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Laurence C
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:12:00 -
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Grozen wrote:Only 2people in this topic came even remotely close to guess what could it be and my offer still stands if you think this change was ever anounced ANYWHERE be it forums or patches or even in test server forums I offer 10b wager against that statement with cribba as third party against anyone.I'm really considering keeping this to myself until someone decides to burn 10b, so I can put you all trolls where you belong but I'm having hard time being complete ******* like large part of the eve community seems to be.
The biggest mistake of those who are searching is they are looking at wide region even going outside of what I mentioned this is stricly industrial change and it only affects 2 small areas in said industry but it still brings large market impact.But the chance for you to find it if you don't deal with industrial stuff is close to zero.
Here is the biggest hint I've given in this topic: Open the market and look what has changed dramatically in the past day.
Dont stoop bro, if youve made yours and you wanna be different from every other annoying idiot in eve, broadcast it on here. If you wanna keep it to yourself, thats your decision, but honestly ppl this thread has not been a waist just for the fact that people might of figured it out, and just needed this guy to post this to get them looking, hes given us clues, if you decide not tell us, then the thread becomes a bit redundant and annoying, but still, you are driving people to investigate, and learn eve, I think this post is a great example of what happens when someone actually becomes innovative, and makes something of themselves, So bravo, whatever your decision is, you have set us in the right direction, and I hope that I get in on this soon, as I need a new JF :)
Fly safe, and good luck |

Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
192
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:14:00 -
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Laurence C wrote: Dont stoop bro, if youve made yours and you wanna be different from every other annoying idiot in eve, broadcast it on here. If you wanna keep it to yourself, thats your decision, but honestly ppl this thread has not been a waist just for the fact that people might of figured it out, and just needed this guy to post this to get them looking, hes given us clues, if you decide not tell us, then the thread becomes a bit redundant and annoying, but still, you are driving people to investigate, and learn eve, I think this post is a great example of what happens when someone actually becomes innovative, and makes something of themselves, So bravo, whatever your decision is, you have set us in the right direction, and I hope that I get in on this soon, as I need a new JF :)
Fly safe, and good luck
You Sir, win The Order Of The Brown Nose for today.
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Laurence C
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:18:00 -
[93] - Quote
Victoria Sin wrote:Laurence C wrote: Dont stoop bro, if youve made yours and you wanna be different from every other annoying idiot in eve, broadcast it on here. If you wanna keep it to yourself, thats your decision, but honestly ppl this thread has not been a waist just for the fact that people might of figured it out, and just needed this guy to post this to get them looking, hes given us clues, if you decide not tell us, then the thread becomes a bit redundant and annoying, but still, you are driving people to investigate, and learn eve, I think this post is a great example of what happens when someone actually becomes innovative, and makes something of themselves, So bravo, whatever your decision is, you have set us in the right direction, and I hope that I get in on this soon, as I need a new JF :)
Fly safe, and good luck
You Sir, win The Order Of The Brown Nose for today.
I might also win the mail that makes me my JF. |

Kirja
Alpha.Tech
1
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:27:00 -
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BS BPO's.
You are welcome. |

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
677
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:31:00 -
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I had a thing a while ago with data cores where when I cashed in RP I had been building for over a year I did not get charged the 10,000 isk per core I was supposed to. i though WOW, they just made data core farming profitable passive income again and did not mention it in the patch notes. But this turned out to just be a bug.
I hope it works out for you to actually make your 13 bil when it is time to cash in. If is happens to be a bug/mistake CCP will reverse it like they did to me.
Also if it is regarding NPC goods, the way that works is a little tricky, It may look massively profitable, but the prices shift constantly as orders are filled. I once bought a freighter load of NPC goods in Amarr because the NPC buy orders in another regeon were double what i payed. But by the time I got there and started selling I only filled 4-5 buy orders before the price dropped, I barely broke even by the time I off loaded it all. it is coded for noob traders to make so quick isk off the NPC market, but if you try to do in in any volume the orders shift as soon as you start selling.
As i said, i hope it works out well for you. i will keep watching as I am curious if this will be a, "WOW, you really lucked out finding that." or a "oh that, I though it was something significant."
19:00 was 30 minutes ago, now you are waiting until down time? Guess I will read it in the morning. |

