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Wernher VonBrawn
Full Steam Space Machine
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:08:00 -
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Was the DDoS attack just some random kids wanting to DDoS something for teh lulz? Or was it something more sinister...
like North Korea! tryin' to steal EVE's advanced ship technology? |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate
S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1393
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:09:00 -
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Anonymous: "We r leejunz. We haf haqd ur spaecships. Resstnc is futiel k? Xpect uz."
Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
5114
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:10:00 -
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Someone just wanted more freely redistributable SP real bad? |
Verity Sovereign
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:14:00 -
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Wasn't there a big null sec battle just before the DDOS?
Naturally, that leads to speculation that one side meta-gamed and used DDOS to buy time to get more players/push the battle past the other side's peak time |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
791
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:15:00 -
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Verity Sovereign wrote:Wasn't there a big null sec battle just before the DDOS?
Naturally, that leads to speculation that one side meta-gamed and used DDOS to buy time to get more players/push the battle past the other side's peak time
that would be really dumb because just as last year's ddosers found out, there are consequences ... Bubba will have fresh jail meat soon
This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
752
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:16:00 -
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ib4 "Russkie botters got mad over teh banzors." |
THC Trader
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:22:00 -
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Honestly I'm not sure this information will be publicly released by CCP even if they do find out. They could be opening themselves up for legal troubles by doing so. Say they release names of who did it, and then someone were to attack that person IRL. I'd like to know as much as you, just for closure's sake, but I doubt we will find out any time soon, and if we do it will be from public court records most likely. |
Ronix Aideron
Shockwave Innovations
Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:24:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/tranquility-downtime-on-sunday-june-2-and-monday-june-3/
It was not a DDoS attack but someone or a group that was able to exploit a vulnerability to some back-end services.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ronix_Aideron |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
1953
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:31:00 -
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Wernher VonBrawn wrote:Was the DDoS attack just some random kids wanting to DDoS something for teh lulz? Or was it something more sinister...
like North Korea! tryin' to steal EVE's advanced ship technology?
I don't care who it was, they need to be found and punished to the fullest extent of the law, if for no other reason than the crime of making me expose myself the the cancer causing rays of that "Luminous sky-blob" (i've heard-tell it was something called "the sun") and forcing me to eat charred animal flesh (some primitive concoction know as bharr-bee-que or some such).
It's was barbaric...and delicious.
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Morrow Disca
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:32:00 -
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Verity Sovereign wrote:Wasn't there a big null sec battle just before the DDOS?
Confirming our Caracal vs Talwar battle brought down all of Eve. This site really needs a tinfoilhat emoticon.
https://twitter.com/SniggWaffe |
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Azrin Stella Oerndotte
The Nommo
Insurance Fraud.
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:41:00 -
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lulzec attacked eve two years ago I believe, together with PSN and a few other places-
They got into trouble for it, so this might not be too unrelated. The punishments align as well. |
Tenchi Sal
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:42:00 -
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More likely it was a RMT group up to there no-good tactics again. Seriously doubt it was any alliance. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
146
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:09:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:Verity Sovereign wrote:Wasn't there a big null sec battle just before the DDOS?
Naturally, that leads to speculation that one side meta-gamed and used DDOS to buy time to get more players/push the battle past the other side's peak time that would be really dumb because just as last year's ddosers found out, there are consequences ... Bubba will have fresh jail meat soon
Losing 2 Titans, I think they wouldn't care at this point. 
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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Q 5
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:10:00 -
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Ok here comes the pooper, I was reading comments made on the twitter and Facebook what was amazing was how so many were making comments close to threats.
Saying what should happen to the perpetrator(s) of said ddos attack, yes they should be prosecuted and fined and jailed, but to say stuff like I wish I could find them to do X is over the top, but I did admire how many kept their composure.
CCP is no more guilty for an idiot then any other entity when such a fool decides to poop on the floor.
In other news, my neck hurt because I had to actually move it up from the screen...ouch. |
Xylem Viliana
Protomonolithic
92
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:31:00 -
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Q 5 wrote:
BTW I lost 2 full jet cans of the Holy Veldspar I will now commence 1000 hail Marys.
Chribba gonna find you, His anger at wasted veld knows no limits.
