I have an idea!

Let's tell everybody what it is, while it's still possible, then none of us will make any profit this year.

Pretty good idea right? If only I thought of it myself...

Come on entertain me a bit more I'm sure there are a lot of clever people around in eve.Its just a matter of time before its discovered.Everyone has access to it.

Yep. You could just wait two days and then tell them, rather than have them ruin your profit.

That can't happen for one single reason, I was like omfg and acted imediately on it.At this point even upon discovery I will make good profit.
Thats why i posted it because it doesn't matter anymore if its found or not.

If we're thinking of the same thing:
1) It's still possible for anybody
2) You will have to wait 2 years to make your money back
3) Every other person who figures it out will make it harder for you to sell, a lot harder.

2-More like several seconds

Compared to ice changes this is a small stuff but it still affects all industrialists and with that I shut my pie hole I'm looking for more ways to exploit this legit new stuff.

I am just waiting for tomorrow when you unveil this big secret and it turns out everyone, but you, knew about it.

Like i said its nothing on a grand scale, but I can wager 5 billion that on this date 04.june 2013 it is not in the patch notes.If any1 wants to wager 5bil back i will get cribba to hold it.

Like i said its nothing on a grand scale, but I can wager 5 billion that on this date 04.june 2013 it is not in the patch notes.If any1 wants to wager 5bil back i will get cribba to hold it.

Are you sure its not something that was done several weeks ago, you just did not notice until now?

There have been several changes not mentioned in the patch notes, either because they were last minute after the note were written, or they were to insignificant to bother.

What ever it is, either already know about it, or it was not worth the isk to exploit it.

I would have said the navy cap booster thing but it was announced.

and I hope it is not the personal hangar array either :p

The only thing i realised that some T2 components now need this terahertz **** to build. As an example for Amarr tech

Probably not the 'access pos modules from out with 3km' as that was mentioned in a dev blog.

As long as you are not referring to the changes in ore value. Omber has been worthless for ages, and is now worth mining again, SPOD and Gneiss now beat out all the high sec ores except Pyroxeres. Veldspar is back at the bottom, where it should be.

You must be referring to that new source of cheap tritanium.

As long as you are not referring to the changes in ore value. Omber has been worthless for ages, and is now worth mining again, SPOD and Gneiss now beat out all the high sec ores except Pyroxeres. Veldspar is back at the bottom, where it should be.

So many changes, trying to pin point the less obvious one you are talking about is like picking a specific card out of the deck, without knowing what it is. I used to be good at that, but only when I was holding the deck.

lets see,
Capital rig BPO's are seeded, some of the capital rigs did not get the ME/PE research time updated properly, likely a bug. .If you get the research going right away you might get some free ME levels before they get switched from 30 minutes to 30 days.

refining quotes now actually show 100% return if you are getting 100% return? but that is old news.

skill requirements have changed for a number of ships, including some industrial ships?

Some changes to POS mechanics, aside for the new module?

Did I see a couple new T2 modules for stuff that was only T1 before?

The nerf to T2 BPO's?

The high sec grav sites being anomalies now, show on system scan.

Faction probes and launcher have dropped way down in price.

there is a tonne of other small changes, you have given no clue as to what change you are talking about.

You will have to be more specific, at least with the type of industrial activity it relates too. There are just to many small changes for you comment to mean anything.

I found a small change that was not listed in the patch notes, as an industrial player I will make some isk off it. Yeah I have dozens of those, considering this expansion focused on exploration and industrial changes. There were several to small to mention in the patch notes that an observant player could make a few buck off of. What makes you think what you found was hidden so well?

When does the offer to tell the secret for some ISK happen? Maybe a secret that can double ISK, and in jita no less.

Yes you've heard me right ladies and gents CCP changed something in a very very big way without anouncing it in the patch notes, i will hint that it only impacts industrialists.Happy hunting;)

I found it by a mere accident today.

dumbest post ever, hey guys i know something you dont, nenee nenee poo poo..

