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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Tholarim on 07/11/2005 14:14:50
Originally by: Cartiff KIATolon, are you counting all losses or just NBSI. Also where do your numbers start from, our numbers start from when the empire wars started. Thus our numbers may be different.
7 losses missing, thats not bad if we're talking the same time frame. Lunas is our killboard ***** who keeps em accurate, so I'll moan at him for the missing 7.
Check your dates on your numbers [5] as i doubt our killboards are missing over 200 loses since the war started.
there are alot of bs killmails missing on your board, for example the guy that lost 3 eagles in 1 day, sas bs losses, etc etc. I ain't saying ours is always a 100 % accurate either, but if u use a percentage like that it's not even close to being accurate.
I think lunas hasn't been keeping it accurate for quite a while 
and yes that's after the war started.
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:16:00 -
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tell ya what, when i get a spare minute I'll look at the [5] killboard, (if its seperated for each alliance) and take your kills, and our kills from our board and have a look see.
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NUBSIES 4TW
"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:17:00 -
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argh, yours aren't seperated, and I#m buggered if I'm going through all the pages to find NBSI only losses.
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NUBSIES 4TW
"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Obidios
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Cartiff argh, yours aren't seperated, and I#m buggered if I'm going through all the pages to find NBSI only losses.
You can click on the corps in your alliance for that... Clicking on the alliance dont work :/ -----------------
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:19:00 -
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Ah come on guys, take the killboard discussions to yer own forums, we all know its a simple case of contact people directly with kills/losses that are missing and stop trying to bring stuff here to score points if you find stuff missing.
Accuracy is good but 100% accuracy is hard to obtain.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Trooper B99 Ah come on guys, take the killboard discussions to yer own forums, we all know its a simple case of contact people directly with kills/losses that are missing and stop trying to bring stuff here to score points if you find stuff missing.
Accuracy is good but 100% accuracy is hard to obtain.
like i said trooper, but bringing numbers to the forums and saying, look we're doing good, while that number isn't accurate is just not smart. I never claimed ours to be 100 % accurate. IT is however quite close to that. Since we spank ppl who don't post em. But in the end looking at kills only for each kb is the most accurate imo.
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: super4lt lol only n00bs and mercs fight in empire. Do you really need an alt to tell you that?
super4lt's post is not up to super4lt's usual high standard.
It's also full of crap. ____________________________________________
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:30:00 -
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Quote: like i said trooper, but bringing numbers to the forums and saying, look we're doing good, while that number isn't accurate is just not smart. I never claimed ours to be 100 % accurate. IT is however quite close to that. Since we spank ppl who don't post em. But in the end looking at kills only for each kb is the most accurate imo.
Agreed Thol - something I think everyone gets down on people about is making sure all the damn kills and losses were posted.
Ach well, someone always brings up the numbers and accuracy of killboards eh? MC-speaking, any corrections we find we'll post on the five board, not here of/c, we expect the same if any MC losses are missing on our boards as well.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:39:00 -
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Cartiff, if you click on search, then you can search for your alliance.
Our killboard is (or will shortly be) ONLY showing kills after the beginning of the war, so it will be pretty easy then :)
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:45:00 -
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Didnt Five talk about a 50-to-1 kill ratio the first week. Makes you wonder if they even bothered to post any losses at all 
Besides, anyone can duplicate kill mails. And if Five dont post their loses, maybe some of their "contructive" members post the same kills several times as well. For some reason, they seem obsessed about the kill ratio, as if that would actually mean anything.
I have also seen Five pilots fiering at innocents before they go down, so that concord gets the kill instead of the enemies, which means maybe 20 involved kills is lost (no killmail). I guess thats one way to make the killboard looks nicer.
Its a pity CCP cant have a real killboard, that auto-updates whenever there is a PvP kill in the game. That would be the only way to see the true kill ratio.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle Didnt Five talk about a 50-to-1 kill ratio the first week. Makes you wonder if they even bothered to post any losses at all 
Besides, anyone can duplicate kill mails. And if Five dont post their loses, maybe some of their "contructive" members post the same kills several times as well. For some reason, they seem obsessed about the kill ratio, as if that would actually mean anything.
