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Geralt Rivia
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Posted - 2005.11.07 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Next thing we know E X O D U S will be forbidden cause it's "named after an expansion of a certain MMOG" (although we were first to make the corp).
And I'm sure I've seen corps like Microsoft Corporation, Xanadu, The Sovjet Union, etc... around to. All forbidden now?
Ridiculous. (Think I've said it before in another thread...)
Not yet 
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.11.07 16:31:00 -
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Gotta shake my head at this... There must have been someoen complaining about the name for the GM's o change it. S.A.S has been very vocal on the forums ana dactive in game... there is no question the GM's have seen their name before and done nothing.. Why now? Obviously someone has complained and whoever that was must have had a damn good reason for doing so...
In any case i dont think changing the identity of a group of people should be done on the complaint of just a single person. Changing a corporation name is a HUGE deal.. its not like changing a character name.. it can effect hwo they do business or how the interact with other organizations... Imagine if they changed the name of NAGA... the inpact ingame would be profound... Think very hard before changing the name of a corporation.
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Fred Flintstone
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Posted - 2005.11.07 16:35:00 -
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guess mine wont last that long either  _________________________________
Yabba Dabba Doooooo!!!!!
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.07 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Dianabolic @Drilla:
Actually, I think the swastika is perfectly fine to wear or display - if people are ignorant of its meaning then tough.
2 things to say on this subject:
1 - I agree with Deathwing, CCP - this is a bridge too far, your GM team needs some serious re-education, they are failing in some pretty BIG ways which is undoing alot of the very good, effective and efficient work they do.
2 - Offence can never be given, it can only be taken. The people that play this game, more than any other I have experienced, have minds of their own. If something offends them, then that's their problem - not yours and it sure as hell isn't ours.
Only you will visit the jail when you wear it in germany 
Oh, without doubt, and in others women are stoned for showing their face...
This action has effectively enraged the whole community (the one that uses the forums anyway) to concede ONE person's vendetta.
This person has exploited the petition system to gain cheap points. He should be banned.
its just if thy would allow them in bios or so, Eve-Online will be not only 18+, it will be forbidden in this country 
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Love Ya
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Posted - 2005.11.07 16:44:00 -
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Scraches my head .... where is the MODS/GM/CCP to take a stance on this matter why they keeping a low profile ????
CCP/GM stop hidding we want an answer ....like today.
thanks
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Selpy
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:03:00 -
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you know, I find this funny as hell, those GM's must be bored as hell to go and pull this on 4S and S.A.S, I mean, how long does a daniel jackson thread or <insert alt here> thread's get whacked with a *click* on the first page? This thread's gone on for 7 pages now, with not a peep from CCP/ISD.
So what gives? think CCP/GM's stepped on thier customers toes and are afraid to admit it?
[Selpy hand's the GM's a set of......]
Put the nerf bat down for 5 minutes and actually THINK about what your doing, your alienating your customer base, methink's that nerf bat is in violation of a toy company's (R)(TM), someone should take THAT away from the dev's :P
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00Dead
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Love Ya Scraches my head .... where is the MODS/GM/CCP to take a stance on this matter why they keeping a low profile ????
CCP/GM stop hidding we want an answer ....like today.
thanks
The low profile is due to the mighty balls up that CCP have landed themselves in.
They are chosen to nuke 2 corp names when many many much more worse and offensive names exist (players or corps).
THIS IS A GAME - Neither names are literally offensive - GIVE THEM THEIR NAMES BACK AND LETS MOVE ON.
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:19:00 -
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It's probably not locked because it would be seen as a tacit (whether true or not) admission that the chaps and chapesses dropped the proverbial ball.
They'll let us rant and whine and bleat until the thread dies it's own death or they'll let it ride for a while then lock it once the community has vented it's spleen.
For the record, bad move CCP.
Having said that, it's not like knee-jerk moderation EVER happens now does it?
your sarcasm module deactivates due to the point being made
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:19:00 -
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I'm collecting corpnames that in some way or form can be considered copyrighted, military or offensive.
If S.A.S' name is not returned by friday I'll petiton each and every one of them.
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XBG Holding
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:21:00 -
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Ok feel free to change the name of my corp(Praetorian Black Guard)as it was a Roman military origanizatin and feel free to ban the ceo(me)while your at it
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slip66
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Baun Edited by: Baun on 07/11/2005 05:16:06 Sigh, this is stupid and disrespectful.
GMs, Devs or anyone else should not act capriciously and treat their customers with no respect. If there are real reasons that names need to be changed than the people who run this game need to publically state them and give the community a chance to have input on them before they start altering people's corp names willy nilly.