Uppsy Daisy
Perkone Caldari State
509
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:35:00 -
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Curious.
Perhaps the OP has decided that others are not finding the opportunity and he would like to hang on to it a bit longer...? |

Grozen
Titan Core
9
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:37:00 -
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Bugsy VanHalen wrote: I had a thing a while ago with data cores where when I cashed in RP I had been building for over a year I did not get charged the 10,000 isk per core I was supposed to. i though WOW, they just made data core farming profitable passive income again and did not mention it in the patch notes. But this turned out to just be a bug.
I hope it works out for you to actually make your 13 bil when it is time to cash in. If is happens to be a bug/mistake CCP will reverse it like they did to me.
Also if it is regarding NPC goods, the way that works is a little tricky, It may look massively profitable, but the prices shift constantly as orders are filled. I once bought a freighter load of NPC goods in Amarr because the NPC buy orders in another regeon were double what i payed. But by the time I got there and started selling I only filled 4-5 buy orders before the price dropped, I barely broke even by the time I off loaded it all. it is coded for noob traders to make so quick isk off the NPC market, but if you try to do in in any volume the orders shift as soon as you start selling.
As i said, i hope it works out well for you. i will keep watching as I am curious if this will be a, "WOW, you really lucked out finding that." or a "oh that, I though it was something significant."
19:00 was 30 minutes ago, now you are waiting until down time? Guess I will read it in the morning.
23:00eve time is in 5hours and 30mins not downtime for my tz. knowledge is power. |

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
677
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:40:00 -
[98] - Quote
Grozen wrote:Bugsy VanHalen wrote: I had a thing a while ago with data cores where when I cashed in RP I had been building for over a year I did not get charged the 10,000 isk per core I was supposed to. i though WOW, they just made data core farming profitable passive income again and did not mention it in the patch notes. But this turned out to just be a bug.
I hope it works out for you to actually make your 13 bil when it is time to cash in. If is happens to be a bug/mistake CCP will reverse it like they did to me.
Also if it is regarding NPC goods, the way that works is a little tricky, It may look massively profitable, but the prices shift constantly as orders are filled. I once bought a freighter load of NPC goods in Amarr because the NPC buy orders in another regeon were double what i payed. But by the time I got there and started selling I only filled 4-5 buy orders before the price dropped, I barely broke even by the time I off loaded it all. it is coded for noob traders to make so quick isk off the NPC market, but if you try to do in in any volume the orders shift as soon as you start selling.
As i said, i hope it works out well for you. i will keep watching as I am curious if this will be a, "WOW, you really lucked out finding that." or a "oh that, I though it was something significant."
19:00 was 30 minutes ago, now you are waiting until down time? Guess I will read it in the morning. 23:00eve time is in 5hours and 30mins not downtime for my tz.
Still middle of the night for me, I'm going to bed soon.
If you want to EVE mail me before then, I won't spoil the surprise. |

Coco Mishi
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:54:00 -
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this whole thread should be deleted and this guy biomassed, no joke |

Ireland VonVicious
Vendetta Syndicate
150
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:56:00 -
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I'm pretty certain that you are either a noob who is way over estimating the value of what you have found or you are trolling all these people.
If you really had something good it's already been found out.
My guess is you see something that is going to spike but is going to take so long to do so that you'd have been better of using the isk to day trade as the profit would have been much higher. Everyone else sees it too and is not foolish enough to tie up large amounts of isk for such a period of time.
Trolololololol
I know something you don't.
I'll tell you at this time.
Did I say at that time? I ment at this other time.
Oh I'm not going to announce it. I'll mail it to you.
I've seen much better trolling than this. You need to up your game. |
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Grozen
Titan Core
9
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Posted - 2013.06.05 20:00:00 -
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Ireland VonVicious wrote:I'm pretty certain that you are either a noob who is way over estimating the value of what you have found or you are trolling all these people.
If you really had something good it's already been found out.
My guess is you see something that is going to spike but is going to take so long to do so that you'd have been better of using the isk to day trade as the profit would have been much higher. Everyone else sees it too and is not foolish enough to tie up large amounts of isk for such a period of time.
Trolololololol
I know something you don't.
I'll tell you at this time.
Did I say at that time? I ment at this other time.
Oh I'm not going to announce it. I'll mail it to you.
I've seen much better trolling than this. You need to up your game.
Why don't you take my 10bil wager then?I'm sure we all believe cribba is honest player and will judge correctly who is right in this matter.If you're so sure you got nothing to lose.Plus even if its found Im the only one willing to uncover it for the community.There may be 3-4people ingame that by now should be aware of it but i can bet they will keep their mouths shut for very very long time. knowledge is power. |

