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lolololo
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Posted - 2003.08.06 01:58:00 - [1]

Now that all the pirates are hardcore - and blocking all the gates out of 0.0 sectors - its not possible to mine or hunt in these areas with any safety


doesnt this make the game really boring/pointless for the rest of us? what can we do but mine omber all day, whilst they continue to make a hell of a lot of money?


game seems pointless to continue - we cant ever beat them, and now 50% of the game is out of bounds?

lolololo
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Posted - 2003.08.06 01:58:00 - [2]

Now that all the pirates are hardcore - and blocking all the gates out of 0.0 sectors - its not possible to mine or hunt in these areas with any safety


doesnt this make the game really boring/pointless for the rest of us? what can we do but mine omber all day, whilst they continue to make a hell of a lot of money?


game seems pointless to continue - we cant ever beat them, and now 50% of the game is out of bounds?

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Posted - 2003.08.06 02:01:00 - [3]

Mr. Complainy NeedEntertainy :)

your actually complaining about not being able to get into 0.0 space? I got a magical word for you: 'Microwarpdrive'.. or just wait till the ones camping the gate you need to get through log off.


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Posted - 2003.08.06 02:01:00 - [4]

Mr. Complainy NeedEntertainy :)

your actually complaining about not being able to get into 0.0 space? I got a magical word for you: 'Microwarpdrive'.. or just wait till the ones camping the gate you need to get through log off.


Skokeh
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Posted - 2003.08.06 02:02:00 - [5]

but they chase u and kill u

and u have to log off for 3 hrs until they go to bed

thats fun?

Skokeh
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Posted - 2003.08.06 02:02:00 - [6]

but they chase u and kill u

and u have to log off for 3 hrs until they go to bed

thats fun?

Nootami
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Posted - 2003.08.06 02:55:00 - [7]

Edited by: Nootami on 06/08/2003 02:55:25
"I got a magical word for you: 'Microwarpdrive'.. "

You uh... seemed to have missed this sentence.
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Posted - 2003.08.06 02:55:00 - [8]

Edited by: Nootami on 06/08/2003 02:55:25
"I got a magical word for you: 'Microwarpdrive'.. "

You uh... seemed to have missed this sentence.
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Xyber
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Posted - 2003.08.06 03:09:00 - [9]

just join the nearest alliance, they seem more than ahppy to try and make us pirates run.


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We've all dealt with it. In-game customer support. You would think that by now game companies might start to clue into the fact that a player whose run into a problem is already in a bad mood. So why design a support system around just ****ing them off all the more?

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Posted - 2003.08.06 03:09:00 - [10]

just join the nearest alliance, they seem more than ahppy to try and make us pirates run.


--- Sig ---
We've all dealt with it. In-game customer support. You would think that by now game companies might start to clue into the fact that a player whose run into a problem is already in a bad mood. So why design a support system around just ****ing them off all the more?

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lolololo
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Posted - 2003.08.06 03:45:00 - [11]

do they ever actually make u run?

lolololo
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Posted - 2003.08.06 03:45:00 - [12]

do they ever actually make u run?

lolololo
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Posted - 2003.08.06 03:53:00 - [13]

and 1 MWD will just get u through a blockade - even in a cruiser?

i suppose unless u warp to 36km from the gate!
lolololo
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Posted - 2003.08.06 03:53:00 - [14]

and 1 MWD will just get u through a blockade - even in a cruiser?

i suppose unless u warp to 36km from the gate!
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Posted - 2003.08.06 04:25:00 - [15]

S[ace is the harshest most unforgiving enviroments to living things
pirates make it tougher
if you aint up to it
you deserve to mine Omber 24/7
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Posted - 2003.08.06 04:25:00 - [16]

S[ace is the harshest most unforgiving enviroments to living things
pirates make it tougher
if you aint up to it
you deserve to mine Omber 24/7

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Change the world

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Darodem
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Posted - 2003.08.06 07:47:00 - [17]

I just wish the game was more realistic in terms of being able to tell which players are rogues and which are not.

I have lost cargo to pirate pilots with +9 ratings and I have seen legitimate businessmen destroyed as they shoot a mine that was targetted at them.

You brave hardworking pirates pat yourselves on the back all you want; I am always willing to take my share of losses because someone plays better or has better strategy. Grid exploits are not ok, neither is exploiting stupid concord with mines or -9.9 ratings.

My vision is that someday markets will be closed to individuals who do not meet local standards, that empire controlled facilities give full disclosure of usage by persons who have complaints filed against them. It is not legitimate citizens who should be running through blockades but pirates who should be running from the authorities.

Darodem
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Posted - 2003.08.06 07:47:00 - [18]

I just wish the game was more realistic in terms of being able to tell which players are rogues and which are not.

