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Reislier
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Posted - 2011.10.22 17:06:00 -
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Yes, I want a leather shop for the evenings with a nice back room, and a smoothie shop for the mornings. |
Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.22 18:15:00 -
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Scifi wrote:Shalee Lianne wrote:I don't think it is that simple really.
Of course the majority wants WiS, etc, but most people if given the choice, would prefer time/money spent on the things we already have and improving them. Fix everything else before adding something new. I tend to agree with this (maybe a more even split then a majority though). FiS is where the majority of the game sits and that should be the main focus. WiS though seems a natural extension but without anything worthwhile to DO there it's a feels like a waste of time. As an old Earth and Beyond player the only reason you got out of your ship was to either A) get a mission, B) reload ammo, C) use the builder terminals....ok maybe D) go dance in the hidden disco room. This is pretty much the only reason anyone docks up in EVE save to avoid getting blown the hell up. In some ways WiS is a massive chicken and the egg dilemma. No one will want you working on it because there's nothing to do there...and there's nothing to do because no one wants you working on it.
I think the MAJORITY want fixes in old content, fixes in years old ignored bugs, FW, better spaceship combat, fixing 0.0, giving love to lowsec WAAAAAAAAAAAY more than they want a side game where they can walk around
What Mittani wants, Mittani gets, Mittani help us all
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Ines Tegator
Project ELT
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Posted - 2011.10.22 18:26:00 -
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Ever? Yes.
As a high priority? No.
At the cost of spaceship content? Hell no. |
Sirius Cassiopeiae
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.22 19:15:00 -
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I would like to use WiS very much... i think that 90% of players think the same (not only forum guys)...
just... please CCP... give us answer... how far from deploying establishments are you??? how much problems do you have???
i saw some dev post somewhere that they are near done... that was few months ago... so... what changed??? |
Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
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Posted - 2011.10.22 19:23:00 -
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Yes - but I would rather that CCP not ignore FIS for :18 months: in order to deliver it to us. |
T' Elk
Clearly Compensating
The Dark Triad
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Posted - 2011.10.22 19:26:00 -
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I do want it eventually, but I want it released as a full expansion. They should take their time with it though, keep the focus on FiS.
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Flamespar
Woof Club
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Posted - 2011.10.22 20:52:00 -
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T' Elk wrote:I do want it eventually, but I want it released as a full expansion. They should take their time with it though, keep the focus on FiS.
I agree. What I don't like is that CCP is saying that they don't intend to do this.
I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Kumq uat
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.22 21:02:00 -
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I really just don't care. Would it be cool to walk around and own establishments and all that kinda stuff? Yeah, of course. Do I want it to put FiS on the back burner while they develop it? No. No I dont. |
Terminal Insanity
Convex Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.10.22 21:09:00 -
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Hilmar's statements in eurogamer doesnt sound like they're dropping it completely. I hope they focus this next expansion on spaceship, and then come back to the establishments
Personally i couldn't care which came first, but i think spaceships first would silence a lot of whiners |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
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Posted - 2011.10.22 21:13:00 -
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I play RPGs because I like roleplay. This is an MMORPG. So, I roleplay a little as my odd Amarr lady who hates everyone...
I would like establishments and such if done well and completely (not another FW-like failure). Otherwise stick to space. |
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Prophet Runningclam
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Posted - 2011.10.22 21:21:00 -
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Yes. |
Euasked
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.22 21:30:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:Yes - I want player establishments and walking in stations. I subscribed 3 accounts before so called "Incarna release" and unsubscribed all of them due to strange prices in NeX shop and finding "myself" in jail cell a.k.a. "captain quarters".
Now the only way to see my accounts active is $4.95 discounted subscription fee (just to train skills) - or proper implementation of WiS. In simple words - I won't resubscribe for at least 8+ months because CCP doesn't have any plans to develop and deploy new content into the game - just debugs and re-balance (which won't affect my gameplay in any way) and 4 questionable ships which I don't really want.
It seems like CCP doesn't have capability to build WiS with actual gamplay - or doesn't want my $45/month, $500/year. Oh, well, I know some other companies who will gladly accept much less money for much better service.
I am sure the greater community will really miss you and everything you added to the eve universe. Hurry up and go play second life so we dont have to read any more of your whine posts. |
Sgt Maru
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.22 21:45:00 -
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WiS is important to EVE, not as important as FiS, but it's something that's been in work for so long, promised for so long, we've come so far, we can't turn back now. Let's fix EVE's FiS for a good while and let the devs work on WiS. |
foxnod
Brotherhood of the Coast
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Posted - 2011.10.22 22:20:00 -
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After this winter they still got to revisit the following.
