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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:39:00 -
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I paid for 30 days of service, I would like 30 days of service. No SP necessary. Just what I paid for. +1 if you agree. Cry if you don't.
From: Tommas De'Wins
To: Cipher Jones
Dude :) I got massives Basi hahahahahahaha |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
421
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:40:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:I paid for 30 days of service, I would like 30 days of service. No SP necessary. Just what I paid for. +1 if you agree. Cry if you don't.
No warranties.
Better luck next time.
Insert a coin for another chance. |
Sentamon
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:41:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:I paid for 30 days of service, I would like 30 days of service. No SP necessary. Just what I paid for. +1 if you agree. Cry if you don't.
I'll chip in to buy you a pacifier.
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Karean Frintezaa
Kinky Wizards
5
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:43:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:I paid for 30 days of service, I would like 30 days of service. No SP necessary. Just what I paid for. +1 if you agree. Cry if you don't. No warranties. Better luck next time. Insert a coin for another chance.
Your will be inserting all your coins one day, when you lose something valuable to you.
People usually are smart when they are on "top", but the wind changes, one day its me eventually your turn will come.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:44:00 -
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C'mon Cipher, you're old enough to know better than to start a thread like this one.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Xander Karsoth
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:46:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:I paid for 30 days of service, I would like 30 days of service. No SP necessary. Just what I paid for. +1 if you agree. Cry if you don't.
Why are people like you multiplying? |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
422
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:48:00 -
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Karean Frintezaa wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:I paid for 30 days of service, I would like 30 days of service. No SP necessary. Just what I paid for. +1 if you agree. Cry if you don't. No warranties. Better luck next time. Insert a coin for another chance. Your will be inserting all your coins one day, when you lose something valuable to you. People usually are smart when they are on "top", but the wind changes, one day its me eventually your turn will come.
Nah. Having lost stuff already, I have understood corporation will follow thier own rules so you might as well read them and make sure you understand what is at stake all the time. In this case, game time in a MMO. Losing EVE for one day is srs bznss... |
Aldebaran Aubaris
Free-lances
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:49:00 -
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I bet you're the type that doesn't tip your cab driver either.
EDIT: Perhaps they should retroactively charge for 19+ updates. |
Miss MaxxJaxX
Royal Dutch Secret Service
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:55:00 -
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Call 911!! Someone has a booboo!!!
I'm afraid reality is a little bit different. Some things are simply beyond control, that's life.
Also, when we protest as a community, CCP is willing to comply. That's not very common for companies in today's world. The respectfull thing to do for us as a community is back CCP all the way in this, whatever happens.
An attack like this can have a few reasons. One is to try and steal money somehow and another is to destroy a company from its base and the community around it because of butthurt feelings. When CCP makes sure they can't get any payment details and steal money from us, we can also stand together and behind CCP on this making sure that stays as one too. It means the attackers will loose anyway, regardless what they have planned.
+ 1 huge middle finger towards the attacker. |
Aldebaran Aubaris
Free-lances
0
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:00:00 -
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Miss MaxxJaxX wrote:Call 911!! Someone has a booboo!!!
I'm afraid reality is a little bit different. Some things are simply beyond control, that's life.
Also, when we protest as a community, CCP is willing to comply. That's not very common for companies in today's world. The respectfull thing to do for us as a community is back CCP all the way in this, whatever happens.
An attack like this can have a few reasons. One is to try and steal money somehow and another is to destroy a company from its base and the community around it because of butthurt feelings. When CCP makes sure they can't get any payment details and steal money from us, we can also stand together and behind CCP on this making sure that stays as one too. It means the attackers will loose anyway, regardless what they have planned.
+ 1 huge middle finger towards the attacker.
My gut keeps nagging me that it is a corporate war funded thing.
example scenario: "Blizzard" pays N. Korea to initiate attack. |
Abus Finkel
Caldari Capital Construction Inc.
11
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:02:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:I paid for 30 days of service, I would like 30 days of service. No SP necessary. Just what I paid for. +1 if you agree. Cry if you don't.
Here's a free tip for you; If you don't agree with the terms of service, don't start playing.
CCP does not guarantee 100% uptime. No MMO provider does. |
Officer Nyota Uhura
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:04:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:I paid for 30 days of service, I would like 30 days of service. No SP necessary. Just what I paid for. +1 if you agree. Cry if you don't.
Had a long break, came to see forums, saw tears, never disappoint.
Boo hoo did someone take your game away from you? Worry not, momma's gonna get it back to you. |
Pierrot-LeFou
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:06:00 -
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Aldebaran Aubaris wrote:Miss MaxxJaxX wrote:Call 911!! Someone has a booboo!!!
I'm afraid reality is a little bit different. Some things are simply beyond control, that's life.
Also, when we protest as a community, CCP is willing to comply. That's not very common for companies in today's world. The respectfull thing to do for us as a community is back CCP all the way in this, whatever happens.
An attack like this can have a few reasons. One is to try and steal money somehow and another is to destroy a company from its base and the community around it because of butthurt feelings. When CCP makes sure they can't get any payment details and steal money from us, we can also stand together and behind CCP on this making sure that stays as one too. It means the attackers will loose anyway, regardless what they have planned.
+ 1 huge middle finger towards the attacker. My gut keeps nagging me that it is a corporate war funded thing. example scenario: "Blizzard" pays N. Korea to initiate attack.
That is a stylish tinfoil hat you have there sir. |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Coldest Sea Sailing
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:06:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:I paid for 30 days of service, I would like 30 days of service. No SP necessary. Just what I paid for. +1 if you agree. Cry if you don't.
Thought the EULA we all agree to when playing this game says service is not absolutely guaranteed at all times specifically to cover just what you are doing now?