Laurence C
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 20:06:00 -
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Microprocessors? |

Tonton Zeta
Li3's Electric Cucumber Li3 Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.05 21:19:00 -
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Is it battleship BPO? Their base value has been adjusted. If you look at the market history you can clearly see they jumped up especially the former T1 battleship BPO. I'm too late. I just noticed.  |

iskflakes
494
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:20:00 -
[104] - Quote
Maybe I just happened to have those BPOs and had no idea the change was coming? - |

Grozen
Titan Core
9
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:24:00 -
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iskflakes wrote:Maybe I just happened to have those BPOs and had no idea the change was coming?
This is very nice but I'm sure there was more than enough hints that bpo prices will go up.What I did find is rather smaller compared to bs price changes. knowledge is power. |

Manny Moons
New Order Logistics CODE.
122
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:57:00 -
[106] - Quote
If this is about t2 components being removed from t1 modules, that was announced.
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Grozen
Titan Core
9
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:59:00 -
[107] - Quote
Here it is ladies and gents the moment you've all been waiting for! The change i was talking for is prototype cloaking device I bpo
The bpo was altered so that now it also requires 3 hermetic membranes and 2supercomputers for 1unit of pcd1.
What does this mean on large scale:
1.Every pcd1 and each of its tech 2 variants is now sitting on the market produced and selling below build cost(jita market already reacted) its only a matter of time before producers find out that they are cutting their own troat and up the prices, there are still many untouched orders around eve.Rough calculations show that the new price is going increase anywhere from 300k+ up to 1m+ depends where the market drives it.But the build cost for 1pcd in the worst case scenario is 1454000-1.5m and judging from how the market prices its stuff new sell price is likely to be around 1.7-2.4m(already reached estimate in jita).
2.Here is where the PI change comes.This gives a new found use for hermetic membranes and supercomputers which were before sold below build cost, this will also increase the prices on all the rest of the pi materials required to build them.Because pcds are sold in large amounts everyday this will create a new demand for hermetic membranes and supercomputers quite diferent from the 3k sold per day we've had before.New demand at current trade volume I suspect should be about 30k/day for HM and about 20k/day for SUPCOMS .There are still many pi materials used to build both around in eve, but how much they will go up again is up to the markets.But since the cost of hermetic membrane comes around to something like 170k both its submaterials are very underpriced atm.I have not researched how it is for supercomputers but my guess its not much different.
3.If you don't have the cash to buy pi materials or cloaks you can make good amount of cash setting up pi planets to build these pi materials on your own and fill the demand which will increase very soon.It will be huge at start because on a big day pcd1 sells around 3-4k units on an average 1.5k-2k, and this is solely pcd1 sales, I'm not even putting the fact that pcd1s are used in invention.Producers will need tons of hermetic membranes and supercomputers both of which only require pi skills and few planets to make.
Now go search forums and patch notes to try and prove me wrong but you will find that this was never mentioned anywhere:) How did I found?Well i tried to build 1pcd after the patch and I couldn't that made me look at what is missing so I can build it and then I noticed these new materials.So no I'm not insider or in any way related to CCP just a humble industrialist oh and for once in your life learn to say thanks.I could have kept this under raps for god knows how long.But I'm not the usuall grief troll eve player.So enjoy! knowledge is power. |

