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Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.10 01:11:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:I remember that mission. Quite clearly you don't, as the mission you describe isn't the one the OP refers to.
ShahFluffers wrote:It didn't take a genius to figure how "this mission says I need ore... hey, I have a mining laser on that first ship of mine... You may have had a mining laser on your first ship, but today's newbies don't.
ShahFluffers wrote:I remember that one being part of the industrial tutorial. Indeed, but the question is about the business tutorial . . .
Regardless... you should have still been able to connect the dots.
ShahFluffers wrote:- The first ship you get in the game comes with a mining laser (which is clearly labelled as such). Nope - see above.
ShahFluffers wrote:- The mission is asking you to mine. - Previous missions usually take you someplace. Maybe this one does? Undock and find out. What would be the point without a mining laser?
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Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.10 01:14:00 -
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This thead is a classic example of how NOT to deal with a genuine query from a confused new player who is stuck because of misleading in-game information and a poorly structured tutotial. |

Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.10 01:34:00 -
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This thread is a classic example of people trying to shift the blame for their own incompetence.
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Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.10 01:35:00 -
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Klymer wrote:This thread is a classic example of people trying to shift the blame for their own incompetence. In what way? |

Daftcube
Daftcube Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.06.10 02:30:00 -
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In Eve, they throw these types of things at you and you need to figure out how to get the laser on your own. It's not that obvious at first, but yeah. Welcome to Eve. |

Marmaduke Hatplate
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.10 07:24:00 -
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I'm a new player too. I am currently doing the career path tutorials.
First IU did the entire tutorial questline given by Aura, steadily, following her instructions. Then I did Exploration, as it looked interesting. Probe scanning is awful, I discovered. Then I did Business until I had to wait whilst manufacturing something, started Indusrty until I had to wait to manufacture something, then I did Military, and now I'm halfway through advanced military, and continuing with business.
I did the mission in question without getting too confused. When I was given the mining ship, I too was like 'hm, no mining laser?', but a popup from aura said something like 'Look in your item hangar. If you haven't been given a mining laser by your agent, stop here and buy one from the market.'
I can't remember if I'd been introduced to the Market or not at that stage by a tutorial, but it wasn't massively difficult to venture there myselkf and have a look.
I think EvE and new players is a bit like Windows and my mum. She's terrified of doing anything with the right mouse popup menu in Windows, in case she 'breaks the computer'. Eve is very deep, but if you take it very slowly, it's not so bad.
I feel the OPs pain, but tbh, I kind of think the steep learning curve helps to weed out the moronic types of MMO players you often get in games like WoW etc. I do not refer to the OP here, I stress.
Also, Aura often pops up with a 'you can use your [whatever] just like you would a weapon', and I'm sure she did this when I had to mine. I did sit there for ages because I wasn't sure how much Veld I needed, and ended up with thousands more than necessary, however lol.
In short, as a new player, I think the tutorials are quite well done. |

Charlie Jacobson
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Posted - 2013.06.10 07:29:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote: snip @ OP... honestly... you're making a "mountain out of a molehill." snip
+1 for appropriate pun. <3 |

Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.10 12:50:00 -
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Marmaduke Hatplate wrote:I'm a new player too. I am currently doing the career path tutorials.
First IU did the entire tutorial questline given by Aura, steadily, following her instructions. Then I did Exploration, as it looked interesting. Probe scanning is awful, I discovered. Then I did Business until I had to wait whilst manufacturing something, started Indusrty until I had to wait to manufacture something, then I did Military, and now I'm halfway through advanced military, and continuing with business.
I did the mission in question without getting too confused. When I was given the mining ship, I too was like 'hm, no mining laser?', but a popup from aura said something like 'Look in your item hangar. If you haven't been given a mining laser by your agent, stop here and buy one from the market.' You're new, or at least your character is, and I'm sure you mean well, so I'll try to be gentle.
EVE is a complex game and you'll need a better memory than that evidenced here if you're to be successful.
For starters, if you've already done the business tutorial to the point where you have to wait while manufacturing something, you can't be "continuing" with it. The manufacturing mission is the last of the series, so once the job is done and delivered to the agent the tutorial is finished and there's nothing more to be "continuing" with.
Second, you would not have received any "look in your hangar" message from Aura for the simple reason that the agent isn't, and never was, intended to provide a mining laser at that point in the tutorial. That's the problem, as you would know if you'd taken the trouble to read my first post in this thread.
The most stupid thing of all is that the agent does give a Miner I in Mission 6 - three missions too late and when it's no longer necessary.
If you managed the mission with little trouble then either you were more clued up than the OP was when he did it or, as I suspect might be the case, the business and industry tutorials have become mixed up in your memory and you did a few industry missions before switching to business, not vice versa.
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Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.10 12:56:00 -
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Charlie Jacobson wrote:ShahFluffers wrote: snip @ OP... honestly... you're making a "mountain out of a molehill." snip
+1 for appropriate pun. <3 It would be appropriate if this thread was about the industry 'Making Mountains of Molehills' tutorial.
Unfortunately it isn't. |
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