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Zarthanon
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Posted - 2005.11.07 04:42:00 -
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This is confusing the hell out of me. First, 4S corp--who's name translated means someting atone to "We stand United"... now Zincol's corpn SAS has been changed to "Caldari Corporation 008. Is there someone out there just looking for acronym's for people's corps' that are something bad, petitioning it and having the names removed? 2 prominent corps that have been around since pretty much the start of the game, getting their names changed 2 and a half years later?! This has got to stop TBH...
 Originally by: ParMizaN
i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk
Originally by: Buddrow
TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.11.07 04:56:00 -
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1st! And Agreed!
-Druid
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.07 04:56:00 -
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We're working on it. I'll let you know what is desided.
But there will be hell to pay if we're singled out on this.
Becus there is so many in breech of this rule that it's not even funny.
SoonÖ
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.11.07 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
We're working on it. I'll let you know what is desided.
But there will be hell to pay if we're singled out on this.
Becus there is so many in breech of this rule that it's not even funny.
Out of curiosity (and because it's boring as hell at work 11pm on a sunday) what's the justification you've been given on the name change reason. Be as vague as possible perhaps quote some rules so teh forum gestapo can allow the response.
Would you mind? I am actually curious.
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juduzz
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:00:00 -
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signz0red 
Its stupid TBH
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:00:00 -
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RL link to military organisation.
SoonÖ
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Zarthanon
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
RL link to military organisation.
And did we ever get confirmation on 4S's... or does it have to do with real life link to being proud of and supportive of the country you live in? Complete BS if you ask me.
Originally by: ParMizaN
i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk
Originally by: Buddrow
TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:07:00 -
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I can't awnser for the 4s situation. But on S.A.S I feel this is rather unjust.
I feel there have to be something more to the justification of the banning that just the rl link to an organisation.
There must be something offencive or distastefull name to. Then I can understand the rule. But not just on the premisis of the rule.
"Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups." This is regarding naming restrictions for characters, ships and corporations (and alliances).
So please. If you find S.A.S offencive or distastefull please let us know.
SoonÖ
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aeti
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:08:00 -
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100% agree that this is silly
tho the forum things will probably lock this >:|
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:09:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
RL link to military organisation.
that would mean that "Band of Brothers" alliance would be in violation of the rule also as it is a registered trademark anme for a TV show.
when will the GM madness end ?
if you are going to do them then do them all or do none.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: aeti
tho the forum things will probably lock this >:|
Yeah. Like right about now.
SoonÖ
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ReForMatt
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:11:00 -
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You know you can make Zarth quiet if you give him a Tic-Tac
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Malken
Originally by: Muthsera
RL link to military organisation.
that would mean that "Band of Brothers" alliance would be in violation of the rule also as it is a registered trademark anme for a TV show.
I made the same argument to them. :)
Band of Brothers is based on Easy company. 101'st airbourn US Airforce.
So under the same rule it got to go.
SoonÖ
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:13:00 -
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Edited by: Baun on 07/11/2005 05:16:06
Sigh, this is stupid and disrespectful.
GMs, Devs or anyone else should not act capriciously and treat their customers with no respect. If there are real reasons that names need to be changed than the people who run this game need to publically state them and give the community a chance to have input on them before they start altering people's corp names willy nilly.
(and yes, even if the rules have been there, for the case of S.A.S, not 4S, because they haven't been enforced in 2.5 years, the GMs cannot just act on them at random)
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
Originally by: Malken
Originally by: Muthsera
RL link to military organisation.
that would mean that "Band of Brothers" alliance would be in violation of the rule also as it is a registered trademark anme for a TV show.
I made the same argument to them. :)
Band of Brothers is based on Easy company. 101'st airbourn US Airforce.
So under the same rule it got to go.
heck im gonna log in and petition that as soon as i had some sleep.
cant have some ppl getting special treatment can we since its against the rules right?
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:19:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
RL link to military organisation.
That's what I thought.
Exceedingly effective way to **** off your customers CCP. We can all argue about game balance and crap like that til' we're blue in the face, but I see this as a play-breaker for so many players out there.
PC-Ness.. where does the stupidity end... 
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Petite Pierre
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:20:00 -
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You dont just go fix "mistakes" 2.5 years later.
In both cases, 4S and S.A.S, you have corporations that have made EvE what it is today, and i'm not exagerating. They are part of the community, the whole of what EvE is, and they have made history in this game.
GM's, I urge you to reconsider.
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:25:00 -
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not to forget "the five" who has taken their name after 5 not so heterosexual guys who have a tvshow wich i think is a registered trademark also.
oh boy, lets look another week at corp names and do a quick google on it and see if it has any relation to real life organisations or registered trademarks.
theres going to be many "evecorpXXXXX" in a few weeks i think.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:26:00 -
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Thanks for the support. But lets keep the name yelling to ourself please. GM's I'm sure is just keeping in line whit the rule. They are just to uphold them not to make policies.
SoonÖ
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Eversor
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:29:00 -
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Political correctness FTL.
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Nelson Vandermark
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:29:00 -
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Sadly Band of Brothers connections supersede that our subscriptions rights.
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:31:00 -
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This is a witch hunt, this is BS.
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CmdrRat
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:39:00 -
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Some people in this thread have comparied BOB's full name of "Band of Brothers" to an HBO mini series by the same name based on a book by Steven Amberose of the same title.
For those of you who havn't had a chance to read Steven Amberose's masterfull book or didn't take notice of the quote during the show the name comes from a speech in Shakespeare's Henry the 5th. The Speech is called the St. Crispen's Day Speech. Below is a quote, the link has the entire speech.
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
This name far predates any current copyrighted work or millitary unit.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:41:00 -
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Doesn't change that there is a clear link to Easy company mate. S.A.S could have ment just about anything. But there is a clear link to the elite unit. I just don't want us to be singled out on this. If they want to change this. I want them to change it cross the line. Not just us.
SoonÖ
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:44:00 -
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Consider me down for a 'WTF?!'
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Biomass fears me.
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Klaryssa
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:48:00 -
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Edited by: Klaryssa on 07/11/2005 05:50:33
Originally by: Caybn E'vangel
This is a witch hunt, this is BS.
Agreed.
Of course people are going to want to emulate organisations like the SAS. They are an elite military group working for good. I fail to see a problem with this tbh.
And as for BoB having 'higher' connections... please. Even if we do, I think they would be a little more professional than to interfer.
I can see you are clearly upset, but don't go blaming this one on us/trying to take your vengeance out on us. It would be a lot more constructive to actually make some quiet enquiries and try and get it overturned.
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Originally by: Muthsera
Doesn't change that there is a clear link to Easy company mate. S.A.S could have ment just about anything. But there is a clear link to the elite unit. I just don't want us to be singled out on this. If they want to change this. I want them to change it cross the line. Not just us.
That might even be believable if your Sig didnt have 'who dares wins', the motto of the SAS. Good try. Disgusts me to see you trying to take BoB and every other possible corp down when clearly you should be concentrating on getting your own name back. |
Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:51:00 -
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Edited by: Muthsera on 07/11/2005 05:52:55
Don't see this as me pinning it to BoB in any way.
I don't mind the name at all. I just want to display the immoralty in this. Becus there are so many others that are in breech of this said rule. And I don't want S.A.S to be singled out in this. Even if you don't realise it. You and me are in the same boat here. We're after the same thing. To keep the name.
SoonÖ
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:52:00 -
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WTF a lot of corp/alliance names can be linked to trademarked stuff. This is so lame.
Proud Member of the NUBSIES Alliance.
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:55:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
Thanks for the support. But lets keep the name yelling to ourself please. GM's I'm sure is just keeping in line whit the rule. They are just to uphold them not to make policies.
Yes, GMs do just follow the rules. That does not mean, however, that so doing cannot fail to be respectful.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.11.07 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Nelson Vandermark
Sadly Band of Brothers connections supersede that our subscriptions rights.
Oh seriously dude, cut the BS it don't belong here.
The stuff about 4S and SAS being renamed is total crap, and everyone can see it. Are you low enough to bring in your ingame political bias to something that affects the whole community? Puh-leez.
-Druid
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.07 06:04:00 -
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Originally by: KSUDruid
Originally by: Nelson Vandermark
Sadly Band of Brothers connections supersede that our subscriptions rights.
Oh seriously dude, cut the BS it don't belong here.
The stuff about 4S and SAS being renamed is total crap, and everyone can see it. Are you low enough to bring in your ingame political bias to something that affects the whole community? Puh-leez.
Heh check the 4S post I started ..... these people always come out of the woodwork.
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Sjoor
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Posted - 2005.11.07 06:11:00 -
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Wee cald corp 008. damn wish it would have been cald corp 007.
That way some other people could whine and get it changed again.
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CmdrRat
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Posted - 2005.11.07 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sjoor
Wee cald corp 008. damn wish it would have been cald corp 007.
That way some other people could whine and get it changed again.
Sjoor
I assume this means you where the 8th Cladari corp. Thats actualy rather cool. It's proof you've been around sinces day one.
Congrats.
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Franky B
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Posted - 2005.11.07 06:23:00 -
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signed.
this is nonsense, as many people have pointed out, so many corp names are rips of real life organizations that if you want to take this stance on naming conventions, you'de be "reverting" half the corporations in eve.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.11.07 06:29:00 -
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OK, if CCP is going on a Witch Hunt of some kind, how about letting us know?
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Zarthanon
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Posted - 2005.11.07 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Deathwing
Edited by: Deathwing on 07/11/2005 06:03:43
"Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups"
InterBus - http://www.interbus.co.nz/
http://www.interbusonline.com/
http://www.interbus.com.pl/
ORE - http://www.ore.com/
http://www.ore-inc.com/
http://www.oreresearch.com.au/main.htm
Echelon Entertainment - http://www.echelonent.com/
Mercantile Club - http://www.mercantile-club.com/
Senate and Supreme Court Corporations in the Gallente Federation, im sure we are all aware that many countries have in their governmental body a "Senate" and a "Supreme Court" so that to would also be emulating a real-world group
If CCP wants to play on semantics, i can spend more then 5 minutes scrolling thru CCP created NPC corp names and googling stuff and finding references to rl groups and organizations
in closing
give them their names back
sit down
and stfu
Can you say, OMGWTFBBQPWNED!!!11!!1111one1!eleven!11!!!!
Originally by: ParMizaN
i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk
Originally by: Buddrow
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CmdrRat
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Posted - 2005.11.07 06:41:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
Edited by: Muthsera on 07/11/2005 05:52:55
Don't see this as me pinning it to BoB in any way.
I don't mind the name at all. I just want to display the immoralty in this. Becus there are so many others that are in breech of this said rule. And I don't want S.A.S to be singled out in this. Even if you don't realise it. You and me are in the same boat here. We're after the same thing. To keep the name.
I'm with you 100% when you say taking your name is wrong. But I don't think we're on the same level. Just the Same ball park, so you have my understanding and support in your effort to get your name back
To everyone in this thread saying Bob should lose it's name:
I want to make clear to everyone that we've never aligned ourselves with a HBO mini series or a Book. I'm not sure what Easy Company of the 101 Airborne of WWII's motto was but I'm sure it wasn't "Nice region, we'll take it", heh, it might have been "nice beach, we'll take it."
If you read that quote I posted you'll see that it's exactly how we play the game, you spill blood with us and your my brother. Which is exactly why Steven Amberose chose that name for his book and Shakespeare wrote that Speech. To explain that feeling, and it's why BNC, RKK, and EVOl are together.
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Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2005.11.07 06:44:00 -
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Edited by: Gerome Doutrande on 07/11/2005 06:44:43
This is really getting silly. I'm pretty sure with 10 minutes, web browser and google I can make up reasons to get any corp name ingame banned (maybe except for real weird names like S******dly).
This needs to be undone.
Edit: I think the filter just gave me an idea for that corp too. 
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Equinox II
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Posted - 2005.11.07 06:51:00 -
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Edited by: Equinox II on 07/11/2005 06:54:25
This is just stupid, many corps/alliances got links to RL organisations and trademarks, are you going to change them all or just poor SAS and 4S?
I guess we're up next then since we got the same alliance name as a military board game...
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.07 07:16:00 -
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Edited by: Muthsera on 07/11/2005 07:16:48
I think we pretty much exausted this.
We appresiate your support. And we think the gm's made an error in this. We hope the situation will be resolved shortly. And that we get to keep the name. We'll let you know if we don't, trust me. :)
SoonÖ
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Knuck
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Posted - 2005.11.07 07:17:00 -
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Edited by: Knuck on 07/11/2005 07:17:18
Originally by: Deathwing
Edited by: Deathwing on 07/11/2005 06:03:43
"Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups"
InterBus - http://www.interbus.co.nz/
http://www.interbusonline.com/
http://www.interbus.com.pl/
ORE - http://www.ore.com/
etc..
pwnd
Seriously, kinda sad guys.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:00:00 -
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Urgh really.. dont the gms have more important stuff to be dealing with? i mean come on.... thats just really disheartening to know that they are nitpicking whenever important petitions, exploits etc are waiting unanswered.
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Ku'Gras
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:03:00 -
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Deathwing 4tw.
This is retarded beyond comprehension.
why don't CCP instead of letting us choose a corp name automatically call everyone evecorpxxx? That would be a lot of fun.
CCP Instructions for corp creation:
"You will be able to choose your own corp name, except for any name with an link to any real life military connected organization or group anywhere in the world. Digging deep enough we know this would include just about any name in the dictionary but we don't care. We also reserve the right to up to 3 years later rename your corporation without giving much reasons if some random whiner informs us it is offensive.".
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ChefAce
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:06:00 -
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Not to mention all the people out there who have named their characters after bodily functions or specific parts of the human anatomy. There are tons of those people running around and yet they seem to be able to get away with it.
I petitioned a guy with a seriously vulgar and offensive name the other day and was basically told to take a flying leap.
Sounds like favoritism to me.
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LOGINCHAR
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:16:00 -
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Well, one think that allways surprise me is CCP name itself. I think they should change it, as it is a name of a country. It is really offencive for some private company to name itself as a one of big countries.
Russia was called CCP no more then 15 years ago.
Soviet Socialist Republic. IN Russian S = C and R = P. So for 70 years Russia had name CCP, you can see it on every one of old banners.
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dalman
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Zarthanon
Originally by: Muthsera
RL link to military organisation.
And did we ever get confirmation on 4S's... or does it have to do with real life link to being proud of and supportive of the country you live in? Complete BS if you ask me.
The explenation on 4S were given in that earlier thread about it.
According to what ppl said there, it doesn't stand for "united we stand".
It meant something like "only united can save serbs" and is a symbol used by many serbs accused for war crimes...
And if that's correct I guess it may be a valid reason to nerf their name. Although doing it after 2 1/2 year is...uhhhh.
Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin.
Distributor of pain. Your loss becomes my gain...
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dalman
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: LOGINCHAR
Well, one think that allways surprise me is CCP name itself. I think they should change it, as it is a name of a country. It is really offencive for some private company to name itself as a one of big countries.
Russia was called CCP no more then 15 years ago.
Soviet Socialist Republic. IN Russian S = C and R = P. So for 70 years Russia had name CCP, you can see it on every one of old banners.
Errr, wasn't that named CCCP? :s
Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin.
Distributor of pain. Your loss becomes my gain...
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:19:00 -
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How completely and utterly rediculous, I hope someone from CCP comes forward and fixes this.. Kieron?
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Zarthanon
Originally by: Muthsera
RL link to military organisation.
And did we ever get confirmation on 4S's... or does it have to do with real life link to being proud of and supportive of the country you live in? Complete BS if you ask me.
The explenation on 4S were given in that earlier thread about it.
According to what ppl said there, it doesn't stand for "united we stand".
It meant something like "only united can save serbs" and is a symbol used by many serbs accused for war crimes...
And if that's correct I guess it may be a valid reason to nerf their name. Although doing it after 2 1/2 year is...uhhhh.
Thats not really right. 4S does mean "only unity can save the serbs", but it has been the national motto (and an emblem) since the 14th (or 13th) century. Simply because some monsters have perverted it does not make it any less the national motto or any less of a patriotic statement.
