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Crexa
Ion Industrials
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Posted - 2013.06.04 16:12:00 -
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Why did you move the undock arrow!! Can we get it back in its "rightful" spot? Why change something that is and has been the same for as long as I've played eve (I guess it was broken). Its like Microsoft removing the START in Windows!!!
I would be satisfied with an OPTION to put it in the lower left, just like re-arranging icons.
Some of us are left handed, not that righties shouldn't be upset too.
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
Amarrian Commandos
1022
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Posted - 2013.06.04 16:13:00 -
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Crexa wrote:Its like Microsoft removing the START in Windows!!!
If you think that would be madness, dont buy windows 8 lololol
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Cassell Darkborn
Ahrendee Mercenaries
0
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Posted - 2013.06.04 16:14:00 -
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Microsoft actually completely obliterated the start button in Windows 8. |
Crexa
Ion Industrials
51
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Posted - 2013.06.04 16:16:00 -
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Cassell Darkborn wrote:Microsoft actually completely obliterated the start button in Windows 8.
And now in a "mea culpa", are adding it back.
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Rose Hips
Zero Dot Zero
353
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Posted - 2013.06.04 16:19:00 -
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No
Get used to it
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WickedSP00N
Anoikis Vergence
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 05:03:00 -
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I honestly don't see how they could overlook this, didn't someone in the office mention or even cross their mind? EVERYTIME I want to undock since the update I have clicked at the nothing space in the Neocom where the undock button used to be. And being able to turn off that auto-scan on every jump-land would be nice. |
Aramatheia
European Nuthouse
108
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Posted - 2013.06.05 05:09:00 -
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im sure the undock button is something that ppl will get used to over time, but after nearly 2 years of clicking the bottom left corner itsa constant "uhhh where is the... oh there" every time i want to undock now.
I want to know why the undock was moved, what technical or user benefit was there thats going to make the game that much better and more engaging by moving it to the absolute opposite of its prior location?
also just a personal note/whine, i dont approve of having to effectively mouse over the enter cq button everytime i want to undock. If the undock MUST go in the top right now, at least have it on the left side. I HATE the cq esp as i have all cq settings as low as i can so it has zero appeal |
Solutio Letum
Terpene Conglomerate
117
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Posted - 2013.06.05 05:10:00 -
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the undock is better where its at now, the bar on the side is for stuff that will always be there, when you go in space when you jump from one place to the next, the undock button had nothing to do there since it needs tto go when you undock.
Its a simple change that youll get use to and will mess up some bots, also just right clicking your ship and undocking it is the true pro way of doing it, when they will remove rigth click options then il be mad, unless they fix the radial menu
I cant even use the radial menu in my drone window so its still broke |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics
K162
1951
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Posted - 2013.06.05 05:12:00 -
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Making arbitrary UI changes for no reason is extremely poor form in any software development.
Rookie mistake guys, move it back. |
Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo
Polarized.
260
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Posted - 2013.06.05 05:13:00 -
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Move to w-space...
...problem solved :)
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rswfire
Firesworn
Firesworn Nation
103
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Posted - 2013.06.05 05:14:00 -
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Aramatheia wrote:im sure the undock button is something that ppl will get used to over time, but after nearly 2 years of clicking the bottom left corner itsa constant "uhhh where is the... oh there" every time i want to undock now.
Same. :(
Aramatheia wrote:I want to know why the undock was moved, what technical or user benefit was there thats going to make the game that much better and more engaging by moving it to the absolute opposite of its prior location?
The reason why is mentioned in the patch notes. I'll try to find it. Something about making room for something that I'm apparently blind to because all I see is the clock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw
http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
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Blake Gates Heleneto
Clandestine Management Group
SiNTaX err0r
64
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Posted - 2013.06.05 05:16:00 -
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Proclus Diadochu wrote:Move to w-space...
...problem solved :)
Exactly :) |
rswfire
Firesworn
Firesworn Nation
103
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Posted - 2013.06.05 05:16:00 -
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From the patch notes:
Quote:The loading bar has been eliminated from the Undocking transition. The Undock button has been moved from the NeoCom to the Station Services panel to allow room to provide undocking progress.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw
http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
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Sishen Gzi
Hellion Support Services
45
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Posted - 2013.06.05 05:21:00 -
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Undocking in the station services? OUTRAGEOUS RABBLERABBLERABBLE!!!! |
rswfire
Firesworn
Firesworn Nation
103
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Posted - 2013.06.05 05:26:00 -
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The patch notes for this don't make much sense to me.
- Loading bar eliminated.
- Allow room to provide undocking progress.
I just undocked and watched the bottom left and saw nothing change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw
http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
3605
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Posted - 2013.06.05 05:49:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Making arbitrary UI changes for no reason is extremely poor form in any software development.
Rookie mistake guys, move it back.
What if it turns out that they have good reasons for doing this? Would you bear with it at that point? Undock is a station service, it belongs in the station services window. But really, all those station services belong in a radial menu so they are only visible when you actually need them.