1. FW
2. T3 (where's my t3 frigates and battleships?)
3. Lowsec (enough said)
4. Local/intel tools
5. all ships and stations to v3
6. boosters
7. incursian type content for the other pirate factions
8. new faction modules (where's my shadow serpentis damage control, or caldari navy gravimetric eccm?)
9. corp/alliance interface
10. updates to missile launcher and missile visual effects to bring them in line with the turrets
11. POS mechanics
12. mining specifically ice mining (it's ridiculous that a few high sec belts can supply 100% of the galaxy's isotope needs)
13. UI upgrades
I'd be willing to have more work done on WIS after they spend the next 3-5 expansions primarily focused on FIS. Keep a team on incarna and release more content for it when the code is optimized and there's actual gameplay (preferably with pvp). If there's no gameplay then it's just wasted dev time. |
Mystic5hadow
Koku Uchu Security
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Posted - 2011.10.22 22:26:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Yes to WiS and everything that comes along with it, such as player owned Establishments of Bars, Casinos, Markets, Security Offices with Brig, Promenade with Viewport, Hand to Hand Combat Arena, Corporate Conference Halls, etc.
No to laggy badly written half done coded content.
The whole idea is to turn a Space ship simulation game into a virtual real time sci-fi universe. This. This is what I picture for EVE, a full on Sci-fi/Space faring civilization simulator. Where you can do anything, from blowing up Titans in Null to being a manager of some tiny pub in some little known station frequented by pirates 
Since I know us Humans will never be a truly space faring civilization in my lifetime, I'd like if EVE were best able to at least provide me with a way to pretend like we really are that advanced. This also appears to be what CCP want(ed?).
One day, hopefully. |
Ikarus Gaul
Eiffel Integrated
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Posted - 2011.10.22 22:27:00 -
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I'm all for letting WiS roll out on a reduced schedule. FiS, and other existing "pain points" in the active part of the Eve game, should be the priority... and have been accepted as such by CCP.
It appears to me that a lot of people up to this point have considered the question of WiS vs. FiS in isolation of other factors at CCP. Investing more heavily in WiS made sense while CCP was also working on World of Darkness. Now that the WoD project has gone more or less into hibernation, developing WiS as a demo platform for WoD's underlying engine makes little sense. |
Mystic5hadow
Koku Uchu Security
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Posted - 2011.10.22 22:44:00 -
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Alright, so, a majority of you seem to want WiS but not at the cost of FiS it seems.
Okay, I can kind of agree with this but the only problem I see is that if some resources aren't taken away from FiS to work on WiS, then we'll never get WiS fully realized. Plus, you have to admit, there will almost certainly always be bugs and issues in EVE, as is the case with pretty much any game, especially one as complicated as EVE. So, if we never take away from FiS because we want CCP to always be working on bug fixes and whatnot, then when are we supposed to get WiS?
I understand the rage at CCP implementing CQ with nothing to do, but they do have to start somewhere before the base of WiS is put in place and they can expand on it, no? It's better than completely dropping updates while they work solely to fill out WiS. Instead we get minor updates and fixes while we wait.
I figure, once the basics of WiS are in place, we'll start to see a bunch of content for WiS and FiS. Or well, we would have, but CCP has dropped WiS it seems to focus on FiS for now, which is what the more vocal folks on these forums wanted.
Anyways, that's how I see things. As much as I hate lack of content, I can see the overall goal CCP wants to achieve and I figure if they needed some time to do it, they should have gotten it or maybe better explained their development roadmap to us. Even if they have been talking about WiS since 2006.
Though, I certainly can't complain about all the nifty stuff we should be getting in this Winter expansion. With or without Establishments. |
Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E.
The Lostboys
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Posted - 2011.10.23 04:11:00 -
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I was really looking forward to it. I hope we get something in some form soon. Eve is supposed to be a SiFi simulator. And as anyone who has seen a SiFi movie knows, people walk about in space stations as well as fly about in spaceships. Eve will never be complete without it. |
Jonni Favorite
Sundown Logistics
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.23 06:25:00 -
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Magnus Orin wrote:No. I play Eve to play in space, and blow up other people's space ships. Unless CCP can find a way to include that in establishments/Incarna, I say no, I do not want it in Eve.
Yeah, I think the OP's intention was to establish that this isn't YOUR private playground and other people might have a say in it..
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Flamespar
Woof Club
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Posted - 2011.10.23 08:42:00 -
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Jonni Favorite wrote:Magnus Orin wrote:No. I play Eve to play in space, and blow up other people's space ships. Unless CCP can find a way to include that in establishments/Incarna, I say no, I do not want it in Eve. Yeah, I think the OP's intention was to establish that this isn't YOUR private playground and other people might have a say in it..
OMG. Someone with a sensible opinion.
You sir, are a true EVE player.
I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
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