Obviously, the corp intended it as a statement of the nationality of most of their players and to signify that they were proud of it, not in any possible negative sense.
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: dalman
Originally by: LOGINCHAR
Well, one think that allways surprise me is CCP name itself. I think they should change it, as it is a name of a country. It is really offencive for some private company to name itself as a one of big countries.
Russia was called CCP no more then 15 years ago.
Soviet Socialist Republic. IN Russian S = C and R = P. So for 70 years Russia had name CCP, you can see it on every one of old banners.
Errr, wasn't that named CCCP? :s
yes
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LOGINCHAR
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:23:00 -
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Edited by: LOGINCHAR on 07/11/2005 08:25:53
No, CCCP was name of All Soviet union, when CCP was a name of republic inside the Soviet Union, one of 15 republics.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Pepperami
How completely and utterly rediculous, I hope someone from CCP comes forward and fixes this.. Kieron?
I'm suprice it's not locked yet. Kieron, your getting sloppy. Who will keep us in line if your not here?
But I'm glad this one was allowed to run. It's been a good discussion and on the points. It's not always better to lock the treads on here actually taking up issues we have whit the game.
SoonÖ
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dalman
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Baun
Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Zarthanon
Originally by: Muthsera
RL link to military organisation.
And did we ever get confirmation on 4S's... or does it have to do with real life link to being proud of and supportive of the country you live in? Complete BS if you ask me.
The explenation on 4S were given in that earlier thread about it.
According to what ppl said there, it doesn't stand for "united we stand".
It meant something like "only united can save serbs" and is a symbol used by many serbs accused for war crimes...
And if that's correct I guess it may be a valid reason to nerf their name. Although doing it after 2 1/2 year is...uhhhh.
Thats not really right. 4S does mean "only unity can save the serbs", but it has been the national motto (and an emblem) since the 14th (or 13th) century. Simply because some monsters have perverted it does not make it any less the national motto or any less of a patriotic statement.
Obviously, the corp intended it as a statement of the nationality of most of their players and to signify that they were proud of it, not in any possible negative sense.
Yes, of course.
That happens everywhere in the world. Some %ñ!#ññ/*** taking ancient symbols and using it as their own.
Personally, I don't care. I'd never petition a name. I leave my RL ties outside my gaming. But I kinda think it's stupid to use RL names in EVE.
Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin.
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ZelRox
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Zarthanon
Originally by: Muthsera
RL link to military organisation.
And did we ever get confirmation on 4S's... or does it have to do with real life link to being proud of and supportive of the country you live in? Complete BS if you ask me.
The explenation on 4S were given in that earlier thread about it.
According to what ppl said there, it doesn't stand for "united we stand".
It meant something like "only united can save serbs" and is a symbol used by many serbs accused for war crimes...
And if that's correct I guess it may be a valid reason to nerf their name. Although doing it after 2 1/2 year is...uhhhh.
Right on the spot dalman. When i first started out playing eve, and saw the name, i was suprised that a term would be used in a game. And comming from the former warzone didnt make it easier. But lots of people from that corp are actually quite ok, so i didnt give it further thought.
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Zarthanon
Originally by: Muthsera
RL link to military organisation.
And did we ever get confirmation on 4S's... or does it have to do with real life link to being proud of and supportive of the country you live in? Complete BS if you ask me.
The explenation on 4S were given in that earlier thread about it.
According to what ppl said there, it doesn't stand for "united we stand".
It meant something like "only united can save serbs" and is a symbol used by many serbs accused for war crimes...
And if that's correct I guess it may be a valid reason to nerf their name. Although doing it after 2 1/2 year is...uhhhh.
the reasoning with 4s was that this national phrase / term existing since the 12th century was used in the bosnian civil war from some para militaric unit as a sign on their uniform. However the slogan and sign is still part of the official serbish flag, official serbish uniforms and still part of "serbish history" or their cultural selfunderstanding.
Thats like banning "god save the queen (corp)" or any other remotely historical stuff.
The recent brought up examples of bob and 5 show that you cant work with the big brush on those decisions, as bob bases themself on something totally different then "the easy company" which might be well known in america or europe but totally unknown in other parts of the world.
Same applies for 5, while we simply might have refered to our initial starting number others (including 5 members) know a 2nd class pop group going by that name.
Ive seen this in other games, when reporting "rulebreaches" became more important or decisive then actually beating your opponent ingame. I can only hope ccp steps on the break harshly, gives an open answer to all this from our "community manager" kieron and reestablished corpnames which have been around (and publically viewable) for 3 years.
If only 1 person takes offence after 3 years its maybe time to tell them to fk off, instead of annoying 100s of players, alliancem8s and players.
Otherwise change ur eula to "everything forbidden which even remotely produces any results on google". Welcome to the world of kanunuwasususakakaoloa penguin corp, unless the penguin is offensive in any part of the world.
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Dragothmar
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:36:00 -
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*reads thread*
*looks around nervously for vicious lawsuit-bearing governors of California coming to terminate us*
*relaxes in the knowledge that corp name's really only a noun*
*engages cloak*
*laughs menacingly before spearing kieron*
Hey Corp 008 - there's a trophy in teh mail for ya
*Wesside?*
*Nah, NOOOORTHSIIIIHEEEEEED in da house!* |
Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:42:00 -
[57]
Originally by: qrac
national symbols of serbia are according to the gm's offensive...
National symbols of *anywhere* should never have been allowed to start with. After two and a half years, sure it's going to royally tick people off.
Celt Corp - members of ISS |
Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:44:00 -
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<3 Blacklight..
SoonÖ
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:53:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Kcel Chim on 07/11/2005 08:53:40
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: qrac
national symbols of serbia are according to the gm's offensive...
National symbols of *anywhere* should never have been allowed to start with. After two and a half years, sure it's going to royally tick people off.
erm dude your corpticker is ISS try to google it before you blow your own horn too loud (wrg to real live connections).
You should look up "tolerance" in an online dictionary, it works both ways as the SAS posted above you showed nicely.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:02:00 -
[60]
*Muth is eyeballing that Celt corp ticker*
*Muth writes down on his list*
SoonÖ
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Karmae
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:17:00 -
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Signed, it's crazy changing an established corps name 2 years later.
Thing is that when CCP obliterate a players name for whatever reason, they don't stop any *new* characters from taking and using that name. That happened to an old alliance mate who became Eve Player #### after more than a year ingame as a main character.
A couple weeks later, someone else is using *exactly* the same name.
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Mornee
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:20:00 -
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We are trying our best not to publicly ôflameö CCP because of our name being changed, as we want to believe that after offering exhaustive proofs and historical facts about 4S name and its origin, CCP will realize that they made a mistake.
Our slogan stood proudly through history, wars, and occupations and always had only one meaning û to keep its people together and under one banner in good or bad times. Respecting that tradition, 4S has become a part of our national flag and coat-of-arms since centuries ago. We fail to see how proclaiming unity amongst its members could prove to be offensive to some people. Yes, we realize that it might have been used by some shady individuals for their lowest actions, but you canÆt judge entire modern nation because of the actions of several ill-tempered individuals that have nothing to do with our people and our country in the first place.
We honestly hope that CCP will realize they would be opening PandoraÆs Box if they go on names-altering crusade, as large part of corporation names can be connected to some form of RL term or nation.
@ S.A.S û sorry to see you have shared our destiny. Keep your spirits up
ù
4S Forums | 4S KillList | 4S IRC |
Marcus Aurelius
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:29:00 -
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Edited by: Marcus Aurelius on 07/11/2005 09:32:27
Whatever CCP decides on how far they take the rl-connection= prohobited thing, one thing alone makes this a ****up of proportions unacceptable:
Quote:
You dont just go fix "mistakes" 2.5 years later.
Et voila.
You've knowingly let a breach of your Eula continue for 2.5 years without acknowledging it as such. Tell me, have you looked into what this means for a contract under normal circumstances at all ?
At the very very least you owe these guys an apology, a free-of-cost renaming, and the rest of us an explanation.
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MegaJ
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:32:00 -
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Edited by: MegaJ on 07/11/2005 09:33:18
I'm sorry to say I found it half amusing at first when 4S got their name changed. But it seems now there is more going on than just a single case, as I thought 4S was. Either someone is browsing corp names and petioning all day for a laugh or my worst fear and CCP has actually put an employee on it to filter all the corp names. By doing so griefing a large part of the community, as even more corp's will be the victim of this soon I fear. Thinking they r doing something good by being politically correct or something of that nature... while no corrections are really needed *sigh
MegaJ
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:34:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Mornee
Our slogan stood proudly through history, wars, and occupations and always had only one meaning û to keep its people together and under one banner in good or bad times. Respecting that tradition, 4S has become a part of our national flag and coat-of-arms since centuries ago. We fail to see how proclaiming unity amongst its members could prove to be offensive to some people. Yes, we realize that it might have been used by some shady individuals for their lowest actions,but [b]you canÆt judge entire modern nation[/] because of the actions of several ill-tempered individuals that have nothing to do with our people and our country in the first place.
Modern, yeah right...Modern nation same as mine which is not (check my bio in game and then you will know what i mean).
Problem is that "cccc" was used just only recently to much by killers (dont want to describe ways they did it).Y
es it has hystorical value.
But since your "individulas" use it for bad things, it lost its vaLUE same as letter "-U-" lost its value from similar actionsin the past.
I think to many ppl trying to bring past in to present and not thinking to much about future
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Traxio Nacho
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:40:00 -
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If you put "ISD" i.e. the mods and then army or Politcal into google it comes up with some references surely thats no different to S.A.S. beign related to the army?
(can't quite remember what ISD related to on Google but if there being that small minded surely they should have their name changed too?)
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:44:00 -
[67]
Sorry but those calling for BoB's head are missing a rather large point.
Band of Brothers was the name of the book written by Stephen Ambrose detailing the heroics of Easy Company, 506th Regiment of the 101st Airborne Division, U.S. Army.
We do not:
"Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups."
The real-world military name of the company you THINK we are using is Easy Company, 506th Regiment of the 101st Airborne Division, U.S. Army.
So, sorry Malken, here is a t2 tissue just for you.
Thanks,
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Kerosene
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:44:00 -
[68]
CCP happens to be the same name as my government's political party...
PETITION!!
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s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:48:00 -
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OMG utter BS !!!!
Wow CCP, not like your name is not linked to anything :S
Zitek is a eastern european company, ISS is a cleaning company in Holland etc etc.
WTF is wrong with you people ?
Seriously ?
Proud CEO of the I have a mirel yirrin corpse and do freaky things to it club.
Convo me ingame for details on how to join, and a free " I ♥ mirel yirrin Ö" Bumpersticker!! |
ZelRox
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:48:00 -
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RL stuff should be left behind when you click that connect button.
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Moneta
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:53:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Moneta on 07/11/2005 09:55:58
Ok CCP,
You've now openened a can of worms you had better left shut.
I wonder...
Are you going to change everyone's corp, char and alliance name now ? Because ANY name can be googled into a eula breach if you try hard enough.
Admit it, you've been had by some seriously immature ****wit that feels the need to randomly start petitioning corps he doesn't like. I'd cross reference S.A.S. and 4S kills in the last month if I were you and see if maybe, just maybe, the same account as the one sending you the two petitions comes up when you do.
Maybe we should start mass petitiong npc corp names then ?
Or have every ceo ingame petition his own corp ?
I mean, wouldnt you think that this gm decision is just a bit ignorant ? How clear do you need to get that this is simply an ingame rivalry taken to griefing using the gm's for the tools they are ?
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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Rukaz
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:57:00 -
[72]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Sorry but those calling for BoB's head are missing a rather large point.
Band of Brothers was the name of the book written by Stephen Ambrose detailing the heroics of Easy Company, 506th Regiment of the 101st Airborne Division, U.S. Army.
We do not:
"Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups."
The real-world military name of the company you THINK we are using is Easy Company, 506th Regiment of the 101st Airborne Division, U.S. Army.
So, sorry Malken, here is a t2 tissue just for you.
Thanks,
dbp
"We band of brothers, we happy few"
Henry V by William Shakespeare.
Shakespeare is public domain and therefore open to use by anyone. LOL, take it easy BoB, you're safe.
Ruk
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:58:00 -
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CCP needs to hire some GM's that weren't engineered on The Island of Doctor Moreau.
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s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:58:00 -
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In the meantime the char named :
himmler
with a not so nice look on his face remains in the database after i petitioned it :S
GG CCP .....
Proud CEO of the I have a mirel yirrin corpse and do freaky things to it club.
Convo me ingame for details on how to join, and a free " I ♥ mirel yirrin Ö" Bumpersticker!! |
Balazs Simon
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Posted - 2005.11.07 10:12:00 -
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OMG, this is BS...
Are we in danger ? HUN is the direct representation of our our country...
And damn... my char name is my real life name alos... and I exist in RL, and it can directly be linked to me ... omg, will my name changed to EVEplayer1111eleven!!111 ?
or WTF..
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s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2005.11.07 10:16:00 -
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omg my real life name is Sam.... NOESSSssssss
Proud CEO of the I have a mirel yirrin corpse and do freaky things to it club.
Convo me ingame for details on how to join, and a free " I ♥ mirel yirrin Ö" Bumpersticker!! |
Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.11.07 10:35:00 -
[77]
Well I love that you can strike back those ebil pie-rats by this way. Petitioning their name or corp name is very nice way to cause serious harm to 'em. Bwahahahah!  
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.11.07 10:38:00 -
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One thing that worries me is they said ship names are subject to this rule too.
How many ppl call thier ships HMS something or USS something?
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.11.07 10:41:00 -
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HFS Something is probably subject to change too 
~Captain Cutie, HFS Event Horizon
Biomass fears me.
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2005.11.07 10:44:00 -
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A classically sad case of political correctness gone wrong.
The entire reason for æPCÆ is to prevent the mentioned parties, or the parties they are associated with, from being offended and in turn enacting legal action. With regards to the SAS, what exactly were CCP attempting to prevent? The offence of Irish Loyalists? Iraqi Soldiers? Islamic Extremists? How many of these people actually play EVE? How many of them would honestly care? And, considering the way in which the SAS operate, how many of them do you think are still alive to care?
The SAS moniker appears everywhere, from high-street stores to the back playground of schools. The SAS have never filed legal action; they get on with their job. As CCP should. Trying to police the use of a name of a special forces unit two years after it was entered into a æCorp NameÆ tab is poor show. Forget bad PC, think bad PR.
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t3mpus II
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Posted - 2005.11.07 10:50:00 -
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If we start this it will never end. What about all the amarrian ships having names with direct references to RL religions. What about the "shape" of certain ships. I am sure there are people out there finding them offensive. Where does political correctness stop?
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Koth Krakenworth
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Posted - 2005.11.07 10:59:00 -
[82]
Quote:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
SAS is a three-letter acronym which may refer to:
Australian Special Air Service Regiment, an Australian special forces unit
San Antonio Spurs, an NBA basketball team
SAS (browser), a microbrowser
SAS (company), a shoe company
SAS (Hip-Hop Group), a member of The Diplomats
SAS Institute, a software company
SAS strategic methodology
The SAS System, software created by the SAS Institute
Scandinavian Airlines System
Schools Advisory Service
Second Avenue Subway, a new subway line in New York City
Semester at Sea, a shipboard academic program administered by the University of Pittsburgh
Serial Attached SCSI, a serial communication protocol
Shanghai American School, an international school in Shanghai
Short Attention Span
Side-Angle-Side, a formula used to prove the congruence of two triangles
Singapore American School, an international school in Singapore
Slovak Academy of Sciences
SociÚtÚ par actions simplifiÚe, a type of corporation in France
Society for Amateur Scientists, an American organisation
Southern All Stars, a Japanese rock band
Space Access Society
Space activity suit
Spatially Aware Sublayer, an optional sublayer of the MAC that provides spatial reuse in Resilient Packet Ring
Special Air Service, the principal special forces organisation of the British Army
Special Air Service of New Zealand (NZ SAS), a New Zealand special forces unit
Special Activities Staff, the CIA's paramilitary division
Sports Argument Stadium, the sports forum on Something Awful Forums
Statement on Auditing Standards
Sas may also be a name, not an abbreviation.