I have lost cargo to pirate pilots with +9 ratings and I have seen legitimate businessmen destroyed as they shoot a mine that was targetted at them.

You brave hardworking pirates pat yourselves on the back all you want; I am always willing to take my share of losses because someone plays better or has better strategy. Grid exploits are not ok, neither is exploiting stupid concord with mines or -9.9 ratings.

My vision is that someday markets will be closed to individuals who do not meet local standards, that empire controlled facilities give full disclosure of usage by persons who have complaints filed against them. It is not legitimate citizens who should be running through blockades but pirates who should be running from the authorities.

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Posted - 2003.08.06 08:26:00 - [19]

Quote:
My vision is that someday markets will be closed to individuals who do not meet local standards, that empire controlled facilities give full disclosure of usage by persons who have complaints filed against them. It is not legitimate citizens who should be running through blockades but pirates who should be running from the authorities.



I don't mind being chased out of empire space if I have negative security. *As long* as people with positive security get the same treatment out in serpentis/sansha/etc. space.

But I can see people thinking that this would be unfair.
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Posted - 2003.08.06 08:26:00 - [20]

Quote:
My vision is that someday markets will be closed to individuals who do not meet local standards, that empire controlled facilities give full disclosure of usage by persons who have complaints filed against them. It is not legitimate citizens who should be running through blockades but pirates who should be running from the authorities.



I don't mind being chased out of empire space if I have negative security. *As long* as people with positive security get the same treatment out in serpentis/sansha/etc. space.

But I can see people thinking that this would be unfair.
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Darodem
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Posted - 2003.08.06 08:35:00 - [21]

amen fair is fair...

Can't wait for player run stations and guns, ideally they will respond to corporations and individuals as they are rated with the owners.
Darodem
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Posted - 2003.08.06 08:35:00 - [22]

amen fair is fair...

Can't wait for player run stations and guns, ideally they will respond to corporations and individuals as they are rated with the owners.
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Posted - 2003.08.06 09:04:00 - [23]

this is weird... i have no problems with blockades and if i ran into them, i never even take a hit :| i'm not sure what this means, maybe pirates like me, but i doubt that :P there are plenty of Protector-Corps that will guard you and escort you for as low as 100k/hour. not bad if you're mining high-end ore that gives you millions/hour :)
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Posted - 2003.08.06 09:04:00 - [24]

this is weird... i have no problems with blockades and if i ran into them, i never even take a hit :| i'm not sure what this means, maybe pirates like me, but i doubt that :P there are plenty of Protector-Corps that will guard you and escort you for as low as 100k/hour. not bad if you're mining high-end ore that gives you millions/hour :)
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Quiz
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Posted - 2003.08.06 11:31:00 - [25]

Yeah, dont worry about pirates. Sure they have their little blockades in a few 0.0 systems, but there is thousands of 0.0 systems once you get past the camped ones.

Ive spent a month down in 0.0 now and havent seen any pc pirates. Of course I always check local when i travel. Cool

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Posted - 2003.08.06 11:31:00 - [26]

Yeah, dont worry about pirates. Sure they have their little blockades in a few 0.0 systems, but there is thousands of 0.0 systems once you get past the camped ones.

Ive spent a month down in 0.0 now and havent seen any pc pirates. Of course I always check local when i travel. Cool

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Posted - 2003.08.06 16:27:00 - [27]

Agrees with Quiz....look at the map and us the map...space is big big big....lotsa room for niches....Very Happy Check In game bounty news to see who's online etc....Very Happy
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Posted - 2003.08.06 16:27:00 - [28]

Agrees with Quiz....look at the map and us the map...space is big big big....lotsa room for niches....Very Happy Check In game bounty news to see who's online etc....Very Happy
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Posted - 2003.08.06 16:44:00 - [29]

"I don't mind being chased out of empire space if I have negative security. *As long* as people with positive security get the same treatment out in serpentis/sansha/etc. space."

... Well, you can't honestly say all the serpentis/sansha/etc pilots who hang around and own the 0.0 space welcome people with positive security with flowers... :s

That they're even less effective at their work than Concord, is another story....
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Posted - 2003.08.06 16:44:00 - [30]

You want us out of empire space so u can do ur thing with no chance of loss... now u want to get into 0.0 space with no chance of loss? Play the game and stop crying... u need some danger or u might as well go buy the sims. Really this is getting ridiculous, 0.0 is supposed to be dangerous!

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Posted - 2003.08.06 16:44:00 - [31]

You want us out of empire space so u can do ur thing with no chance of loss... now u want to get into 0.0 space with no chance of loss? Play the game and stop crying... u need some danger or u might as well go buy the sims. Really this is getting ridiculous, 0.0 is supposed to be dangerous!

