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Drantis
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Posted - 2005.11.08 10:10:00 -
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 Originally by: FalloutBoy
I still think the the FIX vs. Coalition war was an important event in the south. even though it ended in a stalemate it still had some of the best fleet battles that haven't really been reproduced in the south since the war ended (the G/Iron vs SA war might finally break the trend though).
I agree with Falloutboy on this one. We are also missing the events which lead upto the conflict between SE & ATUK/BOB (Have done these seperate as I will leave it to DBP to say wether they were part of BOB then  ) Vs FIX. This is most deffinatley relevent.
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mahhy
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Posted - 2005.11.08 10:19:00 -
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Edited by: mahhy on 08/11/2005 10:19:42
Originally by: Shin Ra
Has anyone mentioned the mass exodus of the major corps from Stain Empire, when Species, MASS, all the V corps, SGE, Shadow Company etc all left to do their own thing (kill xetic)
Well, the MASS, Species, SGE etc corps leaving for the Coalition had nothing to do with Xetic, as it happened a very very long time before there were ever any hostilities with Xetic. We spent months running around the map, basically just having fun shooting whatever we wanted too.
The -V- corps leaving, timeline-wise was also long before the Xetic hostilities.
Otherwise, this thread is incredibly interesting. Best read in this forum for a LONG time I think.
edit: awful spelling
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Nifel
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Posted - 2005.11.08 10:29:00 -
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Would just like to point out that in no point in time has Nemesis been a part of BoB. Man Baun... just take DBP's advice and talk about your own corp.
"We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago."
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Taurequis
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Posted - 2005.11.08 10:58:00 -
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Edited by: Taurequis on 08/11/2005 10:59:05
Hi,
I did this post ->
Stain History on roleplay forums
A while back to answer some accusations during the SE vs FA war. It covers some of the history of Paragon and early to mid stain. Tis a long post so take from it what you will.
Covers stuff like Moo selling Period Basis, fall of Omega corp, C4 invasion of Stain, the end of the Curse alliance and the FIX war amoungst other issues.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.08 14:28:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Andromedus
CA fell just as the new year began, around the 2-4th of January although declerations might have been made 2-3days later.
you must have a part of the movie showing the [5] blob comming into Curse, twas an incredible sight.
and youŠve got to have the old CA video "...some say we are a curse upon eve, rest assured we are all of those things" - with the pirates of the caribbean music, if I remember correctly.
Also the old Stain alliance fighting C4 in Esoteria vid made by Areyn Sun, that was a great one !
I don't think I've seen either of these videos... linkies please? 
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Andromedus
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Posted - 2005.11.08 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
I don't think I've seen either of these videos... linkies please?
I donŠt know whether theyŠre still hosted anywhere,
IŠll try and see if I cant upload them to somewhere if thats the case
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.08 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Andromedus
Originally by: Dark Shikari
I don't think I've seen either of these videos... linkies please?
I donŠt know whether theyŠre still hosted anywhere,
IŠll try and see if I cant upload them to somewhere if thats the case
Use EVE-Files to upload them, obviously
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Andromedus
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Posted - 2005.11.08 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Andromedus
Originally by: Dark Shikari
I don't think I've seen either of these videos... linkies please?
I donŠt know whether theyŠre still hosted anywhere,
IŠll try and see if I cant upload them to somewhere if thats the case
Use EVE-Files to upload them, obviously
hehe, excuse me, havent played in 6months 
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Pylse
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Posted - 2005.11.08 16:35:00 -
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I think i have quite a few vids from the old days in CA. Some are just minor engagements but does include TS voice in the background which is rather neat, and also a movie made by Vex Seraphim while he was still in RUS. I'll see if I can upload them for you.
Watched the movie. Looks to be interesting indeed =D
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A1astair E
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Posted - 2005.11.08 17:32:00 -
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er howabout ASCN builds first outpost and now there is more outposts in feyth than the rest of the galaxy put together!
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.08 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: A1astair E
er howabout ASCN builds first outpost and now there is more outposts in feyth than the rest of the galaxy put together!
There wouldn't be more if LAVA's wasn't blown up... .
But yeah, thats a very recent one.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.08 20:52:00 -
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Anyone have any of those videos they promised? Or links the ones I asked for? 
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CopeLand
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:04:00 -
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Edited by: CopeLand on 09/11/2005 00:05:48
Some of the best footage from CA vs SA can be found in Zelotas videos
On eve files and on videopage on eve-online u can find old Collective, STain videos and some other Ca videos from others than Zelota.
Masta Killas videos can be found on eve-files under collective.
