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Armor Jack	Posted - 2005.11.07 09:31:00 - [1] i think it probably would be played. _________________________________________________ The only real Caldarian is born a Caldarian, dawg...
Nyphur	Posted - 2005.11.07 09:38:00 - [2] London.
infused	Posted - 2005.11.07 09:39:00 - [3] Edited by: infused on 07/11/2005 09:39:09 abandonwarez
Armor Jack	Posted - 2005.11.07 09:40:00 - [4] Originally by: Nyphur London. ok, how do you think eve will be in 10 years* _________________________________________________ The only real Caldarian is born a Caldarian, dawg...
Sentani	Posted - 2005.11.07 09:44:00 - [5] think oveur and tomb is gona walk around with their nerf-canes and talk about what to do next... ____________ The cargo bay is overloaded and cannot be made to fit Expanded Cargohold I. It is currently only capable of fitting 8772.12 units and it is currently jammed full with 9558.33 units.
Nyphur	Posted - 2005.11.07 09:45:00 - [6] Originally by: Armor Jack Originally by: Nyphur London. ok, how do you think eve will be in 10 years* Knowing london, probably rainy.
HippoKing	Posted - 2005.11.07 09:57:00 - [7] Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: Armor Jack Originally by: Nyphur London. ok, how do you think eve will be in 10 years* Knowing london, probably rainy. make me a sig! Now 75mil of prizes! ends at midnight on tuesday morning This Zig. For great justice!
Ralitge boyter	Posted - 2005.11.07 10:04:00 - [8] I think we are looking a a slow death for EVE. The way it is going only the super rich ingam get the nice stuff and decent ship can not be constructed without a few million at least slap on a few T2 items and there you go passing the 100M mark quite quickly even for a cruiser. The content that is comming out costs more and more and is only in limited supply yet it will own all other stuff out there. The next tech levels (CCP has plans to some day go to tech level 7 ) will make noobs even less likely to be able to do you any harm will make for even longer trainig times and will in the end make starting this game a mather of buying a char (with real cash and risking to be banned) or playing a game with only one tenth of the content available to you. CCP is moving more and more to worths a game where the elite (read the longest subscribers) are the once that have stand a fighting chance and the rest is just filling in their world. I am sorry to say that it looks like CCP has been focusing to much on the making things bigger and thus more expansive and less on making more intresting things out there for the starting player. Starting a new account now means you will sit there training "basic" skills for at least a few months before you are able to fly a decent ship with average weapons. Most content you will never use because of the sheer time needed to train for it. The next few tech levels the expansion of the mini professions and the training times that will inherently be involved in this will cause the game to die before it reachs it's tenth year. Then again.... CCP has begun pushing players back into frigates more and more is finaly working on making PvP not so much a mather of DPS but more a tactical game. They might be able to turn around the curve they started on as long as they stop the tech level 3 stuff from comming in anytime soon. The way it is looking now they are working towards a way for players to become highly specialized. A freighter pilot will most likely not be able to do research and hacking as well. A gun slinger will not be to skilled in missiles and visa versa. Should they be smart enough to hold of on introducing a whole new range of weapons and or tools this could mean that soon, a noob can sit back knowing that training and specializing in one thing will actualy lead to something and will not just end him/her up on a dead end path because CCP decided that it is time to add a few months worth of training time to their chosen profesion. What I am trying to say is as long as CCP realizes that there is more out there than the 1000b ISK possesing chars who lead a mega corp in a huge alliance, and that players in a lone frigate just wanting to explore space and shoot some roids from time to time (without being foreced into a corp/allicance) are there as well. And maybe even stop with introducing new mandatory skills like tractor beams and other needfull things, we might have a chance of keeping this game intresting for even the casual players. ------------------------------------------- Should you disagree with me, well I guess that is because I disagree with you. If you have a problem with that please feel free not to tell me.
