"Test Alliance Please Ignore"

Stopped reading here.

You're probably better off not flying Command Ships anyway, you'd only lose it in Delve.

What's funny is that even after 10 years people still don't understand how EVE's skill system works.

But it still looks like a bug for me that beeing able to fly a ship without the requirements ^^

He would need leadership skills in order to inject the Command Ships skillbook.
He needs the Command Ships skill trained in order to fly the Astarte.
He doesn't need the leadership skills in order to fly the Astarte.

Since he had already injected the skillbook pre-Odyssey he can still fly the Astarte. If the Command Ships skillbook was magically removed from his head he would have to train 43 days of leadership skills before being able to reinject it (and fly an Astarte again). Working as intended.

This looks like a good thread to reply to and update.

I fly an Orca and the "Ore Industrial" was added to the required skills for the Orca as level 3, this expansion. I am able To get in my ship and undock it. So, seem to work, but s bit nerve racking when you are now missing a skill to fly a ship that you spent months training to fly.

My other 2 toons are in that same boat with their mining ships as I have neve had the need for a venture. Now that is skill (Mining frigate) a required skill for the exhumers, I have to stop my other training to true all this up.

Sorry CCP, but if you follow the rules of "can fly before, can still fly" you really should have added those skills to true up the pre-reqs for the ships, instead of flagging the pilots to fly them. I have no reason to skill the new required skills, besides truing up the the pre-reqs I had already completed for flying the ships I have. Now you are wasting my skill time, which in this game, is rather important.

Beyond that, I'm fairly ok with the new changes and love the new graphics. Which is what keeps me playing the game.

-Mak

This looks like a good thread to reply to and update.

I fly an Orca and the "Ore Industrial" was added to the required skills for the Orca as level 3, this expansion. I am able To get in my ship and undock it. So, seem to work, but s bit nerve racking when you are now missing a skill to fly a ship that you spent months training to fly.

My other 2 toons are in that same boat with their mining ships as I have neve had the need for a venture. Now that is skill (Mining frigate) a required skill for the exhumers, I have to stop my other training to true all this up.

Sorry CCP, but if you follow the rules of "can fly before, can still fly" you really should have added those skills to true up the pre-reqs for the ships, instead of flagging the pilots to fly them. I have no reason to skill the new required skills, besides truing up the the pre-reqs I had already completed for flying the ships I have. Now you are wasting my skill time, which in this game, is rather important.

Beyond that, I'm fairly ok with the new changes and love the new graphics. Which is what keeps me playing the game.

-Mak

No. I would benefit from that suggestion but I'm against it. CCP only promised we could still fly it. No need for free skills or SP.

Wait, it's nerve racking because you can still fly the ship you could before patch? Is the little yellow circle really causing you so much psychological distress that you are thinking about quitting? JFC

You want free skills. Simple as that. Don't try and sugar coat it under some bs like this, just come out and say it. You still won't get what you want but at least you will be honest about it.

you can still fly it ...
if you want help then use the 50k of free skill points you had for the outages at the weekend...