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ElweSingollo	Posted - 2005.11.09 00:42:00 - [1] Originally by: 31i73 Edited by: 31i73 on 09/11/2005 00:06:06 Is all of EVE down, or just for some ppl? (if I'm allowed to ask?) Well I am still on atm though I think it appears to be a login problem as long as yuo were in when the server went pete tong you were fine. In regards to what caused it all I will say is people should be patient no use jumping to conclusion when there is only marginal evidence about what happened. If players have been responsible I am sure the devs will deal accordingly if it is due to server issues you only need to look at the dev blogs to see that the devs are trying to sort out the situation with the various changes planned. Maximum signature size exceeded. Maximum size is 400*120 and 24000 bytes. - Teblin <--- Oops been a bad boy :D
ElweSingollo	Posted - 2005.11.09 01:29:00 - [2] Originally by: ENERGIZED what the hell is going on in eve? did they forget to pay their rent? or hydro billcan anyone find out how much time it will take before its back online? these problems make me fera that for a good game it sure has alot of probs and bugs, what do they do with all the money?patries? damn man for a game that has won tons of prizes for graphics they sure most of gotten tons of prizes for screw ups.How are we conpensated for all this? nothing just a sorry, well sorry 400 times a months sure dont mean nothing no more..... Overexagerating FTL so let see average 30 days in a month that 400 / 30 = 13.3333 etc per day hmm lemme see each time server reboots you are looking at approx 15mins to 30mins out of action so that is by your math 3.5 hours not including downtime that eve is out of action every day. One question what planet do you live on? Maximum signature size exceeded. Maximum size is 400*120 and 24000 bytes. - Teblin <--- Oops been a bad boy :D
ElweSingollo	Posted - 2005.11.09 01:49:00 - [3] Originally by: Spaja Saist Originally by: Permanewbie Half of you guys are missing the point of the initial post. A corp intentionally did something to overload a node to cause instability issues in protest to a recent decision. Dont be mad at CCP. Be mad at the guys mentioned in the FIRST POST.... and the great thing is that you have the ability to exact reveng when you get back online. Well SAS threatened to do the same thing. I have to say I don't blame 4S for doing it. CCP has really gone down hill recently. Between nerfing and then picking on one group of people I think they've lost their way. I've seen plenty of obscene character and corp names in game and CCP hasn't changed them. Ah right cause they spend allll there time just looking at account names and corp names.... have you actually petitioned any of those names? (if the petition system actually worked atm that is) Maximum signature size exceeded. Maximum size is 400*120 and 24000 bytes. - Teblin <--- Oops been a bad boy :D
ElweSingollo	Posted - 2005.11.09 02:04:00 - [4] Originally by: Great Guardian Edited by: Great Guardian on 09/11/2005 02:00:19 Edited by: Great Guardian on 09/11/2005 01:59:57 Originally by: VeNT no, your not reading this correctly, if some people started using ** slogans (apart from the fact they would be braking the law in germany therfore stopping EVEs distro in that region) it would be the same. 4S is nothing like NAZZZI slogan so please do your research... It has 1000+ years history and it was ALWAYS used among Serbs. Today 4S is official Serbian symbol. Saying that 4S is slogan is same like you say that every German is NAZZZI. Hmmm I suppose thats like saying the swastika is not a ** symbol cause it's actual origin is from an ancient Hindu symbol historically? Maximum signature size exceeded. Maximum size is 400*120 and 24000 bytes. - Teblin <--- Oops been a bad boy :D
ElweSingollo	Posted - 2005.11.09 02:35:00 - [5] Originally by: Great Guardian Edited by: Great Guardian on 09/11/2005 02:26:20 Edited by: Great Guardian on 09/11/2005 02:19:57 Originally by: ElweSingollo Originally by: Great Guardian Edited by: Great Guardian on 09/11/2005 02:00:19 Edited by: Great Guardian on 09/11/2005 01:59:57 Originally by: VeNT no, your not reading this correctly, if some people started using ** slogans (apart from the fact they would be braking the law in germany therfore stopping EVEs distro in that region) it would be the same. 4S is nothing like NAZZZI slogan so please do your research... It has 1000+ years history and it was ALWAYS used among Serbs. Today 4S is official Serbian symbol. Saying that 4S is slogan is same like you say that every German is NAZZZI. Hmmm I suppose thats like saying the swastika is not a ** symbol cause it's actual origin is from an ancient Hindu symbol historically? You really need a clue. Swastika was not part of German history until WW2. 4S was always part of Serbian history. As I said before 4S is TODAY symbol of Serbia and NO ONE serious has complained before. 4S = Only Unity Saves the Serbs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Only_Unity_Saves_the_Serbs Okay so what you are saying is that because it is historically significant and always has been to the serbs that means is should be considered untouched even though it was used by people who comitted war crimes? In that case tbh we may as well stop arguing cause we are never going to come to an agreement on that one . Maximum signature size exceeded. Maximum size is 400*120 and 24000 bytes. - Teblin <--- Oops been a bad boy :D
