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Sub'Zero
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Posted - 2005.11.06 16:26:00 -
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does any1 know where they hangout?
thx
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.11.06 16:33:00 -
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in France 
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Cmdr Sy
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Posted - 2005.11.06 16:35:00 -
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Rens. 
No but seriously, you see them in the vicinity of Teonosude quite regularly. They like the look of GW, they want, they crave, but they cannot have... 
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SaorAlba
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Posted - 2005.11.06 16:36:00 -
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No comment
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Sub'Zero
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Posted - 2005.11.06 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Cmdr Sy Rens. 
No but seriously, you see them in the vicinity of Teonosude quite regularly. They like the look of GW, they want, they crave, but they cannot have... 
hehe,. thx
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2005.11.06 17:19:00 -
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Not sure of there whereabouts but they are a french alliance of some force.
Thorax FTW! Hi, I am your friendly neighbourhood spy! |

Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.06 19:28:00 -
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I don't know where they hang out, every time we find them, it seems they've retreated. - Proud member of the [23].
Don't get the reference in my sig? Click it.
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.11.06 20:34:00 -
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I had a pretty cool fight with some of them.
~Captain Cutie, HFS Event Horizon
Biomass fears me.
Sovereignty 2.0 |

CYVOK
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Posted - 2005.11.06 21:07:00 -
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Edited by: CYVOK on 06/11/2005 21:08:13 While in Iceland CLS discovered their HeadQuarters!!
http://www.celestial-horizon.net/other/French Alliance.jpg
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Yavannath
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Posted - 2005.11.06 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Sub'Zero does any1 know where they hangout?
thx
u know the eve mail ? stupid thread
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2005.11.06 21:16:00 -
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So... got anything to do with Cosmic Fusion wardeccing us? And you just realized that you don't have any intel to give them as to our whereabouts?  Or are you a -C-F- alt/friend fishing for info?
Originally by: Cmdr Sy They like the look of GW, they want, they crave, but they cannot have...
You can keep GW for yourself, we just like to shoot you guys and give Foundation a hand whenever we get the occasion. :)
--- Ortu Konsinni Diplomatic delegate French Force Alliance -- l'alliance des francophones Web site : http://destabiliser.com/ffa/ |

Leno
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Posted - 2005.11.06 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Ortu Konsinni So... got anything to do with Cosmic Fusion wardeccing us? And you just realized that you don't have any intel to give them as to our whereabouts?  Or are you a -C-F- alt/friend fishing for info?
Originally by: Cmdr Sy They like the look of GW, they want, they crave, but they cannot have...
You can keep GW for yourself, we just like to shoot you guys and give Foundation a hand whenever we get the occasion. :)
Did we really?
Go out of town for a few days and you learn about your wars from the forums. ---------------
RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2005.11.06 23:12:00 -
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Yeah, you did. I figure you got contracted by some disgruntled France-hater with too much ISK on his hands who wants to make our lives miserable for as long as he can afford to pay for your services, which I imagine don't come cheap. Because, frankly, I don't see any other reason why someone would want to hurt us. Oh well.
--- Ortu Konsinni Diplomatic delegate French Force Alliance -- l'alliance des francophones Web site : http://destabiliser.com/ffa/ |

Malken
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ortu Konsinni Yeah, you did. I figure you got contracted by some disgruntled France-hater with too much ISK on his hands who wants to make our lives miserable for as long as he can afford to pay for your services, which I imagine don't come cheap. Because, frankly, I don't see any other reason why someone would want to hurt us. Oh well.
you can always count on the french to blame someone else.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.11.07 06:55:00 -
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Aren't they in Gallente space?
Seriously though, if they're a problem just have [G] dec them and then take bets on how long until they surrender.
Sig modified due to xenophobic comments -Iacon
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Leno
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Posted - 2005.11.07 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog Aren't they in Gallente space?
Seriously though, if they're a problem just have [G] dec them and then take bets on how long until they surrender.
lol, was woundering when someone was going to go there... ---------------
RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog Aren't they in Gallente space?
Seriously though, if they're a problem just have [G] dec them and then take bets on how long until they surrender.
American, are we? ------------------------------------------- Sometimes, I wake up but keep on dreaming. |