(and yes, even if the rules have been there, for the case of S.A.S, not 4S, because they haven't been enforced in 2.5 years, the GMs cannot just act on them at random)
sums it up for me. This is BS. So if me and my corp mates make a corp called "Coast Guard" that will get banned? wtf CCP.
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fl0pski
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:31:00 -
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Dear CCP, you are in violation with your own EULA. One of your drones is named after a militairy battalion. I quote "moron" from IRC.
<moron> http://www.military.com/HomePage/UnitCreatedPage/0,11003,705737,00.html - Hammerhead Battalion ;)
Please change the name to Drone 008.
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Nadar
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:31:00 -
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CCP will have to change the names of pretty much all the ships now. EVE has TONS of rip-offs, so I can only assume they will be changed aswell?
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Fortune Fader
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:34:00 -
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Edited by: Fortune Fader on 07/11/2005 17:35:07 This is the part where 4S make sence, in some global logic "ONLY UNITY WILL SAVE US". Like this happend to 4S and SAS, it can strike almost EVERY corp in EVE, and that is the worst thing here.
Some action must take place, to prevent such BS, That is why we should stop just blabing about it here, and DEMAND explenation, and withdraw of this name-changes !
CCP, WE WANT ANSWERS, AND WE WANT THEM NOW !!!!!
IF YOU CLOSE THIS TOPIC, WE WILL OPEN ANOTHER, AND ANOTHER, UNTIL WE GET OUR ANSWER !!!!
THINK TWICE BEFORE MAKING YOUR RUSHED MISTAKES LIKE IN THIS TWO CASES (4S and SAS) BECOUSE PEOPLE DONT WANT TO PAY YOU TO GET DEGRADED LIKE THIS.
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Ryiah Thesa
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:35:00 -
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This is so incredibly dumb. Give me ANY GM name or corp or EVE ships or NPC corps. They are ALL in violation of your own policy. Because the policy is dumb.
5 mins with Google and you can find real life references to ANYTHING.
Give them their name back, change the policy and learn from your mistakes instead of ****ing off the whole community. 
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fl0pski
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:43:00 -
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http://www.arcane-tech.com Copyright ® 2002-2005 Arcane Technologies, Inc.
I hope one of you Caldari Corp 009 Errr ATUK members are the owner of this company.
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LcGhK9
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:47:00 -
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Edited by: LcGhK9 on 07/11/2005 17:47:17
Originally by: fl0pski http://www.arcane-tech.com Copyright ® 2002-2005 Arcane Technologies, Inc.
I hope one of you Caldari Corp 009 Errr ATUK members are the owner of this company.
http://www.nbsicorp.com/
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fl0pski
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: LcGhK9 Edited by: LcGhK9 on 07/11/2005 17:47:17
Originally by: fl0pski http://www.arcane-tech.com Copyright ® 2002-2005 Arcane Technologies, Inc.
I hope one of you Caldari Corp 009 Errr ATUK members are the owner of this company.
sorry I didnt know Not Blue Shoot It referred to that company.
http://www.nbsicorp.com/
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Carth Jared
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: fl0pski
Originally by: LcGhK9 Edited by: LcGhK9 on 07/11/2005 17:47:17
Originally by: fl0pski http://www.arcane-tech.com Copyright ® 2002-2005 Arcane Technologies, Inc.
I hope one of you Caldari Corp 009 Errr ATUK members are the owner of this company.
sorry I didnt know Not Blue Shoot It referred to that company.
http://www.nbsicorp.com/
Doesnt really matter does it... Its the same names hence ur in the same boat as us ;) cept its ur alliance and its our corp ofc..
ATUK | The 5
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LcGhK9
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: fl0pski
Originally by: LcGhK9 Edited by: LcGhK9 on 07/11/2005 17:47:17
Originally by: fl0pski http://www.arcane-tech.com Copyright ® 2002-2005 Arcane Technologies, Inc.
I hope one of you Caldari Corp 009 Errr ATUK members are the owner of this company.
sorry I didnt know Not Blue Shoot It referred to that company.
http://www.nbsicorp.com/
no its doesnt, but i thought it was funny.
twunt.
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fl0pski
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:57:00 -
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just want atuk to come blob around our bonfire in Rens. <3
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Marcus Grisbius
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:58:00 -
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The issue comes down to a couple things. First, CCP can't possibly scan through all the corp and player names to filter which ones mean something offensive or not. Thus, they rely on a petition system that allows people to voice their offense and then if it has merit a change can be made. There are a great many corp or player names, as has been noted, that COULD be found offensive. They may not have been petitioned yet.
