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SuicideBob
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Posted - 2003.08.07 12:49:00 -
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Good job pirates! The more subscribers you run out of Eve the more bandwidth and server time the rest of us will have!
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Psyco Groupie
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Posted - 2003.08.07 12:51:00 -
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good one, w-anchor
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Scragg
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Posted - 2003.08.07 12:55:00 -
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Edited by: Scragg on 07/08/2003 12:55:19
The sky is falling the sky is falling! Run!
How come I have never run into a pirate I did not expect to run into? You can look at the map, see the pilots in space, see the ships destroyed. The only way CCP could make it easier is to put a big yellow arrow with a caption that says DANGER! PIRATE HERE! on the map.
If you must complain about something complain about lag buggs, crashes to desktop etc... if they fix all that junk you can simply avoid the rats.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation
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SuicideBob
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Posted - 2003.08.07 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: Scragg on 07/08/2003 12:55:19
The sky is falling the sky is falling! Run!
How come I have never run into a pirate I did not expect to run into? You can look at the map, see the pilots in space, see the ships destroyed. The only way CCP could make it easier is to put a big yellow arrow with a caption that says DANGER! PIRATE HERE! on the map.
If you must complain about something complain about lag buggs, crashes to desktop etc... if they fix all that junk you can simply avoid the rats.
Arrgggggg Matey!
The pirates of EVE thank you for your support!
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DJvGalen
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Posted - 2003.08.07 13:09:00 -
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How come I have never run into a pirate I did not expect to run into? You can look at the map, see the pilots in space, see the ships destroyed. The only way CCP could make it easier is to put a big yellow arrow with a caption that says DANGER! PIRATE HERE! on the map.
I hate to wake you from your nice dream, I was podded 2 days ago and i DID check the map for podkills, there was 1 system with podkills near where I was killed and I stayed atleast 2 jumps away from it, then suddenly there were those Venal Alliance pirates that showed me how totally useless that map really is.
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Hideo Kojiama
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Posted - 2003.08.07 13:13:00 -
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Good job pirates! The more subscribers you run out of Eve the more bandwidth and server time the rest of us will have!
your a frickin weirdo if more and more players go eve will get stopeed due to them not making enough money.
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Athan
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Posted - 2003.08.07 13:14:00 -
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I hate to wake you from your nice dream, I was podded 2 days ago and i DID check the map for podkills, there was 1 system with podkills near where I was killed and I stayed atleast 2 jumps away from it, then suddenly there were those Venal Alliance pirates that showed me how totally useless that map really is.
I suppose you expect to avoid all traffic jams if you check the radio/AA website too, eh ?
The only real safety in EvE, well as real as it gets, is travelling in sufficient numbers to defend yourselves. Every time you don't you ARE risking Bad Things Happening.
-Ath, lucky so far
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Alkad Mzu
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Posted - 2003.08.07 13:20:00 -
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...or stay home.
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.08.07 13:32:00 -
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"...or stay home"
...or cancel your subscription
The point the original poster was trying to get across.
"Trust No One" |
MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.08.07 13:36:00 -
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Oh yeah right IŠll cancel by subscription because of pirates. That has got to be the biggest bs I ever heard.
EVERYONE who leaves the game because of player pirates is nothing but a *****. Go play "The Sims" instead.
Mai's Idealog |
Fester Addams
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Posted - 2003.08.07 13:52:00 -
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fact still remains, people are quitting because of pirates.
Its not good nor CCP as they make most of their money from the subscriptions, its not good for the player who quits as he has invested in it and its not good for the pirate as each little white mouse that gets pirated to quit makes one less person for the pirates to hunt.
Pirates are already complaining about people wising up, soon there will only be the smart miners and trades left, the ones with bookmarks on every gate and station meening they always warp in on top of the place they want to go, no targets and the pirates stop playing to find one where they can kill off players at will, having lost first the bulk of non pirates players and then the bulk of the pirates... well there wont be enough of uss left to make the game profitable.
As good as the game is I have a feeling it wont be as profitable as it deserves for CCP, partly because of the bugs but also because of all the pirates using exploits or not.
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.08.07 13:56:00 -
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Anyone who quits because of a pirate or a griever would of quit anyhow in a short time.
Better for the fluff to go. This is not a friendly game.
EvE quiter = the ppl who use cheat codes and look at the hint sections on how to beat a game and play on the easy setting. They have no will for challenge.
I only have sympathy for those who get fed up with poor customer service and victims of the numerous bugs not yet fixed.
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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SuicideBob
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Posted - 2003.08.07 14:10:00 -
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Oh yeah right IŠll cancel by subscription because of pirates. That has got to be the biggest bs I ever heard.
EVERYONE who leaves the game because of player pirates is nothing but a *****. Go play "The Sims" instead.
Arrggggg Matey!!
Go play the Sims! That's the spirit. Pirates needs to push those sissy subscribers off Eve's service and onto some other game!
I'll bet CCP doesn't need their sissy money anyway. I'll bet CCP only wants tough-guy money!
Arrgggggg, arggggg.
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Josun Ferox
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Posted - 2003.08.07 14:14:00 -
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I agree.