Aloysius Knight
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:05:00 -
[18]
G'day
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Treebeard dk
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:12:00 -
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Edited by: Treebeard dk on 07/11/2005 09:11:51
Originally by: Ortu Konsinni Yeah, you did. I figure you got contracted by some disgruntled France-hater with too much ISK on his hands who wants to make our lives miserable for as long as he can afford to pay for your services, which I imagine don't come cheap. Because, frankly, I don't see any other reason why someone would want to hurt us. Oh well.
Being friends with Foundation would be more than enough reason to wardec you :) Which brings me to antoher question that just popped up, where is foundation?
Maybe the answer to that question and the one asked in the first post is the same......GONE?
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:21:00 -
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Pathetic to see many replies with just french-hating random trolls. Dunno where they hang.
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B orange
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:25:00 -
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Wonder or not, they hang in far part of Curse. They're easy, dec Section XIII too.. you'll fight both anyway.
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Reapo 2
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:29:00 -
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hehe i missed FF-A camping my alt was quite funny 
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super4lt
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:38:00 -
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I think the French haters are american no doubt.Its so typical
Super4lt is here to let yall know what time it is
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Dahin
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:09:00 -
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Last time I saw french force alliance was two weeks before [5] went down. I think we met them in a group of 20 mining somewhere in atuk space. Not sure though, cause we were doing the tour of the south at that time 
I remember thinking "the french are [5] mining slaves :(", so I think it was in their space. I remember hitting tenerifis after 20j, so I guess it was pretty low on the map. On the other hand, I could be mistaken.
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Treebeard dk
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dahin Last time I saw french force alliance was two weeks before [5] went down. I think we met them in a group of 20 mining somewhere in atuk space. Not sure though, cause we were doing the tour of the south at that time 
I remember thinking "the french are [5] mining slaves :(", so I think it was in their space. I remember hitting tenerifis after 20j, so I guess it was pretty low on the map. On the other hand, I could be mistaken.
You must be living in another world if you claim 5 "went down", if anything we went UP, that being up north, we never went down, we lived almost as far down as we could come   
And no, I did not misunderstood that "going down" part 
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Rhodry Amarrian
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:35:00 -
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I think I saw some around the CAMAL area (so that would fit in with them being around Curse i guess).
Funny how even a thread which has NOTHING at all to do with the [5]/enemies of [5] ends up with posts from one set or the other before you get past the first page - there ought to be a separate section of the forums just for them until this whole thing ends 
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog Aren't they in Gallente space?
Seriously though, if they're a problem just have [G] dec them and then take bets on how long until they surrender.
Would prolly take them longer to surrender than it did to ASCN traitors to get a NAP. now go back singing your NAP song would you ?
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:45:00 -
[28]
Oh right, Im sposed to hate on the french cause Im American. I forgot.
~Captain Cutie, HFS Event Horizon
Biomass fears me.
Sovereignty 2.0 |

ChefAce
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:49:00 -
[29]
WTS: French Army Rifle
Condition: Never used and only dropped once.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: ChefAce WTS: French Army Rifle
Condition: Never used and only dropped once.

I was trying to get back to ingame content with a little ASCN bashing post (made a while I had not done one) BUT of course we needed a guy like you to bring more of those stupid anti french jokes teinted by racism and xenophobia.
I shall not lower myself to tell you what I think of you and your jokes (mods wouldn't appreciate the vairety of my english vocabulary). I hope a mod will come to give the appropriate warning.
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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DjDangle
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:14:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Originally by: ChefAce WTS: French Army Rifle
Condition: Never used and only dropped once.