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"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes."
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Bozse
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:01:00 -
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One thing i don't get with the 4S name change as "4S Corp" is as neutral as can be, if they had the meaning in corp description then the description it self could have been up for debate (not that i see the reson for it beeing offensive) but the corp name it self can mean probably about a milion things.
Or would it be against the rules to create a 4S corp based on 4 people with irl names starting with the letter S or any combination of 4 words starting with an s in any language?
To both 4S and SAS, keep fighting because this is in no way acceptable.
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Mollari Cotto
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:14:00 -
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hmm... looks like ccp is letting this one go on so i guess i'll add one more ccp flame to it.
CCP, don't be lame
And i would also like to say that this maybe the first topic where all of eve can agree; north and south
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:15:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Vishnej on 07/11/2005 11:15:30
Chinese Communist Party
Internal Security Department (of singapore)
Polaris [Ballistic Missile]
Isreali Security Service
Band of Brothers (easy company)
Red Alliance
HUN corp (Hungarian)
Romanian Renegades
French Force Alliance
Phoenix (project in vietnam by the CIA to 'neutralize' the civilian population)
These are just a few of the military/national ones.
T2 Destroyers: a proposal
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Fortune Fader
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:16:00 -
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Darcuese, what you just said hase no logic, since 4S was always the SLOGAN for Serbs, ONLY, it has nothing to do with any other nation, religion, or organisaton WHATSOEVER !!!
"Samo Sloga Srbina Spasava" (Only Unity Saves The Serbs) has been created in time when Turkish wariors kidnaped serbian children, and ocupied Serbian lands, it was a call for unity among the Serbs, to free their country, so dont find your self "insulted", it has nothing to do with you !!! If someone used it to do some bad things in war, when all sides had their dark moments, he should be in court now, just like some your ppl, so dont try to bring politics HERE !!!
ther is 2 ways to correct this things:
1. we organize some protest ingame, all supporters in one system, or something like that.
2. we all start petition all corporation/aliances that can be linked to some RL organization.
think we should start with option No 1. first, then, if no results, start No 2.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:18:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Vishnej
Edited by: Vishnej on 07/11/2005 11:15:30
Chinese Communist Party
Internal Security Department (of singapore)
Polaris [Ballistic Missile]
Isreali Security Service
Band of Brothers (easy company)
Red Alliance
HUN corp (Hungarian)
Romanian Renegades
French Force Alliance
Phoenix (project in vietnam by the CIA to 'neutralize' the civilian population)
These are just a few of the military/national ones.
I take it you didn't bother to read my post.
gg.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:18:00 -
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/emote looks at own corp name and shivers.
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Tihi
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Darcuese
"Our slogan stood proudly through history"---a kad ovako nesto procitam tako bi ispleskao svakog ko to rece i digne mi se tlak na 300....Miloseviceve glupe demagogije
Ma znas sta, puca me *****, cetvrti put editiram jermi se digo tlak sa ovakvim objasnjenjima sto citam od ponekih...smar ass ppl...kad nadjem u svemiru napucat cu te ko beba zvecku
Kazes "might have use"...ma, sad tek vidim koja si ti zadrta nacionalisticka budala...obican govnar
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:19:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Vishnej on 07/11/2005 11:23:09
If we protest, I vote we do it with node kills, and we do it in the less populated Empire regions.
DB - I did, but the association is there, whether that was your inspiration or not doesn't matter. Even so, I believe it unlikely that you would have made the alliance based purely on the verse, without Ambrose to point it out to you.
T2 Destroyers: a proposal
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ChefAce
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:28:00 -
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The only way to protest something like this is to not pay your subscription fee.
If people started canceling accounts because of this then that would be a protest as it takes $$$ out of CCPs' pockets.
Any other form of protest (in-game) is just weak as they are still getting your bottom dollar.
Way to go CCP. You're even more ignorant than I ever thought possible.
To let something such as this continue is a travesty and a sham.
I can guarentee you that this one is going to bite you on the ass wether you believe it or not.
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:29:00 -
[92]
Edited by: Darcuese on 07/11/2005 11:33:30
Originally by: Tihi
Originally by: Darcuese
Will You be so kind to translate it? Sounds like fun.
Tihi, it sound as it sound. Ask Prle to translate you
anyway...I said Im against CCP changing names becouse there are to many different culture and it would be insaine to keep a track for someone not insulting other. Its just a game after all. But then dont go in explanation what the true meaning is....even if its true...cause then other side can say their point of view...and it will become neverending story.
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Marcus Aurelius
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:30:00 -
[93]
Nah, to protest is simple:
Petition every npc corp you can find a eula-breaching rl reference to....daily....till it's changed.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:30:00 -
[94]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Vishnej
Edited by: Vishnej on 07/11/2005 11:15:30
Chinese Communist Party
Internal Security Department (of singapore)
Polaris [Ballistic Missile]
Isreali Security Service
Band of Brothers (easy company)
Red Alliance
HUN corp (Hungarian)
Romanian Renegades
French Force Alliance
Phoenix (project in vietnam by the CIA to 'neutralize' the civilian population)
These are just a few of the military/national ones.
I take it you didn't bother to read my post.
gg.
dbp
But DB, if CCP is on a rampage I would see your alliance name next, cause it is named like a military TV serie (a really bad one after all). But tbh, not even me would come to petition a name like "4s" or "Band of Brother". I have seen much muucccchh worser names on this forums.
I fondly remember "Hepatitis" posting here for a while, nobody cared about his name and imho it was the most disgusting name I have seen in this game yet
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Marcus Aurelius
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:31:00 -
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Edited by: Marcus Aurelius on 07/11/2005 11:31:37
nm.
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ChefAce
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:32:00 -
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Btw, go through the first 5 pages of this forum and look at the names of people who have started topics.
You'll find more than enough "offensiveness" to see that you have your hands full with this one.
Sorry folks, but if they want to follow through with something as shameful as this then they shouldn't discriminate. They should go right through their database and filter out all of the possible offending names. Corps and players alike.
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:34:00 -
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To CCP:
Originally by: Deathwing
in closing
give them their names back
sit down
and stfu
Hahaha - <3 deathwing - stick it to them because they are clearly too [insert bad word] at CCP atm.
Did SOE buy CCP? It fits the political correctness and ingame stuff for cash thing... ohh well.
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |
ChefAce
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:35:00 -
[98]
But the E-Bay thing doesn't apply to the Chinese.
More discrimination from CCP.
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Alyssa Keliaster
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:36:00 -
[99]
According to their sights my corporation, The Temple Knights, another name for the Templar Order, would be out of order. This is due to the religious and military aspects of its name.
So CCP, gonna slap my corp name into purgatory??
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:38:00 -
[100]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 07/11/2005 11:43:13
Originally by: Vishnej
DB - I did, but the association is there, whether that was your inspiration or not doesn't matter. Even so, I believe it unlikely that you would have made the alliance based purely on the verse, without Ambrose to point it out to you.
Blacklight already stated how we came up with the bob name, I guess you couldn't be bothered to read that either huh?
And if you had read my post you would have seen that according to the official line by CCP it is the real life name of the military company.
Band of Brothers is not associated with the company in real life, it is the name of a book written many years after the events of which it portrays and is indeed taken directly from Shakespeare which is, ofc, public domain.
I'm afraid you can complain all you want but we are covered.
There is a massive difference between our name and naming a company 4s or SAS.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:38:00 -
[101]
Well there you go CCP - I think you have the opinions of your player base and community, over 100 posts in this thread already and not one that thinks your actions are right.
I'll quote Oveur from the fan fest,
'Power to the players'
We have spoken - give 4S and SAS their names back!
Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here |
ermo
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:38:00 -
[102]
I don't know if its been mentioned already as I've not read all the pages of this post.
However I find it amazing that a corp name such as S.A.S which has links to a military outfit gets changed after 2.5 years of game time and yet CCP let a guy fly around Jita named COON.
This baffles me - talk about insane double standards.
(maybe they've changed that guys name by now as I am in work I can't check if it exists any more but the point is he did and for at least a good couple of weeks)
2004.06.12 23:05:27combatYour Neutron Blaster Cannon I perfectly strikes ********** wrecking for 1056.5 damage.
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Omatje
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:39:00 -
[103]
Next thing, they are going the rename the Tempest in Eve ship 12307120371
Nit-picking 471!
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:42:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Omatje
Next thing, they are going the rename the Tempest in Eve ship 12307120371
Nit-picking 471!
your dutchmen! your banz0red!
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:43:00 -
[105]
This is ****** up.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:45:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Omatje
Next thing, they are going the rename the Tempest in Eve ship 12307120371
Nit-picking 471!
Cruzifier, Armageddon, Apocalypse, Omen, Zealot and lots of other Amarr ships gonna get banz0red too
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:48:00 -
[107]
Originally by: danneh
This is ****** up.
quoted for truth.
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ChefAce
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:49:00 -
[108]
I demand CCP chang the ISD name to something else for their crimes against the public.
70,000 people can attest to the fact that they have mamed, mutalated and slaughtered hundreds if not thousands of poor innocent posts.
It's offensive!
I also demand that CCP Change it's name for their war crimes consisting of nerfing, unbalancing and false advertising of our beloved game.
It's offensive!
Get to work!
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Nim Nom
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:49:00 -
[109]
Grr, pathetic tbh.
Especially for the 4S guys, where do u think ****** got the swazzticker (sp). Its actually a slightly manipulated Hindu symbol. Have Hindu's around the world stopped using it in their homes, HELL NO!.
CCP / GM's, please get onto fixing things that the majority of the player base actually gives a rats ass about.
/me goes to check what happens if i google JIT.
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:55:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Darcuese on 07/11/2005 11:55:48
Well,my opinion is that some things got out of the CCP's hand. Some thing (technical nature) they cant fix after 5000 ppl on server become 17000 ppl. So they need some other stuff to prove they are in control
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Tihi
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:59:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Darcuese
Ask Prle to translate you
No need for that 
I am glad to see You calm down. Politic make too many evils in last decade.
Originally by: Darcuese
letter "-U-" lost its value from similar actions in the past.
Now it is my turn to calm down. 
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:03:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Feta Solamnia on 07/11/2005 12:04:47
Hello, I've run into this post by pure curiocity.
I have to add here, that I have heard that there is a specific group of people exploiting GM's *ahem*Stupidness for a long time now to engage in outer-game warfare.
I have seen this happening in not just corporations, but in people too. But because of the also stupid policy of not allowing anyone to let others know about those stuff, it has been hearsay mostly (baaad for CCP's reputation, since hearsay gets worse on every round).
Anyway, I've seen other moves like that with people getting renamed with silly reasoning. Most of all a person I know in RL was hit by that bat and he was actually expecting it. He was waging war vs. a group of people that were known to get advantage of the dumb rules and he was hit by it. Don't ask who that group was, I have no idea, never asked. Also the person is not on eve any more, after seeing these kinds of things he left in a hurry.
I firmly believe that people repeating this kind of tactic should be hit with the banstick, no warning, no chance of coming back. Just check the damn petition logs and I think you will see a pattern emerging.
I love seeing peple fight out there, I love to see people using clever tactics and borderline-exploit things, but this kind of warfare and behaviour cannot be acceptable.
EDIT: here's an idea. I've heard that my name means "fat" in some northern language (was it swedish?). Try petitioning me, be creative on what solamnia means (mebbe claim it's your surname/nickname and I'm mocking you becase I know you in RL?). I bet it will work.
Originally by: Oveur
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:04:00 -
[113]
So whos gonna pay for my name change ?
Its linked after all to one of the most important punk bands in history .
GG CCP
Next step for you is to install a "whine-line" .
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qrac
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:05:00 -
[114]
Edited by: qrac on 07/11/2005 12:06:39
bleh
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:09:00 -
[115]
I hope my corp name doesn't offend any of those people on Weight watchers, The Biggest Loser or are gravity challenged.
Regards,
Name: EvePlayer 827177271
Corp: 9192881
Alliance: 1286
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:12:00 -
[116]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 07/11/2005 11:43:13
Originally by: Vishnej
DB - I did, but the association is there, whether that was your inspiration or not doesn't matter. Even so, I believe it unlikely that you would have made the alliance based purely on the verse, without Ambrose to point it out to you.
Blacklight already stated how we came up with the bob name, I guess you couldn't be bothered to read that either huh?
And if you had read my post you would have seen that according to the official line by CCP it is the real life name of the military company.
Band of Brothers is not associated with the company in real life, it is the name of a book written many years after the events of which it portrays and is indeed taken directly from Shakespeare which is, ofc, public domain.
I'm afraid you can complain all you want but we are covered.
There is a massive difference between our name and naming a company 4s or SAS.
dbp
You fail to realise that it doesnt matter how covered you think you are. It's all about how somebody else relates to the name that matters.
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:15:00 -
[117]
As my CEO said "Guys, we can just hope that HUN does not means ***** in any foreign languages."
I hope this "project banz0r" wont involve any more old corporations and 4S along with SAS will get back their name, as before. I dont think it would serve CCPs interest if more and more people would start rabbling outside this forum. Friends and foes are protesting. What else more those GM's need? Where are the responsible people?
Imho there sould been already an official answer to the public instead of locking. There are people, who are worried, because you can never know what your name means in some African tribal language and there are people, who will append/cancel subsription in case some a**t*rd petitions their name.
Just to mention: SAS (means eagle in Hungarian) is banz0red, so beware naming your corp after a bird/animal with capital letters, you can never know how offensive it means (guess those ebil mices petitioned it). Avoid number+letter cominations too, because like 4S means 4S. So if you were planning naming your corporation/character/alliance like T3 or 2K, you might be banz0red.
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:15:00 -
[118]
Originally by: dabster
You fail to realise that it doesnt matter how covered you think you are. It's all about how somebody else relates to the name that matters.
No, it's about how CCP's rules govern name changes, it has nothing to do with peoples perceptions of a name.
dbp
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Love Ya
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:15:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Love Ya on 07/11/2005 12:24:22
@ CCP
Sorry about the highjaking but i think CCP has her PANTIES IN A TWIST with some thing is not even a problem ..
Any way i have a little story to tell as well that proves something is wrong here...
As few know i am a from Greece and born and grew up in a very very famous Island called *L.E.S.B.O.S* yep you reading it correct where the great Sapfo teached the young l.e.s.b.i.a.n girls.... etc etc
Now i wanted to create a corp called "T.h.e L.e.s.b.i.a.n.s" cause few of my mates from this Island wanted to play EvE with my and.....
well some GM told my that the name is ... well BAD..
But HEY CCP I AM a greek born in the island of L.E.S.B.O.S.. SO if you ask any will tell you that I AM A LE.S.B.I.AN right....
so why the name convetion is BAD or not allowed ??
Like i will say someone from Germany is GERMAN or some one from Island is an a Islander.... etc
And by the WAY i respected there req NOT to do it but is getting crazy with there conservative ideas lately
And thanks CCP for the great game but you need to lighten up a bit.
EDIT: God DAMN STUPID PROF filter
and CCP i expect to allow this word to be displayed cause i will get upset if you stop me from dispaying my nationality, I hope you understand this " we greeks are very proud for our land and where we coming from.
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:18:00 -
[120]
Originally by: dabster
You fail to realise that it doesnt matter how covered you think you are. It's all about how somebody else relates to the name that matters.
Nah it's about how inconsistently the EULA is policed on this issue. Currently we're totally at the mercy of whether or not someone takes a disliking to you and how switched on the GM is across who's screen the petition gets through to rather than a fair and consistent application of policy.
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:22:00 -
[121]
@Love Ya....
RESPECT
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Tecam Hund
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:31:00 -
[122]
Edited by: Tecam Hund on 07/11/2005 12:33:15
"...any real-world group or organization..." Can't group or organization be absolutely anything? From shipping company to a terrorist cell?
In that case you can put absolutely any name of any corporation into google and find a RL link to it.
