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Hyperr Solar Nexus. Cascade Probable 2	Posted - 2011.10.22 03:13:00 - [1] - Quote What do they do ? what ships well command ships that is actually worth training for? what type of pvp are they good for what type of pve can they do. any other details about them =]? do they take long ot train?
Hyperr Solar Nexus. Cascade Probable 2	Posted - 2011.10.22 03:37:00 - [2] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: Hyperr wrote: What do they do ? what ships well command ships that is actually worth training for? what type of pvp are they good for what type of pve can they do. any other details about them =]? do they take long ot train? 1. The Fleet Command Ships give fleet bonuses and have massive tanks to keep them alive. The Field Command Ships are also better versions of Battlecruisers. 2. Nighthawk and Sleipnir for Combat, the Absolution is meh but passable. Fleet Command ships give bonuses to your gang. Vulture for Shield, Damnation for Armor and Claymore for Nano Gangs to give bonuses to the fleet. 3. Nighthawk is a better Drake, Sleipnir is a better Hurricane and the Absolution is a Tanky Armor Harbinger. The Fleet Command Ships are not that great at PvP but have a ton of Tank, there job is to stay alive and boost the fleet. 4. The Nighthawk and Sleipnir can run Lvl 4 Missions. Abso can manage slowly. 5. Do nOt UsE thE gALlENtE ONeS THEy ArE sO TErRiBLE My fInGer iS TwItcHinG aNd HitTing tHe SHiFt Key jUst ThiNking AbouT thEm. They might be better after the expansion. Here is hoping. how does the damnation fair up in a pvp/pve situation can they do pve like 0.0 ratting fairly well? are command ships even used much in 0.0 wars just curious if there even worth training for a damnation/absolution trying t ofind a ship that can be used for pve to make isk and i can also use it for pvp with about the same skills
Hyperr Solar Nexus. Cascade Probable 2	Posted - 2011.10.22 04:03:00 - [3] - Quote Rhinanna wrote: You probably aren't going to want to be using commandships in PvP too much unless you are in a large fleet, then it will be the Fleet command version. The field command version are great for PvE and smaller scale PvP, problem is they are very vunverable for their price. In most cases best to take a BC and save yourself 170mil when it goes pop ;) Best for PvE and PvP is a BS, can do both well and much quicker to train for. hmm alright then i guesse ill think about going for one of those... now its to find what amarr pve ship. curious will a absolution do better in a pve situation as in can run higher sanctums etc then maybe a abaddon or another amarr type battle ship?(which battle ship would be best for pve some people say apoc might be better then abaddon)?
Hyperr Solar Nexus. Cascade Probable 2	Posted - 2011.10.22 04:26:00 - [4] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: Rhinanna wrote: Best for PvE and PvP is a BS, can do both well and much quicker to train for. Something to add here the premier Battleship is the Abbadon but standard PvP fit involves T2 Large Lasers using T2 Scorch Ammo. As it hits 3 Times farther then close range at almost the same Dmg. That is a long train. The second most used fleet Battleship is the Maelstrom. It is a quicker train since Artillery does not need T2 Ammo to be good. Meta 4 Artillery is cheap without a large loss in Dmg. Honestly I would suggest the Maelstrom for PvE and PvP fleets and fit 1400mm Artillery on an Abbadon. If you don't want to go for the Maelstrom then the Artillery Abbadon is still standard for people who do not have T2 Guns. It's range and High Alpha help to bust RR with large spikes of Dmg while the laser boats hose them down with higher DPS. It is a very short train to Artillery 3-4 then focus on getting T2 Pulses. T2 Scorch Ammo is standard for PvE before that Meta 4 Mega Beam Lasers will do. hmm will a meta 4 mega beams be fine for now until i get to tech 2s and how high would a mid range abaddon, run like how high of a sanctum ? and a hourly isk it could make in 0.0 if you know really wanna get a plan going is all "i wanna just stay with amarr ships and the skills i have"
Hyperr Solar Nexus. Cascade Probable 2	Posted - 2011.10.22 05:04:00 - [5] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: Hyperr wrote: hmm will a meta 4 mega beams be fine for now until i get to tech 2s and how high would a mid range abaddon, run like how high of a sanctum ? and a hourly isk it could make in 0.0 if you know really wanna get a plan going is all "i wanna just stay with amarr ships and the skills i have" Yes they should be fine. I don't know the exact number but last time I ran sanctums it was in the field of an a$$ load. Here are a couple of fits. [Abaddon, PvE Meta 4 Beams] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Large Armor Repairer II Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Cap Recharger II Mega Modulated Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L Mega Modulated Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Ancillary Current Router I Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 [Abaddon, PvP Alpha Abbadon] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5 Thank you man any of those mid/low skill
Hyperr Solar Nexus. Cascade Probable 2	Posted - 2011.10.22 06:41:00 - [6] - Quote ok thanks all for the info i guesse ill go the abaddon route, like i said just trying to find something that i can make a decent living with flying and then can jump into fleets at the same time

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