Adam C	Posted - 2005.11.07 10:18:00 - [9] in 10yrs eve will be on my 1000" plasma
Akirium	Posted - 2005.11.07 10:21:00 - [10] eve will be merged with e-b-a-y and the uber richy rich of the mmo world will rule its item sales to the macro mining corps in china

mrg29	Posted - 2005.11.07 10:22:00 - [11] Originally by: Ralitge boyter Starting a new account now means you will sit there training "basic" skills for at least a few months before you are able to fly a decent ship with average weapons. always makes me laugh when i aee anyone include a line like this in any whine about new content. why is this any different from 6 months ago or a year ago or 2 years ago. every single person who plays this game faced this, its not something that has just been introduced. if u opened your eyes u would see that the game is evolving at all levels. of course there is going to be more high end content as there are alot of people in the game looking for new challenges and new targets and the game has to cater for these people too. every time someone makes an idiotic comment like the one u just did there are a raft of examples people can give showing how much EASIER and BETTER it is for players starting now than it has ever been. the only one i will bother using is, when i first started there were frigs, cruisers, indies and BS. no other class of ship at all. making money was harder so that gap between cruiser and BS was huge. did it stop me playing, did it stop me aiming for getting into that BS, did it stop me enjoying the game. no ofc it didn't. every patch CCP add content that affects everyone at every level of the game, if anything there has been more content introduce to help lower skill point players this year than anything else. the next patch with what is being done with MK2 will actually make things better for newer players again as it will add alot of variety to tech1 frigs and cruisers meaning u can have a degree of flexibility and specialisation with no need to train for tech2 ships. if eve is gonna be around in 10 years time it has to grow at all lvls not just at the bottom as keeping the vets happy and interested is as important as attracting new players, if not more so as the vets have already proved they are willing to commit to the game long term.
Siren Shiva	Posted - 2005.11.07 10:47:00 - [12] Not to be an evil pessimist, but I dont think Eve will still be around in 10 years. Maybe for a very small niche group of hardcore fans. In 10 years, gaming technology will be so advanced (virtual reality, anyone?) that Eve would need to be completely re-done to catch the interest of players. They'll be hanging out in all those fancy games which give them the 'oooh' and 'aaah' effects. Inappropriate signature graphic removed -Zhuge
Sirilonwe	Posted - 2005.11.07 10:57:00 - [13] Originally by: Armor Jack ok, how do you think eve will be in 10 years* Easy, we'll be flying in OMGWTFPWNROXOR titans on planets surface with guns that do 1 dps to every ship. Frigates will hit the 2000ms (with no fit) and will insta kills BS. Cruisers class will be deleted. Instead we'll have: - cookie giver ship (for whiners) - AutoNerf Bat ship (this will spawn a robot GM, which will analyze the situation and decide to nerf to hell all ships cause one little thing seems to be over powered). Oh and I forgot to talk about 2000km range missiles. That doesn't do damage. _______________________ Forums DSU
SengH	Posted - 2005.11.07 11:03:00 - [14] actually if you read e-on after titans their scaling downwards... However 10 years is a long time in the tech world. 10 years ago.. 386s were the fastest thing available. We might be onto optical circuits by that time... 3d displays will probably be common and eve will have to adapt to that... although it would be really wierd.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.11.07 11:04:00 - [15] Originally by: mrg29 Originally by: Ralitge boyter Starting a new account now means you will sit there training "basic" skills for at least a few months before you are able to fly a decent ship with average weapons. always makes me laugh when i aee anyone include a line like this in any whine about new content. why is this any different from 6 months ago or a year ago or 2 years ago. Theres a slight diffrence between 10 and 2 years, 10 years from now we will hopefully we at tl5 Of course, newbies will prolly start with 10 mill sp and a t3 velator by then ------------------ [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
mrg29	Posted - 2005.11.07 11:37:00 - [16] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: mrg29 Originally by: Ralitge boyter Starting a new account now means you will sit there training "basic" skills for at least a few months before you are able to fly a decent ship with average weapons. always makes me laugh when i aee anyone include a line like this in any whine about new content. why is this any different from 6 months ago or a year ago or 2 years ago. Theres a slight diffrence between 10 and 2 years, 10 years from now we will hopefully we at tl5 Of course, newbies will prolly start with 10 mill sp and a t3 velator by then and they will still whine
Zeromancer	Posted - 2005.11.07 11:43:00 - [17] In 10 years there will be no Eve. My guess is that this game will be closed in less than 5 years.
Braaage	Posted - 2005.11.07 11:45:00 - [18] Bought by EA hides ___________________________________________ http://www.eve-tutor.com Picture based tutorial site for EVE-Online
Marcus Aurelius	Posted - 2005.11.07 11:48:00 - [19] dead, abandoned, gone. 10 years, no MMO lasts that long these days, except for the giants of the genre. Eve is far from a giant.