"Gentec, a world-class supplier of spring probes & rigid pins for all types of automatic equipment for testing of bare and loaded printed circuits." There goes our corporation eh.
Since SAS isn't really a word (except for eagle), you guys should come up with an original meaning for it and present it to GMs.
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s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:42:00 -
[123]
no need to search any futher.. GG CCP :P
Here
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Lone Bear
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:48:00 -
[124]
Doesnt the word "eve" has some religious roots in christianism history and dogma?
And well, it seems I ll have to rename my ship since "USS Ticonderoga" aint politically correct and HMS Concordia and Tiger's Claw are copyrighted.
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:50:00 -
[125]
This is all kind of nuts tbh.
Why single out SAS and 4S?
Lots of corps in the game have either A: offensive names or what people might see as offensive or B: Corp tickers that are offensive.
I am Irish...So how do I feel about Imortal Red Army Corp Ticker IRA...... I feel nothing and see it as a game and really dont care about names.
I remember reading in the Eula before that you could not use the names of Real world companies ect in the game, then I seen a Corp called Atari and said to myself wonder if they know its againest the eula to use the name? They were part of CFS at the time as was I after talking to them and getting to know them it turned out there CEO and all there members all worked in guess where? yes thats right Atari! So as a matter of pride in there company they called there corp Atari! whats the problem?
4S called there corp after a slogan from guess where...there country again a symbol of pride for them! again whats the problem.
SAS..Special Air Service. ok its really obvious that SAS stands for that look at the sigs they use who dares wins the motto of the SAS. Again a military organisation but really who cares?
In keeping with this we will have to ban all Ranger Corps or names as Rangers are a military organisation or branch, US rangers, Irish Rangers, am sure there are more rangers.
We have in Eve Corps called SS empire!! corp tickers like IRA and SS Because they are not major forum players most people do not know of them, anyone with afew mins to type random RL stuff into the corp serch and ticker serch will come up with all manner of Offensive and not politically correct crap, but all these corps and people will be safe enough unless they come on the forums where they say the wrong thing and someone takes offense.
This Crap has got to stop, I am getting the feeling we are playing on the chinese server already...the goverment does not want you to see that!! the goverment is doing this because it knows whats best, hell we are all grown ups here and obey the forum rules most of the time but all this new clamping down on corps that are 2.5 years old stinks of a witch hunt! what is CCP doing? I get the feeling of they are cleaning up the eve Cluster to show it off to the chinese Goverment and removing anything from it that they might find offensive or wrong for the people
At least a Answer from the GM's or Devs on this new stuff should be fortcoming or is the whole "power to the players" speech a marketing ploy? Sure sounds like it..no answers and silence..its like the end of the movie sphere!!...lets just forget!
2 high profile Corporations names changed in a week!! both sited as offensive or some crap like that. All I say is grow thicker skin to whoever is behind it.
BTW ASUYA stands for A Shotgun up your ass! be offended.
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:50:00 -
[126]
i'll rephrase instead of doing multiple quotes.
Yes BL the EULA isnt decisive enough. Which leads to exactly what I said, that if somebody thinks and finds for example Bob to be offensive, they can banz0r it.
4S DB is an example, where the members and founders of 4S says "it means this to us" (like you and others have said), while they still got the namechange because somebody else found enough 'evidence' that 4S could be something offensive to some people, this being the EULA-breaching part.
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:51:00 -
[127]
Edited by: KIAHicks on 07/11/2005 12:52:07
Originally by: Dragothmar
Edited by: Dragothmar on 07/11/2005 08:57:25
*relaxes in the knowledge that corp name's really only a noun*
Your name is linked to a unit in the american army as well as been the name for project in the military. I guess that signifys links to real life military.
This is just plain stupid. I guess my old corp KIA will lose their name for been linked to cars despite the fact it really means "KillerZ in Action" and predates the stupidly named car.
How about we look at some alliance names:
I guess red alliance will lose their name as that is linked to a military organisation.
Phoenix - Linked to the Phoenix military acadamy.
NOARD - www.norad.mil can't get any more linked than that to real life military
IRON - Refers to the US lead operation in Iraq.
Arcane Technolgies - this is also the name of a real world group although none military, still falls under the "real world Group" clause.
Thats just off the top of my head, I'm sure if I logged into eve to find a number of corp names I could easily fine links to a vast majority to real life.
Why do you change a name becuase of one or two complaints when you have 1000's of players that have played against that corp and not had a problem with the name?
Or do you really want the pre-stage to war decs to be, "lets google their corp names, alliance names and pilot names and screw as many of them out of their names as we can by petitioning" ?
Between this and project rebirth I'm beginning to wonder if the water in CCP's office has become contaminated.
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Kerosene
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:54:00 -
[128]
While we're on bandwagons... there's an NPC corp called..
Home Guard
Not at all WW2 men who fought the good fight as reserves in England? So hypocritical
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:56:00 -
[129]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: dabster
You fail to realise that it doesnt matter how covered you think you are. It's all about how somebody else relates to the name that matters.
No, it's about how CCP's rules govern name changes, it has nothing to do with peoples perceptions of a name.
dbp
And what do you suppose impacts those rules?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:57:00 -
[130]
We also have:
"German Cyberdome Corp" <-- german
"Die Hanse" <-- RL
"Deutsche Luftwaffe" <-- military
"Jericho Fraction" <-- religius
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:05:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Deathwing
Edited by: Deathwing on 07/11/2005 06:03:43
"Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups"
InterBus - http://www.interbus.co.nz/
http://www.interbusonline.com/
http://www.interbus.com.pl/
ORE - http://www.ore.com/
http://www.ore-inc.com/
http://www.oreresearch.com.au/main.htm
Echelon Entertainment - http://www.echelonent.com/
Mercantile Club - http://www.mercantile-club.com/
Senate and Supreme Court Corporations in the Gallente Federation, im sure we are all aware that many countries have in their governmental body a "Senate" and a "Supreme Court" so that to would also be emulating a real-world group
If CCP wants to play on semantics, i can spend more then 5 minutes scrolling thru CCP created NPC corp names and googling stuff and finding references to rl groups and organizations
in closing
give them their names back
sit down
and stfu
Nice one
Hypocrisy ftl...
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:06:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Nafri
We also have:
"German Cyberdome Corp" <-- german
"Die Hanse" <-- RL
"Deutsche Luftwaffe" <-- military
"Jericho Fraction" <-- religius
Nafri
haha get ready to be called Eve Player 9657880 !
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s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:06:00 -
[133]
dude check my post in the other thread, you'll die laughing ....
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:11:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Originally by: Nafri
We also have:
"German Cyberdome Corp" <-- german
"Die Hanse" <-- RL
"Deutsche Luftwaffe" <-- military
"Jericho Fraction" <-- religius
Nafri
haha get ready to be called Eve Player 9657880 !
ahahahahah classic.....
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:16:00 -
[135]
Lol yeh I saw...
Originally by: s4mp3r0r
So i guess your name will be changed as well..
GG CCP or was it CCP or CCP or CCP
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:16:00 -
[136]
Will someone petition my name next? Or the hundrets of Daniel jacksons? Or will someone petition my corps name "Old Farts" cuz some part of it should not be used as a corp name? And why is there no reply from a forum headguy (kieron) in here yet?
Its a game and I¦m sure that the corps in question have really nothing in common with the RL one¦s.
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:21:00 -
[137]
Fell Deeds fails on the "discriminating organizations". No, I won't give details here but it's still technically existant as an organisation (hasn't DONE anything for 75 years, but...)
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:22:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Originally by: Nafri
We also have:
"German Cyberdome Corp" <-- german
"Die Hanse" <-- RL
"Deutsche Luftwaffe" <-- military
"Jericho Fraction" <-- religius
Nafri
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s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:28:00 -
[139]
I'm interested to see how CCP will reimburse the people that bought domain names to create their "corp homes".
Please submit your domain hosting bills to CCP.
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:30:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Nafri
"Jericho Fraction"
Actually, that would escape on that one, since Jericho is not actually a religion's name. However, it'd fail on another test which I won't get into on a public forum.
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Oosel
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:32:00 -
[141]
having had to have to change my name from p.o.r.nholio because somebody complained about it only to see cornhulio allowed to another player i know how corps who have had their names changed can bug you but in time you will get over it....just seems lame when you see some peoples bio's that are full of obscenities yet nothing is done
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Tiny Carlos
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:32:00 -
[142]
Imortal Red Army [IRA] - that's two in one
Royal Air Force [RAF]
Men Of Darkness [MOD]
Al Qi'ida [AL-AQ]
United States Marine Corps [USMC.]
It goes on and on, change them all
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:33:00 -
[143]
Edited by: Drilla on 07/11/2005 13:34:54
WE NEED THEKILLER8 TO DOCUMENT THIS
Seriously, the 4S thing I can acutally understand a bit, take the n.a.z.i symbol, it's a religious symbol in Asia/India, it's used by native americans, it's used in scandinavian mythology and was actually the logo for Carlsberg beer before the n.a.z.i perverted it.
I highly doubt that people would be in support of allowing the Svastika into the logo generation with the excuse that because a few used it wrongly that it doesnt change how people should feel about it.
Do you feel that the Svastika is okay to wear on T-Shirts or on your corp logo? ofc. not so 4S is offencive too.
S.A.S however is a GM on [insert drug here].
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:33:00 -
[144]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 07/11/2005 11:43:13
Originally by: Vishnej
DB - I did, but the association is there, whether that was your inspiration or not doesn't matter. Even so, I believe it unlikely that you would have made the alliance based purely on the verse, without Ambrose to point it out to you.
Blacklight already stated how we came up with the bob name, I guess you couldn't be bothered to read that either huh?
And if you had read my post you would have seen that according to the official line by CCP it is the real life name of the military company.
Band of Brothers is not associated with the company in real life, it is the name of a book written many years after the events of which it portrays and is indeed taken directly from Shakespeare which is, ofc, public domain.
I'm afraid you can complain all you want but we are covered.
There is a massive difference between our name and naming a company 4s or SAS.
dbp
Yea, dbp. BUT. According to the webpage I'm looking at, there was a WW2 group called Reikoku. Uh-oh?
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:35:00 -
[145]
"Yes BL the EULA isnt decisive enough. Which leads to exactly what I said, that if somebody thinks and finds for example Bob to be offensive, they can banz0r it."
The problem with this being obviously, anything can be found offensive, provided enough sand and a willing... other ingredient.
Some common sense needs to apply, otherwise we can quickly spiral this into absurd.
(oh wait, it already did --;;
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:37:00 -
[146]
I recall quite a few corporations having names linked to Judaism. I wonder if a name like 'Sword of Allah' would fly under the radar aswell.
Derka Derka!
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Skiving Larry
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:39:00 -
[147]
Can someone please find my character name offensive, I do but apparently that's not enough
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Yuzier OA
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:44:00 -
[148]
Band of brothers, ISS, Oracle Corp and many other names currently residing in in EVE has real world counterparts.
Even CCP has problems in that field, because many of their own coprnames are derived or can be found in the real world look at this
Amarr
or this
Caldari
The list goes on
Pator
hehe hope CCP has a copyright
CCP
Never knew these guys also made software, they are smart
Concord
Pirate orgs, make rl money
Serpentis
And finally " Mordus legion" google it and you if your good at french you will find, that it was part of the French legion figthing in the Sahara, they where accused of warcrimes and crimes against humanity, but hey this is only a game right CCP
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FoRGyL
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:50:00 -
[149]
CCP what is going on , what the **** are you up to?
Isen't this alittle over the top ,and why now?
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:51:00 -
[150]
Originally by: FoRGyL
CCP what is going on , what the **** are you up to?
Isen't this alittle over the top ,and why now?
-out-
mmmm chinese compliance maybe
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Posted - 2005.11.07 13:57:00 -
[151]
Seriously!
One of CCP's biggest problem is the response time to "Other" petitions. I don't even petition no more if it is not a stuck since I know that it will take a week+ to get an answer if I even get one. For my last 3 petitions I havn't received a response.
Now I see the reason why... the GM's are busy trying to find stupid **** instead.
Well.. if that how they want to play this I gonna sit down and send in petitions regarding RL associated corps and I will not stop until I reach at least 100 petitions.
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Invisible Touch
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
"Yes BL the EULA isnt decisive enough. Which leads to exactly what I said, that if somebody thinks and finds for example Bob to be offensive, they can banz0r it."
The problem with this being obviously, anything can be found offensive, provided enough sand and a willing... other ingredient.
Some common sense needs to apply, otherwise we can quickly spiral this into absurd.
(oh wait, it already did --;;
Signed.
Give the guys' corp name back. They have been around for ages. Ask them to change the motto in signatures and that would be more than enough.
And on a more serious note, if anything needs to be changed do NOT force the changes like caldari corp 008. And do it during the first couple of days from corp's name creation not 1337 years after.
To CCP: The game is supposed to have its own politics, and it does, so leave RL out of it.
Every day we stand is another day for PA
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Nimbu
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:02:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Drilla
Edited by: Drilla on 07/11/2005 13:34:54
WE NEED THEKILLER8 TO DOCUMENT THIS
Seriously, the 4S thing I can acutally understand a bit, take the n.a.z.i symbol, it's a religious symbol in Asia/India, it's used by native americans, it's used in scandinavian mythology and was actually the logo for Carlsberg beer before the n.a.z.i perverted it.
I highly doubt that people would be in support of allowing the Svastika into the logo generation with the excuse that because a few used it wrongly that it doesnt change how people should feel about it.
Do you feel that the Svastika is okay to wear on T-Shirts or on your corp logo? ofc. not so 4S is offencive too.
S.A.S however is a GM on [insert drug here].
Er, my family is Hindu, and you will find the symbol outside our homes above the door as well as inside the house. Also plastered up in the local temples too.
99% of the above is said in RP. The Other 1% is personal, and should be taken that way. :P
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla
Edited by: Drilla on 07/11/2005 13:34:54
WE NEED THEKILLER8 TO DOCUMENT THIS
Seriously, the 4S thing I can acutally understand a bit, take the n.a.z.i symbol, it's a religious symbol in Asia/India, it's used by native americans, it's used in scandinavian mythology and was actually the logo for Carlsberg beer before the n.a.z.i perverted it.
I highly doubt that people would be in support of allowing the Svastika into the logo generation with the excuse that because a few used it wrongly that it doesnt change how people should feel about it.
Do you feel that the Svastika is okay to wear on T-Shirts or on your corp logo? ofc. not so 4S is offencive too.
S.A.S however is a GM on [insert drug here].
Actually the svastika can still be seen today on the wings of preserved Finnish Fighter planes in Finland, before the N.a.z.i party adopted it the finnish Airforce used it on there planes, but because of Mass media and the N.a.z.i infulence all we in the westren world see is N.a.z.i when ever the symbol is used.
Just remember the cross symbol which all the chatolics ect in the world hold dear was at one time the symbol of the Crusades and the butchering of unbelievers and pagens. But we in the westren world see what we want.
" Stay Frosty "
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Termy
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Originally by: Nafri
We also have:
"German Cyberdome Corp" <-- german
"Die Hanse" <-- RL
"Deutsche Luftwaffe" <-- military
"Jericho Fraction" <-- religius
Nafri
haha get ready to be called Eve Player 9657880 !
uppsss
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:16:00 -
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Now Nafri, you're gonna approve what CCP does or you're gonna have a new name
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: Darcuese on 07/11/2005 14:17:23
So, let me get this straight.
After a year of playing someone found out that my name are offending someone. Then my name is changed to number. So, ifI would like that number to change in to new name...AM I THE ONE THAT WILL PAY FOR IT, or is that on the house?
If so, some nice trick you CCP's pulled out.
BTW, I dont send mails over buddy program anymore cause I dont have nerves to explain my friends that lags are just temporaly and it will be fixed...just pay and be patiance...you will enjoy...I promise
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Omatje
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:21:00 -
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Not even to mention: Republic Military School
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:39:00 -
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@ CCP
oveur
^^ im offended by this relating to a fictional char in USAF
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Nathrezim
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:41:00 -
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Edited by: Nathrezim on 07/11/2005 14:43:02
Edited by: Nathrezim on 07/11/2005 14:41:57
Originally by: Yuzier OA
Band of brothers, ISS, Oracle Corp and many other names currently residing in in EVE has real world counterparts.
