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Demoneta Adama
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.02 09:24:00 -
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The short story is as a customer the launcher gives me nothing but grief, and while I can now easily launch with my new .exe shortcut. Setting that up will be another 3 paragraphs of straight up boring technical reading a new player will have to do , before they can enjoy the game. That's on top of the already required 2 and a half yrs. of straight up boring reading that is the eve learning curve. That being sad CCP has always done what they want regardless of how players feel, and I doubt that's changing. |
Azrael Dinn
The 20th Legion
Mildly Sober
114
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Posted - 2013.06.02 09:33:00 -
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I'm trying to find away around the launcher. It's ready anoying the way it is. |
Riot Girl
Thundercats
The Initiative.
973
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Posted - 2013.06.02 09:38:00 -
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I like SSO for browser based stuff, not sure if it's necessary to have the client login associated with the browser based logins though.
Oh god. |
Riot Girl
Thundercats
The Initiative.
973
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Posted - 2013.06.02 09:40:00 -
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Azrael Dinn wrote:I'm trying to find away around the launcher. It's realy anoying the way it is.
Type password, press enter. I'm not sure how people are having trouble with that. If you're switching account, just select the account you want, press tab, type the password and press enter.
It would be nice if it saved passwords though. People say it's a security thing, but isn't typing your password also a security issue if you've got a keylogger somehow?
Oh god. |
Azrael Dinn
The 20th Legion
Mildly Sober
114
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Posted - 2013.06.02 09:45:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Azrael Dinn wrote:I'm trying to find away around the launcher. It's realy anoying the way it is. Type password, press enter. I'm not sure how people are having trouble with that. If you're switching account, just select the account you want, press tab, type the password and press enter. It would be nice if it saved passwords though. People say it's a security thing, but isn't typing your password also a security issue if you've got a keylogger somehow?
Pressing enter on my comp doesn't seem to work, it's slow, launching the game take ages for some reason (compared to the old way) and so on. So yeah I am having issues with the new laucher. |
AndromacheDarkstar
Zebra Corp
Gentlemen's Agreement
768
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Posted - 2013.06.02 09:47:00 -
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Single sign in is a usefull thing to have
The new launcher is absolutely terrible, its slow and replaces something that worked absolutely fine.
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Amarra Mandalin
Protocol 52
544
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Posted - 2013.06.02 09:49:00 -
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Vince Snetterton wrote:[quote=Nevyn Auscent]
Yes, I am sure the marketing people at Coke when they introduced New Coke thought something similar.
New Coke was a fail of historic proportion...I don't think the EvE launcher quite meets that mark. |
Dave Stark
3067
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Posted - 2013.06.02 09:50:00 -
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the launcher itself is a completely redundant feature. |
Demoneta Adama
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.02 09:50:00 -
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Azrael Dinn wrote:I'm trying to find away around the launcher. It's realy anoying the way it is.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238145&find=unread |
Maraner
The Executioners
Capital Punishment.
260
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Posted - 2013.06.02 09:59:00 -
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Sorry dont like it at all.
As usual ignored the feedback. Takes longer to log in. Pain in the ass and it appears to be causing lots of people problems getting in to the game.
Winner
the only certainty is that it wont be rolled back and that CCP will repeat this type of failure in the future. So pissed off by this that I can't even get angry any more. |
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Khador Vess
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
64
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Posted - 2013.06.02 10:00:00 -
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Rusty Scalpel wrote:Some stuff.
Have you never had to do some work as groundwork for later changes... how about if this SSO was the thing that enables char swapping without signing out... does the perspective change then... I suspect SSO is just that... something that's needed for other features like crime watch was, like the POS iterations are...
Do you know how much effort went into the changes? how many man hours... no you dont so you cant make any value/worth judgements based on the available information. I work as a SW Architect, and i Have worked as a developer again in the not so distant past... No company or Dev makes changes for the sake of it, it just doesnt happen or those that do dont survive 10+ years...
My 2p cut em some slack unless you have proof that this is a worthless change that gives the playerbase (not just you) absolutely nothing.... there are a lot of players out there who only have one account. I personally have multiple ac's however this change does not bother me in the slightest... |
Cyrus Alabel
Justified Chaos
8
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Posted - 2013.06.02 10:30:00 -
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mechtech wrote:How CCP casually threw away the expansion themed login screens and music really concerns me.
That was part of Eve's legacy.
The best part of the bi-yearly new expansion ritual is loading up the new login screen and listening to the new music theme. Did nobody at CCP speak up? Maybe nobody really cares about such things, sad...
That and the connection login sounds. It's really very weird to log in and not hear Aura say "connecting". |
Dalmont Delantee
EXPCS Corp
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
137
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Posted - 2013.06.02 10:43:00 -
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I don't give a damn about the launcher either way.