Anything to do with reprocessing?

No it has nothing to do with reprocessing, and lets keep this constructive, just be around tomorrow 19:00 chances are if you have few bil aside you can make couple hundred mil depending on how fast you are.

So really it's not on the scale of moongoo or ice, at all?

Im sure when people found gold in the past in their mine they told all the town as fast they could.

Plus I already said im gonna tell what it is.I could also go back on my word and not tell anyone how would you like that instead mrs troll?

Perhaps you should have waited until after 1900 tomorrow to post, then. Until then, it does sound like his statement, the "I know something you don't" The constant replies to your own post seem to indicate you are enjoying the "I know something you don't". If this isn't the case, why don't you just wait until 1900, then?

I was enjoying myself in the start when I found it, but Im not a troll I was merely playing a minigame in eve and i'm trying to respond to all questions.If you don't like the game don't play.

So you're 'playing a minigame' when you come on here and post that you know something we don't, and then strike down all the wrong answers. It STILL sounds like "I know something you don't", you're just being passive-aggressive about it. If you have something to contribute to market discussion, go ahead, contribute it.

I think after page 2 you still had a chance to reveal your "BIG" secret..

Now everyone is just waiting for you to either not actually disclose, or disclose so they can laugh at you for not knowing in advance..

Regardless this type of post is the lamest thing I have seen in a long time. You have basically just placed yourself at the kiddie-table.

oh no BS bpo prices - prize is mine :D yarrrr

OP has held his story long enough to peak my interest. How about you just mail the tip to the non-trolls of the thread?

Look at this guy trying to get people to throw all sorts of wild isk-making opportunities at him, just so he can make money, because he's late to the party.

He's probably going to tell us that Drakes take 5 Trit less to build or something dumb.

Can you confirm the following information about your score?

1) It is closely related to an industrial process (perhaps items involved in manufacturing or invention).
2) You believe it is a legitimate irregularity and therefore not likely to cause a CCP claim of exploits (not like the faction war exploit).
3) It takes a couple of seconds to implement (perhaps buying something).
4) The return will be within 2-3 weeks. This is confusing since part 3 comes from a statement that the return was 2 seconds. Perhaps the time on return is increasing, or perhaps you were confusing implementation vs time on return in the post about 2 seconds.

There is a game called Zendo. You are supposed to figure out a spacial design based on induction. It can be quite difficult to figure out the puzzle even when the solution seems simple to someone who knows it. A friend of mine tried a pentagon which stumped us. It was obvious to him, but difficult to find inductively.

I guess we will see what odd corner of eve industry changed around 19:00.

Grozen, your village has called, their idiot is missing...

EVE teached me how it's hard to see the detail...

Did they send the understudy out to find him?




Sorry, couldn't resist, no offence intended.

You'll probably tell me English is your second language and I'll feel really bad.

Did they send the understudy out to find him?



Sorry, couldn't resist, no offence intended.

You'll probably tell me English is your second language and I'll feel really bad.

No probs, but be insured I regret my poor english. Once, I made laugh a whole system because I had mixed "consuming" and "consummating" in local system chat.

it's COSMOS

No its not that but thank you for the contribution, this thread has shed light on many things that were otherwise hidden from the casual player.Thank you everyone who posted.Hour left, just a heads up if you have trading alts now is the time to put one in every region.

Oh come on man.. do the right thing and just send messages to the nice guys. No need to pad the pockets of the big timers, especially when 12 billion is probably nothing to them. It would be a great bit more valuable to a newer player (such as myself I might add), and unfortunately I will be at work and unable to get in game for hours after your deadline, likely eating all that pie up.

I looked around and couldnGÇÖt find it myself, but I am new to the game and even newer to an industrial focus so I didnGÇÖt have high hopes. I had hoped it was tied into reprocessing but didnt see anything there.

No need to feed the trolls. Cut and run, and share with those that could use the wealth.