Even CCP has problems in that field, because many of their own coprnames are derived or can be found in the real world look at this
Amarr
or this
Caldari
The list goes on
Pator
hehe hope CCP has a copyright
CCP
Never knew these guys also made software, they are smart
Concord
Pirate orgs, make rl money
Serpentis
And finally " Mordus legion" google it and you if your good at french you will find, that it was part of the French legion figthing in the Sahara, they where accused of warcrimes and crimes against humanity, but hey this is only a game right CCP
ZOMG TEH POWNZOR !!!!!!!! LOLOLOL !!!! So,CCP whats up? Where are the GMs to reply to all these queries? EH? EH? EH? EH? EH? EH? EH? EH?
What's up? CAT BITE YOUR TONGUE?!?! LOL !! YOU guys are the LAUGH !!! AHAHAH I know !! ITS an inside JOKE ROFLMAO !!!!!!
This is rediculous..Thats why no GM is answering and thats why this post is gonna get locked in a bit with an answer like this : Errr,this is a flaming post....But FEAR NOT ! At least have the respect and show the dignity to answer all these questions before locking this down...OMG im still laughing at you guys who try to keep the EULA when you have broken it yourselves...AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
and i feel sad for a well-known, 2 and half year old corp like S.A.S. to be treated like this..this is ghey and lame.
that's all...Get real CCP and get conserned with other problems like fixing the lag and looking into other more important petitions...
*edits were made for typo mistakes*
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Sean Drake
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:48:00 -
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Ok and in the case of copyrighted stuff as well as playing eve I read quite a few books and alot of names of regions,systems and races have ahem been borrowed from sci fi and fantasy books. A copy of the game map sent to the publishing houses would probably get ccp wtfpwned fairly quickly so maybe ppl in glass houses should leave rocks alone. (unlees they got permission of course)
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Musician
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:52:00 -
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plz can i have my name changed 2?
and signed
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Professor McFly
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Posted - 2005.11.07 14:58:00 -
[163]
OMG I just noticed the game uses the english language... but this language exists in RL too!!!!!!! BAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Slink Grinsdikild
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:15:00 -
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Edited by: Slink Grinsdikild on 07/11/2005 15:16:30
You just know CCP are going to stonewall us on this one. I was surprised Oveur came out with a one liner on the corp name policy in that other thread.
And lets face it. At the end of the day its their game, their double standards, their retarded policies. They can be as hypocritical and just plain wrong as they want and there isn't a thing we can do about it, besides throw a tantrum on the forums or cancel our subscriptions.
If I was CCP though I would atleast make myself a little clearer on why those names in particular were changed, and why others got away scot free. If only to stop the rumor mill from going into overdrive.
I'm new to EVE, but not to MMO's. And as far as companies go this brings CCP down a peg or two in my book, for what its worth.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:15:00 -
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ccp give them their names back for heavens sake
STAN
FACTA NON VERBA
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zincol
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:23:00 -
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Edited by: zincol on 07/11/2005 15:25:17
CCP WTF is this! if corps are not allowed such names then you shouldnt let them at the start NOT 2 years later ffs.
Change it back.
I think Other such corps names should be changed also :
Such as Mafia,Yakuza... and so on theres at least 50+
also SAS Strike force/special forces ^^ LOL ccp/gms ect u suck.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:30:00 -
[167]
Originally by: zincol
CCP WTF is this! if corps are not allowed such names then you shouldnt let them at the start NOT 2 years later ffs.
Quoted.
For the rest of you who wear so many blinkers: the crucial point is NOT that some random link to an RL company or organisation can be *found*, it's the direct use of it in-game. SAS openly and deliberately modelled themselves on a RL military organisation, which should never have been allowed in the first place; but it WAS, and to come out two and a half years later and change it is just ridiculous.
IRON has nothing whatsoever to do with the military campaign in Iraq, and NORAD has nothing to do with the .. err... whatever US military thing it was/is, I forgot  . They just happen to share the initials. Take a look at the Wikipedia quote above, and you can see that a vast number of organisations share the same initials without it meaning there's a deliberate link between them.
Celt Corp, I agree wholeheartedly. Shouldn't have been allowed. Of course, since I didn't even join the corporation until over two years after it was founded, you can curse and petition that one as much as you like. Nothing whatsoever to do with me.
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:31:00 -
[168]
ok this is utter bull****....
ITS a game ffs.
those corp names could mean a billion things and the in RL its SAS not S.A.S
i dont know mych about the 4s corp but it could stand for some like 4 snowmens
come on CCP get it fixed
Originally by: Eris Discordia
As a minmatar I have to say the only good Amarr is a dead Amarr
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:32:00 -
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@Drilla:
Actually, I think the swastika is perfectly fine to wear or display - if people are ignorant of its meaning then tough.
2 things to say on this subject:
1 - I agree with Deathwing, CCP - this is a bridge too far, your GM team needs some serious re-education, they are failing in some pretty BIG ways which is undoing alot of the very good, effective and efficient work they do.
2 - Offence can never be given, it can only be taken. The people that play this game, more than any other I have experienced, have minds of their own. If something offends them, then that's their problem - not yours and it sure as hell isn't ours.
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Marcus Aurelius
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: Marcus Aurelius on 07/11/2005 15:32:23
Quote:
If I was CCP though I would atleast make myself a little clearer on why those names in particular were changed, and why others got away scot free.
Eerrh...
Because some ****wit petitioned SAS but not the others ?
[sarcasm]
I dont know, just grabbing an explanation out of the air here. After all, its very very likely there's gm's with enough spare time to go look for corpnames to change right. And of course, they would love to find an example as clearcut at 'SAS when they do so, not the far less obvious charnames that fill up our empire hubs, like "Kumwad, "Himmler", "Dik Weed" and whatever more there's around Eve.
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Yuzier OA
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:34:00 -
[171]
I know that BoB or "band of brothers", say that their name is derived from shakespeare, but nevertheless the name is affiliated with a rather wellknow Millitary unit in the RL 101st airborne, staitioned out of Fort Cambell Tennesse.
The sreaming eagles even use the name "Band of Brothers" in their operations.
Task Force "Band Of Brothers"
Well Easy Company 506th regiment of the 101st Airborne Divison "The screaming Eagles", and the late Author Stenphen Ambrose, certainly made the term "Band of brothers" wellknown, allthough DB Preacher is right, it also turns up in shakespeare.
But im pretty sure Playtone,HBO,Warnerbrothers or Dreamworks, have it copyrigthed somewhere.
But I am sure you could find people who will find it offensive that this "Honerary" term i.g 101st airborne being used in a game, the world is full of nitpickers
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:40:00 -
[172]
This thread is hilarious in a tragic kind of way
Is there some RL cult somewhere?
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Yuzier OA
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:44:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Mitchman
This thread is hilarious in a tragic kind of way
Is there some RL cult somewhere?
I love Lovecrafts universe, and i think CoC is a great name, but you may reconsider affiliating yourselves with it look at this
Its a conspiracy i tell you, get out your tinfoils
The worls is a crazy place
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:46:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Dianabolic
@Drilla:
Actually, I think the swastika is perfectly fine to wear or display - if people are ignorant of its meaning then tough.
Fyi displaying the swastika in public is illegal in some countries. So if it is in Iceland or if ccp dislikes it, they could prolly get you banz0red.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:46:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Dianabolic
@Drilla:
Actually, I think the swastika is perfectly fine to wear or display - if people are ignorant of its meaning then tough.
2 things to say on this subject:
1 - I agree with Deathwing, CCP - this is a bridge too far, your GM team needs some serious re-education, they are failing in some pretty BIG ways which is undoing alot of the very good, effective and efficient work they do.
2 - Offence can never be given, it can only be taken. The people that play this game, more than any other I have experienced, have minds of their own. If something offends them, then that's their problem - not yours and it sure as hell isn't ours.
Only you will visit the jail when you wear it in germany 
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:53:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: zincol
CCP WTF is this! if corps are not allowed such names then you shouldnt let them at the start NOT 2 years later ffs.
Quoted.
For the rest of you who wear so many blinkers: the crucial point is NOT that some random link to an RL company or organisation can be *found*, it's the direct use of it in-game. SAS openly and deliberately modelled themselves on a RL military organisation, which should never have been allowed in the first place; but it WAS, and to come out two and a half years later and change it is just ridiculous.
IRON has nothing whatsoever to do with the military campaign in Iraq, and NORAD has nothing to do with the .. err... whatever US military thing it was/is, I forgot . They just happen to share the initials. Take a look at the Wikipedia quote above, and you can see that a vast number of organisations share the same initials without it meaning there's a deliberate link between them.
Celt Corp, I agree wholeheartedly. Shouldn't have been allowed. Of course, since I didn't even join the corporation until over two years after it was founded, you can curse and petition that one as much as you like. Nothing whatsoever to do with me.
S.A.S never modelled itself as the RL SAS. If your referring to one of our members' signature, that is not like our corp motto or nething. He just put in there I guess because he found the RL name comparison and found it to be interesting. But the name was not modelled after the RL elite force.
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Posted - 2005.11.07 15:56:00 -
[177]
Originally by: MegaJ
S.A.S never modelled itself as the RL SAS. If your referring to one of our members' signature, that is not like our corp motto or nething. He just put in there I guess because he found the RL name comparison and found it to be interesting. But the name was not modelled after the RL elite force.
In that case, petition to get HIM banned, and get your name back.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.07 16:05:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Dianabolic
@Drilla:
Actually, I think the swastika is perfectly fine to wear or display - if people are ignorant of its meaning then tough.
2 things to say on this subject:
1 - I agree with Deathwing, CCP - this is a bridge too far, your GM team needs some serious re-education, they are failing in some pretty BIG ways which is undoing alot of the very good, effective and efficient work they do.
2 - Offence can never be given, it can only be taken. The people that play this game, more than any other I have experienced, have minds of their own. If something offends them, then that's their problem - not yours and it sure as hell isn't ours.
Only you will visit the jail when you wear it in germany
Oh, without doubt, and in others women are stoned for showing their face...
This action has effectively enraged the whole community (the one that uses the forums anyway) to concede ONE person's vendetta.
This person has exploited the petition system to gain cheap points. He should be banned.
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Schani Kratnorr
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Posted - 2005.11.07 16:10:00 -
[179]
EULA states: Quote:
You are encouraged to use a pseudonym, but you may not choose a name that violates anyone's trademarks, publicity rights or other rights. Acceptance of a pseudonym by the System does not mean that your chosen pseudonym does not violate anyone's rights. You are responsible for any liability incurred by yourself, CCP or anyone else due to the pseudonym you choose. CCP retains the right to reject any pseudonym it determines, in its sole discretion, is unlawful, indecent, obscene or otherwise violates standards of good taste.
So CCP reserved the right to do anything, to anyone, at any time...
I've never come across any community or fanbase that is completely, 100% "original". Thankfully we humans are easily inspired, and draw our inspiration from numerous sources.
At the heart of the matter (it seems) is the possibility that we (the players) start drawing attention to names and imagery which may or may not violate the copyrights of other corporations. Games-Workshop (Warhammer 40,000), Paramount (star trek), Babylon 5, Coca-Cola, IBM, Apple, and hundreds of other organisations are having their rights violated each and every day, but unless someone gives a rat's arse, it's not a problem...
this leads to the conclusion that:
CCP got contacted by someone who felt the names in question needed changing... So the real problem is that... SOMEONE's A SNITCH!!!!
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2005.11.07 16:23:00 -
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Next thing we know E X O D U S will be forbidden cause it's "named after an expansion of a certain MMOG" (although we were first to make the corp).
And I'm sure I've seen corps like Microsoft Corporation, Xanadu, The Sovjet Union, etc... around to. All forbidden now?
Ridiculous. (Think I've said it before in another thread...)
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Geralt Rivia
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Posted - 2005.11.07 16:27:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Next thing we know E X O D U S will be forbidden cause it's "named after an expansion of a certain MMOG" (although we were first to make the corp).
And I'm sure I've seen corps like Microsoft Corporation, Xanadu, The Sovjet Union, etc... around to. All forbidden now?
Ridiculous. (Think I've said it before in another thread...)
Not yet
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.11.07 16:31:00 -
[182]
Gotta shake my head at this... There must have been someoen complaining about the name for the GM's o change it. S.A.S has been very vocal on the forums ana dactive in game... there is no question the GM's have seen their name before and done nothing.. Why now? Obviously someone has complained and whoever that was must have had a damn good reason for doing so...
In any case i dont think changing the identity of a group of people should be done on the complaint of just a single person. Changing a corporation name is a HUGE deal.. its not like changing a character name.. it can effect hwo they do business or how the interact with other organizations... Imagine if they changed the name of NAGA... the inpact ingame would be profound... Think very hard before changing the name of a corporation.
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Fred Flintstone
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Posted - 2005.11.07 16:35:00 -
[183]
guess mine wont last that long either
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.07 16:38:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Dianabolic
@Drilla:
Actually, I think the swastika is perfectly fine to wear or display - if people are ignorant of its meaning then tough.
2 things to say on this subject:
1 - I agree with Deathwing, CCP - this is a bridge too far, your GM team needs some serious re-education, they are failing in some pretty BIG ways which is undoing alot of the very good, effective and efficient work they do.
2 - Offence can never be given, it can only be taken. The people that play this game, more than any other I have experienced, have minds of their own. If something offends them, then that's their problem - not yours and it sure as hell isn't ours.
Only you will visit the jail when you wear it in germany
Oh, without doubt, and in others women are stoned for showing their face...
This action has effectively enraged the whole community (the one that uses the forums anyway) to concede ONE person's vendetta.
This person has exploited the petition system to gain cheap points. He should be banned.
its just if thy would allow them in bios or so, Eve-Online will be not only 18+, it will be forbidden in this country
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Posted - 2005.11.07 16:44:00 -
[185]
Scraches my head .... where is the MODS/GM/CCP to take a stance on this matter why they keeping a low profile ????
CCP/GM stop hidding we want an answer ....like today.
thanks
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Selpy
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:03:00 -
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you know, I find this funny as hell, those GM's must be bored as hell to go and pull this on 4S and S.A.S, I mean, how long does a daniel jackson thread or <insert alt here> thread's get whacked with a *click* on the first page? This thread's gone on for 7 pages now, with not a peep from CCP/ISD.
So what gives? think CCP/GM's stepped on thier customers toes and are afraid to admit it?
[Selpy hand's the GM's a set of......]
Put the nerf bat down for 5 minutes and actually THINK about what your doing, your alienating your customer base, methink's that nerf bat is in violation of a toy company's (R)(TM), someone should take THAT away from the dev's :P
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00Dead
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Love Ya
Scraches my head .... where is the MODS/GM/CCP to take a stance on this matter why they keeping a low profile ????
CCP/GM stop hidding we want an answer ....like today.
thanks
The low profile is due to the mighty balls up that CCP have landed themselves in.
They are chosen to nuke 2 corp names when many many much more worse and offensive names exist (players or corps).
THIS IS A GAME - Neither names are literally offensive - GIVE THEM THEIR NAMES BACK AND LETS MOVE ON.
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:19:00 -
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It's probably not locked because it would be seen as a tacit (whether true or not) admission that the chaps and chapesses dropped the proverbial ball.
They'll let us rant and whine and bleat until the thread dies it's own death or they'll let it ride for a while then lock it once the community has vented it's spleen.
For the record, bad move CCP.
Having said that, it's not like knee-jerk moderation EVER happens now does it?
your sarcasm module deactivates due to the point being made
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:19:00 -
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I'm collecting corpnames that in some way or form can be considered copyrighted, military or offensive.
If S.A.S' name is not returned by friday I'll petiton each and every one of them.