Chode Rizoum	Posted - 2005.11.07 11:49:00 - [20] Eve: 2 O_o i certainly hope in 10 years... Teddycorp signature... By myal terego www.evepirates.com/ http://www.tundragon.com/ killboard

Lord WarATron	Posted - 2005.11.07 11:54:00 - [21] Realistically, What will happen with t3 items and above, is that the requirements drop for items that are a tech level below. Thus, a player joining 10 years from now does not have a 2 year waiting queue to use a t3 Battleship etc etc --- Order Now! Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble' Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour Msg me - 500mil - 7 day backlog
Akirium	Posted - 2005.11.07 11:55:00 - [22] eve will be reduced to a package containing nerf balls with ship names on them and a bat with the CCP logo on it
Ilmonstre	Posted - 2005.11.07 11:55:00 - [23] Originally by: Chode Rizoum Eve: 2 O_o i certainly hope in 10 years... and thats the first awnser i have seen wich could be one that will happen or atleast i will hope so aswel.
Khabok	Posted - 2005.11.07 12:05:00 - [24] I honestly see EVE continuing a lot longer than some of the other MMOs that have about the same subscription-base size. EVE has a pretty hardcore following, and, from what I've seen, that number has only been increasing over time. As more and more people become sick of the super-easy cartoonish MMOs that are out there now, they'll start to look for something that makes you think a little. (trust me, I got a warrior and a hunter in WoW to 60 in a blink of an eye, and both had an I WIN! button...no thought involved at all, not even in PvP) With CCP being an offshore corp with no real competitors at this point and offering a niche product with a relatively loyal following, I see them continuing as long as they are profitable. And if their numbers keep slowly increasing, that'll be for a long, long time. The only real danger to EVE Online that I see is if another futuristic MMO offers a similar level of ship customization, and also offers things like customizable interface, in-cockpit controls, joystick flight, and being able to exit your ship and interact with others on the surface... Well, I'd probably give it a try, at least.. Khabok Amarri Calamari =============================================== Some things in life are worth fighting for... You decide whether they're worth dying for.
Nicholai Pestot	Posted - 2005.11.07 12:09:00 - [25] Originally by: Ilmonstre Originally by: Chode Rizoum Eve: 2 O_o i certainly hope in 10 years... and thats the first awnser i have seen wich could be one that will happen or atleast i will hope so aswel. Aye, set 100 years after the setting of Eve, with the factions,empires and history made up of the events in Eve 1. \0/ -------------------------------------- I have supped the milk of human kindness, and discovered i am lactose intolerant
Dram K'Zor	Posted - 2005.11.07 12:40:00 - [26] A 10 year old piece of software is a nightmare to maintain. Changes take an age because of the unknown side effects that even a small change can have. At some point it is easier to re-write from scratch. And, my guess is, this is what will happen to Eve. Or the "newbies can't catch up" feature will put off new players from joining and Eve will die a slow death as the lack of new money slowly kills it. Hopefully, the devs will spot if this begins to happen and start on Eve 2.
Serpensis	Posted - 2005.11.07 15:37:00 - [27] Edited by: Serpensis on 07/11/2005 15:38:00 Edited by: Serpensis on 07/11/2005 15:37:38 With the current speed of nerfing, we will be driving around on bicycles in 10 years, because the spaceships were too overpowered.... -- "Fear accompanies the possibility of death, calm sheperds its certainty."
HUGO DRAX	Posted - 2005.11.07 15:48:00 - [28] I dont think it will be around, maybe a totally new EvE similar to the way EQ2 is different and requires a new character over EQ1
Istvaan Shogaatsu	Posted - 2005.11.07 15:48:00 - [29] Heh, all you people decrying the fact that new content is geared toward veterans and that new people "can't catch up" are missing one important fact - a smelly newb with a few hundred thousand SP can take down a 20m SP veteran if he equips specifically to face him. By comparison, can your level 15 Night Elf Warlock drop a level 50 Chaos Dwarf Poopweaver or whatever in World of Grindcraft, for example?
Slink Grinsdikild	Posted - 2005.11.07 15:57:00 - [30] EVE will still be here in one form or another. Its a very open ended game, much like UO. Which is what makes it so great. (And UO is nearing its 9th anniversary and still has a loyal fanbase.)

Plutoinum	Posted - 2005.11.07 16:15:00 - [31] Edited by: Plutoinum on 07/11/2005 16:21:47 Originally by: Lord WarATron Realistically, What will happen with t3 items and above, is that the requirements drop for items that are a tech level below. Thus, a player joining 10 years from now does not have a 2 year waiting queue to use a t3 Battleship etc etc I hope that we'll never see a t2 battleship with resistances like hacs. Because every older player and even younger players like me would train for them and before they are out we could fly them, that's for sure. And then we'd kill the poor 2005/2006 chars in their t1 BS. If anyone thinks that this is okay because they are newbies and we have played longer, I think not. edit and it would screw up the whole balance like lvl. 4 missions, npc'ing, guess that's the reason why they are not on (or have been removed from) the list for the next big content patch.