ElweSingollo	Posted - 2005.11.09 02:41:00 - [6] Originally by: Death Destruction Originally by: VeNT Originally by: Death Destruction Edited by: Death Destruction on 09/11/2005 02:25:25 Has anyone had any trouble with their character(s) since this unexpected reboot? I just logged back in, and one of my characters is missing 300,000 skill points and is no longer a member of my corp. (The login screen says everything in this reguard is ok). What is going on? Will clearing cache solve this, if so, how do i do it? He also now has 8 mill ISK than he had before the reboot. weird. petition it The petition page is giveing me an SQL error at the moment But you're right. If you can't petition I believe the Devs said to put it through the Ask a Question page cause the Petition sytem is borked atm. Linkage: http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=967&tid=1 Maximum signature size exceeded. Maximum size is 400*120 and 24000 bytes. - Teblin <--- Oops been a bad boy :D
ElweSingollo	Posted - 2005.11.09 04:19:00 - [7] Edited by: ElweSingollo on 09/11/2005 04:20:25 Originally by: bety yarr what i would like to point out is that CCP states there will be no which hunts on who caused the server crash, while their title of this post cleraly states that 4S corporation has something to do with it, while they are still investigating and have no proof!!!! clear double standards by CCP in claiming one thing while breaching the rules by them selves!!!!!! Umm no did you actually read Eris's first post Originally by: Eris Discordia Some of the nodes are down, a incident happend in Jita and the corporation mentioned above may play a part in this CCP and the GM's know what happend and are investigating it. Please leave it up to them to decide what needs to be done. If you insist on creating threads on this subject or replying to them the entire time you will be banned for 24 hours. Update one node and one proxy are the casualities it seems, this means some people can log in and many others cant. Ohh looky the words "may be involved" was used... I am sorry but when did "may have played a part" turn into "omgwtf 4s Corp PWNED Eve"? Maximum signature size exceeded. Maximum size is 400*120 and 24000 bytes. - Teblin <--- Oops been a bad boy :D
ElweSingollo	Posted - 2005.11.09 14:41:00 - [8] Originally by: bety yarr look to discriminate somebodys cultural symbols, and thats what 4S is , is a clear breach of UN convention on racism. now you say well thats what the UELA says and tuff, but it doesnt make it right, any rule that supports racism is wrong no matter. CCP lives in a Real world and there for cant use UELA rules to hide behind to discriminate against a group of ppl, you must remeber that UELA is just rules writen by game developers, while UN conventions were writen by world and accepted by world nations and we all have to abide by them. so UELA rules have no standing if they support racism. 4s is an internationaly accepted symbol by all countries in the world, and UN. so it is legal. for CCP to say it is offencive and in breach of UELA is total hughwash. Guess what CCP, YOU ARE IN BREACH OF UNATED NATIONS(UN) CONVENTIONS!!!!!! so lets stop pointing fingers and give the guys name back. there is no courage to denay you made a mistake, but courage is in admiting one and corectin it, that is the only way to harmony. Get a life it's only a game.... CCP are not descriminating here they have merely banned the name cause it was brought to there attention that the name "is in violation of the EULA" how unclear is that? When we play the game we agree to the EULA if you don't like it being enforced quit the game mate and take your subs fees to WOW. Oh and btw post with your main for goodness sake Alts FTL. Maximum signature size exceeded. Maximum size is 400*120 and 24000 bytes. - Teblin <--- Oops been a bad boy :D
ElweSingollo	Posted - 2005.11.09 15:37:00 - [9] Originally by: Avon Originally by: ElweSingollo CCP are not descriminating here they have merely banned the name cause it was brought to there attention that the name "is in violation of the EULA" how unclear is that? Except that CCP have worked in conjunction with 4S in the past, and so they were fully aware of the name prior to the petition, but felt no urge to change it then. Yes Avon but you are assuming that they knew exactly what 4S meant at the time they were working whith them I refer to Keirons on reply to his Devblog which rather suggest that until it was brought to there attention via petition they did not know the significance of it once they are made awar of that fact then by there own EULA rules they have to act on it. kieron 2005.11.08 16:02:31 The catalyst for 4S' name change came as the result of some web research. SAS has not been referred to in the documents of any war crime tribunals. 4S has been referred to in numerous war crime tribunal documents, associated with Radovan Karadzic and atrocities commited by those under his command. The survivors of that war have the right to not be reminded of what happened. Maximum signature size exceeded. Maximum size is 400*120 and 24000 bytes. - Teblin <--- Oops been a bad boy :D