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Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
421
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:35:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Wernher VonBrawn wrote:Was the DDoS attack just some random kids wanting to DDoS something for teh lulz? Or was it something more sinister...
like North Korea! tryin' to steal EVE's advanced ship technology? I don't care who it was, they need to be found and punished to the fullest extent of the law, if for no other reason than the crime of making me expose myself to the cancer causing rays of that "Luminous sky-blob" (i've heard-tell it was something called "the sun") and forcing me to participate in a neo-pagan ritual where I was forced to eat charred animal flesh (some primitive concoction know as bharr-bee-que or some such). It's was barbaric...and delicious.
I like those rituals. |
Atlas Durham
Questionable Ethics Committee
Extinction Level Event.
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:43:00 -
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Tenchi Sal wrote:More likely it was a RMT group up to there no-good tactics again. Seriously doubt it was any alliance.
I agree as they have a vested business interest. It's no secret that (effective) DDoS attacks involve both risk and resources, and last I checked, money and anger were prime motivators.
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smokess
Pagan Ascension
Caldari Munitions and Minerals
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:45:00 -
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I didn't notice because I was drunk all day after watching Muse play the Etihad in Manchester.
Btw...yes it was awesome. |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1544
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:49:00 -
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Ronix Aideron wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/tranquility-downtime-on-sunday-june-2-and-monday-june-3/
It was not a DDoS attack but someone or a group that was able to exploit a vulnerability to some back-end services.
It states in the first sentence it was a DDoS. The whole point of DDoS is to exploit a vulnerability to gain access.
CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it.
Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1849
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Posted - 2013.06.03 15:01:00 -
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Morrow Disca wrote:Verity Sovereign wrote:Wasn't there a big null sec battle just before the DDOS?
Confirming our Caracal vs Talwar battle brought down all of Eve. This site really needs a tinfoilhat emoticon.
There was a big TEST/CFC/NC fight in NOL-9 just as things were crashing. It got weird.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
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Haulie Berry
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Posted - 2013.06.03 15:02:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Ronix Aideron wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/tranquility-downtime-on-sunday-june-2-and-monday-june-3/
It was not a DDoS attack but someone or a group that was able to exploit a vulnerability to some back-end services. It states in the first sentence it was a DDoS. The whole point of DDoS is to exploit a vulnerability to gain access.
I... what?
No. The point of a denial of service attack is to... well, deny service. That's the whole point of the vast majority of them - to simply cause a service interruption by rendering the system unreachable. They don't, generally, allow the attacker to access the system.
The DDoS and the vulnerability here are almost certainly related and perpetrated by the same group or individual, but are two distinct attacks. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
Aegis Solaris
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Posted - 2013.06.03 15:12:00 -
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Maybe it was both. The DDOS attack was a smoke screen. While everyone was busy with that, the hack attempt would go unnoticed.
Except CCP was on the ball and noticed.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
FlamesOfHeaven
Phantom Fenix
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Posted - 2013.06.03 15:25:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Maybe it was both. The DDOS attack was a smoke screen. While everyone was busy with that, the hack attempt would go unnoticed.
Except CCP was on the ball and noticed.
This is what me and my peeps was talking about during the server downtime. Just wild guess from the limited info given to us from CCP. It was a good idea to pull the servers down and do a full analysis imo.
Better safe than sorry. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1849
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Posted - 2013.06.03 15:29:00 -
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FlamesOfHeaven wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:Maybe it was both. The DDOS attack was a smoke screen. While everyone was busy with that, the hack attempt would go unnoticed.
Except CCP was on the ball and noticed. This is what me and my peeps was talking about during the server downtime. Just wild guess from the limited info given to us from CCP. It was a good idea to pull the servers down and do a full analysis imo. Better safe than sorry.
Attempted backend services exploit... can you image what a powerful zombie the CCP cluster would make?
Is it possible the attack wasn't aimed at CCP, per se, but rather at gaining access to CCP's horsepower in aid of an attack on a third party?
