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Menelak Faf
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Posted - 2005.11.06 08:18:00 -
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Edited by: Menelak Faf on 06/11/2005 08:20:36
Database site thinger
Ship Equipment > Ammunition and Charges
Take your pick of advanced type, and be afraid.. very afraid.
Edit: Made clicky
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2005.11.06 08:49:00 -
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Edited by: The Wizz117 on 06/11/2005 08:55:18
 Originally by: Menelak Faf
Edited by: Menelak Faf on 06/11/2005 08:20:36
Database site thinger
Ship Equipment > Ammunition and Charges
Take your pick of advanced type, and be afraid.. very afraid.
Edit: Made clicky
afraid for what, the cruise missiles deal less damage points and in stead of having 50 hp they have 24 hp
the only advantage is that they are a liddle faster...
and they are way to expensive to use for mission runners.
these t2 missiles go on the junk-pile togeter with the basic items, the cap flux coil and the invulnerability field
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Rasitiln
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Posted - 2005.11.06 08:50:00 -
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 gankageddon with explosive damage.
/emote runs and hides
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AgiTra
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Posted - 2005.11.06 08:57:00 -
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That "Null L" (dont know if they are still looking for a name or its the actual name of the ammo  ) advance blaster ammo gonna boost Blasterthron big time: 25% range bonus. 25% falloff bonus, 0 cap usage and more damage then the current Antimater L. YAY
Finally, Blasterthron will be what it should have been long time ago: king of the hill in close combat.
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Heritor
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Posted - 2005.11.06 09:00:00 -
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There seems to be a hefty tracking penalty though
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2005.11.06 09:00:00 -
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why do the missiles not get t2 ammo? you cant mean that all these other guns get that cool t2 ammo and extra daamge and the t2 missiles are worse then the t1 missiles in evry way?
is somting wron on the database?
am i looking wrong?
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Toaster Oven
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Posted - 2005.11.06 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: AgiTra
That "Null L" (dont know if they are still looking for a name or its the actual name of the ammo ) advance blaster ammo gonna boost Blasterthron big time: 25% range bonus. 25% falloff bonus, 0 cap usage and more damage then the current Antimater L. YAY
Null ammo doesn't get any cap bonus, which means it uses the same amount of energy as antimatter. Sorry to burst your bubble 
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AgiTra
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Posted - 2005.11.06 09:33:00 -
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It says: Capacitor Need Bonus: -100%. Doesnt that mean NO CAP ?
As for tracking penalty, you have looked at a different one. Null doesnt have a tracking penalty listed on the DB.
Lets not forget that this numbers arent final. However i think the direction each new ammo aims its obvious. YAY again :P
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2005.11.06 09:40:00 -
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/me looks at all the people talking aboud theyr new cool t2 ammo and looks at his new t2 missiles 
why,just why do they keep over-nerfing caldari..
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.11.06 09:42:00 -
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Just because it's in the db doesn't mean it'll hit tq in that form, stop screaming that the sky is falling The Wizz ;\.
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Deep Slumber
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Posted - 2005.11.06 09:57:00 -
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think these ammo types have been in the DB for (at least) months now, if not more. I remember having been excited about finding them until older players than myself told me they've been in there for a long time.
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Toaster Oven
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Posted - 2005.11.06 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: AgiTra
It says: Capacitor Need Bonus: -100%. Doesnt that mean NO CAP ?
NO
hint: Look up Antimatter L
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.11.06 10:01:00 -
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T2 ammo has been in the db for a long time, yeah. I remember reading the stats from eve-i over a year ago - I think back then they just had different damage types though. The penalties and modifiers to tracking/falloff/shield hp etc. listed there at the moment are more recent I believe, but I have no idea if that means the last six months or last week. I'd still advise taking them with a pinch of salt ;p.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.11.06 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Deep Slumber
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think these ammo types have been in the DB for (at least) months now, if not more. I remember having been excited about finding them until older players than myself told me they've been in there for a long time.
me too.
about 6months back
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2005.11.06 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Deep Slumber
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think these ammo types have been in the DB for (at least) months now, if not more. I remember having been excited about finding them until older players than myself told me they've been in there for a long time.
me too.
about 6months back
ah.. good news
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Roba
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Posted - 2005.11.06 11:14:00 -
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I have a question, why in heck is there something called:
Quote:
Snowball MMIV
This snowball is bigger then your head. Its shape looks suspiciously like it could fit into a snowball launcher with great ease.