Honestly, without some pirates - what would you want to do ?
They add a good mass of danger, make you think abt. a sensible fitting, get people together for longer travel - and IMO pump up the market in many way (not all for good, that is).
Leaving because of trouble ahead ?
Those quitters would leave a pub, when the singing (or swinging ?) starts.
My suggestion:
DonŠt lame about it - find a better way !
Talking about ctd, blue screens, etc...
THIS is a rather serious point, reason to quit not only for the easy gamers, but for the not so patient among us - and who really wants to wait forever ?
J. F.
<...wanna rule ? learn to serve 1st>
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Jax Sirius
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Posted - 2003.08.07 14:19:00 -
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Hmmm.. Suicide Bob..
Always trying to scam or swindle your way through Amarr society..
You have no rights to the bloodline you hold in your rancid veins..
I call apon all Amarrians to rid ourselfs of this scum, once.. and for all!
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Seer
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Posted - 2003.08.07 14:21:00 -
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Edited by: Seer on 07/08/2003 14:21:54
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EvE quiter = the ppl who use cheat codes and look at the hint sections on how to beat a game and play on the easy setting. They have no will for challenge.
Wise words bro' - wise words indeed.....
However - Players who like the fluffy version of Eve would stay if CONCORD was capable, and I do think pirates are gonna have to come up with other ways of pirating than camping jump gates which is good because its so easy atm that its almost like using the above mentioned cheats/etc The advantage of the camper is enormous.... until the patch that is :D
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SuicideBob
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Posted - 2003.08.07 14:31:00 -
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Anyone who quits because of a pirate or a griever would of quit anyhow in a short time.
Better for the fluff to go. This is not a friendly game.
EvE quiter = the ppl who use cheat codes and look at the hint sections on how to beat a game and play on the easy setting. They have no will for challenge.
I only have sympathy for those who get fed up with poor customer service and victims of the numerous bugs not yet fixed.
Avast me buck-o!
Good to hear that the pirates are getting rid of those sissy fluff subscribers too!
Nobody should be allowed to play Eve except the select few!
Argggg! Arggg!
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SuicideBob
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Posted - 2003.08.07 14:36:00 -
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Good job pirates! The more subscribers you run out of Eve the more bandwidth and server time the rest of us will have!
your a frickin weirdo if more and more players go eve will get stopeed due to them not making enough money.
Nooooo!!!! You must jest! That can't possibly be true!
Argggggg
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Valeria
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Posted - 2003.08.07 14:43:00 -
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Pirating is the worst way to make money in this game, though I admit it's quite entertaining. During my days in The Gang, I made maybe a few millions from pirating total (that's over 2 months or so), and all the good stuff I found went straight into corp hangar (like once I caught a industrial carrying 6x Dual 425mm Scouts) with no profit.
And people don't quit because of pirates, they quit because they're stupid enough to get caught. I mean, you really have to TRY to get caught in a blockade. I've run into a few in and outside Lonetrek and either they just warp away when you arrive, or they warp away when you lock them, or you just blaze by them with MWD (activated after warp as i'm to lazy to remember activating it while warping). If you don't use MWD, just warp away during your 10 second invulnerability.
Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes some nublar, wrecking for 1155.0 damage. |
Dianabolic
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Posted - 2003.08.07 14:51:00 -
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FFS, don't wanna get caught by pirates, stay in empire space.
Outside of empire space, tough.
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Lhyda Souljacker
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Posted - 2003.08.07 14:55:00 -
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However - Players who like the fluffy version of Eve would stay if CONCORD was capable, and I do think pirates are gonna have to come up with other ways of pirating than camping jump gates which is good because its so easy atm that its almost like using the above mentioned cheats/etc The advantage of the camper is enormous.... until the patch that is :D
Needless to say EVE is pretty hardcore. Sucesses are hard to come by for new players . . . it really takes a week or two to get a feel for the game. Also throw in that ignorance is severely punished (i.e. wandering into a blockade, loosing your indy full of robotics).
I like it that way personally, but there should be some low reward safe areas for new players, and players who don't like taking risks.
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SuicideBob
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Posted - 2003.08.07 14:57:00 -
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And people don't quit because of pirates, they quit because they're stupid enough to get caught.
Argggggggg, arggggg..
Pirates, do you duty! No need for a stupid player to take up cpu time! Why should stupid people have fun? They don't deserve it.
Pod the stupid subscribers. Make them feel stupid so they'll cancell their subscription! Get those losers off the servers quick. That'll leave more cpu cycles for the smart players!
And I'll bet CCP doesn't want money from stupid people either.
Argggggg.
Polly wants a *****er. Polly wants YOUR *****er.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.08.07 15:00:00 -
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And people don't quit because of pirates, they quit because they're stupid enough to get caught.
Argggggggg, arggggg..
Pirates, do you duty! No need for a stupid player to take up cpu time! Why should stupid people have fun? They don't deserve it.
Pod the stupid subscribers. Make them feel stupid so they'll cancell their subscription! Get those losers off the servers quick. That'll leave more cpu cycles for the smart players!
And I'll bet CCP doesn't want money from stupid people either.
Argggggg.