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XBG Holding
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:21:00 -
[190]
Ok feel free to change the name of my corp(Praetorian Black Guard)as it was a Roman military origanizatin and feel free to ban the ceo(me)while your at it
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slip66
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:24:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Baun
Edited by: Baun on 07/11/2005 05:16:06
Sigh, this is stupid and disrespectful.
GMs, Devs or anyone else should not act capriciously and treat their customers with no respect. If there are real reasons that names need to be changed than the people who run this game need to publically state them and give the community a chance to have input on them before they start altering people's corp names willy nilly.
(and yes, even if the rules have been there, for the case of S.A.S, not 4S, because they haven't been enforced in 2.5 years, the GMs cannot just act on them at random)
sums it up for me. This is BS. So if me and my corp mates make a corp called "Coast Guard" that will get banned? wtf CCP.
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fl0pski
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:31:00 -
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Dear CCP, you are in violation with your own EULA.
One of your drones is named after a militairy battalion.
I quote "moron" from IRC.
<moron> http://www.military.com/HomePage/UnitCreatedPage/0,11003,705737,00.html - Hammerhead Battalion ;)
Please change the name to Drone 008.
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Nadar
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:31:00 -
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CCP will have to change the names of pretty much all the ships now. EVE has TONS of rip-offs, so I can only assume they will be changed aswell?
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Fortune Fader
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:34:00 -
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Edited by: Fortune Fader on 07/11/2005 17:35:07
This is the part where 4S make sence, in some global logic "ONLY UNITY WILL SAVE US". Like this happend to 4S and SAS, it can strike almost EVERY corp in EVE, and that is the worst thing here.
Some action must take place, to prevent such BS, That is why we should stop just blabing about it here, and DEMAND explenation, and withdraw of this name-changes !
CCP, WE WANT ANSWERS, AND WE WANT THEM NOW !!!!!
IF YOU CLOSE THIS TOPIC, WE WILL OPEN ANOTHER, AND ANOTHER, UNTIL WE GET OUR ANSWER !!!!
THINK TWICE BEFORE MAKING YOUR RUSHED MISTAKES LIKE IN THIS TWO CASES (4S and SAS) BECOUSE PEOPLE DONT WANT TO PAY YOU TO GET DEGRADED LIKE THIS.
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Ryiah Thesa
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:35:00 -
[195]
This is so incredibly dumb. Give me ANY GM name or corp or EVE ships or NPC corps. They are ALL in violation of your own policy. Because the policy is dumb.
5 mins with Google and you can find real life references to ANYTHING.
Give them their name back, change the policy and learn from your mistakes instead of ****ing off the whole community.
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fl0pski
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:43:00 -
[196]
http://www.arcane-tech.com
Copyright ® 2002-2005 Arcane Technologies, Inc.
I hope one of you Caldari Corp 009 Errr ATUK members are the owner of this company.
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LcGhK9
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:47:00 -
[197]
Edited by: LcGhK9 on 07/11/2005 17:47:17
Originally by: fl0pski
http://www.arcane-tech.com
Copyright ® 2002-2005 Arcane Technologies, Inc.
I hope one of you Caldari Corp 009 Errr ATUK members are the owner of this company.
http://www.nbsicorp.com/
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fl0pski
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:51:00 -
[198]
Originally by: LcGhK9
Edited by: LcGhK9 on 07/11/2005 17:47:17
Originally by: fl0pski
http://www.arcane-tech.com
Copyright ® 2002-2005 Arcane Technologies, Inc.
I hope one of you Caldari Corp 009 Errr ATUK members are the owner of this company.
sorry I didnt know Not Blue Shoot It referred to that company.
http://www.nbsicorp.com/
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Carth Jared
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:54:00 -
[199]
Originally by: fl0pski
Originally by: LcGhK9
Edited by: LcGhK9 on 07/11/2005 17:47:17
Originally by: fl0pski
http://www.arcane-tech.com
Copyright ® 2002-2005 Arcane Technologies, Inc.
I hope one of you Caldari Corp 009 Errr ATUK members are the owner of this company.
sorry I didnt know Not Blue Shoot It referred to that company.
http://www.nbsicorp.com/
Doesnt really matter does it... Its the same names hence ur in the same boat as us ;)
cept its ur alliance and its our corp ofc..
ATUK | The 5
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LcGhK9
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:54:00 -
[200]
Originally by: fl0pski
Originally by: LcGhK9
Edited by: LcGhK9 on 07/11/2005 17:47:17
Originally by: fl0pski
http://www.arcane-tech.com
Copyright ® 2002-2005 Arcane Technologies, Inc.
I hope one of you Caldari Corp 009 Errr ATUK members are the owner of this company.
sorry I didnt know Not Blue Shoot It referred to that company.
http://www.nbsicorp.com/
no its doesnt, but i thought it was funny.
twunt.
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fl0pski
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:57:00 -
[201]
just want atuk to come blob around our bonfire in Rens. <3
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Marcus Grisbius
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Posted - 2005.11.07 17:58:00 -
[202]
The issue comes down to a couple things. First, CCP can't possibly scan through all the corp and player names to filter which ones mean something offensive or not. Thus, they rely on a petition system that allows people to voice their offense and then if it has merit a change can be made. There are a great many corp or player names, as has been noted, that COULD be found offensive. They may not have been petitioned yet.
Secondly, military and political connections need to be made using common sense. While using a name from the US military such as Marines or the like would probably be allowed, making a name like Abu-Ghraib Guards would be HIGHLY offensive to people. It DOES have a lot to do with context and connotations, just as Nafri made clear with the swastika. The connotations surrounding 4S could be VERY emotionally charged for certain people who may have suffered from the evil military group rather than just have a hatred for all Serbs.
There have also been other corps names that have have been changed in the past and it hasnt been only recently that CCP have started doing this. Israeli Defense Force was forced to change names. People's Front of Judea was also changed I believe (iirc they're People's Front of Minmatar now). There was an Al-qaeda spoof corp that had it's named changed as well.
It all comes down whether there is reasonable justification for CCP to change the name. And that is only down in response to a complaint. It's well within their right to do so as stated in the EULA and just because you've had the name for a long time doesnt guarantee that your name isnt highly offensive to someone for a good reason. I agree that it's very annoying but it's a risk that you take when using a RL connection in corp naming. Most of the time it won't be a problem, but there will always be the possibility.
Certainty of death... little chance of success... what are we waiting for? - Gimli, son of Gloinn |
Shinoobie
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Posted - 2005.11.07 18:20:00 -
[203]
Edited by: Shinoobie on 07/11/2005 18:20:55
They remove S.A.S. and leave characters called.....
Taliban
*****h
BinLadenBigSister
****face
****bag
******up
****youcouch*****
****me
****'me'im'bad
*******
****Face5000
**********
****inuup
****Japan
****Off
etc... on the F**K's
****er
etc... on the W*****r's (you get my point)
Royal Marine
I do not expect to receive any forms of warnings for posting those as they are taken from CCP's game and are valid characters ingame and can post on these forums. I am just quoting names directly from the game, and have not actually used the offensive words myself.
CCP Please look how ridiculous you are making yourselves look. I do appreciate a certain amount of moderation is required. But just look above, you have
more important offenders to deal with.
Sad, so very sad.
Edit - Lol even the forum censors blank out names taken from their own game!!! ROFL
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Sergi
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Posted - 2005.11.07 18:50:00 -
[204]
What can I say? 8)
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.07 18:57:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Selpy
you know, I find this funny as hell, those GM's must be bored as hell to go and pull this on 4S and S.A.S, I mean, how long does a daniel jackson thread or <insert alt here> thread's get whacked with a *click* on the first page? This thread's gone on for 7 pages now, with not a peep from CCP/ISD.
So what gives? think CCP/GM's stepped on thier customers toes and are afraid to admit it?
[Selpy hand's the GM's a set of......]
Put the nerf bat down for 5 minutes and actually THINK about what your doing, your alienating your customer base, methink's that nerf bat is in violation of a toy company's (R)(TM), someone should take THAT away from the dev's :P
probably thy are smart enough to make a no confrontion policy on this matter, locking posts about it would cause several grief in the community and will cause lots of anger
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:18:00 -
[206]
This is the next logical step in eve. In fact, the new BPO's have begun dropping, see below
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:19:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Malken
Originally by: Muthsera
RL link to military organisation.
that would mean that "Band of Brothers" alliance would be in violation of the rule also as it is a registered trademark anme for a TV show.
when will the GM madness end ?
if you are going to do them then do them all or do none.
TV isnt rl
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torpedo
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:32:00 -
[208]
WTS: new skill !
Corporation Name Smuggling
+10% chance of going through CCP's filter per level.
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Amon Evakrace
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:33:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Deathwing
Edited by: Deathwing on 07/11/2005 06:03:43
"Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups"
InterBus - http://www.interbus.co.nz/
http://www.interbusonline.com/
http://www.interbus.com.pl/
ORE - http://www.ore.com/
http://www.ore-inc.com/
http://www.oreresearch.com.au/main.htm
Echelon Entertainment - http://www.echelonent.com/
Mercantile Club - http://www.mercantile-club.com/
Senate and Supreme Court Corporations in the Gallente Federation, im sure we are all aware that many countries have in their governmental body a "Senate" and a "Supreme Court" so that to would also be emulating a real-world group
If CCP wants to play on semantics, i can spend more then 5 minutes scrolling thru CCP created NPC corp names and googling stuff and finding references to rl groups and organizations
in closing
give them their names back
sit down
and stfu
Rofl beautiful man, i guess all we need now is to do a few calls and let these RL corps know CCP is ripping them off..... |
Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:33:00 -
[210]
Originally by: torpedo
WTS: new skill !
Corporation Name Smuggling
+10% chance of going through CCP's filter per level.
LMAO..
SoonÖ
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:35:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Amon Evakrace
Originally by: Deathwing
Edited by: Deathwing on 07/11/2005 06:03:43
"Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups"
InterBus - http://www.interbus.co.nz/
http://www.interbusonline.com/
http://www.interbus.com.pl/
ORE - http://www.ore.com/
http://www.ore-inc.com/
http://www.oreresearch.com.au/main.htm
Echelon Entertainment - http://www.echelonent.com/
Mercantile Club - http://www.mercantile-club.com/
Senate and Supreme Court Corporations in the Gallente Federation, im sure we are all aware that many countries have in their governmental body a "Senate" and a "Supreme Court" so that to would also be emulating a real-world group
If CCP wants to play on semantics, i can spend more then 5 minutes scrolling thru CCP created NPC corp names and googling stuff and finding references to rl groups and organizations
in closing
give them their names back
sit down
and stfu
Rofl beautiful man, i guess all we need now is to do a few calls and let these RL corps know CCP is ripping them off.....
Free marketing is better than no marketing 
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Tiny Carlos
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:42:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Sun Ra
TV isnt rl
Lies!11
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:44:00 -
[213]
While were on this rediculous topic, anyone notice striking similarities between the blood raiders and the reavers from Firefly/Serenity? Ebil space rats whos ships are covered in blood? And there are even Blood Reavers!? I noticed this while looking at a bhaalgorn in space, then over at the show.
I got into a long debate with my friend about how Eve was long in the making before Firefly, but now I'm wondering why i was defending CCP if they will not defend their customers.
End the Witch hunt.
It doesnt do anyone any good.
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Tarsha Listur
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:44:00 -
[214]
Edited by: Tarsha Listur on 07/11/2005 19:45:58
ok there names are "offensive", but changing them over 2 years later in some cases is bad mkay.
This recently happend to a good friend of mine after 2 years.
My final opinion "This is F***ted up"
BTW my submission crashed coz 5+ peeps responded at the time, a sign maybe
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Amon Evakrace
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:53:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Caybn E'vangel
While were on this rediculous topic, anyone notice striking similarities between the blood raiders and the reavers from Firefly/Serenity? Ebil space rats whos ships are covered in blood? And there are even Blood Reavers!? I noticed this while looking at a bhaalgorn in space, then over at the show.
I got into a long debate with my friend about how Eve was long in the making before Firefly, but now I'm wondering why i was defending CCP if they will not defend their customers.
End the Witch hunt.
It doesnt do anyone any good.
Doesnt count, thats like saying "Damn eve is a complete RIP OFF of homeworld games, i mean JESUS!"
Just cause its alike doesnt break the rules Anyways give SAS their corp name backs, end this bs! |
Nathrezim
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:56:00 -
[216]
220+ replies on this topic,8 pages and still no official reply from a GM or something...
/me wonders...
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Mornee
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:02:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Marcus Grisbius
The connotations surrounding 4S could be VERY emotionally charged for certain people who may have suffered from the evil military group rather than just have a hatred for all Serbs.
If someone did committed a crime wearing 4S emblem, you can't say that 4S represents something vile/evil based solely on that. Otherwise you're practically saying that if, for example, terrorist wore Adidas shoes, Adidas Company should be held responsible for his crimes too. Once again, 4S is a phrase, a slogan for our nation, just as English phrase "God save the Queen".
We are not trying to marginalize things, but if 4S was really a symbol of something cruel and sinister would it be allowed in our national flag and coat-of-arms that are displayed in all diplomatic organizations through out the world?
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4S Forums | 4S KillList | 4S IRC |
Orin Malbaum
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:06:00 -
[218]
Fristly, CHANGE THEM BACK!!1!11one.
Also i/any who agree demand a response from a GM or someone official as to what has inspired them to take this ludicrous step with a corp that has been a well known and possibly feared name since pretty much the beginning of the game. Three letters: W T F
Response demanded, post if u agree we should at least get a respone on a matter the community objects so strongly to.
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:08:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Amon Evakrace
Originally by: Caybn E'vangel
While were on this rediculous topic, anyone notice striking similarities between the blood raiders and the reavers from Firefly/Serenity? Ebil space rats whos ships are covered in blood? And there are even Blood Reavers!? I noticed this while looking at a bhaalgorn in space, then over at the show.
I got into a long debate with my friend about how Eve was long in the making before Firefly, but now I'm wondering why i was defending CCP if they will not defend their customers.
End the Witch hunt.
It doesnt do anyone any good.
Doesnt count, thats like saying "Damn eve is a complete RIP OFF of homeworld games, i mean JESUS!"
Just cause its alike doesnt break the rules Anyways give SAS their corp name backs, end this bs!
Lol, I know, that was mostly just a joke, but all the points have been made, and all the opinions voiced, yet still no response or closure. I know it's not the same thing, I was just pointing out how easy it is to find fault in anything if you look hard enough.
So yeah, 2 corps, 2 names, 8 pages, 0 response. I trust we're just waiting for the results from a ccp meeting about this, cause you have voices from a very diverse amount of the playerbase here.
I dont think this can be ignored.
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:09:00 -
[220]
Edited by: dabster on 07/11/2005 20:10:20
Reply from Kieron
Quote:
I know there are going to be players that disagree with my reply to this thread. As much as I try, I know I cannot make 100% of the community happy. Having said that...
CCP's character and corporation naming policies have been in effect for many years, the EULA and Terms of Service are one of the first documents laid down by any gaming company. These documents are designed with the protection of both, the company and the player base in mind.
All intentions and interpretations can be misconstrued or abused. The naming policies and decisions made over the last few days are being discussed internally and a decision will be reached. Will this discussion result in a change to the naming policy? That is one possibility. It might also result in a name change for many corporations out there. Be careful with what you wish for. The outcome may be entirely different than the wish.
In the interim, there are some corporations petitioning other corporations with names that have real life counterparts or connotations. It could be said that these corporations are griefing other corporations in an attempt to make their point. This MUST cease.
Yes, I use griefing purposefully. Abusing the support system to make a point and cause hardship for other players is griefing and another violation of the EULA.
As I stated, the topic is being discussed internally and a decision will be reached.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
As many dont read General discussions^^
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Captain Capslock
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:13:00 -
[221]
Edited by: Captain Capslock on 07/11/2005 20:14:19
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 07/11/2005 11:43:13
Originally by: Vishnej
DB - I did, but the association is there, whether that was your inspiration or not doesn't matter. Even so, I believe it unlikely that you would have made the alliance based purely on the verse, without Ambrose to point it out to you.
Blacklight already stated how we came up with the bob name, I guess you couldn't be bothered to read that either huh?
