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Weaselior BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation 1066	Posted - 2011.10.21 14:00:00 - [1] - Quote Mr R4nd0m wrote: STAY ON TOPIC - I WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM REPORTING TROLLS oh no you might report trolls who mock your horrible thread backs slowly out of the forum
Weaselior BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation 1066	Posted - 2011.10.21 14:12:00 - [2] - Quote Mr R4nd0m wrote: Weaselior wrote: Mr R4nd0m wrote: STAY ON TOPIC - I WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM REPORTING TROLLS oh no you WILL report trolls who mock your horrible thread backs slowly out of the forum fixed that for you - its quite a serious thread m8. But as usual the goon squad make a mokery of anything thats remotely serious about this game.. As you can see the sentence has a smiley on the end, meaning dont take life too seriously mate also. oh no the uncertainty is gone :ohdear: well i'm a dead man anyway now so I'm free, you cant do anything more to me to out of your thread :sun:
Weaselior BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation 1066	Posted - 2011.10.21 14:13:00 - [3] - Quote Mr R4nd0m wrote: I think you will also find ALOT dont.. Anyway everyone is entitiled to their own opinion and this is what discussions are for. when you become entitled to an opinion you will be given one
Weaselior BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation 1066	Posted - 2011.10.21 14:16:00 - [4] - Quote Brooks Puuntai wrote: RougeOperator wrote: BUT i can say that the CSM is not the issue here after reading the interview. Your right the current CSM isn't. However the CSM Process could be changed to have delegate positions for different aspects of the game, high, low, null. etc. So the CSM isn't completely biased towards a certain play style. This is the issue, not the current CSM or Goons. Sadly the OP is too butthurt over goons to realize this. i look forward to this, and a suprising number of highsec characters that are certainly not 0.0 alts voting for Iraf Thalbierd as their highsec representative
Weaselior BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation 1066	Posted - 2011.10.21 14:22:00 - [5] - Quote Mr Management wrote: The CSM is broken. The game was better in CCP's hand. When 5000 people can vote for their alliance leader who publically writes that he wants to break Eve then the system is flawed. sounds like you need...some anger management
Weaselior BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation 1066	Posted - 2011.10.21 14:39:00 - [6] - Quote Mr R4nd0m wrote: Tippia wrote: Mr Management wrote: The CSM is broken. The game was better in CCP's hand. When 5000 people can vote for their alliance leader who publically writes that he wants to break Eve then the system is flawed. No. It show that the system works. The "broken" part is that they only need 5,000 to get him the chair because the complainers can't stop complaining instead of activating and motivating an opposition. That's a flaw in the opposition, not the system. Wow anything about goons, you are there feeling butthurt, goon alt spotted.... go away tippia you offer nothing of any worth.... 0/10 didn't you say you were getting out of the thread anyway offtopic post spotted, reported
Weaselior BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation 1066	Posted - 2011.10.21 14:40:00 - [7] - Quote Jacob cirth wrote: The problem with the CSM is they operate without the consent of the players. There was no option for "no CSM at all", and instead, a lot of people just clicked "abstain" or didn't bother to vote in the first place. sure there is you run as a candidate who promises to do nothing when elected not our problem that not one of the thousands of you idiots thought up the solution I spotted in seconds
Weaselior BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation 1066	Posted - 2011.10.21 14:42:00 - [8] - Quote I will be that candidate, I am extremely lazy and will do nothing but jabber about worthless crap, vote for me
Weaselior BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation 1068	Posted - 2011.10.21 15:43:00 - [9] - Quote Signal11th wrote: Humm half agree half not, People have been complaining about Goons for years, some of it deserved some of it not, I think there's a section of the populace that are just bored with them (not me btw I find them quite quaint) yes but we didn't manage the deluge of goons :argh: post until we butchered over a thousand miners like swine
Weaselior BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation 1071	Posted - 2011.10.21 17:46:00 - [10] - Quote what most ignorant highsec pubbies do not realize is part of the function of the csm these days is to filter out the feedback from utter idiots before the feedback reaches CCP so these threads filled with the dumbest posts possible only solidify the need for the csm in its current iteration :sun:
Weaselior BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation 1071	Posted - 2011.10.21 17:47:00 - [11] - Quote a quick browse of the features and ideas forum also makes this point pretty strongly
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1882	Posted - 2011.12.22 20:25:00 - [12] - Quote Takara Mora wrote: Imigo, 600 is almost statistically significant - not that we have a controlled study going on, but very interesting :) .... Wonder, would it be possible to track how many stay and report back here in a month or two? If Goonfleet can get good retention, I may have to eat crow, biomass all my characters, and "if you can't beat em, join em" somehow lol. We have much better retention than average because our alliance is based on being able to recruit and keep new people. For every horrible barrier to entry CCP throws up, we have ways around it because our success requires we effectively recruit new players (since we do not recruit from the general EVE community). We have great retention as a result; if you join goonfleet you need never spend a single second mining or doing one of those other horrible highsec activities to get on your feet. There are tons of goons who consider 5m a rounding error that will shower more isk on newbies than they know what to do with (literally, given that they no longer need advanced learning skills), skillbooks, advice on how to actually have fun, and documentation that's head and sholders above what the average new player has (which is basically "this is a spaceship, this is the undock button, have fun")

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