That should give u coverage of catch/stain/curse areas.
Some of the c4 videos can be found on eve-online videopage
hope this may help you with your project
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: CopeLand
Edited by: CopeLand on 09/11/2005 00:05:48
Some of the best footage from CA vs SA can be found in Zelotas videos
On eve files and on videopage on eve-online u can find old Collective, STain videos and some other Ca videos from others than Zelota.
Masta Killas videos can be found on eve-files under collective.
That should give u coverage of catch/stain/curse areas.
Some of the c4 videos can be found on eve-online videopage
hope this may help you with your project
Never having told anyone your corp's password on eve-files 4tw.
After watching the earlier one of my vids recently (welcome to the jungle) I seriously thought about deleting it off eve-files but the more recent one (Brothers in Arms) really shows wtf was happening in curse between ca's disbanding and five's forming.
Bottomline: Stuff blew up in curse...a LOT of stuff
A link to help ppl with the historical stuff in those months of chaos in curse
Educational Eve videos
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.09 01:06:00 -
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BTW, when exactly was the m0o invasion of Fountain, and are there any videos of it?
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.11.09 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
BTW, when exactly was the m0o invasion of Fountain, and are there any videos of it?
I can't remember exactly when, but it happened between the Great Northern War and the fall of Curse.
The invasion of Fountain
The War for YZ-LQL
More m0o video links here
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Oisin
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Posted - 2005.11.09 18:35:00 -
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Edited by: Oisin on 09/11/2005 18:37:16
Afecks made three videos of the beginnings of FIX, and the Fix website has a lot of background on that period, though last time I checked it hadn't been updated for a while. IIRC there's stuff on the Fix forums as well but I don't have access to them anymore :P
Falloutboy: hell yes, the Coalition war should be included, it was on my list on the first page ;)
Rough timeline of Fix/Coalition hostilities from an ex Fix POV:
Feb 25 SE/FIX shooting war ends. Neither side has rights (including travel) in each other's space.
March-April Some corps leave SE, including Species 5618 who hold FAT station. ATUK and friends use FAT-6P as base for attacks on Querious. Some Coalition corps use FIX space as a shortcut for attacks on Delve and are made KOS by Fix. Collective and others retaliate by raiding Fix in southern Querious.
May ATUK leaves BoB and forms The Five alliance with Shinra and others. 5 and Coalition attack Xetic. CLS and others leave Xetic and form ASCN alliance.
May 19 FIX nap with BoB but remain hostile to 5.
May 21 FIX begins assault on FAT station, targeting Species, MASS, Collective, Storm Guard Elite and Shadow Company.
There are videos on both sides... FAT is held by FIX for two weeks under increasing pressure, eventually leading to the station being taken and retaken a number of times. FIX eventually withdraws temporarily leaving FAT station in Species hands. Coalition briefly takes H74 but is driven back.
June 20 Species and others rejoin SE, which has been neutral throughout the conflict. Ceasefire by default! MASS moves to Omist. Cujo becomes Stain Emperor.
July Southern NAP. Fix, SE, BoB, 5, ASCN attack the northern alliances.
Originally by: LeMonde
I also wouldn't recommend using a shuttle for any of those complexes, as you will find yourself outgunned.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.11.09 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: VonKaplanek III
This is taken from Xetic Forum... Mostly correct...
History of the Xetic Federation alliance
<snip>
When SA and CA started to get minerals out of Immensea (cease fire zone) and occasionally fought there, as well several pirates moved down here, we founded the Immensea Federation as a trial membership alliance. The official name was from then on the Xetic Immensea Federation (XIF).
Later, the XETIC gave the IF a proper constitution (strict seperation between IF/X, X has veto power).
<snip>
SA declared war on us for minor reasons, we fought 2 weeks and earned lots of respect for each other. War was ended and a new NAP signed afterwards.
CA treated this as treachery, and sent ATUK to fight us. But officialy they denied beeing in control of ATUK. We earned the respect of ATUK as well because of our willingness to protect our space and our grown-up attitude (No Smacktalk).
<snip>
Second constitution, still seperation between X/IF but now voting based on number of members.
There are some chronological inaccuracies due to the point-list format we wrote that in and because there wasn't anyone really responsible for maintaining a strict accuracy on that list (well, I kind of tried, but I dabbled a lot in maintaining/disrupting the information pages)
The SA war was, that too, over plain boredom. CA was at that time in a state of retreat and the usual battles in DSS <-> HLW wasn't happening as often as they'd like. To say that both sides gained a lot of respect for each other is putting it in a good light. Fact was that SA leadership pittied XIF as far as I heard (that is, they STILL didn't get many good battles).