And if you had read my post you would have seen that according to the official line by CCP it is the real life name of the military company.
Band of Brothers is not associated with the company in real life, it is the name of a book written many years after the events of which it portrays and is indeed taken directly from Shakespeare which is, ofc, public domain.
I'm afraid you can complain all you want but we are covered.
There is a massive difference between our name and naming a company 4s or SAS.
dbp
actually, how you came up with the name would not matter at all. As long as _one_ random idiot finds that it is offensive or whatever it could be petitioned. I'll bet my computer (it's sweet) that somebody wrote the letters SAS/4S next to each other at least once during the last 500 years (and completely unrelated to any of the known SAS/4s entities).
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Cookie
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:13:00 -
[222]
Why don't we petition the hell out of each other till everybody just wears a name with a number,
then we all meet up for the final battle .. like .. even vs odd numbers or so.
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:13:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Deathwing
Edited by: Deathwing on 07/11/2005 06:03:43
"Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups"
InterBus - http://www.interbus.co.nz/
http://www.interbusonline.com/
http://www.interbus.com.pl/
ORE - http://www.ore.com/
http://www.ore-inc.com/
http://www.oreresearch.com.au/main.htm
Echelon Entertainment - http://www.echelonent.com/
Mercantile Club - http://www.mercantile-club.com/
Senate and Supreme Court Corporations in the Gallente Federation, im sure we are all aware that many countries have in their governmental body a "Senate" and a "Supreme Court" so that to would also be emulating a real-world group
If CCP wants to play on semantics, i can spend more then 5 minutes scrolling thru CCP created NPC corp names and googling stuff and finding references to rl groups and organizations
in closing
give them their names back
sit down
and stfu
QFT.
-omg-
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Smart Ass
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:19:00 -
[224]
Had a GM ask me to change my name untill i explained ASS was a donkey of some description
And OMG...WTF, who never engadged there brain before making a silly move like changing a corp name
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:31:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Cookie
Why don't we petition the hell out of each other till everybody just wears a name with a number,
then we all meet up for the final battle .. like .. even vs odd numbers or so.
Lol.
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Grash Freedom
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:36:00 -
[226]
???????????????????????????????????????????????????
CCP plz fix you stupidar and when you do let us know. A formal letter with all the personnel that you have fired will be just ok.
and BEWARE we ARE eve! WE control the game, and we had enough,
BTW change our corp name plz there is a RL corp named MAZA after Mohamed Ali Zainal Abdulla(the owner)
www.maza.com
Hmm wait a sec!! maza it's a greek word after all and it means mass, i will have the Greek goverment to sue this guy for trademark! How he dares to name his company MAZA?
Corp names that must be changed!!!!
Zeta Aquilae : zeta after the motorbike police force in greece
Zeta interstellar Industries ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
Zeta-reticuli corp ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.11.07 21:16:00 -
[227]
There goes my idea about petitioning stupid corps for their name as kieron said its griefing now :(
Damn BoB can keep their names now
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.07 21:34:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Kuolematon
There goes my idea about petitioning stupid corps for their name as kieron said its griefing now :(
Damn BoB can keep their names now
Hell no. Then they better give us back the name to. If that suddenly is griefing. It's on the same agreement to the rules. You cannot be that a-moral. It's not like you can ban us for the name and then disregard the same rule when applied to others. Either you follow the rule or you don't.
SoonÖ
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s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2005.11.07 21:35:00 -
[229]
Edited by: s4mp3r0r on 07/11/2005 21:36:26
Originally by: Yuzier OA
Band of brothers, ISS, Oracle Corp and many other names currently residing in in EVE has real world counterparts.
Even CCP has problems in that field, because many of their own coprnames are derived or can be found in the real world look at this
Amarr
or this
Caldari
The list goes on
Pator
hehe hope CCP has a copyright
CCP
Never knew these guys also made software, they are smart
Concord
Pirate orgs, make rl money
Serpentis
And finally " Mordus legion" google it and you if your good at french you will find, that it was part of the French legion figthing in the Sahara, they where accused of warcrimes and crimes against humanity, but hey this is only a game right CCP
LOL, I did the same in the general discussion thread. You found the same ones I did :D
here
CCP gets owned so hard it almost makes ME cry...
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Convo me ingame for details on how to join, and a free " I ♥ mirel yirrin Ö" Bumpersticker!! |
Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.11.07 21:38:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Kuolematon
Well I love that you can strike back those ebil pie-rats by this way. Petitioning their name or corp name is very nice way to cause serious harm to 'em. Bwahahahah!
Originally by: Kuolematon
There goes my idea about petitioning stupid corps for their name as kieron said its griefing now :(
Damn BoB can keep their names now
Its players like you that are the reason the term "Exploit" exists. If you seriously have no personal/moral problems with the statements of yours I quoted above, then you not only have no respect for this game and the effort players put into it, but you also have no respect for the concept's of honor and fairplay.
This thread contains opinions from nearly every "side" of Eve, if all you can see here is an opportunity to hurt your ingame enemies...
I deeply pity you.
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RatBoy Deblade
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Posted - 2005.11.07 21:43:00 -
[231]
I think this is just to fracking stupid.
Smells like communist-**** all the way!
We better start protesting now instead of sitting this out. I think some npc-names are very dubios and started a petition for one of them.
If the want to change names for ¦corpnames like S.A.S they should change there npc-corp for naming themselfes after drugs or names associated with drugs since i find that too offensive.
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Agama
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Posted - 2005.11.07 21:46:00 -
[232]
This is crap plain and simple. Infact...its like the same crap Anzac Alliance copped (to a different degree) because some mod/gm thought it was offensive that we wanted to do an event to mark the passing of the last "ANZAC" here in Oz.
Changing a long standing corp name is just nuts.
'Death solves all problems- no man, no problem' J.V. Stalin, 1918
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.11.07 22:08:00 -
[233]
Oh and KIA should get banned as well then ?
I mean many people can be offended at that name as it means irl Killed In Action , it might be soem EvE Players have lost close friends or family who got KIA .
Oh and EvE itselves comes from a movie as well and so on ....
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You can suck my battleship.
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.07 22:15:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Balazs Simon
OMG, this is BS...
Are we in danger ? HUN is the direct representation of our our country...
And damn... my char name is my real life name alos... and I exist in RL, and it can directly be linked to me ... omg, will my name changed to EVEplayer1111eleven!!111 ?
or WTF..
No Balu, your RL name will have to be changed!
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2005.11.07 22:41:00 -
[235]
"Playboy Enterprises", "Asguard Security Service", "Pantera technologies", "CyberDyne Industries", "Enigma Inc", "KR0M", "BINFORD economics", and "The Babylon5 Consortuim" are in violation of one copyright or another, and "CCCP INC", "Communist Vikings", "ROMANIA Renegades", "Capitalist BloodSuckers Inc" and "People's Front Of Judea" all violate at least one part of the non-political provisions. Please change them immediately.
Sorry, not immediately. First, you should go change all of the copyright violations YOU YOURSELVES HAVE COMMITTED.
It really upsets me when these "rules" are enforced in such a biased fashion.
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.07 22:45:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Cookie
Why don't we petition the hell out of each other till everybody just wears a name with a number,
then we all meet up for the final battle .. like .. even vs odd numbers or so.
Best idea ever? :o
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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zincol
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Posted - 2005.11.07 22:46:00 -
[237]
a list of over 50 corps have been sent to ccp and more r still going in apparently.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2005.11.07 22:48:00 -
[238]
Originally by: Deathwing
Edited by: Deathwing on 07/11/2005 06:03:43
"Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups"
InterBus - http://www.interbus.co.nz/
http://www.interbusonline.com/
http://www.interbus.com.pl/
ORE - http://www.ore.com/
http://www.ore-inc.com/
http://www.oreresearch.com.au/main.htm
Echelon Entertainment - http://www.echelonent.com/
Mercantile Club - http://www.mercantile-club.com/
Senate and Supreme Court Corporations in the Gallente Federation, im sure we are all aware that many countries have in their governmental body a "Senate" and a "Supreme Court" so that to would also be emulating a real-world group
If CCP wants to play on semantics, i can spend more then 5 minutes scrolling thru CCP created NPC corp names and googling stuff and finding references to rl groups and organizations
in closing
give them their names back
sit down
and stfu
OMFG CCP Can you say PWND, you better change all thos crop names b4 the GM's change them to Caldari NPC Corp 00125
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Dark Big
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Posted - 2005.11.07 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Hanns
Originally by: Deathwing
Edited by: Deathwing on 07/11/2005 06:03:43
"Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups"
InterBus - http://www.interbus.co.nz/
http://www.interbusonline.com/
http://www.interbus.com.pl/
ORE - http://www.ore.com/
http://www.ore-inc.com/
http://www.oreresearch.com.au/main.htm
Echelon Entertainment - http://www.echelonent.com/
Mercantile Club - http://www.mercantile-club.com/
Senate and Supreme Court Corporations in the Gallente Federation, im sure we are all aware that many countries have in their governmental body a "Senate" and a "Supreme Court" so that to would also be emulating a real-world group
If CCP wants to play on semantics, i can spend more then 5 minutes scrolling thru CCP created NPC corp names and googling stuff and finding references to rl groups and organizations
in closing
give them their names back
sit down
and stfu
OMFG CCP Can you say PWND, you better change all thos crop names b4 the GM's change them to Caldari NPC Corp 00125
powned!!
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Crzycnck2
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Posted - 2005.11.07 23:28:00 -
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I can understand if a corp name was derogatory to a group ie woman bashing or against Christians or something like that. But S.A.S and 4S, come on that is a little much. I was going to start a corp called the Red Devils, guess that would have been changed on me due to the WWII reference.
CCP has to take a lighter view on these things. If you really wanted to you could take any Corp name in EVE and find a RL reference somewhere. People name their corps after things they are either passionate about or just really think the name is cool for the most part. The ones that want to be idiots fair enough change the name, otherwiseà GIVE THE NAMES BACK ALREADY!!
Battle Angels Gather,
They Warp In,
Guns Engage,
Ships Die.
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.11.07 23:33:00 -
[241]
Edited by: Dao 2 on 07/11/2005 23:36:30
Originally by: Baun
Edited by: Baun on 07/11/2005 05:16:06
Sigh, this is stupid and disrespectful.
GMs, Devs or anyone else should not act capriciously and treat their customers with no respect. If there are real reasons that names need to be changed than the people who run this game need to publically state them and give the community a chance to have input on them before they start altering people's corp names willy nilly.
(and yes, even if the rules have been there, for the case of S.A.S, not 4S, because they haven't been enforced in 2.5 years, the GMs cannot just act on them at random)
heh ;p i wanna see the majority of the gms act respectfully ;ppppp
edit: probably a new way to **** us off and get 'revenge' for ppl whining on the forums.
yeah and bout that guy ccp naming corps ;p wow u got owned so bad ;pppppppppp
seriously :| u dont see us trying to get those companies/whatever trying to sue u/remove those names. Why us?
Follow ur own rules and take ur own advice plz
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Hobblin I
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Posted - 2005.11.07 23:41:00 -
[242]
SAS and 4s names should be reinstated.
The people should however not petition names like Al Qaeda 'r' us. Allow one, allow 'em all.
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2005.11.07 23:54:00 -
[243]
There are SO many corpnames that need to be changed if this is going to stand, but somehow I doubt that changing ALL the names will make this problem get better... CCP has dug itself into a very deep hole on this one
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Zarthanon
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Posted - 2005.11.08 00:31:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Trey Azagthoth
There are SO many corpnames that need to be changed if this is going to stand, but somehow I doubt that changing ALL the names will make this problem get better... CCP has dug itself into a very deep hole on this one
Agreed... I didn't know you could dig with a bat... but I guess they have found out... I can also get them a bigger shovel.
Originally by: ParMizaN
i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk
Originally by: Buddrow
TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.11.08 00:36:00 -
[245]
If you really dont get any help from CCP , teh write a nice story about to sned to a paper or gaming mag etc , you catch my drift , it ups th epressure and al that .
Fight fire with fire .
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Anna Sofia
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Posted - 2005.11.08 00:47:00 -
[246]
Edited by: Anna Sofia on 08/11/2005 00:47:44
Originally by: The Clash
If you really dont get any help from CCP , teh write a nice story about to sned to a paper or gaming mag etc , you catch my drift , it ups th epressure and al that .
Fight fire with fire .
Actually.. I think that is a lousy idea. It's only been a couple of days since this really started, and EVE is the first game i've played where the devs actually greatly involve themselves on the forums.
I think we'll soon see a change in the naming policy to make it a bit clearer what is allowed and what is ffrowned upon.
Personally I'm far more bothered about names like C4ptn h4xx0rs and other l33t names, but I'd probably never petiotion any of them (unless somebody makes a char named "<real name> suck donkey balls" or somthing like that)
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.11.08 01:01:00 -
[247]
Edited by: The Clash on 08/11/2005 01:02:18
Originally by: Anna Sofia
Edited by: Anna Sofia on 08/11/2005 00:47:44
Originally by: The Clash
If you really dont get any help from CCP , teh write a nice story about to sned to a paper or gaming mag etc , you catch my drift , it ups th epressure and al that .
Fight fire with fire .
Actually.. I think that is a lousy idea. It's only been a couple of days since this really started, and EVE is the first game i've played where the devs actually greatly involve themselves on the forums.
I think we'll soon see a change in the naming policy to make it a bit clearer what is allowed and what is ffrowned upon.
Personally I'm far more bothered about names like C4ptn h4xx0rs and other l33t names, but I'd probably never petiotion any of them (unless somebody makes a char named "<real name> suck donkey balls" or somthing like that)
Its not , if you want to use teh so called power you have , use it !
ATM its gettin really out of bounds believe me and many others in here and i dont mean to discredit you at all .
ATM it seems and yes i might ex a bit but Mods seem to ad "SUPERPOWER" to themselves , if they wanna act like that many and i mean many many char. names or corpnames should have changed already .
EvE is going to hell like this , orelse it seemse we have power hungry admins in here .
Anyways i would like to see a begging come back from them , thank god i ended my activity perm . now , seems im just on time to leave a Hitl.er controlled online game .!
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Tolin Dorden
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Posted - 2005.11.08 01:07:00 -
[248]
I just spent a load of time writing a comment to this... but realized I better just censor it myself and remove it before some GM decides to do it for me (if they actually bother bout this thread anyways).
I've always been standing up for you guys, when server crashed or anything else went haywire, but CCP this time you stepped over the line. This is just pure stupidity. I hope the responsible person gets a serious reprimand, and that S.A.S. and 4S will get their name reinstated asap (oh wait that might also be an acronym for something bad.. strike that)
Someone really better get their act together soon before this turns out even more ridiculous than it already is. If I wanted to go see clowns mess up, I'd go see a circus.
(rest of this is self censored before someone with a serious powertrip does it for me)
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The Hooch
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Posted - 2005.11.08 01:10:00 -
[249]
Originally by: KSUDruid
1st! And Agreed!
Damn I hate when we agree, indeed please take the "PC" crap elsewhere. This is fantasy for crying out loud, grow up people and get some hide, the real world is a far more nasty place, this is a game. GEEEEISSSHHH!
Hooch
Peace:
A time for powers to cheat between fighting
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Foyle
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Posted - 2005.11.08 01:27:00 -
[250]
Edited by: Foyle on 08/11/2005 01:32:05
There is no copyright infringement on ôfakeö characters and/or Corporations.
None of these corporations are ôIncorporatedö (Inc.) are they? No license to have a corporation? Or tax ID numbers as required by law to have said corporation?
So where is the copy right infringement taking place here? In a name?
Impossible, no more then naming my dog ôcoca colaö ôBaileysö ôPepsiö or ôFullersö
CCP needs to reinstate their names, ADMIT they made an honest mistake.
Of course they will not wish to make any further comments on it and lock all threads pertaining to it - but at least give these ôcorporationsö back their names that they worked damn hard on creating and earning a reputation with.
As one person said it earlier on, give me ôgoogleö for 5 minutes, I can create a copyright for EVERYTHING in eve.