I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |
Paul Panala
Beyond the Shadows
13
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:15:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:I paid for 30 days of service, I would like 30 days of service. No SP necessary. Just what I paid for. +1 if you agree. Cry if you don't.
You realize this is a game...you don't have a 99.999% uptime SLA, stop fussing. The fact is the outage did happen and now all that is worth talking about is what CCP will do to compensate players.
Assuming you pay $14.99 USD for a month of game time, then this outage represents about 75-ó of game time. Are you really going to cry over less than a dollar? Would extending your playing time by that tiny amount really make it better? You would get the 30 days you paid for, but come on, that isn't going to make anyone happy!!
Giving skill points might not exactly be tit-for-tat, but it is a way CCP can give something to players that will actually make them feel better. Their goal is to keep us happy, but they can't change history.
This outage happened over a weekend, which is prime playing time, so I suspect CCP will be generous with the skill points...if that is the route they take. 400,000 free SP seems about right to me (about 1 week with typical implants and mapping). |
Noriko Mai
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:34:00 -
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OP should get forum ban. Like if you agree or post something below if you agree. |
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:36:00 -
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As Trinity says in The Matrix....
"GOD D@MN YOU CIPHER"
Not today spaghetti. |
Ireland VonVicious
Vendetta Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:38:00 -
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Not a single like as of this post.
A good bit of crying.
FUNNY! |
Noriko Mai
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:50:00 -
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One like and two post for me. Thats 0:3. OP should learn to do it right  |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
654
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:09:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:One like and two post for me. Thats 0:3. OP should learn to do it right
I did do it right. Asked for tears and got em.
If you're on the eve forums for likes you completely fail at life.
From: Tommas De'Wins
To: Cipher Jones
Dude :) I got massives Basi hahahahahahaha |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
2195
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:20:00 -
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I agree with the OP. Shifting subs by two days is only fair, seeing as how this issue affected everyone, and not just a few select people. Whether CCP reimburses skill points is entirely up to them, but they're pretty much obligated to reimburse people for time, seeing as how people pay x amount of money for thirty days of play time.
The whole "wasn't CCP's fault" argument doesn't really stand here either. So what if it's not their fault? As an internet company, dealing with attacks is part of their business. You know, if you had an agreement with a catering company to deliver sandwiches to your house every day, and one day they didn't do it because the bread truck exploded before making it to their kitchen, they wouldn't keep the money.
Even Sony credited people time for a day of downtime after PS2 launched.
I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2824
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:21:00 -
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Did somebody call the Whaaaaaaaaambulance?
I guess being forced to go out and have a life for a while must have hurt some people. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
654
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:32:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Did somebody call the Whaaaaaaaaambulance?
I guess being forced to go out and have a life for a while must have hurt some people.
Quote:If they pay a penie or two pence more for the reddinesse of them..let them looke to that, a foole and his money is soone parted.
From: Tommas De'Wins
To: Cipher Jones
Dude :) I got massives Basi hahahahahahaha |
Anti-social Tendencies
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:36:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:I paid for 30 days of service, I would like 30 days of service. No SP necessary. Just what I paid for. +1 if you agree. Cry if you don't.
Hm.... let's see....
I have 4 accounts. I pay for all the accounts with RLM since I'm an adult and have responsibilities that keep me from grinding for Plex. Unlike you, I'm not whining about losing a couple of days of playing time. Yeah, it is disappointing but I actually have a life outside of EVE, so I can deal with it.
YMMV of course.
"Patience: n, a minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue." - AMBROSE PIERCE |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
2195
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:45:00 -
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Whether you want to be compensated or not has no bearing on if compensation should be offered.
The Stockholm syndrome is strong with this community. Judging from the responses in these threads, it's fairly easy to see just how many people are content to be the "good citizens" and give up their consumer rights for just a little bit of recognition from their masters, or to be safe from potential "retribution" by the true owners of their accounts.
Sheeple.
I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Tribal Band
681
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:22:00 -
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Noone may have posted the info you need.
EULA (the thing you click accept/agree o to play eve at all)
Clause 11
you need to read it. |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
2196
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:27:00 -
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Nothing in the EULA precludes you as a consumer from receiving the services you paid for, or from being compensated or refunded if those services aren't provided in a reasonable manner. Indeed, if such a clause existed, it would be null and void in pretty much every nation whose name doesn't begin with the words "Democratic Republic of".
I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted |
Agent Known
Tech IV Industries
15
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:31:00 -
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Honestly I don't understand why people are upset. Not like there was anything CCP could do about it. A DDoS is, by design, something that can't be shrugged off and everything works as normal. CCP did the right thing by taking the cluster down and ensuring that the DDoS wasn't a guise for something else (like the vuln. they discovered). |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
2196
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:37:00 -
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Agent Known wrote:Honestly I don't understand why people are upset. Not like there was anything CCP could do about it. A DDoS is, by design, something that can't be shrugged off and everything works as normal. CCP did the right thing by taking the cluster down and ensuring that the DDoS wasn't a guise for something else (like the vuln. they discovered).
That's fine, but the onus is still on CCP to prevent this sort of thing from happening, not on the users to deal with it when it does. At least when an exchange of money for a provided service takes place.
I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Tribal Band
681
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:38:00 -
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nope ... its exactly the same type of service provided to cable internet subscribers
i.e. you pay them for 'up to' 50mb of bandwidth. the key part of your deal with them is the 'up to'
it does not mean that you will receive 50mb of bandwidth
you can get anything from 250kb to just 20mb
and you have to deal with it, and accept it
it is not a product in the same vein as a bottle of cola @ 1 litre where you get exactly 1 litre, and then can legitimately ***** & whine if its only got 995ml in it.
CCP provide an 'up to' server access system.
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