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Solutio Letum
Terpene Conglomerate
117
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Posted - 2013.06.05 05:50:00 -
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rswfire wrote:The patch notes for this don't make much sense to me.
- Loading bar eliminated.
- Allow room to provide undocking progress.
I just undocked and watched the bottom left and saw nothing change.
you must be an idiot.....
watch the button on undock and watch it change colour to act like a loading bar... so sneaky you dint even notice it right?
they wanted to chose the size of the button to make it a bit bigger then when you have it on the side i guess so they've put it there, but seriously i remember having that thing minimized..... i know you can rigth click to undock but there is not shortcut.. can you use the radial menu?.... |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
3605
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Posted - 2013.06.05 05:50:00 -
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rswfire wrote:I just undocked and watched the bottom left and saw nothing change.
Watch the undock button! It catches fire :)
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Aramatheia
European Nuthouse
108
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Posted - 2013.06.05 06:06:00 -
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I am not an idiot, my view centers on the middle of the screen, around my spaceship and its hud location, not the bottom left, nor the top right!
bottom left was just something of habit even then it was a click then eyes on the middle ready to hit space! If they really shifted it after all that time just to make the undock arrows change color slightly... what a waste! Who really stares at the utmost extremities of thier screens like that anyway, everytime over x number of years to make it worthwhile?!
station services? ehh ok i guess, still i'd hardly consider that as a dominating reason to change the "norm", guess im still too used to npc stations, maybe that will change soon! Still much i need to learn about poses (can you dock in them, do they have the classic station appearances or something special?) |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
Home Front Coalition
485
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Posted - 2013.06.05 06:13:00 -
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The Scumbag Steve is strong in this threat. I like the flashy lights when undocking and couln't give a damn where they place that stupid button. Really, who cares? Well, seems I found them!  |
rswfire
Firesworn
Firesworn Nation
104
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Posted - 2013.06.05 06:22:00 -
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Solutio Letum wrote:rswfire wrote:The patch notes for this don't make much sense to me.
- Loading bar eliminated.
- Allow room to provide undocking progress.
I just undocked and watched the bottom left and saw nothing change. you must be an idiot..... watch the button on undock and watch it change colour to act like a loading bar... so sneaky you dint even notice it right?
I already noticed that it changes color. That's in the station services area, not the bottom left where the undock button used to be. It was purpotedly removed from there to "allow room to provide undocking progress" yet that does not appear to be the case. Try being respectful to others; it takes very little effort.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw
http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
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Jada Maroo
Southern Cross Empire
Flying Dangerous
1115
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Posted - 2013.06.05 06:23:00 -
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How are people supposed to bot if CCP keeps moving **** around all the time? |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
3607
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Posted - 2013.06.05 06:30:00 -
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rswfire wrote:I already noticed that it changes color. That's in the station services area, not the bottom left where the undock button used to be. It was purpotedly removed from there to "allow room to provide undocking progress" yet that does not appear to be the case. Try being respectful to others; it takes very little effort.
It had to be bigger to make the colour change noticeable, perhaps. Thus to make room for the feedback they had to move the button to part of the UI with more space.
That is, rather than making room for something else where it was, they had to make room for the undock button getting bigger.
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I Need PLEX
State War Academy
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.06.05 06:30:00 -
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Moving the undock button was a travesty and a shame and is very confusing and disorienting, please put it back |
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
1071
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Posted - 2013.06.05 06:36:00 -
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I felt a great disturbance in the Market, as if millions of bots suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something amazing has happened.
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Red Deck
Dark Nova Inc.
1
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Posted - 2013.06.05 06:42:00 -
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I am also having difficulties to understand the reason for moving the undock button to the very opposite corner of the screen. Annoys the hell out of me every time I need to undock now. Undocking may be a station service, but as I pretty much never use station services (the really useful ones are part of neocom anyway, the rest is used only rarely), it's a matter of grouping a very often used UI element with very rarely used UI elements - and that's, IMHO, bad UI design.
Is there a keyboard shortcut available or definable for undocking? If there is, I wouldn't care about the change... |
sloany
Assisted Genocide
Unprovoked Aggression
4
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Posted - 2013.06.05 07:33:00 -
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Clearly they want us to enter the captains quarters more often, why else would they waste all that screen real estate. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2833
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Posted - 2013.06.05 07:35:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:Crexa wrote:Its like Microsoft removing the START in Windows!!!
If you think that would be madness, dont buy windows 8 lololol EDIT: but dont avoid windows 8 just for that reason, theres many MANY more reasons to avoid it than just this! (yes they really went an 'vista-ed' again) ive not logged into odyssey yet, where has the undock button gone to?
Windows ME sucked so bad, I was using Windows 98 up till 2006.
From there I was using Windows XP up until a year ago, and now using Win7.
I will resist Win8 till my last breath!
The boss says the company is getting Win9.
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Lexmana
963
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Posted - 2013.06.05 07:37:00 -
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Youre gonna have a tough time in EVE if you cant adapt to this change. |
Darvaleth Sigma
Progressive State
State Section 9
269
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Posted - 2013.06.05 07:42:00 -
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Oh for ****'s sake somebody actually complained about this?
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