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FireFoxx80	Posted - 2005.11.07 14:19:00 - [1] Odds on surviving Level 4 Guristas missions? 16m SP char, all Engineering, Gunnery, Electronics, Missile, Spaceship Command skills to level 4-5. High: 2x Small Beam Laser II 6x Cruise Missile Launcher Medium: 1x Large Shield Booster II 1x Shield Boost Amp 1x Active Thermal Hardener II 1x Active Kinetic Hardener II 1x Cap Recharger Low: 2x PDU 2x BCU 1x Tracking Computer II Drones: Mix of mediums. 23? # Missile Tool # ex: P-TMC : USAC
mimik	Posted - 2005.11.07 14:41:00 - [2] would ditch the tracking comp for another pdu or bcu. low slot tracking enhancer aint that great anyway and when u only got 2 small guns then ur tracking should be ok.
Pusher Bott	Posted - 2005.11.07 15:01:00 - [3] Well, I'm a 6m SP char, and I can do most level 4's without too much trouble. They take a damn long time, though. You'll definitely need to be switching some of those cruise missles to torps for most missions(unless you've got crazy cruise spec skills). I'd also say to dump the tracking computer in favor of another PDU. My loadout (most missions): High: 4x Malkuth Siege 2x Malkuth Assault 2x named dual 150's Mid: 1x XL Named boost (The good one; I can't remember the name) 1x Large Extender II 1x Active Thermal 1x Active Kinetic 1x Cap recharge II Low: 5x PDU II 1x BCS II Drones: 6 heavy drones Some missions have a ton of cruisers/AFs; for those I'll switch the torps for a cruise loadout, and switch to Large Boost II and Boost Amp. Other than that, the only tough missions tend to be the new deadspace missions where you get dropped on top of a spawn. However, I tend to stick with lvl 3 missions. They have less risk for more reward, due to the speed at which you can do them.
Calio	Posted - 2005.11.07 15:03:00 - [4] I would switch out one of the BCU's and the tracking comp for 2 more PDU's (T2 preferably), which will add to your shield & cap + recharge to both. This will make the cap recharger in the mid-slot unnecessary and I would take that out for an AB. Missle boats are best used as a sniping platform (imho) and range is your friend as a sniper. I did OK with this setup before getting my CN raven. The only problem you may have is breaking the tank on the BS's in Duo and the one or two other 1 mil + BS rats you run into once in a while. May have to switch to sieges for those unless you have T2 cruise launchers. "Those people who think they know everything are a real annoyance to those of us who do" (Issac Assimov)
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2005.11.07 15:15:00 - [5] For Lvl3's, I was considering either using an AF or a Ferox :D 23? # Missile Tool # ex: P-TMC : USAC
without	Posted - 2005.11.07 16:56:00 - [6] this is a common pvp setup and i dont see why it shoulnt work for rats, id assume two of these ravens would *****any lvl 4 in a very short time 6 siege 2hardeners (rat specific), 1 xlarge booster, 1 amp, 1 heavy cap injecter with 800s, 1 more rat specific hardener. 4BCU, 1PDU (5bcu if u can fit it but i think u need the pdu for that +5% grid) in your last high slots put what ever u like, use 6 heavy drones, or if u have the skills, 10medium + others if u can use a t2 xlarge booster, with good skills ur torps will do someting like 900dmg per hit and have like under 9sec rof just lock the BS rats first, kill them fast, use ur drones on the cruisers and tackling frigs you can indefinitly use ur booster constantly for like over 2mins which should be enough time. as always, stay aligned and warp if u need to
HippoKing	Posted - 2005.11.07 19:28:00 - [7] Originally by: FireFoxx80 High: 2x Small Beam Laser II 6x Cruise Missile Launcher Medium: 1x Large Shield Booster II 1x Shield Boost Amp 1x Active Thermal Hardener II 1x Active Kinetic Hardener II 1x Cap Recharger Low: 2x PDU 2x BCU 1x Tracking Computer II Drones: Mix of mediums. use all of your mids. the raven has six - fit another hardener. replace those beams with pulses and switch out that tracking ENHANCER (computers are the midslot version) for another PDU make me a sig! Now 75mil of prizes! ends at midnight on tuesday morning This Zig. For great justice!
