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Mirima Thurander
Deventer Exploration An Acquisition
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:25:00 -
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Eurogamer: The Council of Stellar Management [CSM] has been increasingly vocal and rebellious in recent months. What's your relationship with them like at the moment - your personal feelings and those of the company as a whole?
Quote:Hilmar P+¬tursson: The CSM has been under constant evolution based on what's going on in the current environment, what's going on with CCP and Eve, who's on the Council and all that. The CSM has helped greatly through the years in getting feedback for aspects of the game.
But some of my concerns right now relate to whether the CSM is maybe focused on a particular aspect of the game and I'm starting to get feedback from players that they worry the CSM is too pre-occupied by a certain playstyle. That might mean we may need to change the structure, but definitely the CSM has worked as a feedback tool greatly throughout the years. We will have them over at the end of the year, after everything that's gone on, and we will have a chance to talk about that. We'll just see where we are and take it from there.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-21-eurogamer-interviews-ccps-hilmar-petursson-interview?page=2
So yea what u going to do now that there starting to think your going on to much about your section of the game?
I mean clearly your not speaking for the hole of EvE any more, just for the null group, or his comment would be out of place.
I love the the smell of victory in the morning. It smells like... Blood, vomit and burning flesh. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:27:00 -
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lol |
Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:27:00 -
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Yup. I agree. See sig. 
CSM do you think?
No matter the changes, high sec people chose the safests. Lots of stick and they will leave. Half the problem is the players in null sec; we do not want to be there with you. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:28:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Yup. I agree. See sig.
Personally I don't mind that null sec is getting looked at. But their whole approach of bashing all other types of gameplay other than the ones that they want, is just bullshit.
I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:34:00 -
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Sounds like a certain CEO got outplayed by a bunch of 0.0 guys and now wants them nerfed.
CCP Himmler is a carebear, C/D?
84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |
Vetruvius Valinor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:35:00 -
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I've always thought CSM should have been a bit more diverse myself. They really should try to break it down into sections. Vote for Nullsec reps, low sec reps, high sec reps, and w-space reps. Would make sure no part of the game wasn't looked at. |
Montevius Williams
Trigger works
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:36:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Yup. I agree. See sig. Personally I don't mind that null sec is getting looked at. But their whole approach of bashing all other types of gameplay other than the ones that they want, is just bullshit.
Yea I agree with this.
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Mirima Thurander
Deventer Exploration An Acquisition
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:40:00 -
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Vetruvius Valinor wrote:I've always thought CSM should have been a bit more diverse myself. They really should try to break it down into sections. Vote for Nullsec reps, low sec reps, high sec reps, and w-space reps. Would make sure no part of the game wasn't looked at.
that's how it should work
I love the the smell of victory in the morning. It smells like... Blood, vomit and burning flesh. |
Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:09:00 -
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Vetruvius Valinor wrote:I've always thought CSM should have been a bit more diverse myself. They really should try to break it down into sections. Vote for Nullsec reps, low sec reps, high sec reps, and w-space reps. Would make sure no part of the game wasn't looked at.
Yeah an its funny when the CSM from one corp start trying to backstab ones from others and trying to get them removed... winder if more Goons will be voted in? Theyre only backed my the first second and third largest corps in the game...
What Mittani wants, Mittani gets, Mittani help us all
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ThisIsntMyMain
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:11:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Yup. I agree. See sig. Personally I don't mind that null sec is getting looked at. But their whole approach of bashing all other types of gameplay other than the ones that they want, is just bullshit.
The irony is strong in this one
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Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:16:00 -
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0.0 makes Eve. All you empire chumps are worthless. |
Greasy Meat Curtains
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:28:00 -
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Vetruvius Valinor wrote:I've always thought CSM should have been a bit more diverse myself. They really should try to break it down into sections. Vote for Nullsec reps, low sec reps, high sec reps, and w-space reps. Would make sure no part of the game wasn't looked at.
I agree. |
Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:29:00 -
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Rhaegor Stormborn wrote:0.0 makes Eve. All you empire chumps are worthless.
0.0 is like the advertising division, Empire is where CCP's real money is made.
Unless you think there are less people in empire than 0.0 and with all the qq about how empty 0.0 is that would make me a bit worried about how many people actually are playing this game......
What Mittani wants, Mittani gets, Mittani help us all
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:42:00 -
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Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Sounds like a certain CEO got outplayed by a bunch of 0.0 guys and now wants them nerfed.
CCP Himmler is a carebear, C/D?
can't nerf this - i'm wearing mc hammer pants |
Mirima Thurander
Deventer Exploration An Acquisition
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:45:00 -
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don't worry we wont take all your spots away we leave you 2, but WHs space Faction war and high sec all gets spots to, you can fight over the rest
I love the the smell of victory in the morning. It smells like... Blood, vomit and burning flesh. |
Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:58:00 -
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Vetruvius Valinor wrote:I've always thought CSM should have been a bit more diverse myself. They really should try to break it down into sections. Vote for Nullsec reps, low sec reps, high sec reps, and w-space reps. Would make sure no part of the game wasn't looked at.
Oooor, people could just vote in EVE Players...ya know the ones that take in the 'whole' of EVE.
Also, pretty sure a High-sec rep would want to "ban" non-consensual PVP, which....would ruin EVE; that's not what this game is about.
