is theoretically pretty viable.
As for the topic at hand, I don't think I'd bother with railguns on a raven, or at least not large railguns. Medium railguns to help with smaller stuff as it closes in maybe, but not large railguns. I'd probably also go for large ACs over medium railguns for taking out small stuff that's getting close to you.
[Raven, Something] Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
100MN Afterburner II X-Large Shield Booster II Caldari Navy EM Ward Field Caldari Navy EM Ward Field Caldari Navy Thermic Dissipation Field Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
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Verity Sovereign
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
436
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Posted - 2013.05.31 06:33:00 -
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Steve Spooner wrote:I like watching the incursion community slowly tear itself apart.
How is it tearing itself apart because it has some standards.
The standards are in place because there is competition.
Competition is generally a good thing
I love the tears of other fleets that run for an hour without winning any sites, spending ISK on faction ammo to "help" us finish the site faster (or maybe they don't spend the ISK for the 15% more DPS, which helps explain their losses) |

ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
545
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Posted - 2013.05.31 08:07:00 -
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Guns on a raven... you should hang your head in shame! - Nulla Curas |

Darksteel Rifter
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
688
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Posted - 2013.05.31 08:11:00 -
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Jim Roebuck wrote:Would it work with, persay, an Incursion fleet to attach two railguns on top of my missiles to get extra DPS? Yes, it would involve carrying around more ammo and costing more cargo and I have to press more buttons, but would it be worth it? If stasis webifiers and target painters are as scarce in your fleets as they have been in mine, then bringing medium or small railguns would be the best way to beef up your DPS. |

Halete
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
859
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Posted - 2013.05.31 08:52:00 -
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Steve Spooner wrote:I like watching the incursion community slowly tear itself apart.
That's like saying the PvP community is tearing itself apart when a Rifter full of warpcore stabilizers, a cloak and nothing in it's mid slots gets laughed out of a fleet. "To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21 |

Darksteel Rifter
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
704
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:51:00 -
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Halete wrote:[quote=Steve Spooner]That's like saying the PvP community is tearing itself apart when a Rifter full of warpcore stabilizers, a cloak and nothing in it's mid slots gets laughed out of a fleet. It's more like saying the PVP community is tearing itself apart when someone asks if they should fit an ECM jammer to their oracle.
It's kind of like fitting a gang link to a combat battlecruiser. It's probably a good idea yet nobody does it. |
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