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Paul Panala
Beyond the Shadows
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Posted - 2013.06.03 16:44:00 -
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Dual Training seems like a cool idea, but I see nothing about it supporting dual boxing? My question is, why not!? A Plex is worth 1 month of account time, both the SP you earn in that month and being able to play the game for a month. Using a Plex for dual-training only gives you the skill points, you have no additional ability to play the game beyond what you already had.
I know the simple answer people will give is "money." But, lets look at that...
The standard price for a Plex is $19.99. Yes, they go on sale sometimes, but even when you buy them in bulk and on sale, it is rare for the Plex price to ever go below $14.99.
The price to pay for one month on an account is $14.99. If you want it cheaper than that you can buy more than a month at a time, 12 months is $10.98 a month.
Using a Plex to pay for dual training then either costs MORE compared to a cash funded 2nd account or is the same when compared to a Plex funded 2nd account.
Why would I ever want to put a PLEX towards dual-training when I could apply that same plex to another account and get more capabilities?? I do not understand this at all.
In a nutshell, as long as dual training is running on an account, then you should be able to be logged in as both characters at the same time. It seems only fair.
Making this change means that CCP might actually make MORE money. Let's say your corp has a critical CTA, people with utility alts may be willing to Plex their alt accounts just to be able to dual box.
I do realize that there are a number of people who buy Plex with ISK, which is fine. I don't feel like that changes anything at all. Where you got your Plex doesn't matter. It is a Plex |
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
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Posted - 2013.06.03 16:50:00 -
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If you don't understand why you would want dual training then this feature isn't for you, and you should just have multiple accounts. -- |
Paul Panala
Beyond the Shadows
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Posted - 2013.06.03 16:52:00 -
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Who is the feature for then? I guess it would be useful for a manufacturing alt, only Plex them when you need new skills. It just seems like that would be a small subset. |
Sex Slave Girl
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.03 16:52:00 -
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The dual character training is so you can train your main and an alt on your same account.
I am certain that your future Jita Scam alt is training Margin Trading V while still training your main on your account, and that, thanks to the power of plex.
I can only imagine a small portion of the eve playerbase would do this, since all of us already have soo many accounts. |
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
196
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Posted - 2013.06.03 16:55:00 -
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Paul Panala wrote:Who is the feature for then? I guess it would be useful for a manufacturing alt, only Plex them when you need new skills. It just seems like that would be a small subset. That's what I'll be using it for. I would think there's quite a lot of demand for that. -- |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2013.06.03 16:55:00 -
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Paul Panala wrote:Who is the feature for then? I guess it would be useful for a manufacturing alt, only Plex them when you need new skills. It just seems like that would be a small subset.
Not as small as you might think. Builders, researchers, planetary interaction and cyno alts just off the top of my head.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.06.03 16:59:00 -
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OP, Please use the search function. This topic has been discussed to death. Why created another thread? Is it because you can not do a search? R.I.P. Vile Rat |
Capt Tenguru10
Nintendo Power Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2013.06.03 17:01:00 -
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as said above http://i.imgur.com/EYX5Zi7.gif |
Sentamon
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Posted - 2013.06.03 17:24:00 -
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Paul Panala wrote:Who is the feature for then? I guess it would be useful for a manufacturing alt, only Plex them when you need new skills. It just seems like that would be a small subset.
I can see you spent all of 3 minutes thinking this whole thing through. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Robert Saint
Playright
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:10:00 -
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Paul Panala wrote:Who is the feature for then? I guess it would be useful for a manufacturing alt, only Plex them when you need new skills. It just seems like that would be a small subset.
I have Miners and Battle bots on the same account.. I can't wait to train them up together .. It's a hassle having too many logins.
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Cage Man
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:27:00 -
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Paul Panala wrote:Who is the feature for then? I guess it would be useful for a manufacturing alt, only Plex them when you need new skills. It just seems like that would be a small subset.