The ATUK passage was actually written before we knew what exactly had been going on. ATUK wasn't "sent", they just did what they felt like. They came down for a fleet battle where Xetic massively outnumbered them, although we were seriously subpar as to skills. The battle ended in what both sides decided a jolly fun draw after several hours of fighting. The reason the battle ended was that both sides ran out of ammunition (with Xetic even sneaking two industrials in from 2O-EEW with extra munitions)
ATUK broke out of CA shortly after, from what we could tell it was from getting nagged at to stay in line and behave. Naturally they went haywire at that ^^
The first constitution was actually when Xetic gave voting power based on size to ALL corporations associated to Xetic, while the actual Constitution was written when Xetic dumped "Immensea" from the name. In fact one of the reasons for dumping Immensea was that it could so easily be taken from us.
A mark that's earned it's place is actually that Xetic was the first, last, and only working democracy in this game. Should be noted somewhere in the region of April/June 2004 when the constitutional work was undertaken. It lasted about a year under preasure that noone thought it could handle.
Prior to the launch of Exodus the ranking (top to bottom) of ALL alliances were estimated to: Curse, Stain, Xetic, Fountain (with XF and FA estimated near each other)
As to the numbers on the first Exodus alliances, Stain was the first to cross 2000 members, I believe. Xetic soon after broke the 3000 marker and proceded up to the 4000 marker. Curse never crossed 3000 as far as I know, and Stain was always second largest. A bit of interesting trivia.
Of course, if you count the actual defensive forces of the different alliances instead of pure numbers, the situation was greatly in disfavour of ol' XF
Oh, and in spite of Immensea having been a free zone for CA and SA, none really could be arsed to go mining there. And due to the CA-SA war, that region was always in a state of "waiting to be opened after the war has ended" - as we had it in our mission statement to have Immensea as a policed freezone for all to come mine there (Immensea Federation was supposed to be that policing force)
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.11.10 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: Elenia Kheynes on 10/11/2005 00:26:28
Good post ithildin.
I think it would be important to point that XF defense forces were created from nothing during the CA/XIF war and managed to hold (it would be necessary to indicate the extreme losses taken by XF militia)
Also, I think that should be noted for history that ASCN was created by the XF government and recruited all the corporations of Impass and Feythabolis except those that didn't want to be part of it and the XTrading company.
It would be noted that Immensea corps became NBSI alliance, Omist corps became Stain Alliance afterwards (Chosen Fate being one of the only Omist corp ative enough to remember) and Tenerifis corps became Supremacy for a part, MWA afterwards for the other part (event nova for Supremacy, Crux Corp and Quantum industries for MWA). Also, one XF corp became RA and then took back control of Immensea with the assistance of RAT (Imperial saboteurs).
Should be also noted: RA declaring war upon SE, and XF attacking RA to support SE in application of the mutual defense pact (shows how ironic politics can be sometimes ).
Also, forgotten be important; the 1 day of the "Southern Coalition of Allies"
Pact between SE, XF, Foundation, Veritas Immortalis and FSA agreed by the leaders of all those alliances aiming at creating a general defensive coalition in the south to counter the hidden projects of the [5] and which main enemy was Red Alliance (applying a simple theory that problems should be dealt one by one, RA being on top of problems list). The SCA failed because of 2 main reasons:
-intervention of Cyvok on public boards detailling the SCA which was like throwing oil on a fire. This intervention had not been agreed by any of the members of the SCA.
-attack by CLS forces under direct oreder of Cyvok of shinra forces (the industrial ship incident) that gave a reason to [5] to start the XF/[5] war while allowing SCA members to deny application of mutual defense pacts
The following needs to be precise about the XF/[5] war:
-attack from Shinra forces on Immensea
-attack from RA forces on Tenerifis, repelled thanks to the help of FSA sticking to SCA plans (they diverted the enemy from Tenerifis by attacking Cache).
-attack from ATUK on Impass
-attack from coalition forces on Feythabolis. ASCN is then created and "offers" Omist to the Coalition. Remains of XF forces outnumbered follow Yoristar and accept to give Omist away to the Coalition.
-this event is followed by an offensive from Supremacy in Tenerifis that is repelled first night. Major corps from Tenerifis agree to a NAP with supremacy.