Polly wants a *****er. Polly wants YOUR *****er.
Oh just shut up. Please. Nobody is leaving over pirates. Most player pirates aren't anywhere near any new players. They're all caught up in the midst of war and defending 'their' territory.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Brock
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Posted - 2003.08.07 15:07:00 -
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Good to see ya stepping up to fill ScrapYard Jack's entertaining shoes SuicideBob 
Funnier than the initial sarcasm is always the people who take it literally, although to be fair to them, English might not be their 1st language.
I went for Eve specifically because it IS tougher pvp-wise than other games. I love the idea that each battle is 'for real' and that there are no save games and the pirates are a totally valid part of that 
I didn't however expect ships and equipment to be so damn costly to replace and some battles so one sided and in that respect I think Eve has a real problem with its game mechanics 
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SuicideBob
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Posted - 2003.08.07 15:08:00 -
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Oh just shut up. Please. Nobody is leaving over pirates. Most player pirates aren't anywhere near any new players. They're all caught up in the midst of war and defending 'their' territory.
Ahoy Matey!
The pirates of Eve thank you for your support!
Yoh, ho, ho! |
Zeidrich
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Posted - 2003.08.07 15:09:00 -
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Every game that's been dumbed down and made easier and safer for those vocal players who want to be able to do everything by themsleves has died a slow death.
Every game that's sacrificed it's original design intentions to appease the masses, catering to what they thing might bring in the most cash, regardless how fun it would actually make the game has gone downhill.
Take Asherons Call 2 for instance. Great graphics, interesting combat system, but they geared the game towards everyone being able to do everything, result, people are dead bored, and the most populated server has about 300 players on it, and they're merging the servers to try and recover player base.
Take star wars galaxies, they tried to make a game where everyone was on the same level as everyone else, you know, so it was fair. Games like that have no goals, and while it might appease those people who happen to whine when they don't get their way, it doesn't give anything back to the other players, who might enjoy a challenge, or the chance to have an obstacle that they can't overcome.
For me that's what I like about eve. I've died to pirate blockades. I've died to pirates. I've fought pirates. I've killed pirates. I was transporting a few thousand megacyte in my moa and got attacked by pirates (I won that fight, it was only some guy in m3g4 or t3h r0n1n or something). I lost 3 prototype 250mm gauss guns to lucifer, and there's no way I'm going to quit because of it.
That's what this game was about. You know if there wasn't the pirates, and the corrupt mega corps, and the freelancing bounty hunters, and all that other stuff, this game would be one hell of a boring mining simulation. In fact, I could probably write an online mining simulation which was much more fun than this by myself in an afternoon. Give me a month and it would be an awesome mining/trading/production game. But guess what, without some action, a game like that would be boring as hell.
But that's just my opinion.
But in my opinion, if they dumb down the game, to the point where i never get into conflicts with pirates, and I never can do anything underhanded if someone ticks me off, where everything is handed to me on a silver platter, it's ME that's going to be walking away from this game.
And I'm the kind of player who's pretty damn resiliant. I don't mind most of these balance changes. If you're the whiny kind of player, you'll "quit" because you stubbed your toe. And in reality, if those types of players quit, it's no big deal, because they're impossible to please, and would quit anyways. But if the players who at the moment are enjoying the game, which I would say, despite what you might think, are the majority of those playing, quit, well then, this game will be filled with finicky whiny players who will get bored with no challenges and end up quitting as well, and the game will be dead.
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Singular
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Posted - 2003.08.07 15:14:00 -
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"EvE quiter = the ppl who use cheat codes and look at the hint sections on how to beat a game and play on the easy setting. They have no will for challenge"
Couldn't have said it better myself.
This is the type of gamer I cannot stand -- the kind that cannot lose, the kind that cannot come back to fight again another day.
Im Yo Huckleberreh |
Indira Firebrand
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Posted - 2003.08.07 15:18:00 -
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So you buy and subscribe to a game that you know is PvP when you bought it and then you want to complain when you get PvPed?
anyone that complains needs to have a nice shot of STFU followed by a GTFA chaser cause your too stupid to be here.
Keep complaining and I'll tell you how I REALLY feel! =)
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SuicideBob
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Posted - 2003.08.07 15:22:00 -
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This is the type of gamer I cannot stand -- the kind that cannot lose, the kind that cannot come back to fight again another day.
Arrggggg..
Well said Mate. We don't needs nobody but the special gamers. Them other kinds needs to be run off. Pod them lamers till they stop paying their dues.
More bandwidth fer us I say.
Arrrgggggg....
Double shot them guns and be quick about it!
Arggggggg...
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2003.08.07 15:37:00 -
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FFS, don't wanna get caught by pirates, stay in empire space.
Outside of empire space, tough.
Well, seeing that there are a lot of pirates in empire space too, where should they go then?
I understand the original poster's point. A new player, struggling to make ends meet, get that new ship, learning the controls, etc. can be seriously put off playing if he's podded. Sure, there should be pirates in EVE, even in Empire space, but not in 1.0 space. While CCP fix the bugs that makes it possible for them to operate even in 1.0 space, subscribers are cancelling their accounts. This IS a problem.
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