Secondly, military and political connections need to be made using common sense. While using a name from the US military such as Marines or the like would probably be allowed, making a name like Abu-Ghraib Guards would be HIGHLY offensive to people. It DOES have a lot to do with context and connotations, just as Nafri made clear with the swastika. The connotations surrounding 4S could be VERY emotionally charged for certain people who may have suffered from the evil military group rather than just have a hatred for all Serbs.
There have also been other corps names that have have been changed in the past and it hasnt been only recently that CCP have started doing this. Israeli Defense Force was forced to change names. People's Front of Judea was also changed I believe (iirc they're People's Front of Minmatar now). There was an Al-qaeda spoof corp that had it's named changed as well.
It all comes down whether there is reasonable justification for CCP to change the name. And that is only down in response to a complaint. It's well within their right to do so as stated in the EULA and just because you've had the name for a long time doesnt guarantee that your name isnt highly offensive to someone for a good reason. I agree that it's very annoying but it's a risk that you take when using a RL connection in corp naming. Most of the time it won't be a problem, but there will always be the possibility.
Certainty of death... little chance of success... what are we waiting for? - Gimli, son of Gloinn |

Shinoobie
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Posted - 2005.11.07 18:20:00 -
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Edited by: Shinoobie on 07/11/2005 18:20:55 They remove S.A.S. and leave characters called.....
Taliban *****h BinLadenBigSister ****face ****bag ******up ****youcouch***** ****me ****'me'im'bad ******* ****Face5000 ********** ****inuup ****Japan ****Off etc... on the F**K's ****er etc... on the W*****r's (you get my point) Royal Marine
I do not expect to receive any forms of warnings for posting those as they are taken from CCP's game and are valid characters ingame and can post on these forums. I am just quoting names directly from the game, and have not actually used the offensive words myself.
CCP Please look how ridiculous you are making yourselves look. I do appreciate a certain amount of moderation is required. But just look above, you have more important offenders to deal with.
Sad, so very sad.
Edit - Lol even the forum censors blank out names taken from their own game!!! ROFL http://img208.exs.cx/img208/1889/siggy9ox.jpg Shuttles 
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Sergi
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Posted - 2005.11.07 18:50:00 -
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What can I say? 8)
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.07 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Selpy you know, I find this funny as hell, those GM's must be bored as hell to go and pull this on 4S and S.A.S, I mean, how long does a daniel jackson thread or <insert alt here> thread's get whacked with a *click* on the first page? This thread's gone on for 7 pages now, with not a peep from CCP/ISD.
So what gives? think CCP/GM's stepped on thier customers toes and are afraid to admit it?
[Selpy hand's the GM's a set of......]
Put the nerf bat down for 5 minutes and actually THINK about what your doing, your alienating your customer base, methink's that nerf bat is in violation of a toy company's (R)(TM), someone should take THAT away from the dev's :P
probably thy are smart enough to make a no confrontion policy on this matter, locking posts about it would cause several grief in the community and will cause lots of anger --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:18:00 -
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This is the next logical step in eve. In fact, the new BPO's have begun dropping, see below 
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Malken
Originally by: Muthsera RL link to military organisation.
that would mean that "Band of Brothers" alliance would be in violation of the rule also as it is a registered trademark anme for a TV show.
when will the GM madness end ? if you are going to do them then do them all or do none.
TV isnt rl 
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torpedo
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:32:00 -
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WTS: new skill ! Corporation Name Smuggling +10% chance of going through CCP's filter per level.
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Amon Evakrace
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Deathwing Edited by: Deathwing on 07/11/2005 06:03:43 "Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups"
InterBus - http://www.interbus.co.nz/ http://www.interbusonline.com/ http://www.interbus.com.pl/
ORE - http://www.ore.com/ http://www.ore-inc.com/ http://www.oreresearch.com.au/main.htm
Echelon Entertainment - http://www.echelonent.com/
Mercantile Club - http://www.mercantile-club.com/
Senate and Supreme Court Corporations in the Gallente Federation, im sure we are all aware that many countries have in their governmental body a "Senate" and a "Supreme Court" so that to would also be emulating a real-world group
If CCP wants to play on semantics, i can spend more then 5 minutes scrolling thru CCP created NPC corp names and googling stuff and finding references to rl groups and organizations
in closing
give them their names back sit down and stfu
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: torpedo WTS: new skill ! Corporation Name Smuggling +10% chance of going through CCP's filter per level.
LMAO.. SoonÖ
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