I was trying to get back to ingame content with a little ASCN bashing post (made a while I had not done one) BUT of course we needed a guy like you to bring more of those stupid anti french jokes teinted by racism and xenophobia.
I shall not lower myself to tell you what I think of you and your jokes (mods wouldn't appreciate the vairety of my english vocabulary). I hope a mod will come to give the appropriate warning.
/signed ------------
http://www.itfb.org/banner.jpg
"On My Signal, Unleash Hell"
-I speak for my corp. Not our Alliance- |

Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dahin Last time I saw french force alliance was two weeks before [5] went down. I think we met them in a group of 20 mining somewhere in atuk space. Not sure though, cause we were doing the tour of the south at that time 
I remember thinking "the french are [5] mining slaves :(", so I think it was in their space. I remember hitting tenerifis after 20j, so I guess it was pretty low on the map. On the other hand, I could be mistaken.
The truth is that ATUK's French Wing offered us a deal to mine in Detorid for a couple of weeks, which is exactly what we did. They kindly arranged it for us with their superiors. Thus we mined for a couple of weeks, paying only the reasonable refinery taxes. We are now no longer in Detorid, although we're not too far from there. Also, our standings with .5. have been set back to negative (as they were before the French Wing's offer) and have near-daily skirmishes with the small .5. presence in Curse.
And therefore: no, we aren't mining slaves of the Five, or even their friends :) Never have been, never will be.
--- Ortu Konsinni Diplomatic delegate French Force Alliance -- l'alliance des francophones Web site : http://destabiliser.com/ffa/ |

ChefAce
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
I was trying to get back to ingame content with a little ASCN bashing post (made a while I had not done one) BUT of course we needed a guy like you to bring more of those stupid anti french jokes teinted by racism and xenophobia.
I shall not lower myself to tell you what I think of you and your jokes (mods wouldn't appreciate the vairety of my english vocabulary). I hope a mod will come to give the appropriate warning.
It's called humor Mr. Snesitive. Get over it.
It's not like I said all French people are toupee wearing girly men for Christ sake.
And please, explain how that comment was racist? That would be like me saying someone who called all Americans lazy was a racist. Get over yourself.
You're probably one of those few ignorant people who have petitioned for someone to have their corp name changed. Get a clue.
Remove your pants and untie your panties before you have an embolisism.
Au revoir, Chef -------------
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Fire Hawk
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Fire Hawk on 07/11/2005 13:58:43
Originally by: Ortu Konsinni
Originally by: Dahin Last time I saw french force alliance was two weeks before [5] went down. I think we met them in a group of 20 mining somewhere in atuk space. Not sure though, cause we were doing the tour of the south at that time 
I remember thinking "the french are [5] mining slaves :(", so I think it was in their space. I remember hitting tenerifis after 20j, so I guess it was pretty low on the map. On the other hand, I could be mistaken.
The truth is that ATUK's French Wing offered us a deal to mine in Detorid for a couple of weeks, which is exactly what we did. They kindly arranged it for us with their superiors. Thus we mined for a couple of weeks, paying only the reasonable refinery taxes. We are now no longer in Detorid, although we're not too far from there. Also, our standings with .5. have been set back to negative (as they were before the French Wing's offer) and have near-daily skirmishes with the small .5. presence in Curse.
And therefore: no, we aren't mining slaves of the Five, or even their friends :) Never have been, never will be.
I confirm that.
And for all trolls around, if u cant be enough mature to keep your outgame feelings out of the forums, i'll start to petition all replies of that nature.
Afaik, they called themself French Force Alliance to be quickly recognized as a french speaking community. But I dont think they'll refuse any english pilot in their rank.
By the way, we playing same game and your motherlanguage, afaik, doesnt give you an advantage on the bf's.
And as you see, we can speak same language... _______________________________________________________ ATUK French Wing - Fear the french touch |

Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: ChefAce
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
I was trying to get back to ingame content with a little ASCN bashing post (made a while I had not done one) BUT of course we needed a guy like you to bring more of those stupid anti french jokes teinted by racism and xenophobia.
I shall not lower myself to tell you what I think of you and your jokes (mods wouldn't appreciate the vairety of my english vocabulary). I hope a mod will come to give the appropriate warning.
It's called humor Mr. Snesitive. Get over it.
It's not like I said all French people are toupee wearing girly men for Christ sake.
And please, explain how that comment was racist? That would be like me saying someone who called all Americans lazy was a racist. Get over yourself.
You're probably one of those few ignorant people who have petitioned for someone to have their corp name changed. Get a clue.
Remove your pants and untie your panties before you have an embolisism.
Au revoir, Chef
humor = supposed to be funny. Your sense of humor is misplaced in what is supposed to be forums for a game. Your comment was based on nationality and as far as i'm concerned does not suit game forums at all.
Now you're trying to look good by adding more and more crap to this. Just apologize, remove your comment and get over it: your sense of humor sucks.
That kind of jokes/comments are stupid, whatever nationality they may target (I guess german players know what I'm talking about).
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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ChefAce
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:19:00 -
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Sod off.
I'm not apologizing for a damn thing.
Just because you or others don't find it amusing doesn't mean anything to me.
Go get bent please.
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Toyal Wiulaz
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:40:00 -
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Quote: Afaik, they called themself French Force Alliance to be quickly recognized as a french speaking community. But I dont think they'll refuse any english pilot in their rank.
By the way, we playing same game and your motherlanguage, afaik, doesnt give you an advantage on the bf's.
And as you see, we can speak same language...
/signed
A simple question at the start, and now we get a nice threads about lame french jokes. CCP should not allow kids unders 18 years to post on the forums. Oh and btw, im french canadian. Grow up kids!
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TARREX
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:44:00 -
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the **** does not reach the wings of the white dove...
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TARREX
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:45:00 -
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hmmm the five**** does not reach the wings of the white dove
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:54:00 -
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I think it was mid to late september when French force alliance miners (haulers, mining barges, ospreys, apocs, ec etc..) were escorted down into curse by ATUK... I remember they moved through doril in one gang of roughly 50. The next time i saw them almost a month later they were in GW safespotted between V fleets.
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TARREX
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:05:00 -
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you should stop drinking
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Raid I think it was mid to late september when French force alliance miners (haulers, mining barges, ospreys, apocs, ec etc..) were escorted down into curse by ATUK... I remember they moved through doril in one gang of roughly 50. The next time i saw them almost a month later they were in GW safespotted between V fleets.
Originally by: TARREX you should stop drinking
Well, um, what Raid said is pretty accurate, actually...
--- Ortu Konsinni Diplomatic delegate French Force Alliance -- l'alliance des francophones Web site : http://destabiliser.com/ffa/ |

Omeega
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Posted - 2005.11.07 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Toyal Wiulaz
Quote: Afaik, they called themself French Force Alliance to be quickly recognized as a french speaking community. But I dont think they'll refuse any english pilot in their rank.
By the way, we playing same game and your motherlanguage, afaik, doesnt give you an advantage on the bf's.
And as you see, we can speak same language...
/signed
A simple question at the start, and now we get a nice threads about lame french jokes. CCP should not allow kids unders 18 years to post on the forums. Oh and btw, im french canadian. Grow up kids!
STFU YOU ARE RUSSIAN!!!!1111
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Skape Gote
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Posted - 2005.11.07 16:46:00 -
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Dont upset FFA cos if you do, to quote the Kaiser Chiefs, I predict a riot. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guess I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue...... |

Toyal Wiulaz
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:03:00 -
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Omeega: i'm working on it. Give me 2-3 years to understand russe!
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zincol
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:03:00 -
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Edited by: zincol on 07/11/2005 17:03:46 Alliance name is agaiest EULA.
Gm's Please change the alliance name ^^       
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Sub'Zero
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog Aren't they in Gallente space?
Seriously though, if they're a problem just have [G] dec them and then take bets on how long until they surrender.
  