Manny Moons
New Order Logistics CODE.
122
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:04:00 -
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Grozen wrote:...Now go search forums and patch notes to try and prove me wrong but you will find that this was never mentioned anywhere:) This falls under the heading of t2 materials being removed from t1 modules, which was announced. Just because they didn't say exactly what materials they would be replaced with doesn't mean it was unannounced.
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Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
241
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:08:00 -
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" MOD u'Prototype Cloaking Device I Blueprint' + ram Manufacturing Hermetic Membranes: 3 + ram Manufacturing Supercomputers: 2 - ram Manufacturing Graviton Pulse Generator: 5 - ram Manufacturing Photon Microprocessor: 5"
Was totally not on any notes anywhere, or on SiSi at all....
Also, build cost is currently 1.19m max. Sell orders are at 1.5m and have been for several weeks |

Grozen
Titan Core
9
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:09:00 -
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Manny Moons wrote:Grozen wrote:...Now go search forums and patch notes to try and prove me wrong but you will find that this was never mentioned anywhere:) This falls under the heading of t2 materials being removed from t1 modules, which was announced. Just because they didn't say exactly what materials they would be replaced with doesn't mean it was unannounced.
Whatever dude just use it. knowledge is power. |
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Grozen
Titan Core
9
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:11:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:" MOD u'Prototype Cloaking Device I Blueprint' + ram Manufacturing Hermetic Membranes: 3 + ram Manufacturing Supercomputers: 2 - ram Manufacturing Graviton Pulse Generator: 5 - ram Manufacturing Photon Microprocessor: 5"
Was totally not on any notes anywhere, or on SiSi at all....
Also, build cost is currently 1.19m max. Sell orders are at 1.5m and have been for several weeks
Im not test server specialist but it wasn't in the test forums which I mentioned here.But the build cost give me a break.Run IPH and correct your bs.Build cost is 1088k prior to patch.If you add HM and SUPcoms it can never be 1.19m max. knowledge is power. |

Jason Xado
Xado Industries
135
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:11:00 -
[112] - Quote
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238311&find=unread |

Manny Moons
New Order Logistics CODE.
122
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:12:00 -
[113] - Quote
The forum post specifically mentioned prototype cloaking devices.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238311
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Grozen
Titan Core
9
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:13:00 -
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Jason Xado wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238311&find=unread
Thanks well I guess I saved myself 10b lol too bad nobody took the bet to make look fool. knowledge is power. |

Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
241
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:15:00 -
[115] - Quote
IPH as requested |

Grozen
Titan Core
9
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:17:00 -
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If you manage to buy hermetic membranes and supcoms at this price on a daily basis let me know.Until then learn to read.HM will never sell at 66k after june.Same goes for supcoms price. knowledge is power. |

Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
241
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:25:00 -
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I have trained my reading to level 1
I trained Screenshots to Level 2
Here is Jita Prototypes right now
OMG prototypes
Here is IPH updated for Jita prices
OMG IPH
So.....tell me again how they are selling below build cost? |

Grozen
Titan Core
9
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:27:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:I have trained my reading to level 1 I trained Screenshots to Level 2 Here is Jita Prototypes right now OMG prototypesHere is IPH updated for Jita prices OMG IPHSo.....tell me again how they are selling below build cost?
They are selling below build cost because the price of HM and SUPCOMS is changing for good.I honestly can not explain it better than that.Do you honestly believe HM is worth 128k? you are taking into account prices which do not correspond to PI Build cost knowledge is power. |

Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
241
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:29:00 -
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they are NOT selling below build cost.
Build cost is 1.36,
Sell cost is 1.69m
At no point in the last 10 days have they been below build cost. |

Grozen
Titan Core
9
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:30:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:they are NOT selling below build cost.
Build cost is 1.36,
Sell cost is 1.69m
At no point in the last 10 days have they been below build cost. I didn't said the last 10days.I mean after patch.But keep upping those PI prices eventually you will get close to my estimate. knowledge is power. |
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