Max Velocity
1,000 m/sec
Detonation proximity
35 m
Thermal damage
246 HP
Max Flight Time
10,000 sec
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2005.11.06 11:18:00 -
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Theres no point even discussing T2 ammo since it has not been released yet.
Im hoping they will just be the same as T1 but with 10% more damage, and needing the relevant turret specialisation skill at 5 to fit them. 
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.11.06 11:19:00 -
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/me looks at Quake L and droooooools
But ahem Tracking penalty...yea..exactly what my 1400's need :|
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Roba
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Posted - 2005.11.06 11:29:00 -
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Another thought.
Has anyone considered what it will mean to be firing 300,000 isk missiles from your raven in pvp? Thats almost 2m isk per volly. With the nerfing of dmg mods and the massive buff to tanking you could actually spend more in ammo then the value of the enemies ship.
Well not likely, but well 20m isk per kill.
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Ralitge boyter
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Posted - 2005.11.06 11:54:00 -
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Looks line CCP is still working on them...
The heavy missiles look kinda ok... with a 125% extra flight time and slightly higher damage output they might just be worth the price.
Torps are looking quite well  but then again the initial mining barges looked at least as and they turned out to be worth having in the end. So I guess we will have to wait and see, but I am all for introducing this new ammo all that I hope is that instead of having only players building T2 ammo at least a singal racial corp will be selected for each kind of ammo and will be producing this (the core factions navy springs to mind) This way the market will not be ruled by the 4 or 5 major T2 producers out there and people wil be able to buy it instead of having to take a day off from work just to fly to and from their local suplier in their Freighter.
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Stephen HB
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Posted - 2005.11.06 12:12:00 -
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Relax people, T2 ammo has been in the database for >1 year, probably since Castor. Anything like this will need to be tested to hell and back before it is introduced.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.11.06 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Roba
Another thought.
Has anyone considered what it will mean to be firing 300,000 isk missiles from your raven in pvp? Thats almost 2m isk per volly. With the nerfing of dmg mods and the massive buff to tanking you could actually spend more in ammo then the value of the enemies ship.
Well not likely, but well 20m isk per kill.
somehow i doubt CCP will make a t2 missile cost 300k.
5k per missile would be too expensive
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.11.06 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Roba
Another thought.
Has anyone considered what it will mean to be firing 300,000 isk missiles from your raven in pvp? Thats almost 2m isk per volly. With the nerfing of dmg mods and the massive buff to tanking you could actually spend more in ammo then the value of the enemies ship.
Well not likely, but well 20m isk per kill.
somehow i doubt CCP will make a t2 missile cost 300k.
5k per missile would be too expensive
CCP wont effect the cost becasue they cant, the player-ruled market will dictate the price.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.06 17:25:00 -
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Sure they can, its caled mineral requirements :P
Or, component requirement in this case ^^
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Dimitri Forgroth
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Posted - 2005.11.06 17:37:00 -
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I want some Blaze M for meh zealot, plz.
20km range with explosive level of multifreq damage
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.11.06 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru
Sure they can, its caled mineral requirements :P
Or, component requirement in this case ^^
That doesnt help. Worst example is ofc cap-rechargers that cost a few hundred k to build, they sell for 15mill+ anyway ;)
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.06 17:44:00 -
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Ah, but they can set minimum price ;)
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Krulla
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Posted - 2005.11.06 19:35:00 -
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That ammo has been in the database for months - At least a year.
Don't panic - I'm sure CCP has more sense then that.
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Thudders
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Posted - 2005.11.06 19:49:00 -
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Snowballs look like the best new ammo.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.11.06 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Thudders
Snowballs look like the best new ammo.
thats old too. i think it was the devs having fun last winter
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