Jon Xylur	Posted - 2005.11.07 16:16:00 - [32] In 10 yeares CCP has released tech 7 Titans that come prefitted with a quantium explosion dynamo, which, when activated, will destroy the Titan, along with the entire galaxy. They will cost about 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Trillion ISK tho, and nobody can afford them....Yet. In fact, even the tech 7 damage controll costs 5 Trillion ISK and only 1 person can buy them, they guy who has the BPO of a cap recharger 6. He/She allso rules the entire game and all other players are his/her slaves. Allso, Caladari don't exist, since tomB accidentally nerfed them into oblivion and nobody bothered to bring them back. Frigates can use dreadnaught guns, need a crapload of skills to train and cost atlest 50mil while BS have no weapons at all, are availebale at the start of the game and cost 2 ISK.
Berasus' Minion	Posted - 2005.11.07 16:30:00 - [33] In 10 years i don't think eve will be here at all. not that it's a bad thing to not expect a game to last another 10 years, most games don't or at least if they do they're down to a extremely small fanbase. It's just hard to make a game last that long since the game industry expects constant improvement, not only in graphics but in ai, physics, character customization etc etc. There are just some modifications that simply can't be patched into an existing engine for various reasons and a complete rewrite is nescessary. If eve is here in 10 years i'd expect it to actualy be eve2, eve's engine rewritten using new technologies.
Skva	Posted - 2005.11.07 16:32:00 - [34] Well I like to think it'll still be around. Though I guess in it's current form it would be highly unlikely. Either the player base will die down, and EVE closes, or I guess an EVE 2 would be made. Obviously with improvments that match that generation of games, and if it did come to that I pray they'll transfer all the characters over. Would suck to lose ten-years worth of sp lol.
Jaabaa Prime	Posted - 2005.11.07 16:50:00 - [35] 10 years is a long, long time in the IT world. Let's try 5. T4 is out. New regions have been added with -10 sec rating and the mega alliances are fighting over them. Jovian character path has been opened by use of boosters. Jovian space is open, but the only way to get there is through the new -10 regions. Alliances will have the ability to really control 0.0 space, maybe even employ NPC fleets that have to be sent somewhere via a tactical interface for defence purposes. You will be able to buy/sell corporate shares and "play the market" with stock. Updated UI with support for data gloves and VR screens. -- Intergalactic Teeth Pullers "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein
hired goon	Posted - 2005.11.07 16:52:00 - [36] In 10 years, CCP will announce a system that will let you set standings to an entire alliance is being looked at. Nothing specific though, just an idea. -omg-
Skva	Posted - 2005.11.07 17:01:00 - [37] Oh, well if we're talking 5 years, not 10... Hmm... We might be looking forward to getting Tier 3 Battleships in the latest patch.
Tsavong Lah	Posted - 2005.11.07 17:47:00 - [38] In ten years...... They'll have nearly fixed all causes of the cap bug Death is the loss of hope, everything else is merely despair.
markol	Posted - 2005.11.07 18:18:00 - [39] At some point, there will need to be eve 2. 10 years is a HUGE timeframe for anything in computer world. 10 years ago, I was happily downloading 640x480 ** on my 14.4 modem and throught I was at the pinacle of the intraweb. Look at the leaps and bounds technology has made since then. I now download 1280x1024 on my cable modem. /me cant wait for 1000" screen and megamodem ** downloads.
Chade Malloy	Posted - 2005.11.07 20:35:00 - [40] Edited by: Chade Malloy on 07/11/2005 20:36:33 Eve in ten years... Ok, lets be optimistic first and take a peek at the year 2015: Most of the bugs in EvE-2 have been ironed out, 40k ppl fly around in the new 20.000 solarsystem-universe every day at all times, the latency is >100ms to everyone even in 500+ fleet battles and the old veterans of Eve-1 where able to port their characters into the new environment, which has ultrarealistc graphics and breathtaking effects (you can see single threads that hold together the minmatar ships if you zoom in). Tranquility server is now at its 3rd generation, (1st generation has been sold to a private investment group formed of former m0o members which run EvE-1 as a freeshard so they can pwn everyone else 24/7, 2nd generation Tranquility has been destroyed in the great London-Earthquake of 2011) CCP games is still in charge of EVE and its developement, and Hellmar always beats Oveur when they do streetracing in their Ferraris. However, there is still noone able to enter Jove Space... The pessimistic view: EA bought CCP. EA is now the only producer of videogames, and everyone is forced to play fifa2015. Now Eve is only a dim memory of former veterans, and lives forth in stories told in the pubs in iceland at rainy nights... I¦m not crazy, i just have another consciousness in my mind!