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Navdaq
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: super4lt I think the French haters are american no doubt.Its so typical
But it's OK to hate Americans, right?
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super4lt
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Navdaq
Originally by: super4lt I think the French haters are american no doubt.Its so typical
But it's OK to hate Americans, right?
whos talking about hating anyone?
Dont be silly.
Super4lt is here to let yall know what time it is
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Navdaq
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:35:00 -
[50]
Originally by: super4lt
Originally by: Navdaq
Originally by: super4lt I think the French haters are american no doubt.Its so typical
But it's OK to hate Americans, right?
whos talking about hating anyone?
Dont be silly.
Don't be silly yourself.
You should apologize to all American AND French players for your comment. You're only trying to stir up hate between them.
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super4lt
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:48:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Navdaq
Originally by: super4lt
Originally by: Navdaq
Originally by: super4lt I think the French haters are american no doubt.Its so typical
But it's OK to hate Americans, right?
whos talking about hating anyone?
Dont be silly.
Don't be silly yourself.
You should apologize to all American AND French players for your comment. You're only trying to stir up hate between them.
What are you on about? Did someone drop you on your head when you were a baby or something?
Super4lt is here to let yall know what time it is
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Navdaq
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Posted - 2005.11.07 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: super4lt
Originally by: Navdaq
Originally by: super4lt
Originally by: Navdaq
Originally by: super4lt I think the French haters are american no doubt.Its so typical
But it's OK to hate Americans, right?
whos talking about hating anyone?
Dont be silly.
Don't be silly yourself.
You should apologize to all American AND French players for your comment. You're only trying to stir up hate between them.
What are you on about? Did someone drop you on your head when you were a baby or something?
Racist statements and childish insults.
Nice work. Is there anything else you would like the Eve community to know about you?
I flush my waste straight to space.
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2005.11.07 18:16:00 -
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They used to hang around minmitar space, I killed one of their munnins in my rax, I am preety bad at so it was a good day for me.
Thorax FTW! Hi, I am your friendly neighbourhood spy! |

Cmdr Sy
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Posted - 2005.11.07 18:16:00 -
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I am appalled by the shameful xenophobia on display, and ChefAce clearly needs reporting to the Mods for his remarks. 
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super4lt
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Posted - 2005.11.08 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Navdaq
childish insults.
It was a genuine question. Im fearing you suffer from some sorts of brain damage.
Quote:
Nice work. Is there anything else you would like the Eve community to know about you?
Yes. Yes there is.
I'm an alt and I like sunsets and walks in the park. My favorite color is marine blue and I'm very down to earth.
Turn on`s : red vine close to a fire place.
Turn off`s : bad personal hygiene.
Super4lt is here to let yall know what time it is
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Wulfgard
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Posted - 2005.11.08 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: ChefAce Sod off.
I'm not apologizing for a damn thing.
Just because you or others don't find it amusing doesn't mean anything to me.
Go get bent please.
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Goldar
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Posted - 2005.11.08 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Cmdr Sy I am appalled by the shameful xenophobia on display, and ChefAce clearly needs reporting to the Mods for his remarks. 

OMG get over yourself. Nothing wrong with a little light hearted banter.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.08 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/11/2005 01:24:10
Originally by: dimensionZ Pathetic to see many replies with just french-hating random trolls. Dunno where they hang.
Joking about the French != French hating.
I personally have no problem with the French, neither do I with the English, Germans, Americans, Japanese, Chinese or anyone.
However, making jokes about the French is funny. Even the French realize that. Making jokes about the British is also funny. Making jokes about Americans is also funny.
I don't have problems when anyone makes jokes about my country. Why should you? - Proud member of the [23].
Don't get the reference in my sig? Click it.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.11.08 01:43:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
I don't have problems when anyone makes jokes about my country. Why should you?
Because it inevitably turns into a flame-fest on the forums when somebody makes fun of some country other than his own (or even his own, on these forums)?
I personally wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole, funny or not. ------------------------------------------- Sometimes, I wake up but keep on dreaming. |

Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2005.11.08 02:25:00 -
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I may be biased in this, but anyway: it's one thing to cr ack jokes about the French, the Americans, the British or whatever, and I have no problem with that (although personally I think it's best to avoid them altogether in public as it's bound to make problems one way or another). Jokes about the French typically revolve around several things: for example, our alleged lack of hygiene, or our arrogance. In essence, that's all perfectly fine to joke about despite the fact that it annoys me as a Frenchman (sorry, I'm just sensitive like that), because it's mostly harmless as Adams would say.
However, another type of joke about the French revolves around us surrendering all the time and generally being bad soldiers, and that is not acceptable considering our historical background which the authors of the jokes conveniently (or genuinely) ignore. If you consider just the 20th century, WW1 was very hard and traumatizing for us (and everyone else involved) but we never gave up.
As for WW2, we surrendered because there was no hope left. Most would've done the same given the circumstances, and I believe that claiming otherwise is the illusion of one whose country has never been invaded. Bad planning, major strategic errors, poor intelligence work and the Germans simply having a better plan did not leave us with much margin, and while the ideal of defending your home to the last man is commendable, I rather agree that it was better to cut our losses and protect civilians as best as possible seeing as how we would've been defeated anyway. Calling us cowards at the time, and even to this day, is an insult to the memory of the ones who died defending France and I'm afraid I cannot accept that kind of joke, for all the world cares (which I'm aware isn't much, but I'll still state my opinion regardless, like it or not).
I'll skip mentioning the other, much less important conflicts which France was involved in during the 20th century and let you reflect on everything that took place before the 20th century, which is pretty similar to the military history of every other European nation, i.e. a mix of victories, ties and defeats, i.e. nothing special.
All in all, by now I've grown used to that kind of comment and I simply ignore them, but it still does and always will annoy me. And while I understand that everyone needs to target jokes at someone -- why were WE picked as the alleged worst cowards of history, of all things? Hairy/smelly women, wigs, moustaches, berets, striped shirts, baguette, etc. can all be funny in their own right, but the memory of dead soldiers is not ok to joke about, whether they're French or not.
--- Ortu Konsinni Diplomatic delegate French Force Alliance -- l'alliance des francophones Web site : http://destabiliser.com/ffa/ |

Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.08 02:36:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/11/2005 02:36:13
Originally by: Ortu Konsinni I may be biased in this, but anyway: it's one thing to cr ack jokes about the French, the Americans, the British or whatever, and I have no problem with that (although personally I think it's best to avoid them altogether in public as it's bound to make problems one way or another). Jokes about the French typically revolve around several things: for example, our alleged lack of hygiene, or our arrogance. In essence, that's all perfectly fine to joke about despite the fact that it annoys me as a Frenchman (sorry, I'm just sensitive like that), because it's mostly harmless as Adams would say.
However, another type of joke about the French revolves around us surrendering all the time and generally being bad soldiers, and that is not acceptable considering our historical background which the authors of the jokes conveniently (or genuinely) ignore. If you consider just the 20th century, WW1 was very hard and traumatizing for us (and everyone else involved) but we never gave up.
As for WW2, we surrendered because there was no hope left. Most would've done the same given the circumstances, and I believe that claiming otherwise is the illusion of one whose country has never been invaded. Bad planning, major strategic errors, poor intelligence work and the Germans simply having a better plan did not leave us with much margin, and while the ideal of defending your home to the last man is commendable, I rather agree that it was better to cut our losses and protect civilians as best as possible seeing as how we would've been defeated anyway. Calling us cowards at the time, and even to this day, is an insult to the memory of the ones who died defending France and I'm afraid I cannot accept that kind of joke, for all the world cares (which I'm aware isn't much, but I'll still state my opinion regardless, like it or not).
I'll skip mentioning the other, much less important conflicts which France was involved in during the 20th century and let you reflect on everything that took place before the 20th century, which is pretty similar to the military history of every other European nation, i.e. a mix of victories, ties and defeats, i.e. nothing special.
All in all, by now I've grown used to that kind of comment and I simply ignore them, but it still does and always will annoy me. And while I understand that everyone needs to target jokes at someone -- why were WE picked as the alleged worst cowards of history, of all things? Hairy/smelly women, wigs, moustaches, berets, striped shirts, baguette, etc. can all be funny in their own right, but the memory of dead soldiers is not ok to joke about, whether they're French or not.
I think its because the French got the short end of the stick over and over throughout history, and thus ended up being the ones to lose and every single time.
Of course that has now become a cliche, that "France surrenders" or French Military Victories.
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Navdaq
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Posted - 2005.11.08 03:53:00 -
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Originally by: super4lt I think the French haters are american no doubt.Its so typical
super4lt you seem to have a fixation on brain damage so I'll make this as easy as possible for you to understand. See if you can detect a pattern in the following statements:
I think the Jew haters are German no doubt.Its so typical
I think the Christian haters are Muslim no doubt.Its so typical
I think the Black haters are White no doubt.Its so typical
I hope you're not walking in circles and bumping into stuff. I'd like to see you figure out how stupid your original statement was.
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Mak'shar Karrde
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Posted - 2005.11.08 04:00:00 -
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Just because people can set up a pretty little Google Bomb doesn't make it any more accurate. I imagine that most people that find 'french military victories' in google to be amusing or accurate don't think the same about the 'failure' Google Bomb. Although... Nope, no politics. Damn.
[Edited out. Sometimes i can't help but get political, it's a curse]
It may have started out as a harmless joke alongside stupid Irishmen, Englishmen with bad teeth, Germans with no sense of humour etc. But now it's no longer funny because too many people actually believe it to be true, without knowing f-all about history. That's the point where the joke needs to stop, like some other poster mentioned it begins to demean the actions of those troops that gave their lives in an attempt to defend their country. And mine. And yours. It's no longer funny.
Cheese eating surrender monkeys, my arse.
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Aloysius Knight
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Posted - 2005.11.08 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mak'shar Karrde Just because people can set up a pretty little Google Bomb doesn't make it any more accurate. I imagine that most people that find 'french military victories' in google to be amusing or accurate don't think the same about the 'failure' Google Bomb. Although... Nope, no politics. Damn.
[Edited out. Sometimes i can't help but get political, it's a curse]
It may have started out as a harmless joke alongside stupid Irishmen, Englishmen with bad teeth, Germans with no sense of humour etc. But now it's no longer funny because too many people actually believe it to be true, without knowing f-all about history. That's the point where the joke needs to stop, like some other poster mentioned it begins to demean the actions of those troops that gave their lives in an attempt to defend their country. And mine. And yours. It's no longer funny.
Cheese eating surrender monkeys, my arse.
well i don't care about history, and well i take the **** outa everyone, just how i am, and i don't mean it in a bad way, just joking around like....and how can you talk to willie like that 
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Doc Punkiller
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Posted - 2005.11.08 10:16:00 -
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Thread has been hijacked by stoopids as usual...