I have also seen Five pilots fiering at innocents before they go down, so that concord gets the kill instead of the enemies, which means maybe 20 involved kills is lost (no killmail). I guess thats one way to make the killboard looks nicer.
Its a pity CCP cant have a real killboard, that auto-updates whenever there is a PvP kill in the game. That would be the only way to see the true kill ratio.
lmao, a true tribute to your alliance you are 
/forum ***** mode off! cya
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Tholarim lmao, a true tribute to your alliance you are 
/forum ***** mode off! cya
Yea, because targeting and fiering on innocents in Empire to make sure enemies dont get any killmail is a tactic you guys have to be so proud of 
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Fire Hawk
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Cartiff I still don't understand why [5] smack us soo much, its really random
NUBSIES, i like it
No one smack you as far as i did read. In fact, not a lot of ppl really care NBSI  _______________________________________________________ ATUK French Wing - Fear the french touch |

Fire Hawk
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Trooper B99 Ah come on guys, take the killboard discussions to yer own forums, we all know its a simple case of contact people directly with kills/losses that are missing and stop trying to bring stuff here to score points if you find stuff missing.
Accuracy is good but 100% accuracy is hard to obtain.
like i said trooper, but bringing numbers to the forums and saying, look we're doing good, while that number isn't accurate is just not smart. I never claimed ours to be 100 % accurate. IT is however quite close to that. Since we spank ppl who don't post em. But in the end looking at kills only for each kb is the most accurate imo.
I spent 2 hours last week comparing kill/losses of many KB's and ATUK one during September and October. NBSI is not accurate, I confirm, it misses like 2/3 of real losses. Ours is not accurate too but we miss only 1/5 loss.
The most inaccurate is Red Alliance one witch miss about 9/10 only comparing with ATUK one, it seems they got a lot of pilots that never post losses, but some are very serious and posted all lossmails. Didnt checked Five one, too much missing lines to count them.
I encourage ppl to check what i say to stop those loosy discusions. I have an idea to solve all that, but will not have the time until fall of month to code it. _______________________________________________________ ATUK French Wing - Fear the french touch |

Fire Hawk
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
Originally by: Tholarim lmao, a true tribute to your alliance you are 
/forum ***** mode off! cya
Yea, because targeting and fiering on innocents in Empire to make sure enemies dont get any killmail is a tactic you guys have to be so proud of 
you drink too much milk _______________________________________________________ ATUK French Wing - Fear the french touch |

Omeega
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Posted - 2005.11.08 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
Originally by: Tholarim lmao, a true tribute to your alliance you are 
/forum ***** mode off! cya
Yea, because targeting and fiering on innocents in Empire to make sure enemies dont get any killmail is a tactic you guys have to be so proud of 
you drink too much milk
you are stepping on your e-peen
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.08 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Tholarim there are alot of bs killmails missing on your board, for example the guy that lost 3 eagles in 1 day, sas bs losses, etc etc. I ain't saying ours is always a 100 % accurate either, but if u use a percentage like that it's not even close to being accurate.
I think lunas hasn't been keeping it accurate for quite a while 
and yes that's after the war started.
Missing BS losses have been posted. It should be accurate on bs for us atleast. There where two losses by brigitte that wasn't added becus we hadn't started posting on nbsi at that point. It should be on eve-extra board though.
See this as an official request to verify your own bs losses. I don't appresiate it when it's pointed out our losses and you don't take the time to post your own. I take somewhat pride in our kill/loss ratio and I don't like it being disputed by claims of inaccurasy. I looked trough every hostile board and we don't have any missing losses bs wise. I'll ***** at the boys to look trough their mails. They will hate me for it. But either we post or we don't. Half messures doesn't serve any point imho.