Hmm I was thinking I can create a mailing list enter the names of those who have posted and are not older than 4years+ and send the tip to them earlier and after a certain amount of time I can release it to everyone else.By all means I'm open to all suggestions as to what will be fair.

Hmm I was thinking I can create a mailing list enter the names of those who have posted and are not older than 4years+ and send the tip to them earlier and after a certain amount of time I can release it to everyone else.By all means I'm open to all suggestions as to what will be fair.Trolls will be excluded from list:P

Hmm I was thinking I can create a mailing list enter the names of those who have posted and are not older than 4years+ and send the tip to them earlier and after a certain amount of time I can release it to everyone else.By all means I'm open to all suggestions as to what will be fair.Trolls will be excluded from list:P

Let me troll, because I don't really want to be on your stupid list anyway:

Delete this pointless thread.

You don't need to act so bumhurt, after all Im not gonna bother with mailing list There not so many posters around I will just send a copy to each who qualify and 30minutes later all of eve will know it.But i will leave it for 23:00 eve time.Its a lot to write and I have life(dinner etc.) to attend to meanwhile let the pressure build up.

Datadump...

Your welcome!

Im also going to edit this post without actually giving away what it is, but those who REALLY want it, can definitely find their hand in the cookie jar through this.
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/default.php

Datadump...

Your welcome!

Im also going to edit this post without actually giving away what it is, but those who REALLY want it, can definitely find their hand in the cookie jar through this.
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/default.php

Only 2people in this topic came even remotely close to guess what could it be and my offer still stands if you think this change was ever anounced ANYWHERE be it forums or patches or even in test server forums I offer 10b wager against that statement with cribba as third party against anyone.I'm really considering keeping this to myself until someone decides to burn 10b, so I can put you all trolls where you belong but I'm having hard time being complete ******* like large part of the eve community seems to be.

The biggest mistake of those who are searching is they are looking at wide region even going outside of what I mentioned this is stricly industrial change and it only affects 2 small areas in said industry but it still brings large market impact.But the chance for you to find it if you don't deal with industrial stuff is close to zero.

Here is the biggest hint I've given in this topic:
Open the market and look what has changed dramatically in the past day.

Dont stoop bro, if youve made yours and you wanna be different from every other annoying idiot in eve, broadcast it on here. If you wanna keep it to yourself, thats your decision, but honestly ppl this thread has not been a waist just for the fact that people might of figured it out, and just needed this guy to post this to get them looking, hes given us clues, if you decide not tell us, then the thread becomes a bit redundant and annoying, but still, you are driving people to investigate, and learn eve, I think this post is a great example of what happens when someone actually becomes innovative, and makes something of themselves, So bravo, whatever your decision is, you have set us in the right direction, and I hope that I get in on this soon, as I need a new JF :)


Fly safe, and good luck

You Sir, win The Order Of The Brown Nose for today.

I had a thing a while ago with data cores where when I cashed in RP I had been building for over a year I did not get charged the 10,000 isk per core I was supposed to. i though WOW, they just made data core farming profitable passive income again and did not mention it in the patch notes. But this turned out to just be a bug.

I hope it works out for you to actually make your 13 bil when it is time to cash in. If is happens to be a bug/mistake CCP will reverse it like they did to me.

Also if it is regarding NPC goods, the way that works is a little tricky, It may look massively profitable, but the prices shift constantly as orders are filled. I once bought a freighter load of NPC goods in Amarr because the NPC buy orders in another regeon were double what i payed. But by the time I got there and started selling I only filled 4-5 buy orders before the price dropped, I barely broke even by the time I off loaded it all. it is coded for noob traders to make so quick isk off the NPC market, but if you try to do in in any volume the orders shift as soon as you start selling.

As i said, i hope it works out well for you. i will keep watching as I am curious if this will be a, "WOW, you really lucked out finding that." or a "oh that, I though it was something significant."

19:00 was 30 minutes ago, now you are waiting until down time? Guess I will read it in the morning.

23:00eve time is in 5hours and 30mins not downtime for my tz.