Brolly	Posted - 2005.11.07 23:00:00 - [41] Ideally... Every aspect of eve will have a use, all those planets, moons, planet rings, faction buildings. You will be able to fly on planets and have coolio dog fights and maybe obliterate your enemies trade good stations, or you could orbit above in your titan 3 and try to annihilate everything on the planet, yey! True orbital items will be achieved thus leading to no more bookmarks. 0.0 space is a thriving place, now more popular than the 'old' empire systems which has become a place for new players. Alliances become larger, almost becomming empires in themselves. Great fleet battles are fought with massive fleets numbering 100's using every possible ship in the game which is now needed. Myriads of new ships which have been custom made by players can be seen almost everywhere with various corp designs upon them. Now most ships are custom made which always adds more challenges to pvp as you never quite know what you'll be up against. Research wise, anything is possible (within a set of parameters), now scientists can do more than research me and pe, now it's a multi million isk profession. And lots of other cool stuff, too tired to go on...and my leg hurts
Dao 2	Posted - 2005.11.07 23:07:00 - [42] i think itll be discontinued by then ;p
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2005.11.07 23:14:00 - [43] I don't know about EVE, but I hope in 10 years I can get out of my pod and walk around!
Skunkaben	Posted - 2005.11.07 23:15:00 - [44] Eve would have died A death long before 10 years are up, people will have got sick of the LAG
Slithereen	Posted - 2005.11.07 23:21:00 - [45] At some point they would need to completely revamp everything. The code is becoming as flaky as Windows. One layer after another, and the game is getting more and more complex, which is bad for user perception, bad for code maintenance. Design distortions that were added in the game to compensate for changes, to respond to player demands, and so on, would also need to be cleaned up. At some point, two server groups have to be run, one for EVE-1, one for EVE-2, until the entire player base migrates over. _______________________________________________ "Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies, "Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. "Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
F'nog	Posted - 2005.11.07 23:28:00 - [46] Originally by: SengH actually if you read e-on after titans their scaling downwards... However 10 years is a long time in the tech world. 10 years ago.. 386s were the fastest thing available. We might be onto optical circuits by that time... 3d displays will probably be common and eve will have to adapt to that... although it would be really wierd. Hmm, I seem to remember owning a 486 twelve years ago. And 10 years ago Win95 was out and tormenting us all. Hard to believe, eh? Sig modified due to xenophobic comments -Iacon
Zac Paris	Posted - 2005.11.07 23:31:00 - [47] Originally by: F'nog And 10 years ago Win95 was out and tormenting us all. Hard to believe, eh? 10 years? Man, it feels like 100 years ago.
Blazde	Posted - 2005.11.08 03:19:00 - [48] Real question is if this thread will still be here in 10 years to confirm our predictions Tbh, they will have to reset at some point, and they'll probably need a complete rewrite in 4-5 years time when the codebase gets really old and ugly. There'll be a 2 year gap while they rewrite, and most of the players won't return. Those that do will hate EVE 2 but a new influx of players will like it, and life will go on _ 4S Forums \| 4S KillList \| 4S IRC
sonofollo	Posted - 2005.11.08 03:37:00 - [49] i thought they were able to rewrite as they go (hence each of the patches we get every couple of months)
Rychek	Posted - 2005.11.09 16:22:00 - [50] I think there is a future for UO, EVE, even muds. Its adapting to technology. Even when there is a much bigger better space mmo out there, who can say no to playing Eve on the go, via a psp or cell phone?

Grimster	Posted - 2005.11.09 16:37:00 - [51] Originally by: Siren Shiva Not to be an evil pessimist, but I dont think Eve will still be around in 10 years. Maybe for a very small niche group of hardcore fans. In 10 years, gaming technology will be so advanced (virtual reality, anyone?) that Eve would need to be completely re-done to catch the interest of players. They'll be hanging out in all those fancy games which give them the 'oooh' and 'aaah' effects. Heh - they said that 10 years ago.


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