SoonÖ
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.11.08 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
Originally by: Tholarim lmao, a true tribute to your alliance you are 
/forum ***** mode off! cya
Yea, because targeting and fiering on innocents in Empire to make sure enemies dont get any killmail is a tactic you guys have to be so proud of 
you drink too much milk
you are stepping on your e-peen
Constructive comment
Perhaps you should log you alt on and weave some more of your altastic posts.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.08 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Fire Hawk
NBSI is not accurate, I confirm, it misses like 2/3 of real losses.
Now come ann. Please. 2/3 or real losses? Be kind to an old man. But feel free to mail lunas the mails. (no need to thank me lunas, your welcome) :P
I was about to say before I read this, the board was 95% accurate. But I don't think so anymore. Who knows what it is now. Blah. I'm going to be so hated after I'm done *****ing about this. SoonÖ
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.11.08 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Trooper B99 Ah come on guys, take the killboard discussions to yer own forums, we all know its a simple case of contact people directly with kills/losses that are missing and stop trying to bring stuff here to score points if you find stuff missing.
Accuracy is good but 100% accuracy is hard to obtain.
like i said trooper, but bringing numbers to the forums and saying, look we're doing good, while that number isn't accurate is just not smart. I never claimed ours to be 100 % accurate. IT is however quite close to that. Since we spank ppl who don't post em. But in the end looking at kills only for each kb is the most accurate imo.
Actually Tholarim is right. KB discussion is pointless. The fact of the matter is that none of the killboards are 100% accurate. The simple reason being that 100% accuracy is simply not possible unless someone makes it a 24/7 job. This war is getting along pretty friendly until this killboard discussion came up.
I say killboard discussions are for noobs and people who need to get a life. The victor is not the one who killed the most but the one who's left standing when the dust clears.
Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.08 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
I say killboard discussions are for noobs and people who need to get a life.
Hey!!! I resent that.. I don't "need" to get a life. I chose not to. The noob pard I don't mind so much. We all know that one is true anyway.  SoonÖ
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.11.08 14:27:00 -
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Edited by: KIATolon on 08/11/2005 14:27:55
Quote: I say killboard discussions are for noobs and people who need to get a life. The victor is not the one who killed the most but the one who's left standing when the dust clears.
And I say nobody cares what you say.
In your mind the winner is those "left standing" in our mind it is the person that kills the most.
We're not a territorial alliance anymore, therefore we measure success by kills not by territory lost and won. The fact there are inaccuracies in our killboard makes that difficult so we try and rectify the situation.
There may never be a winner to this war, because we both have different objectives.
Quote: best way to solve d problem imo is to take d kills from a hostile alliance killboard as ur losses and ur kills as their losses cuz the kills are very accurate. everyone posts kills so just compare the kills and u'll know who lost more. now get to work
That is what I did, and that's what gave us the 287 losses and 600 kills against NBSI.
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SWAT Kat
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Posted - 2005.11.08 14:27:00 -
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best way to solve d problem imo is to take d kills from a hostile alliance killboard as ur losses and ur kills as their losses cuz the kills are very accurate. everyone posts kills so just compare the kills and u'll know who lost more. now get to work 
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.11.08 15:00:00 -
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/emote looks at lunas, if this is true, then your gonna get a slap.
This since the empire wars were declared or are you also counting past kills
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NUBSIES 4TW
"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2005.11.08 15:25:00 -
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Edited by: Metal Dude on 08/11/2005 15:25:59
Originally by: Cartiff /emote looks at lunas, if this is true, then your gonna get a slap.
This since the empire wars were declared or are you also counting past kills
No need to worry about the numbers too much. We are having fun and that's what makes us all winners.
The truth will set you free
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getoverhere
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Posted - 2005.11.08 16:12:00 -
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Will you lot get back to bloody work and stop posting! I can't concentrate 
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2005.11.08 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: getoverhere Will you lot get back to bloody work and stop posting! I can't concentrate 
Here, I will help.
Locked for trolling/offtopic.
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