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Dionyssis Kontominas
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Posted - 2005.11.04 10:02:00 -
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Hello all,
i am wondering which of the two is more productive to fit as a mining laser in a mining barge. Assuming there is no CPU/Grid issues and required skills, just productivity issue. A Strip Miner I gives 540 ore units and Modulated Strip Miner II gives only 360 ore units. There is also a line for specialty crystal mining amount of 360 Ore units in Item Database, so i'm confused. Can somebody shed some light on this ?
TIA
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Espen
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Posted - 2005.11.04 10:21:00 -
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Modulated with crystal can take abit over 1000 ore every 3 mins, I think.
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Dionyssis Kontominas
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Posted - 2005.11.04 10:26:00 -
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 Originally by: Espen
Modulated with crystal can take abit over 1000 ore every 3 mins, I think.
3 * 360 = 1080 in 3 minutes.
So, comparing with Strip Miner I in per minute basis it's not so productive! What about the 'specialty crystal mining amount' ?
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Cadiz
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Posted - 2005.11.04 10:35:00 -
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Edited by: Cadiz on 04/11/2005 10:38:28
Fitting the appropriate mining crystal allows you to add the "specialty crystal mining amount" to your amount of ore harvested per cycle. In other words, using the appropriate mining crystal gives the modulated strip miner II an effective yield of 720 units, modified by all the usual skills & whatnot.
That's how I understand it, anyways...I might be wrong. I really only dabble in mining.
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Dionyssis Kontominas
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Posted - 2005.11.04 10:47:00 -
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So the only safe way to tell, is from somebody that has already a Modulated Strip Mining II in use... Anybody ?
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Thaetan Brynn
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Posted - 2005.11.04 10:49:00 -
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You use mining crystals with the modulated strip miner II's...
http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/shipequipment/ammunitioncharges/miningcrystals/18618.asp
The T2 crystals have a 175% bonus to yield, as long as you're mining the right asteroid. That's 630m3, per laser, per 3 minutes.
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Dionyssis Kontominas
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Posted - 2005.11.04 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Thaetan Brynn
You use mining crystals with the modulated strip miner II's...
http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/shipequipment/ammunitioncharges/miningcrystals/18618.asp
The T2 crystals have a 175% bonus to yield, as long as you're mining the right asteroid. That's 630m3, per laser, per 3 minutes.
Do you imply that the 540m3 ore unit production for Strip Miner I is per laser, per 3 minutes ? In this case Modulated is slightly better even if using T1 crystals..
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Thaetan Brynn
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Posted - 2005.11.04 11:14:00 -
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Yes, that's correct.
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Greenwing
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Posted - 2005.11.04 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dionyssis Kontominas
Originally by: Thaetan Brynn
You use mining crystals with the modulated strip miner II's...
http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/shipequipment/ammunitioncharges/miningcrystals/18618.asp
The T2 crystals have a 175% bonus to yield, as long as you're mining the right asteroid. That's 630m3, per laser, per 3 minutes.
Do you imply that the 540m3 ore unit production for Strip Miner I is per laser, per 3 minutes ? In this case Modulated is slightly better even if using T1 crystals..
Yup, the modulated stripminer with T1 is a bit better as strip miners I. (360*162.5% = 585 for T1 crystals and 360*175%=630 for T2, compared to 540 for stripminer I) <- skills not included
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Dahin
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Posted - 2005.11.04 12:16:00 -
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Strip 2's with t2 crystals makes all the difference in the world.
Putting t1 crystals doesn't make much sense, because t2 ones are almost as easy to fit as t1 ones (lvl3 the skill instead of lvl2 if I remember correctly), they more than payback their cost and they bring in a VERY good mining result.
I don't remember the exact numbers, but I remember going "w00t?" when I brought in the first batch from the strip 2's with crokite.
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Dionyssis Kontominas
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Posted - 2005.11.04 13:07:00 -
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A question that arises now is whether other mining lasers have a 3 min cycle. For example, Miner II Laser has 60 Ore Units production. Does this refer to 3 min? (ie 60 per 3 min) ?
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Neolith
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:35:00 -
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Strip miners have a 3 minute cycle, the miner I and II have a 1 minute cycle. was that ur question?
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:43:00 -
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Edited by: Feta Solamnia on 07/11/2005 12:43:35
nvm
Originally by: Oveur
I have access to all market data. Believe me, we have not reached anything close to deflation yet.
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Dionyssis Kontominas
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:55:00 -
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I have covered by the answers, thanks very much for the respond.
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Vivus Mors
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Posted - 2005.11.07 21:47:00 -
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Strip Miner 1 laser: Strip Miner 1
Please note the two most important attributes, those being ôactivation time / durationö and ômining amountö.
Those are the two most important things for ALL mining lasers.
Modulated Strip Miner 2 laser: Modulated Strip Miner 2
Now, many people think for modulated beams you add the mining amount with the ôspecialty mining amountö, when in fact, the two are completely separate.
The ôspecialty mining amountö only refers to how much ore you will mine in that cycle time IF you are mining with a mining crystal AND on the ore of the same type as the mining crystal (i.e. veldspar being mined with a veldspar crystal)
The reason there is a separate value is that if you were to mine say scordite with a veldspar crystal installed, you go back to the default mining value for the laser since you are no longer mining the specified ore type with the appropriate crystal.
Now, when you do mine the appropriate ore with the appropriate crystal, the MSM2 is unquestionably superior to the SM1 by 8.33% more with Tech 1 crystals and by 16.66% more with tech 2 crystals.
For convenience of never having crystals break and to simply ôpoint and shootö at any rock with the same yield, SM1Æs have a significant advantage since the MSM2Æs will roll back to their default mining yield without the crystal type matching the ore you mine installed, but for any serious miner itÆs very easy to switch crystals and always be properly configured to squeeze every last unit of ore out of the rocks in the same time span.
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snotty
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Posted - 2005.11.07 22:08:00 -
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strip miner 1: 970 ore/3mins
strip miner 2 + christal, 1080 or so ore/3 mins
strip minr 2 + t2 christal, 1140 or so ore/3 mins
so a strip miner 2 + christal is about 10% better and with t2 christal about 20% better then strip miner 1
problem with the t2 christals is that they ware out, and ware out fast, you prolly just get the isk back for the extra yield they give.
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Negydu Marchnata
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Posted - 2005.11.08 00:15:00 -
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Edited by: Negydu Marchnata on 08/11/2005 00:16:58
Originally by: snotty
so a strip miner 2 + christal is about 10% better and with t2 christal about 20% better then strip miner 1
problem with the t2 christals is that they ware out, and ware out fast, you prolly just get the isk back for the extra yield they give.
The T2 crystals that I am currently using have paid off their cost in a little over an hour (low and mid-grade ore) and have lasted over 6 hours of cumulative mining. I am not sure what other peoples experiences are with these, but so far not a single T2 crystal I have used has popped. There has been some decay, but they are still poundin' away.
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