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Ziom Luna
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Posted - 2005.11.03 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: Ziom Luna on 03/11/2005 16:29:34
Just wondering if anyone knows if, or how often, a Freighter or Dreadnought is lost.
I see a problem for manufacturers of capital ships if the kill ratio is low to non-existant. All other types of ships are lost daily so there's always a demand for them, but if capital ships are too uber to lose (at least on a weekly basis) then the market for them won't take too long to get saturated.
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.11.03 16:31:00 -
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A few dreads have been lost (I can think of 4 off the top of my head, but I'm sure there's a lot more) and considerably more freighters have died as well.
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Primus Oberon
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Posted - 2005.11.03 16:35:00 -
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It'd be interesting to know just how many ships and what types of ships are lost every week. Maybe something CCP can look into implementing somewhere down the line (if it'd only take a simple database query to provide the stats).
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markol
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Posted - 2005.11.03 16:37:00 -
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I would think that there are so many ships destroyed every single day. My guess is in the hundreds if not thousands. This would be one massive db querry. Then again, you could just gather up all the killmails and parse them.
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Mercade
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Posted - 2005.11.03 16:47:00 -
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You would be suprised what the devs can fish out for data.
Wasn't long ago they showed how many of each module type were fitted etc. I realize ships lost is not a active but storage database search but I'd be suprised if considering their popularity only in last month or two we weren't able to find out roughly how many.
Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Abdalion
But but but....Bald is beautiful!
It sure is. Wait... what are we talking about here? Nevermind.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.03 16:50:00 -
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I have heard of at least 4 being destroyed, but I'm guessing at least a few more have been blown up. - Proud member of the [23].
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HairyGary
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Posted - 2005.11.03 16:52:00 -
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Quote: I would think that there are so many ships destroyed every single day. My guess is in the hundreds if not thousands. This would be one massive db querry.
Not...really.
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Ziom Luna
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Posted - 2005.11.03 16:58:00 -
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I understand Dreadnoughts being lost now and then since they're essentially large battle ships, but Freighters? I doubt many Freighter get destroyed each week since my guess is 99% do nothing but plough the safe trade routes through empire space. And anyone using them out in 0.0 will probably have escorting ships and scouts to help protect their billion isk investment.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.11.03 17:01:00 -
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Ah, but Freighters aren't Capital Ships. The only CSes in the game are Dreads. But a fair number of Freighters have also been destroyed.
Sig modified due to xenophobic comments -Iacon
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Hoshi
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Posted - 2005.11.03 17:01:00 -
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Edited by: Hoshi on 03/11/2005 17:03:15
Originally by: markol I would think that there are so many ships destroyed every single day. My guess is in the hundreds if not thousands. This would be one massive db querry. Then again, you could just gather up all the killmails and parse them.
Just press f10, right click, choose "display settings", Choose the "stars" tab and finaly "Ships destroyed in the last 24 hours.
Now you will see for every system in eve how many ship where lost there in the last day. If you want the total you just have to start counting :) You can even get stats of how many npc ships where destroyed as well.
Edit: if you do it right now you will see a large deb blob up in branch, where a fleet battle there yesterday, 134 ships lost.
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CmdrRat
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Posted - 2005.11.03 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog Ah, but Freighters aren't Capital Ships. The only CSes in the game are Dreads.
I thought Freighters took Capital Ship parts?
and the Capital ship skills. _ ____ _______ _________________________________________________________
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Cherokee Fabry
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Posted - 2005.11.03 17:07:00 -
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well, freighter are "essentially" big industrials ... and indy usually get killed too
About the 0.0 thing : never heard about corp/alliance wars ? u can kill EVEN in 1.0 |
Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.03 17:10:00 -
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And I'd guess more freighters have been killed than dreadnoughts. - Proud member of the [23].
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Jorge Kamzell
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Posted - 2005.11.03 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi
Just press f10, right click, choose "display settings", Choose the "stars" tab and finaly "Ships destroyed in the last 24 hours.
Now you will see for every system in eve how many ship where lost there in the last day. If you want the total you just have to start counting :)
Thats a good point. So the code is already there to keep track of the number of ships destroyed in each system? Surely it wouldn't take much effort for the devs to give us a grand total for the whole galaxy and put those stats on the map too (along with the types of ships destroyed while you're at it devs! ).
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.11.03 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: CmdrRat
Originally by: F'nog Ah, but Freighters aren't Capital Ships. The only CSes in the game are Dreads.
I thought Freighters took Capital Ship parts?
and the Capital ship skills.
they take the parts, but not the skill. Freighters only require racial freighter and ASC. I'm going with CSes requiring the CS skill, but you could just as easily categorize them as CSes since they use the parts, I suppose.
Sig modified due to xenophobic comments -Iacon
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2005.11.03 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jorge Kamzell
Originally by: Hoshi
Just press f10, right click, choose "display settings", Choose the "stars" tab and finaly "Ships destroyed in the last 24 hours.
Now you will see for every system in eve how many ship where lost there in the last day. If you want the total you just have to start counting :)
Thats a good point. So the code is already there to keep track of the number of ships destroyed in each system? Surely it wouldn't take much effort for the devs to give us a grand total for the whole galaxy and put those stats on the map too (along with the types of ships destroyed while you're at it devs! ).
Back when castor hit and the NPC's became stronger, CCP got great kicks out of seeing the stats for battleships lost to NPCs. I call it "the great weeding", because so many undeserving people lost their damn mining battleships.
I suspect the same will happen in RMR, although to a lesser extent. ---
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.11.04 04:42:00 -
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Originally by: HairyGary
Quote: I would think that there are so many ships destroyed every single day. My guess is in the hundreds if not thousands. This would be one massive db querry.
Not...really.
what you don't think thousands of NPC rats die everyday?
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Ander
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Posted - 2005.11.04 05:25:00 -
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Well, one dread has been stolen now :) Cant count it as destroyed... but still :P
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