I can bet thousands of pilots will be using this feature. I know I will on more than one account. This account has 3 toons on them one with 10mil sp, this one with 30ish and another with 40ish mil.. I for one think this is a great idea. If you not using all your alts on one account... then you not doing it right. Imagine having one account that lives in a wh, another in null and then just for fun a FW alt. This is what makes eve different and fun. And no I don't think I have wasted sp on alts.. my wallet tells me its not so
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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:36:00 -
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I think people miss the real value of the Dual box.
No, I don't need to use it to train up a PI Alt. That takes 2 weeks for both alts, getting them to 3 in all the PI skills and allowing me to have 8 additional planets.
A place to park my Titan? That takes a bit longer. Granted anyone who will ever be in one of those coffins already has a Titan parking alt and paid the 20 to import it to their primary account. CCP is a bit late on what might have been a solid feature. |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1598
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:41:00 -
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Paul Panala wrote:Who is the feature for then? I guess it would be useful for a manufacturing alt, only Plex them when you need new skills. It just seems like that would be a small subset.
You understand one possible use for it but since that isn't something you're interested in you don't see it being useful.....
Heres a question, WHY DO YOU CARE WHO ITS FOR? Its there, it'll be used by people who want it, and not by people who don't. I don't get why the fact that you're personally clueless was thread worthy.
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fuxinos
Acerbus Vindictum Training Wing Stealth Wear Inc.
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:48:00 -
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Honestly, ripoff = ripoff, no matter how you turn it around.
CCP should act according to decency, not to greed. Havent they learned yet out of their previous mistakes against decency??
How can someone be so blind and miss such an opportunity to make up for their past failures? |
Anti-social Tendencies
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:53:00 -
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Paul Panala wrote:Who is the feature for then? I guess it would be useful for a manufacturing alt, only Plex them when you need new skills. It just seems like that would be a small subset.
Your guess is right . Those that need more than one account just get another account. The dual training isn't even for training a new alt really, just adding skill to one alt without stopping training on another. I don't think it will be used a lot.
"Patience: n, a minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue." - AMBROSE PIERCE |
Onomerous
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:08:00 -
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fuxinos wrote:Honestly, ripoff = ripoff, no matter how you turn it around.
CCP should act according to decency, not to greed. Havent they learned yet out of their previous mistakes against decency??
How can someone be so blind and miss such an opportunity to make up for their past failures?
We're waiting for you to tell us how you're going to do it. ;)
I think Titans are a rip-off. I don't plan on getting one so EVE shouldn't have them. ripoff = ripoff no matter which way you turn it. |
Onomerous
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
106
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:09:00 -
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Anti-social Tendencies wrote:Paul Panala wrote:Who is the feature for then? I guess it would be useful for a manufacturing alt, only Plex them when you need new skills. It just seems like that would be a small subset. Your guess is right . Those that need more than one account just get another account. The dual training isn't even for training a new alt really, just adding skill to one alt without stopping training on another. I don't think it will be used a lot.
Only by people who think/play like you. For the rest of us, I know of plenty of peeps who will use it at least once. |
fuxinos
Acerbus Vindictum Training Wing Stealth Wear Inc.
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:12:00 -
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Onomerous wrote:Anti-social Tendencies wrote:Paul Panala wrote:Who is the feature for then? I guess it would be useful for a manufacturing alt, only Plex them when you need new skills. It just seems like that would be a small subset. Your guess is right . Those that need more than one account just get another account. The dual training isn't even for training a new alt really, just adding skill to one alt without stopping training on another. I don't think it will be used a lot. Only by people who think/play like you. For the rest of us, I know of plenty of peeps who will use it at least once.
Just because plenty of people murdered others doesnt actualy legalize it either... |
Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:17:00 -
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Be a good way for people to make a cheap pvp alt to throw in RvB or FW. You can make a decent enough frigate pilot in 30 days to easily have some fun and learn pvp skills while not having to worry about your main characters killboard. |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1057
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:25:00 -
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Ydnari wrote:If you don't understand why you would want dual training then this feature isn't for you, and you should just have multiple accounts.
this There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |
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