If i can add a small comment i would say that this is not specific to eve forums, but as a matter of fact, as soon as a French related news appears on a public forum, there is allways one or two stupid teen to ruin the thread.
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super4lt
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Posted - 2005.11.08 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Navdaq
Originally by: super4lt I think the French haters are american no doubt.Its so typical
super4lt you seem to have a fixation on brain damage so I'll make this as easy as possible for you to understand. See if you can detect a pattern in the following statements:
I think the Jew haters are German no doubt.Its so typical
I think the Christian haters are Muslim no doubt.Its so typical
I think the Black haters are White no doubt.Its so typical
I hope you're not walking in circles and bumping into stuff. I'd like to see you figure out how stupid your original statement was.
Save your Fox-News retoric for someone else. The only people in the free world that has a problem with France today is Americans because France refused to join you in your illegal war.
Got WMD?
Super4lt is here to let yall know what time it is
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.08 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/11/2005 15:06:45
Originally by: super4lt
Originally by: Navdaq
Originally by: super4lt I think the French haters are american no doubt.Its so typical
super4lt you seem to have a fixation on brain damage so I'll make this as easy as possible for you to understand. See if you can detect a pattern in the following statements:
I think the Jew haters are German no doubt.Its so typical
I think the Christian haters are Muslim no doubt.Its so typical
I think the Black haters are White no doubt.Its so typical
I hope you're not walking in circles and bumping into stuff. I'd like to see you figure out how stupid your original statement was.
Save your Fox-News retoric for someone else. The only people in the free world that has a problem with France today is Americans because France refused to join you in your illegal war.
Please don't get politics into this.
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Roxanne
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Posted - 2005.11.08 15:10:00 -
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Actually, anyone who knows even a little bit of history would never fall for the stupid prejudices about french military might. France has dominated western european warfare for a long time and was involved in many a conflict. Yes, they did lose some and win others, as did every freaking nation but these stupid "french surrender" jokes simply betray the poster as an ignoramus excellentus. Every single person who believes that has obviously no worthwhile historic education or ignores his knowledge on purpose.
Given the amount of jokes with that theme on the internet, this throws a very, very bleak picture of the so-called information elite. I can only forward people who want to fill the gaps in their knowledge to Wikipedia.
No, I am not french. I am from europe though.
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Roxanne
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Posted - 2005.11.08 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
I think its because the French got the short end of the stick over and over throughout history
No, they did not. Funny that people still believe notions like this.
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.11.08 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: super4lt Save your Fox-News retoric for someone else. The only people in the free world that has a problem with France today is Americans because France refused to join you in your illegal war.
Got WMD?
You are no better than the people bashing the french.. and you cant even see that...
But whatever... this thread no longer serves a useful purpose...
PLEASE lock this garbage before it spreads more hate!
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.08 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/11/2005 15:40:06
Originally by: Roxanne
Originally by: Dark Shikari
I think its because the French got the short end of the stick over and over throughout history
No, they did not. Funny that people still believe notions like this.
They got Britian to fight them for 100 years.
When Germany fought during world war I, which countries suffered the most (other than Germany)? France and Russia.
When Germany invaded Europe at the start of WW2, which was the first major European power affected? Well of course, France.
Which major European power was occupied for 4 years during World War 2? France, of course.
Who was led into a revolution, fought wars for 20 years, and then was finally defeated and put back under an oppressive monarchy after two decades of fighting for their freedom, AND just after watching America do it successfully? France, of course.
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super4lt
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Posted - 2005.11.08 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
, AND just after watching America do it successfully? France, of course.
LMAO if it werent for French support you would still be under the English Queen.
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super4lt
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Posted - 2005.11.08 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Raid
You are no better than the people bashing the french.. and you cant even see that...
But I am better.
Infact im super, hence the name SUPER4lt.
Super4lt is here to let yall know what time it is
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.08 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: super4lt
Originally by: Dark Shikari
, AND just after watching America do it successfully? France, of course.
LMAO if it werent for French support you would still be under the English Queen.
Correct. That makes it all the worse.
France helps America gain independence, then France fights for 20 years and ends up losing. Conclusion: They had the short end of the stick. America had it easy, and France did it all alone in a hostile continent and ended up losing. - Proud member of the [23].
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2005.11.08 16:08:00 -
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Political discussions aren't welcome on the E-O forums, period.
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