I'm pretty certain that you are either a noob who is way over estimating the value of what you have found or you are trolling all these people.

If you really had something good it's already been found out.

My guess is you see something that is going to spike but is going to take so long to do so that you'd have been better of using the isk to day trade as the profit would have been much higher. Everyone else sees it too and is not foolish enough to tie up large amounts of isk for such a period of time.


Trolololololol

I know something you don't.

I'll tell you at this time.

Did I say at that time? I ment at this other time.

Oh I'm not going to announce it. I'll mail it to you.

I've seen much better trolling than this. You need to up your game.

BS BPOs. You are welcome.

EDIT: for the dummies: Domi BPO 625kk -> 1600kk

EDIT nr2: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=244005

Maybe I just happened to have those BPOs and had no idea the change was coming?

...Now go search forums and patch notes to try and prove me wrong but you will find that this was never mentioned anywhere:)

This falls under the heading of t2 materials being removed from t1 modules, which was announced. Just because they didn't say exactly what materials they would be replaced with doesn't mean it was unannounced.

"
MOD u'Prototype Cloaking Device I Blueprint'
+ ram Manufacturing Hermetic Membranes: 3
+ ram Manufacturing Supercomputers: 2
- ram Manufacturing Graviton Pulse Generator: 5
- ram Manufacturing Photon Microprocessor: 5"

Was totally not on any notes anywhere, or on SiSi at all....

Also, build cost is currently 1.19m max. Sell orders are at 1.5m and have been for several weeks

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238311&find=unread

I have trained my reading to level 1

I trained Screenshots to Level 2

Here is Jita Prototypes right now

OMG prototypes

Here is IPH updated for Jita prices

OMG IPH


So.....tell me again how they are selling below build cost?

they are NOT selling below build cost.

Build cost is 1.36,

Sell cost is 1.69m

At no point in the last 10 days have they been below build cost.

Let me see if I understand you

"RIGHT NOW! they are selling below build cost"

I show that in my region they are not

You say

"AH, I meant Jita"

So, I log jita, and show that they are not too

The PI prices are accurate for jita as of 2 minutes ago.

Now you say "Oh, I meant in the future"

When were they selling below build cost in Jita, you said they were.

"Haha well, like i said its nothing on a grand scale even if I tell someone now they will not be able to earn more than 6-7b and that will require 2-3weeks time the best part of the pie was rather small and i ate it already."

Now can we close this thread since OP secret method is as bad as expected ?

I have to disagree : OP really found something original and used it cleverly. He kept his word and gave the necessary explanations. Of course this is not THE important thing that we could have imagined.

However behind the suspense, there was an objective and concrete evidence. I'm not disapointed.

This deserves an award... check your wallet Grozen

How did I found?Well i tried to build 1pcd after the patch and I couldn't that made me look at what is missing so I can build it and then I noticed these new materials.So no I'm not insider or in any way related to CCP just a humble industrialist oh and for once in your life learn to say thanks.I could have kept this under raps for god knows how long.But I'm not the usuall grief troll eve player.So enjoy!

Wait - can't the PI people like, you know, make more?

Thanks well I guess I saved myself 10b lol too bad nobody took the bet to make look fool.However they still didn't mentioned the fact what materials are going to be used.

Yup, just like the cost of nano past after the acilary armor repair module was added, prices of naopaste dropped from around 40,000 to 17,000 due to PI characters stepping up production of the mats.

Don't sit on these, as the prices will drop fast, very soon.

Here it is ladies and gents the moment you've all been waiting for! The change i was talking for is prototype cloaking device I bpo

Nanite Repair Paste went up because of speculation, check further down on the market history. they might have settled a lower than before the speculation, but they weren't 40k before it.

Thanks well I guess I saved myself 10b lol too bad nobody took the bet to make look fool.However they still didn't mentioned the fact what materials are going to be used.

Came in here expecting to see the OP fall flat on his face and look like a complete idiot. Left Satisfied.