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2005.11.07 19:45:00 - [8] Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: FireFoxx80 High: 2x Small Beam Laser II 6x Cruise Missile Launcher Medium: 1x Large Shield Booster II 1x Shield Boost Amp 1x Active Thermal Hardener II 1x Active Kinetic Hardener II 1x Cap Recharger Low: 2x PDU 2x BCU 1x Tracking Computer II Drones: Mix of mediums. use all of your mids. the raven has six - fit another hardener. replace those beams with pulses and switch out that tracking ENHANCER (computers are the midslot version) for another PDU Oh, and a 100MN AB 23? # Missile Tool # ex: P-TMC : USAC
Bigben	Posted - 2005.11.08 22:38:00 - [9] try this setup. the only problem i have is cap. but i am working on that. 11 mill sp) high ( 6 shock limos seige) 1 heavy nos 1 t2720mm howitzer medium 1 sheild boost amp 1 xll sheild boost converse or something 2 kin hard and 2 therm low: 5 pdu 1s when i get t2 it will be a much bigger jump and better. and 15 medium drones of your choice for the frigs + intys and cruisers if you plz. manchester united's best ever fan!
UniSol 2500	Posted - 2005.11.08 23:17:00 - [10] UMpretty funky setups listed here this one will solo the L4 gurista extrava and laugh and im a 6.9m sp char got one for angel extrava solo also ill post it too 6x sieges 1x heavy nos I run arb's and diminishing but malkuths will work good and a cheap named heavy nos tank : 1x XL II 2x knetic 2x thermal 1x shield boost amp ) active hardners I use 55% hardners LOWS : 4x PDS II 1x BCU II ( jugger torps and wasp drones ) for angels same up top med slots are 1x xl II 1x knetic 1x therm2x em 1x explosive same for low slots banes and beserker's

Commodore Andrews	Posted - 2005.11.09 04:38:00 - [11] Edited by: Commodore Andrews on 09/11/2005 04:42:42 Blah nm
Ubute	Posted - 2005.11.09 11:19:00 - [12] ever noticed that npc torps dont hit at 80+ km? Take advantage of it.... fit a sensor booster and after burner and u wont need to tank much at all. then fit 5 ballstics in low, 6 cruise in high and you will kill them all fast. even the dread pith massacre goes down to that. 6 Cruise launchers with rof at 6.5 and 520 base damage is nasty. Use the remaining 4 mids for a bit of a tank. i use T2 large, 2 kinetic hardners, and 1 thermal cause i do guristas. i change for rouge drones, angels and mercs tho to have 1 em hardner. You wont be able to run the tank very long, but u wont need to either. U should carry drones too cause the occational frig gets close. For the 2 spare highs, i fit 2 frig guns, but rarely use em.
Commodore Andrews	Posted - 2005.11.09 19:45:00 - [13] Originally by: Ubute ever noticed that npc torps dont hit at 80+ km? Take advantage of it.... fit a sensor booster and after burner and u wont need to tank much at all. then fit 5 ballstics in low, 6 cruise in high and you will kill them all fast. even the dread pith massacre goes down to that. 6 Cruise launchers with rof at 6.5 and 520 base damage is nasty. Use the remaining 4 mids for a bit of a tank. i use T2 large, 2 kinetic hardners, and 1 thermal cause i do guristas. i change for rouge drones, angels and mercs tho to have 1 em hardner. You wont be able to run the tank very long, but u wont need to either. U should carry drones too cause the occational frig gets close. For the 2 spare highs, i fit 2 frig guns, but rarely use em. Try this on all l4s and you will be dead your first day. Just wait till a group of winmen auto agro and web yer ass while u try and tank angels with this setups 0% tank ability. Lets see... I can think of at least 3 missions off the top of my head that you will almost certainly die with this config. I have almost 800k lp on my l4 agent and i have never lost a raven to an NPC so be sure my advice is sound. All you need to start solo l4s is 1m+ in engineering 1m+ in miss, 5 or more drones (the more the better i like to run 5 meds 2s and 4 hvs atm), and t2 eqp (pds, hards, cap rec, XL2 etc... Convo me in game and ill tell u my setup if you are interested
Mordenkainan	Posted - 2005.11.09 22:43:00 - [14] Don't. you should be able to realistically do lvl4's in a raven at 3-4mil SP's - 16mil and you're worried!!!?? I will not even share my setup with you and I dont need half the stuff bandied around here - learn and adapt, oh and align to warp if you're that worried.