WHILE, a Null-sec rep would probably want to remove CONCORD and force the player base to "police" High-sec
Now, if said "EVE"-CSMs wanted to bring in advisers from each of those 'Divisions' that's perfectly okay. |
Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.22 07:05:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Sounds like a certain CEO got outplayed by a bunch of 0.0 guys and now wants them nerfed.
CCP Himmler is a carebear, C/D? can't nerf this - i'm wearing mc hammer pants
You werent dancing fast enough man
What Mittani wants, Mittani gets, Mittani help us all
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.22 07:07:00 -
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Dyner wrote:Vetruvius Valinor wrote:I've always thought CSM should have been a bit more diverse myself. They really should try to break it down into sections. Vote for Nullsec reps, low sec reps, high sec reps, and w-space reps. Would make sure no part of the game wasn't looked at. Oooor, people could just vote in EVE
Funny thing about that... When you have the three Biggest corps that are forced to vote for you, you tend to get elected / reelected.
Itd be damn funny Mittens, if you got a Goon to go for each CSM position. Then you get all of DCF to vote for them. Imaging the tears when ALL of the CSM are Goons rofl
What Mittani wants, Mittani gets, Mittani help us all
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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.10.22 07:08:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:
So yea what u going to do now that there starting to think your going on to much about your section of the game?
I mean clearly your not speaking for the hole of EvE any more, just for the null group, or his comment would be out of place.
I am the sole representative of the Eve-hole.
Anyone else who claims to speak for the hole is a false pretender. |
Harold Tuphlos
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.10.22 07:13:00 -
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Lol, FORCED to vote for? I don't remember being forced to vote for those that I voted for... |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.10.22 07:18:00 -
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I'm sure we all can guess whose parts they're stuck in....
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.10.22 07:28:00 -
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Did we really need another thread .. what the hell is it with people these days that they think that every little thought is unique and has to be shared on that basis. Stop the damn spam already, everyone knows that one/two-party systems suck even in virtual worlds, no need to bring it up every hour.
The Mittani wrote:can't nerf this - i'm wearing mc hammer pants
Not technically pants, believe they are classified as Adult Diapers ...
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Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
Thundering Herd
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Posted - 2011.10.22 07:47:00 -
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Guess I'll have to announce my candidacy for the next CSM early.  |
Embrace My Hate
Black Horizon.
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.22 08:50:00 -
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Regardless of whether or not your an industrialist, PvP'er or anything in between there is just one thing we need to concentrate on. Preserve the sandbox.
Less rules, More Tools.
Unlike almost any other MMO out there, it falls upon the players to dictate their own gameplay. If you don't like the current CSM and their apparent agenda then start your own alliance with several thousand playerbase for support and make your own run for CSM. Maybe find a creative new way to get support via tools provided and see if that works.
Anything short of the above is looking for a temporary solution to a permanent problem. That regardless of whose in positions of power the people doing the bitching are usually the people not willing to do anything and nothing will ever change. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.10.22 09:02:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:I mean clearly your not speaking for the hole of EvE any more, just for the null group, or his comment would be out of place. No. What is clear is that he has noticed that some people are whining because the CSM is not trying to break the game economy the way the whiners would prefer.
His comment would only be GÇ£out of placeGÇ¥ without those whiners, and whether or not the CSM GÇ£speaks for the whole of EVEGÇ¥ is not really a factor.
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GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
Universal Consortium
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Posted - 2011.10.22 09:30:00 -
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Rhaegor Stormborn wrote:0.0 makes Eve. All you empire chumps are worthless.
-10/10: Needs more originality. Keep practising, though
I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
Bel Amar
Sudden Buggery
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Posted - 2011.10.22 09:43:00 -
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Vetruvius Valinor wrote:I've always thought CSM should have been a bit more diverse myself. They really should try to break it down into sections. Vote for Nullsec reps, low sec reps, high sec reps, and w-space reps. Would make sure no part of the game wasn't looked at.
Except the "whole game".
I don't want someone who is from a WH, or from null. I want someone who will push towards a riskier edgier game, driven by players rather than scripted content whenever game design discussion happens. I honestly don't care where that person comes from, because they'll make all areas of the game more to my liking |
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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.22 10:06:00 -
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Please don't create duplicate threads.
Thread locked.
This topic is already covered here.
CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Cidwm
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.22 10:08:00 -
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The main problem with the current CSM is that its way too bisaed to one style of play. anyone that challenges that style basically gets the opinion that the delightful Rhaegor stormborn gave us amongst many others :- "0.0 makes Eve. All you empire chumps are worthless."... riiiight....
So were does a good proportion of industry and commerce take place?
Also, take a look at the current CSM especially its loudest members... 4-5 of them come from the same power bloc alone! Surely this is open to abuse as a result in some way or another?
I know what some of you are saying when you say that high seccers should have voted more/better... but have you ever tried to organise them? high sec life is very very different from 0.0 mainly because in high sec there alot more fractured. Ive operated in systems with over 50+ people from as many corps with little to no communication going on with them. They don't belong to a massive alliance or coalition were loyalty more than sense wavers votes for specific people within there own power bloc because that serves there best interest rather than somone who could think in the best interest of EVE as a whole.
I'm interested to see what CCP want to do in regards to the CSM. As long as the EVE player base doesnt lose its ability to communicate with CCP and get there point across without moaning too much then it could well be a good thing indeed! |
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