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Hot Karl
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Posted - 2005.11.08 01:35:00 -
[251]
why oh why is this naming policy not enforced in a uniform fashion
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Marko Debreault
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Posted - 2005.11.08 01:40:00 -
[252]
Give 4S and SAS their names back.
Whoever is responsible for this has displayed very bad judgement.
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Oisin
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Posted - 2005.11.08 02:12:00 -
[253]
OK I better fess up first off, I petitioned a corp name (not one mentioned in this thread) about 6 months ago. Now I wish I hadn't. Not because of any change in RL opinions towards what the name represents, but because maybe what I did helped open up a can of worms that should have been left alone.
Not long after that, a guy in the alliance I was in at the time had his name petitioned and became Caldari Citizen xyz. If you didn't know him you might think his name was anti-American (the excuse CCP gave iirc), but the guy is from the US and just doesn't like the New York Yankees baseball team.
The problem is deciding where to draw the line, and that's going to be in different places for different people. In my opinion, it's too late to change the name of a corp that has been around as long as SAS. Might as well change the names of star systems. 0SHT-A anyone?
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Tadis
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Posted - 2005.11.08 02:20:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Oisin
Not long after that, a guy in the alliance I was in at the time had his name petitioned and became Caldari Citizen xyz.
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Yankee Killer?
Yeknow the GM's are just trying to save us from all these sticks and stones that are really taking their toll nowadays....
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The Hooch
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Posted - 2005.11.08 02:30:00 -
[255]
R/P on
I am offened by the name BoB, it is a slap in the face of all men and women who bear that name.
The name should be:
"Grand Alliance of Noobs, Killers, Egotistic, Ratfinks, Sneaks"
"GANKERS"
R/P off
Just a bit of humor Guys'n Gals of BoB
Cheers
Hooch, bringer of laughs and good times to Eve and BoB, the alliance everyone loves to hate
Peace: A time for powers to cheat between fighting
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.11.08 02:36:00 -
[256]
The odds of them getting their names back is quite slim from my experience. Having been part of the TPAR-G ****up and the JV1V fiasco, its pretty clear to me that CCP is loath to go against their GM's even when they know (and in private admit) that they made poor decisions.
So, unless they changed how they do things, it's gonna take a lot of backlash to get them to backtrack.
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ACIX REBORN
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Posted - 2005.11.08 02:43:00 -
[257]
S******DLY FTW, heheeheh our name is I think one of the few that can't even be mentioned easily on the forums. But good thing it actually means absolutly nothing. Just an oddball collection of letters. |
PAPA
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Posted - 2005.11.08 02:45:00 -
[258]
Its a sad day when pc creeps into games SAS could stand for anything.
CCP..... The following is an abridged and slightly changed translation of chapter two of my M.A. thesis on Otto Braun's early activities in China.1 The study of CCP-history in the 1930's still shows serious deficiencies, and one of them concerns the role of the CCP in the Fujian rebellion. This article sets out to provide new insights into some problems, historical and historiographical, connected with this event, but should also be seen as a starting point for further studies, which are surely necessary.
The article begins with a short introduction to the background and then presents some information on Chinese Communist historiography of the rebellion. Additionally two important accounts by Otto Braun and the Russian A. G. Krymov are being summarized. Thereafter I will examine three problems more closely: the political co-operation between the CCP and the Fujian rebels, the military co-operation between them, and CCP-internal discussions at that time.
Taken from http://litten.de/fulltext/fujian1.htm
Good luck with the new name ccp....We make games 008
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PAPA
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Posted - 2005.11.08 02:48:00 -
[259]
Edited by: PAPA on 08/11/2005 02:48:23
dp
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Foyle
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Posted - 2005.11.08 02:50:00 -
[260]
Originally by: ACIX REBORN
S******DLY FTW, heheeheh our name is I think one of the few that can't even be mentioned easily on the forums. But good thing it actually means absolutly nothing. Just an oddball collection of letters.
ummmm, why the heck is your corp name filtered?
Just when you thought you saw it all
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PAPA
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Posted - 2005.11.08 02:52:00 -
[261]
Foyle long time no see, how u bin
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ACIX REBORN
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Posted - 2005.11.08 03:02:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Foyle
Originally by: ACIX REBORN
S******DLY FTW, heheeheh our name is I think one of the few that can't even be mentioned easily on the forums. But good thing it actually means absolutly nothing. Just an oddball collection of letters.
ummmm, why the heck is your corp name filtered?
Just when you thought you saw it all
if you went by that rule nearly all of the names on the entire game have some part of their name that could be taken out and be an offensive word.
remember most 4 and 3 letter words are parts of many larger words.
on a side note i had about 3 corp names petitioned i started with an alt. But they were really pointed and made just to be funny. I just took a few corp names of the people we were fighting a lot at the time X and added "eats poo". It was pretty funny, most people got the joke but they always got petitioned and changed to corp bla bla. It was pretty funny. |
PirateSpy
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Posted - 2005.11.08 03:14:00 -
[263]
To make it fair all corporations should be renamed to Caldari Corp 001, 002, 003, Gallente Corp 001, 002 etc. That would be fair and very exiting for EVE. I have to say though, that I will petition if we get to Caldari Corporation 1984. I find the book "1984" very scary and intimidating. Caldari Corporation 2001 will not work for me either, cause of the movie "2001". Hmmm well I guess thats wrong way too. We should take away all corps. That wouldn¦t intimidate anyone and all of us would play and be happy forever. :)
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Kahn Moquil
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Posted - 2005.11.08 03:37:00 -
[264]
Edited by: Kahn Moquil on 08/11/2005 03:37:16
Originally by: Mitchman
This thread is hilarious in a tragic kind of way
Is there some RL cult somewhere?
CoC is a g.a.y. (edit: see, you should be banz0red) rights organization in The Netherlands
But seriously, all of this is utter BS. I think this is the first thread in Corporation, Alliance And Organization I've seen where 99% of the players are in agreement. That's got to count for something.
And Oveur making vague threats such as 'be carefull what you wish for', is just another example of how badly CCP is handling this. Ofcourse you're going to get corp names with references to RL things. This may come as a shock to you, but we're not actually Minmatar, Gallente, Caldari or Amarr. We're all just normal human beings, playing a computer game. All our names are in some way or another inspired by RL things, because that's simply the biggest reference we have.
Please, follow through on your policy, and force 95% of players, corps and alliances to change their name. Might as well take away the option to pick your own name at all, and create some kind of name generator, so we all go about with a name that fits with the backstory of EvE.
Anyway, have fun with your 'internal discussion', and good luck coming up with a solution that doesn't make you look like fools. Oh, and while you're at it, can please change the name of the Typhoon? I've heard they make a lot of victims in RL.
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Mollari Cotto
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Posted - 2005.11.08 04:21:00 -
[265]
If you don't like what has been done, Be in Rens tomorrow at 18:00 eve time until ?
If you don't want to take your main, make an alt. Pack drones and bookmarks.
No shooty shooty from anybody, lets all come together on this one and get those Concord Scumm.
See yas in local
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A'tarius
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Posted - 2005.11.08 04:31:00 -
[266]
Dear CCP and GMs,
While onlining the Ship Maint. Array at my pos, after 6s, and 5s, came 4s, and I'm deeply offended by this. THis needs to be change RIGHT NOW, or the balance of the game might be threatened. Oh and to the Forum fella that, in the last thread on 4s said, "GM actions are not discussed or questioned" Oh yeah? Why not? It was stupid, and ridiculous. So we are questioning it, and coming together friends and enemies. WHATS GOING ON!? Your GMs apparently need drug checks.
Signed.
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Zarthanon
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Posted - 2005.11.08 05:04:00 -
[267]
Originally by: A'tarius
Dear CCP and GMs,
While onlining the Ship Maint. Array at my pos, after 6s, and 5s, came 4s, and I'm deeply offended by this. THis needs to be change RIGHT NOW, or the balance of the game might be threatened. Oh and to the Forum fella that, in the last thread on 4s said, "GM actions are not discussed or questioned" Oh yeah? Why not? It was stupid, and ridiculous. So we are questioning it, and coming together friends and enemies. WHATS GOING ON!? Your GMs apparently need drug checks.
Signed.
LOL at A'Tarius... anyways, that's how I was trying to state my post in the first place... as a question and not discussing the GM's actions directly--I left that to you all :P
Originally by: ParMizaN
i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk
Originally by: Buddrow
TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO
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Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2005.11.08 07:01:00 -
[268]
Originally by: Kahn Moquil
And Oveur making vague threats such as 'be carefull what you wish for', is just another example of how badly CCP is handling this.
Did he post that somewhere? Link?
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.11.08 07:27:00 -
[269]
Originally by: Caybn E'vangel
Its players like you that are the reason the term "Exploit" exists. If you seriously have no personal/moral problems with the statements of yours I quoted above, then you not only have no respect for this game and the effort players put into it, but you also have no respect for the concept's of honor and fairplay.
This thread contains opinions from nearly every "side" of Eve, if all you can see here is an opportunity to hurt your ingame enemies...
I deeply pity you.
Ooo, someone bite a big one! First of all if you call me exploiter because of this and then yell I hurt community. Have you EVER considered that killing people ingame *MIGHT* also hurt community? Next time you blob someone or gategank/snipe someone ask him if he enjoyed his 5sec of "Fun PvP experience".
Don't you come in and call me community destroyer and exploiter when you do exact same thing ingame. Only real difference is that you do harm to community and I don't.
.. and I tought BNC was respectable corporation but letting their people yell stuff like this .. dishonorable
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Ronald Speirs
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Posted - 2005.11.08 07:27:00 -
[270]
OMG i am sooooo screwed...
/me runs for cover before he becomes caldari citizen 0021243
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.11.08 07:35:00 -
[271]
Morning...not to bother reading last several pages cause we mostly all agree about this. Just wanted to ask if there was any official respond regarding this?
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Posted - 2005.11.08 07:49:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Kuolematon
Ooo, someone bite a big one! First of all if you call me exploiter because of this and then yell I hurt community. Have you EVER considered that killing people ingame *MIGHT* also hurt community? Next time you blob someone or gategank/snipe someone ask him if he enjoyed his 5sec of "Fun PvP experience".
Don't you come in and call me community destroyer and exploiter when you do exact same thing ingame. Only real difference is that you do harm to community and I don't.
.. and I tought BNC was respectable corporation but letting their people yell stuff like this .. dishonorable
How can you seriously compare me pvping in a pvp game to you thinking petitioning a corp for no reason is a cool and effective weapon to do "serious harm" to your enemies?
And no, BNC does not stop me from voicing my opinion, and I attempt to conduct myself in a very professional manner on these forums. But I find your idea of "Petition Warfare" completely disgusting, and I responded accordingly. Good night.
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Kahn Moquil
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Posted - 2005.11.08 08:50:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Gerome Doutrande
Originally by: Kahn Moquil
And Oveur making vague threats such as 'be carefull what you wish for', is just another example of how badly CCP is handling this.
Did he post that somewhere? Link?
Meh, it wasn't Oveur that posted that, it was Kieron. That's what you get for posting late at night. He posted that in a thread in General Discussion, someone quoted it on page 8 of this thread.
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Rick Dentill
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Posted - 2005.11.08 08:50:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Malken
Originally by: Muthsera
RL link to military organisation.
that would mean that "Band of Brothers" alliance would be in violation of the rule also as it is a registered trademark anme for a TV show.
when will the GM madness end ?
if you are going to do them then do them all or do none.
that is assuming they are not refering to shakespeare
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KALZUL
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Posted - 2005.11.08 09:09:00 -
[275]
Originally by: ChefAce
I demand CCP chang the ISD name to something else for their crimes against the public.
70,000 people can attest to the fact that they have mamed, mutalated and slaughtered hundreds if not thousands of poor innocent posts.
It's offensive!
I also demand that CCP Change it's name for their war crimes consisting of nerfing, unbalancing and false advertising of our beloved game.
It's offensive!
Get to work!
err..pwned!!
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Harrier
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Posted - 2005.11.08 09:11:00 -
[276]
Originally by: zincol
a list of over 50 corps have been sent to ccp and more r still going in apparently.
hmm soo this what ccp do...when at work..how about somthing usful like fixing bugs..
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.11.08 09:22:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Harrier
Originally by: zincol
a list of over 50 corps have been sent to ccp and more r still going in apparently.
hmm soo this what ccp do...when at work..how about somthing usful like fixing bugs..
Nah..they are currently in the phylosophical mood, not technical
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.11.08 09:24:00 -
[278]
Originally by: Kuolematon
Ooo, someone bite a big one! First of all if you call me exploiter because of this and then yell I hurt community. Have you EVER considered that killing people ingame *MIGHT* also hurt community? Next time you blob someone or gategank/snipe someone ask him if he enjoyed his 5sec of "Fun PvP experience".
Don't you come in and call me community destroyer and exploiter when you do exact same thing ingame. Only real difference is that you do harm to community and I don't.
.. and I tought BNC was respectable corporation but letting their people yell stuff like this .. dishonorable
You're a fool if you think threatening to grief someone by petitioning their name and in game pvp are comparable.
The fact that you are spitting your dummy out like a spoilt child and a BNC pilot pulled you up for it certainly does not reflect badly on the honour of our corporation. On the contrary it just makes you look silly.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Love Ya
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Posted - 2005.11.08 09:37:00 -
[279]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Kuolematon
Ooo, someone bite a big one! First of all if you call me exploiter because of this and then yell I hurt community. Have you EVER considered that killing people ingame *MIGHT* also hurt community? Next time you blob someone or gategank/snipe someone ask him if he enjoyed his 5sec of "Fun PvP experience".
Don't you come in and call me community destroyer and exploiter when you do exact same thing ingame. Only real difference is that you do harm to community and I don't.
.. and I tought BNC was respectable corporation but letting their people yell stuff like this .. dishonorable
You're a fool if you think threatening to grief someone by petitioning their name and in game pvp are comparable.
The fact that you are spitting your dummy out like a spoilt child and a BNC pilot pulled you up for it certainly does not reflect badly on the honour of our corporation. On the contrary it just makes you look silly.
"What Blacklight said"
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.11.08 15:05:00 -
[280]
So S.A.S is called S.A.S again, but 4S is still a random numbercorp.
WT-*******-G CCP!
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Calisto Lockhart
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Posted - 2005.11.08 15:20:00 -
[281]
Edited by: Calisto Lockhart on 08/11/2005 15:21:28
Edited by: Calisto Lockhart on 08/11/2005 15:20:49
1. we demand an official non bully response to this situation.
2. you cannot have a rule for one person/corp and another rule for another person/corp
3. and petition warfare 4tl, If i had a issue with a corp say BOB for being "big ganking smack tards". I would ethier try and fight them or more likly sit in a station somewhere scowling.
(the above comment with regards to BOB is merly an example, i have no real issue with BOB)
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s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2005.11.08 15:21:00 -
[282]
owned....
So we wait till the change 4S back.
Or still rename all the npc corps.
Oveur locked the other thread because the truth was out there so shouldn't be too long before they post the pulbic apology or refund 4S their domain hosting costs for the past 2.5 years.
BTW the name CCP is also offensive.
Proud CEO of the I have a mirel yirrin corpse and do freaky things to it club.
Convo me ingame for details on how to join, and a free " I ♥ mirel yirrin Ö" Bumpersticker!! |
Temi
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Posted - 2005.11.08 16:11:00 -
[283]
Favorism FTW!
Spelling errors ahoy.. |
zincol
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Posted - 2005.11.08 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: dabster
So S.A.S is called S.A.S again, but 4S is still a random numbercorp.
WT-*******-G CCP!
guess that'll teach 4s and xanadu to petition SAS corp name
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2005.11.08 16:17:00 -
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Hello Everyone.
As you could tell, this thread stayed in place relatively intact. The time has come to cease this discussion, as an official reply has been rendered by Kieron the Community Manager in the form of a DevBlog. You can visit the blog here, and please read the blog before opening new topics on this subject.
Thanks!
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Edited, Forgot the Click.
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