Hows that for an answer? |
Obunagawe
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Posted - 2013.06.02 10:58:00 -
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Khador Vess wrote:
My 2p cut em some slack unless you have proof that this is a worthless change that gives the playerbase (not just you) absolutely nothing.... there are a lot of players out there who only have one account. I personally have multiple ac's however this change does not bother me in the slightest...
If it's groundwork for future changes then it should have been kept in beta until at least SOME of these "future changes" were ready. Given that they have released it with many bugs, and in a state which actually makes logging in a more click-intensive process than the old launcher, I believe any complaint is justified. It should never have been released in this state. |
Hehaw Jimbojohnson
Frontier Explorer's League
Sadistica Alliance
37
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:08:00 -
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Obunagawe wrote:Khador Vess wrote:
My 2p cut em some slack unless you have proof that this is a worthless change that gives the playerbase (not just you) absolutely nothing.... there are a lot of players out there who only have one account. I personally have multiple ac's however this change does not bother me in the slightest...
If it's groundwork for future changes then it should have been kept in beta until at least SOME of these "future changes" were ready. Given that they have released it with many bugs, and in a state which actually makes logging in a more click-intensive process than the old launcher, I believe any complaint is justified. It should never have been released in this state.
The hilarious part is, they're about to do the exact same thing with the new exploration in 2 days, which is supposed to be the main feature of this expansion. It is an incomplete buggy mess, and has received overwhelmingly negative feedback on the test server, yet they're basically just pushing it out as is so it can be "iterated on later". |
Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
356
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:09:00 -
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New launcher ha its faults but it is a great step forward.
With the AUTOPLAY checked i am starting my clients much much faster than i did before. t is substantially faster to launch now multiple accounts. As CCP stated downaloading bigger patches should be also faster and mroe stable.
SSO is really a must if u have multiple pages that you are visittng. Also SSO fused with steam, it is hell of a great thing.
Stop whining, bugs will get sorted.
The only thing i don't like and somebody already mentioned it is that the login animation and music will be gone. That really sucks. I don't really know why CCP made the music for Odyssey. It is a great piece but i really cba to go to soundcloud every time i want to open my client.
BALEX is recruiting -----> tinyurl.com/oscmmlv |
Azrael Dinn
The 20th Legion
Mildly Sober
116
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:10:00 -
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I ment that "not to use use the launcher at all work around" 
I did fix the the laucher twice already... it just fixes the launcher so it actualy does something it doesn't remove it  |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
396
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:17:00 -
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The new launcher is great, it just needs to save password then it will be complete. (and obviously not bring down the whole eve server) :) |
Shian Yang
267
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:11:00 -
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Khador Vess wrote:Rusty Scalpel wrote:Some stuff. Have you never had to do some work as groundwork for later changes... how about if this SSO was the thing that enables char swapping without signing out... does the perspective change then... I suspect SSO is just that... something that's needed for other features like crime watch was, like the POS iterations are... Do you know how much effort went into the changes? how many man hours... no you dont so you cant make any value/worth judgements based on the available information. I work as a SW Architect, and i Have worked as a developer again in the not so distant past... No company or Dev makes changes for the sake of it, it just doesnt happen or those that do dont survive 10+ years... My 2p cut em some slack unless you have proof that this is a worthless change that gives the playerbase (not just you) absolutely nothing.... there are a lot of players out there who only have one account. I personally have multiple ac's however this change does not bother me in the slightest...
Greetings capsuleer,
If you believe foisting a change that has no visible benefit with only a dreamed up potential future pay-off onto a consumer base when the changed feature has a set of drawbacks despite the fact they may not impact you personally is a good thing I pity whomever employs you as a software architect.
You probably designed Gallentean Drone Boats in your spare time. Or were you responsible for Vanilla Quafe?
Regards,
Capsuleer Yang |
Damasa Cloudwalker
Cloudwalker Enterprises
52
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:16:00 -
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LOL @ CCP, Since Retribution, most of the "features" they've added have been less than "useful".
For example:
Weapon safety: Safety? In a sandbox? need an option to disable and remove.
Sounds: Explosion still sound like car doors slamming, and the gate sounds are still "WoW-ish". needs an option to revert back to old EvE sounds, I've been playing without volume since the "new" sound update went in.
Launcher: doesn't retain account logins, so useless and serves no real purpose
For EVERY "feature" added, there should be a way to disable or remove that "feature", if desired. That's good for your business and good for the players. |
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FluffyDice
Kronos Research
566
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:21:00 -
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I only really saw the launcher on the day they changed it. I had the setting checked that it would launch eve then just close if it didn't need to patch. I suppose that won't work in the future though will it? |
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