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
924
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Posted - 2013.06.03 15:33:00 -
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Ronix Aideron wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/tranquility-downtime-on-sunday-june-2-and-monday-june-3/
It was not a DDoS attack but someone or a group that was able to exploit a vulnerability to some back-end services.
the first sentence states quite clearly that there was a ddos attack.
it's quite common to use a ddos in order to sneak by other malicious stuff - an IDS will often look for deviations from the statistical patterns of normal network traffic in order to spot intrusions (a ddos drowns out any meaningful patterns) or inspect individual packets (in which case a ddos might cause a poorly configured IDS to choke on all the traffic).
The attention of human staff is of course diverted as well while they are trying to deal with a ddos attack.
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Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research
Epsilon Fleet
347
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Posted - 2013.06.03 15:36:00 -
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It was a bunch of wow kids. They got mad that eve is growing.
An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2013.06.03 15:41:00 -
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Wernher VonBrawn wrote:Was the DDoS attack just some random kids wanting to DDoS something for teh lulz? Or was it something more sinister...
like North Korea! tryin' to steal EVE's advanced ship technology?
I don't care who's responsible.
What I care about is that my personal information wasn't stolen thanks to CCP being on the ball.
That can't be said for the big boys, including Blizzard and Sony. Any accts I have with them are fake info on throw away email addys thanks to their pathetic past performance.
At this point, CCP is the only one I trust to protect my privacy.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Haulie Berry
854
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Posted - 2013.06.03 15:42:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Haulie Berry wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:Ronix Aideron wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/tranquility-downtime-on-sunday-june-2-and-monday-june-3/
It was not a DDoS attack but someone or a group that was able to exploit a vulnerability to some back-end services. It states in the first sentence it was a DDoS. The whole point of DDoS is to exploit a vulnerability to gain access. I... what? No. The point of a denial of service attack is to... well, deny service. That's the whole point of the vast majority of them - to simply cause a service interruption by rendering the system unreachable. They don't, generally, allow the attacker to access the system. The DDoS and the vulnerability here are almost certainly related and perpetrated by the same group or individual, but are two distinct attacks. it's quite common to use a ddos in order to sneak by other malicious stuff - an IDS will often look for deviations from the statistical patterns of normal network traffic in order to spot intrusions (a ddos drowns out any meaningful patterns) or inspect individual packets (in which case a ddos might cause a poorly configured IDS to choke on all the traffic). The attention of human staff is of course diverted as well while they are trying to deal with a ddos attack (which will cause delays in them sorting through and reacting to automated reports on potential intrusions). the ddos is basically a massive smokescreen behind which the attacker is trying to hide his probing and/or intrusion.
Hence the last line of my post (it's almost like I put it there for a reason). That said, the fact that they get used that way sometimes definitely does not make it the entire point of a DDOS. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
5315
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Posted - 2013.06.03 15:46:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:FlamesOfHeaven wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:Maybe it was both. The DDOS attack was a smoke screen. While everyone was busy with that, the hack attempt would go unnoticed.
Except CCP was on the ball and noticed. This is what me and my peeps was talking about during the server downtime. Just wild guess from the limited info given to us from CCP. It was a good idea to pull the servers down and do a full analysis imo. Better safe than sorry. Attempted backend services exploit... can you image what a powerful zombie the CCP cluster would make? Is it possible the attack wasn't aimed at CCP, per se, but rather at gaining access to CCP's horsepower in aid of an attack on a third party?
There's probably a considerable number of server clusters accessible to varying degrees on the internet with equivalent or greater computing power.
-áMy (mostly boring) Youtube channel. |
FlamesOfHeaven
Phantom Fenix
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Posted - 2013.06.03 15:47:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:FlamesOfHeaven wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:Maybe it was both. The DDOS attack was a smoke screen. While everyone was busy with that, the hack attempt would go unnoticed.
Except CCP was on the ball and noticed. This is what me and my peeps was talking about during the server downtime. Just wild guess from the limited info given to us from CCP. It was a good idea to pull the servers down and do a full analysis imo. Better safe than sorry. Attempted backend services exploit... can you image what a powerful zombie the CCP cluster would make? Is it possible the attack wasn't aimed at CCP, per se, but rather at gaining access to CCP's horsepower in aid of an attack on a third party?
potentially
Nothing is impossible.
I am too, tempted to have my hands on that horsepower if it does get within my grasp. 
Must resist... |
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