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Reikoku
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Posted - 2003.08.06 16:44:00 - [32]

"I don't mind being chased out of empire space if I have negative security. *As long* as people with positive security get the same treatment out in serpentis/sansha/etc. space."

... Well, you can't honestly say all the serpentis/sansha/etc pilots who hang around and own the 0.0 space welcome people with positive security with flowers... :s

That they're even less effective at their work than Concord, is another story....
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Posted - 2003.08.06 17:22:00 - [33]

Soo.. it's not fair that some noob can't hop in a 100k frigate and go happily mine Bist deep in a 0.0, else mean people will shoot at him? Sorry but thats the breaks. This game is allready so pathetically easy to "level" in since it can all be done while logged off - if you don't want to slave away mining scord in a frigate.. just log the toon in to reset training sessions and don't play it for a couple months. Make only enough isk to buy a few skill packs then when you decide to play it.. you will have mining/drone/piloting/refining skills so high that money will come rolling in fast enough to buy a cruiser in 2 days.. then the cruiser will make coin so fast you can upgrade to some nice equipment and make coin even faster.

It's all about the skills.. which is all bout TIME. At least in this game you don't even have to play to advance.. just keep paying the subscription and resetting those skill timers. Rolling Eyes
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Caldari Provisions

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Posted - 2003.08.06 17:22:00 - [34]

Soo.. it's not fair that some noob can't hop in a 100k frigate and go happily mine Bist deep in a 0.0, else mean people will shoot at him? Sorry but thats the breaks. This game is allready so pathetically easy to "level" in since it can all be done while logged off - if you don't want to slave away mining scord in a frigate.. just log the toon in to reset training sessions and don't play it for a couple months. Make only enough isk to buy a few skill packs then when you decide to play it.. you will have mining/drone/piloting/refining skills so high that money will come rolling in fast enough to buy a cruiser in 2 days.. then the cruiser will make coin so fast you can upgrade to some nice equipment and make coin even faster.

It's all about the skills.. which is all bout TIME. At least in this game you don't even have to play to advance.. just keep paying the subscription and resetting those skill timers. Rolling Eyes
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Posted - 2003.08.06 17:46:00 - [35]

Quote:
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My vision is that someday markets will be closed to individuals who do not meet local standards, that empire controlled facilities give full disclosure of usage by persons who have complaints filed against them. It is not legitimate citizens who should be running through blockades but pirates who should be running from the authorities.



I don't mind being chased out of empire space if I have negative security. *As long* as people with positive security get the same treatment out in serpentis/sansha/etc. space.

But I can see people thinking that this would be unfair.


That'd be faction rather than sec-status I would have thought Drunken... but on either principle i'd be much happier with it that way also.

(Though you guys with negative guristas faction may have to move out of venal rather fast)
Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.08.06 17:46:00 - [36]

Quote:
Quote:
My vision is that someday markets will be closed to individuals who do not meet local standards, that empire controlled facilities give full disclosure of usage by persons who have complaints filed against them. It is not legitimate citizens who should be running through blockades but pirates who should be running from the authorities.



I don't mind being chased out of empire space if I have negative security. *As long* as people with positive security get the same treatment out in serpentis/sansha/etc. space.

But I can see people thinking that this would be unfair.


That'd be faction rather than sec-status I would have thought Drunken... but on either principle i'd be much happier with it that way also.

(Though you guys with negative guristas faction may have to move out of venal rather fast)
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Posted - 2003.08.14 09:13:00 - [37]

A little hint to all the newbies here. If you want to fly into 0.0 space it isn't like going shopping around the corner. You have to plan careful when you want to minimize the risk of getting caught by pirates.
I've been going into 0.0 space everytime I wanted and have neither been shot down in blockades nor sitting in a station for 3 hours/days/whatever (even when I was flying a shuttle ;-) ). It just takes some preparation, like for example looking at the map and avoiding those systems with high ship and pod kills in the last 24 hours, because those are the systems most likely to have a blockade.
0.0 space is SUPPOSED to be dangerous. If it wasn't everyone would mine Arkonor and the prices for it would be the same as for Veldspar (intentionally exagerating so please no market discussion ;-) ).
Best for you newbies, that want to get rich a little sooner is, not to mine or work on your own... join a corp. They provide you with cover, skills, better ships... and best of all 'tips and tricks' ;-). That's the best way to come around with a smaller number of clones ;-).