-this NAP is followed by a serie of important troubles in Tenerifis lead by XTrading Company. Main event is a combined fleet of RA/XF/Foundation sizing jv1v while the whole ATUK fleet is mining 1 jump out. [5] forces loose a majority of battleships in the counter offensive, loose a fleet battle against XF/RAT forces (although I'd note that RAT forces played 90% of the role in that case, I'd point that XF intel played a role in the success) but manage to resize the station. This event is still followed by regional troubles restraining the developpement of the region and requiring Supremacy fleet to remain there trying to secure the region. One of the success is XF intel permitting the desctruction of supremacy freighter by RAT (by the use of controversed tactics).
Following events for the regions are:
-ASCN maintain its control over Feythabolis and Impass and creates the first Outpost in Eve. ASCN manages to create 3 other outposts no matter the war against the MC and G/IRON.
-NBSI states its hostility toward ASCN (stated after creation of NBSI alliance, due to an old rivality between Immensea and Feythabolis/impass factions)
-Immensea is retaken by a RAT/SABOT fleet, followed by wicked Creek, Detorid, Cache, etc...
Facing the POS war in Immensea, [5] command orders withdrawal of [5] from southern regions. All troops are mobilized to assist in the withdrawal of [5] assets.
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.11.10 01:15:00 -
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NBSI vs ASCN hostility began from DDC trying to tell E-R how to PVP!!
NBSI is indeed continuing its RP based Hostility to ASCN, but we recognise that if either NBSI or ASCN died, then we would lose content so i don't think either side wants the complete annihliation of the other.
If it came down to it, i think it would be a very interesting engagement, ASCN's numbers vs NBSI stubborn streak.
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Krapz
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Posted - 2005.11.10 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Cartiff
i don't think either side wants the complete annihliation of the other.
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You might be surprised
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.11.10 10:19:00 -
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On ASCN outposts.
As far as I can tell, the first outpost was created during the MC contract on them. Drunken MC pilots lemminged their way into the camp and afterwards discovered that there was a station egg sitting there (the covert ops pilot noticed something odd in their midst). MC command issues a "Meh!" statement over the intoxinated pilots' actions upon waking the next morning. Taunts were as liberally flung in all directions, as always, on internal boards.
MC can proudly claim to be the first tourists "visiting" the station and recieving a warm welcome.
The other outposts were erected shortly after MC contract ended, I believe
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.11.10 12:08:00 -
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I joined CA about 2-3 months b4 the end, and was part of the formation of the Keiretsu while in The Black Widows.
Let me tell you, a lot of interesting TS meetings there! A ****-ton of politics man...
Don't know how much you want to get into that, but the fight over GW was very bloody, and we truly hated The Foundation. It was great fun.
I'm sure I could give you a few names for historical data and Vids if your interested on chronicling the fight for GW...
To this day the hatred remains for some of us...
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Nepereta
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Posted - 2005.11.10 12:39:00 -
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Best post to hit this forum for ages. We need to build an official history book for generations to come. We should start a eve history wiki perhaps?
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.11.10 12:44:00 -
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The EVE history thread in the Library is worth a gander.
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Sheppard
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Posted - 2005.11.10 12:47:00 -
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Dark Shikari - The best people to talk to about the Old CFS, CFSN, Creation of FIX.
Would be.
Avernus - Fix/CFS
Nez - Fix/CFS
OldManBalls (Yoda) - CFS/CFSN
Madcap Magician - CFSN
Sorry but i had to restore my entire computer and lost all the logs and information regarding the CFS,CFSN and FIX details.
I sugguest post on the fix forums as Yoda still reads them and is full of knowledge. He might still have details you can use.
One thing though. The hand over of the stations in Querious from Black Avatar to Fix was done by The Council.
Oh the Most major thing to happen in the South has to be CCP renaming the FIX region to Querious. What were they thinking!!!!!!!!
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.11.10 13:35:00 -
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Shinra in Period Basis
One of the earlier battles in Period Basis. Shinra vs FA and locals.
Shinra vs Fountain
One of the earlier fleetbattles we had against FA. This was in the period that Shinra claimed Period Basis.
[5] Move into Curse
As name suggests. Only the intro is about that though. The footage is assorted stuff from fights against XETIC and FA.
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.11.10 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Krapz
Edited by: Krapz on 10/11/2005 05:31:04
Originally by: Cartiff
i don't think either side wants the complete annihliation of the other.
You might be surprised
Then lets see how the dice fall
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Hellraiza666
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Posted - 2005.11.10 16:11:00 -
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message from MAXsuicide :
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.11.10 16:40:00 -
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Quote:
-intervention of Cyvok on public boards detailling the SCA which was like throwing oil on a fire. This intervention had not been agreed by any of the members of the SCA.
I knew it Cyvok is a 5 alt
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