Kamorion	Posted - 2005.11.10 01:46:00 - [15] Edited by: Kamorion on 10/11/2005 01:48:19 heh 16 mill skillpoints and you dont know how to fit a raven up :) you bough the char or something ;) Well well heres the deal. Highslots, 6 arbalest siege launchers "they are cheap these days" 1 heavy named NOS MED: 1 Tech 2 xl shield booster"or better" 1 Shield amp, 1 caprecharger II, 3 hardeners tech 2 "2 kinetic and 1 thermal for guristas" Lowslots: 1 balistic control system II and 4 Powerdiag II And drones, 6 heavy ogres or 4 ogres and 6 meds. That setup is really good on any mission just change the hardeners a bit when battling with angels bloodraiders and sutch. And its not all to expensive and you should have the skills to use it so give it a try, works really well for me. /Kam ps: remove the NOS if you cant fit it all up, Cheap Nosses tend to steal alot of the CPU ;)
Mallik Hendrake	Posted - 2005.11.10 09:34:00 - [16] noooooooob. 6 arbalest siege / 1 officer smartbomb / 1 heavy nos 1 large booster II (or spring for a pithi, they're cheap and not bad), amp, 4 hardeners 3 pds IIs, 2 bcu IIs Should fit, and cost around 800mil en toto. well worth the price for the reward. -------------------------------------------- "A plan is just a list of things that don't happen." -- Parker, _The Way of the Gun_ Mallik Hendrake E X O D U S [I do not speak for E X O or IRON]
KIATolon	Posted - 2005.11.10 11:10:00 - [17] Originally by: Mallik Hendrake 6 arbalest siege / 1 officer smartbomb / 1 heavy nos 1 large booster II (or spring for a pithi, they're cheap and not bad), amp, 4 hardeners 3 pds IIs, 2 bcu IIs And when you've done enough missions you can swap that heavy nos for another siege :)
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2005.11.10 11:12:00 - [18] Didn't buy the char. I just hear a lot of people going into lvl4's and getting wtfown'd in them. I probably am more-or-less setup correctly for those missions. I can do 0.0 spawns without any trouble, and the first few stages of a 6/10 complex. Just it's good to bounce ideas about occasionally. 23? # Missile Tool # ex: P-TMC : USAC
Ubute	Posted - 2005.11.13 09:35:00 - [19] Originally by: Commodore Andrews Originally by: Ubute ever noticed that npc torps dont hit at 80+ km? Take advantage of it.... fit a sensor booster and after burner and u wont need to tank much at all. then fit 5 ballstics in low, 6 cruise in high and you will kill them all fast. even the dread pith massacre goes down to that. 6 Cruise launchers with rof at 6.5 and 520 base damage is nasty. Use the remaining 4 mids for a bit of a tank. i use T2 large, 2 kinetic hardners, and 1 thermal cause i do guristas. i change for rouge drones, angels and mercs tho to have 1 em hardner. You wont be able to run the tank very long, but u wont need to either. U should carry drones too cause the occational frig gets close. For the 2 spare highs, i fit 2 frig guns, but rarely use em. Try this on all l4s and you will be dead your first day. Just wait till a group of winmen auto agro and web yer ass while u try and tank angels with this setups 0% tank ability. Lets see... I can think of at least 3 missions off the top of my head that you will almost certainly die with this config. I have almost 800k lp on my l4 agent and i have never lost a raven to an NPC so be sure my advice is sound. All you need to start solo l4s is 1m+ in engineering 1m+ in miss, 5 or more drones (the more the better i like to run 5 meds 2s and 4 hvs atm), and t2 eqp (pds, hards, cap rec, XL2 etc... Convo me in game and ill tell u my setup if you are interested Try it, u may be pleasantly surprise. For the record, ive never lost a raven, and i been doing missions a while. It all comes down to what u are comfortable with, and what suits your style of play.
Dax Bandar	Posted - 2005.11.14 05:22:00 - [20] Since when does a tracking comp fit in a low slot?

FireFoxx80	Posted - 2005.11.14 08:43:00 - [21] My bad, tracking enhancer? The thing that improves tracking. 23? # Missile Tool # ex: P-TMC : USAC
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2005.11.14 08:43:00 - [22] My bad, tracking enhancer? The thing that improves tracking. 23? # Missile Tool # ex: P-TMC : USAC


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