ElweSingollo	Posted - 2005.11.09 16:11:00 - [10] Edited by: ElweSingollo on 09/11/2005 16:16:29 Originally by: Hllaxiu Originally by: ElweSingollo Originally by: Avon Originally by: ElweSingollo CCP are not descriminating here they have merely banned the name cause it was brought to there attention that the name "is in violation of the EULA" how unclear is that? Except that CCP have worked in conjunction with 4S in the past, and so they were fully aware of the name prior to the petition, but felt no urge to change it then. Yes Avon but you are assuming that they knew exactly what 4S meant at the time they were working whith them I refer to Keirons on reply to his Devblog which rather suggest that until it was brought to there attention via petition they did not know the significance of it once they are made awar of that fact then by there own EULA rules they have to act on it. kieron 2005.11.08 16:02:31 The catalyst for 4S' name change came as the result of some web research. SAS has not been referred to in the documents of any war crime tribunals. 4S has been referred to in numerous war crime tribunal documents, associated with Radovan Karadzic and atrocities commited by those under his command. The survivors of that war have the right to not be reminded of what happened. Should we enumerate the human rights violation of CCP? You know, the Chinese Communist Party? Totally different mate CCP stands for Crowd Control Productions whereas from what I have seen the 4S corporations arguments they are admiting that there corp name is a a reference to the nationalistic symbol of the Serbian people which has also been "dirtied" in the sense of it's use by people commiting war crimes. You are being simplistic in the extreme. Originally by: Avon Only the losers end up in war crimes tribunals. The point I was making is that the term "4S" is not generally considered offensive, otherwise CCP would have already picked up on it. It isn't like the SAS haven't had their fair share of criminal prosecutions. Umm can you detail me the list of war crimes tribunal's involving the SAS Avon if you are going down that route? Edit: Just reread what you are saying that is completely wrong at the moment Ariel Sharon [sp?] is being indited on war crimes your telling me he is a looser when he has the full backing of the US government? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1664443.stm Maximum signature size exceeded. Maximum size is 400*120 and 24000 bytes. - Teblin <--- Oops been a bad boy :D
ElweSingollo	Posted - 2005.11.09 18:57:00 - [11] Originally by: Avon Ah bollox to it. This account and a secondary account have now been cancelled. Can't see the point in paying for the Dev's beer, they don't deserve it. Tbh though I disagree with your stance in relation to this incedent I can't say that I would like you to cancel your accounts over something like this that being said it is your perogative. In regards to nationalistic symbols I have a Scotland flag in my BIO a nationalistic symbol if CCP tell me to change it cause it violates the EULA I aint goin to cry about it I am proud of my background however at the end of the day Eve is just a game and a game where we do not make up the rules. If you do cancel your accounts Avon gl in whatever ventures take you fancy if not well we will maybe see you around. Maximum signature size exceeded. Maximum size is 400*120 and 24000 bytes. - Teblin <--- Oops been a bad boy :D
ElweSingollo	Posted - 2005.11.09 21:33:00 - [12] Originally by: BillyBong2 Everyone needs to calm down on CCP. This was caused by a junoir GM that should have never done anything to the 4S name or SAS name. However, since that Junior GM was a freaking moron and didn't follow a process they just changed the names and brought down the wrath of the entire Eve community. CCP had a naming policy in effect but only enforced it on a limited basis, this is what got them in trouble. Now, they have this problem of some citizen from another country who is offended by that corp and they file a petition and without any regard to how long the corp had been in effect in the game the corp name is changed. What that idiot of a GM did was force CCP to look at each of the corps in question and measure it against the EULA that we all agree to. CCP was/is screwed either way. Whether we agree or disagree with how they handled it, they have specific guidelines for what a corp can and can not emulate. I was prepared and to war dec concord for changing the name of the corps as a way of RPing a protest. Here is the problem I have with all pf it, I could care less what they name their corp is/was, its a game. Umm just a slight discrepancy in regard to your statement a Juinor GM was indeed responsible for the SAS change however he/she was not responsible for the 4S name change that was taken by senior GM's and as the devblog says the desicion is final. Maximum signature size exceeded. Maximum size is 400*120 and 24000 bytes. - Teblin <--- Oops been a bad boy :D

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