Wish you all a lot of fun and see you in space
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Posted - 2003.08.14 09:13:00 - [38]

A little hint to all the newbies here. If you want to fly into 0.0 space it isn't like going shopping around the corner. You have to plan careful when you want to minimize the risk of getting caught by pirates.
I've been going into 0.0 space everytime I wanted and have neither been shot down in blockades nor sitting in a station for 3 hours/days/whatever (even when I was flying a shuttle ;-) ). It just takes some preparation, like for example looking at the map and avoiding those systems with high ship and pod kills in the last 24 hours, because those are the systems most likely to have a blockade.
0.0 space is SUPPOSED to be dangerous. If it wasn't everyone would mine Arkonor and the prices for it would be the same as for Veldspar (intentionally exagerating so please no market discussion ;-) ).
Best for you newbies, that want to get rich a little sooner is, not to mine or work on your own... join a corp. They provide you with cover, skills, better ships... and best of all 'tips and tricks' ;-). That's the best way to come around with a smaller number of clones ;-).

Wish you all a lot of fun and see you in space
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Posted - 2003.08.14 14:02:00 - [39]

Edited by: Sidyous on 14/08/2003 14:03:24
Put it this way you are warned that you enter the areas below 0.5 at your own risk so you enter the system you accept the risks. You don't like the risks avoid the system you can make plenty of cash just mining omber or even pyroxeres in high security systems if you build stuff just put in a buy order for the minerals you don't have.

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Posted - 2003.08.14 14:02:00 - [40]

Edited by: Sidyous on 14/08/2003 14:03:24
Put it this way you are warned that you enter the areas below 0.5 at your own risk so you enter the system you accept the risks. You don't like the risks avoid the system you can make plenty of cash just mining omber or even pyroxeres in high security systems if you build stuff just put in a buy order for the minerals you don't have.

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Berrik Radhok
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Posted - 2007.08.26 14:11:00 - [41]

just be careful when you go in and you'll be fine
Originally by: Khavi Vetali

Oh don't worry, the goons are just as suicidal with their battleships as they are with their frigates.


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Posted - 2007.08.26 14:23:00 - [42]

Shocked

lmfao

necro
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Posted - 2007.08.26 14:38:00 - [43]

give me all you assets before you quit plz.
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Posted - 2007.08.26 15:36:00 - [44]

Originally by: Berrik Radhok
just be careful when you go in and you'll be fine


Hey look ! a goon being disruptive on the eve-o forums.
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Posted - 2007.08.26 16:12:00 - [45]

reading a necro all the way down before realising is like being Rick Rolled...

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Posted - 2007.08.26 16:20:00 - [46]

I was thinking, Mines ? Mines ?
What are they talking about, oh... 2003 necro..
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gettosmurf
gettosmurf
Gallente
Kingfisher Industries

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Posted - 2007.08.26 16:54:00 - [47]

Neeecro necro, necronecro, neeeheeecroho

(this sounds better if you sing it)
William DeMeo
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Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion

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Posted - 2007.08.26 17:56:00 - [48]

Damn I thought this was current Sad
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Plaetean
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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:12:00 - [49]

Originally by: Cleopatera
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
just be careful when you go in and you'll be fine


Hey look ! a goon being disruptive on the eve-o forums.


What?! Maybe there's scammers in Jita too...


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Suboran
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Gallente
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Intrepid Crossing

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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:14:00 - [50]

cant beat em, join em


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Trouble Every Day

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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:20:00 - [51]

Well I demand that everying I cant handle should be nurfed
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Trouble Every Day

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Posted - 2007.08.26 18:20:00 - [52]

Well I demand that everying I cant handle should be nurfed
Azirapheal
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Amarr
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL

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Posted - 2007.08.26 20:24:00 - [53]

OMG a necro older than a member of my family
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for.
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Posted - 2007.08.26 20:24:00 - [54]

OMG a necro older than a member of my family
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Posted - 2007.08.26 20:50:00 - [55]

holy friggin necro batman

<< zigzag forever. >>
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Posted - 2007.08.26 20:50:00 - [56]

holy friggin necro batman

<< zigzag forever. >>
Ironnight
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Posted - 2007.08.26 20:52:00 - [57]

0.0 is pretty empty and damn boring, if you ask me, use a scout and a little wits and you will be fine, the problem is the choke points, once you get past those, you should be fine.

Ironnight
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Posted - 2007.08.26 20:52:00 - [58]

0.0 is pretty empty and damn boring, if you ask me, use a scout and a little wits and you will be fine, the problem is the choke points, once you get past those, you should be fine.

Karlemgne
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Posted - 2007.08.26 22:32:00 - [59]

Originally by: Berrik Radhok
just be careful when you go in and you'll be fine



Ummmm... a 2003 necro?

Nice.


Karlemgne
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Posted - 2007.08.26 22:32:00 - [60]

Originally by: Berrik Radhok
just be careful when you go in and you'll be fine



Ummmm... a 2003 necro?

Nice.


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Posted - 2007.08.27 00:48:00 - [61]

*click*
/me whips out necro-disintegration beam
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*click*
/me whips out necro-disintegration beam
   
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