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Niko Longhands	Posted - 2005.11.10 13:27:00 - [31] I try to look at PC pirates as just an extension of NPC pirates. I mean, just some power that makes low sec (more) dangerous, but also makes it a place only for stronger people. That's a challenge and an interesting competition. Kind of point of the game, I think. Some people say pirates ruin players' life in low sec, but that does not sound fair. If one cannot go agaist that kind of force, one can stay in high sec. As Tank CEO put it.. "buy a better ship.. don't go into a .4 .. be smart about it" or like that.
Istvaan Shogaatsu	Posted - 2005.11.10 16:31:00 - [32] This thread makes me glad I'm atheist. What horribly complicated lives you religious folks must lead.
Corvus Dove	Posted - 2005.11.10 19:40:00 - [33] Being Neo-Pagan myself, we believe two things that apply to this thread. 1: Whatever energy/intent/action you send out, you get back threefold or in multiplicate, and 2: When we die, we either come back as someone else or have whatever afterlife we make for ourselves (read,for me, EVE without Local chat....) SO with no hell to go to, and with the knowledge that the combat will bring more combat in an endless cycle, and making profit off of said combat in a good natured, laugh-up-the-slaughter fashion, I think I'm pretty much set. "You Griefer!!!" = "You Doodyhead!!!"
Garreck	Posted - 2005.11.10 20:14:00 - [34] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu What horribly complicated lives you religious folks must lead. Heh...I consider myself to be deeply religious, but I agree that a lot of "religious" people complicate things unneccessarily. The "greatest" commandments for a Christian are to love the Lord with all your heart, soul, mind and strength...and to love your neighbor as yourself. Understanding that Eve is a game, and a competitive one at that, I don't see how roleplaying as a pirate breaks either of these commandments. When I undock, I'm ready to get blown up at any moment, and I'm just as ready to DO the blowing up of someone else. It's a game. That said, Christianity is as much about conscience as it is rules and dogmas. If I were to find that my consistent "victimizing" of someone in-game was causing them undo emotional duress...yeah, I'd lay off. Of course, I'd also be thinking "jeeze, buddy, it's just a game..." Garreck Aku. Soku. Zan.
Kage Getsu	Posted - 2005.11.18 23:13:00 - [35] My ship, my character, my items, are all just database entries with an associated graphical asset. Same for those that belong to everyone else. People need to stop getting worked up over a change in some electrons sitting in a solid-state drive in some far away land!
Fade Routha	Posted - 2005.11.19 02:53:00 - [36] OMG I just podded (insert name here) i am going to hell!!!! If you get this feeling, or anything like while playing a game... STOP PLAYING.... really just that simple, never play a game that leaves you in moral quandry either that or i could stab you with a spoon
Drusty	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:16:00 - [37] TBH mate i am religous i do not find any implications that this game affects me in my RL personality. But the lose of a ship its just a game and i dont think piracy reflects a persons RL personality so it just a game. BTW YARRRR <-------------------------------------------------> The mighty always fall.... They well always fall before me.
Kumq uat	Posted - 2005.11.19 06:05:00 - [38] Hail to us Jewish pirates! If you see "The Hebrew Hammer" I suggest you run heh. Tired of mining the same looking rock for thousands of hours you care bear you? www.freeallegiance.org
Shamis Orzoz	Posted - 2005.11.19 06:51:00 - [39] I'll just repent on my deathbed But seriously...god is dead. I podkilled him last week.
Paxdrago	Posted - 2005.11.19 06:58:00 - [40] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz I'll just repent on my deathbed But seriously...god is dead. I podkilled him last week. I hear he is mortal now.... He forgot to buy a proper clone
Shamis Orzoz	Posted - 2005.11.19 07:07:00 - [41] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu This thread makes me glad I'm atheist. What horribly complicated lives you religious folks must lead. QFT
SugarDaddy	Posted - 2005.11.19 11:13:00 - [42] I am a religious person..... But someone have to play pirate here, otherwise the game would be gone. It¦s just agame.
Anfelina Adante	Posted - 2005.11.19 11:34:00 - [43] My hope is in our Good Father in heaven. So...this is just a game and what another person feels does not effect me. I feel that it is my duty to mind-my-own-business, unless asked.
xOm3gAx	Posted - 2005.11.19 16:13:00 - [44] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 09/11/2005 13:51:45 Well, I am doing it because others have done so on me. Best is, you are a completely new player, you will need to die a few times or perhaps need to be podded a few times as well. Then, you will turn bitter, sour and dark. Only then, a true killer you be. heh minus the poddings that sounds like my experiances when i was new to pvp and in the Curse Alliance back in the day. Kill or be killed! ----------------- Decloaks and starts blasting your sig Applesauce Biotch Ok who nerf batted my sig >again<? ^^Bows^^ ^^ALL HAIL THE UBERNESS OF Thee^^ Succumb to your nightmares Darkness
Tiffa Firestormer	Posted - 2005.11.19 16:52:00 - [45] Copy of The SIMS for the topic starter , Express delivery recommended .
Ekaterina Ignashova	Posted - 2005.11.19 19:35:00 - [46] Edited by: Ekaterina Ignashova on 19/11/2005 19:36:38 Originally by: Crazyfist But are there aspects in eve that can be related to real life, for example the destruction of other players ships. if i destroy a raven for example, if i wait at a gate and blow it up so i can take the resulting can of modules, does that have any connetations for a religious person here? I don't see what this has to do with religion, most religions claim you have to give up your life and free will to some deity and punish the unbelivers --- far more harsh than EVE griefers even. It has connections to the libertarian philosophy though -- but as stated, it's only a game and everyone enters it with eyes open and of free will. So anything is cool as long as it's within the intended game mechanisms. This game should fit like a glove with the anarcho-capitalist crowd though.
Rendill	Posted - 2005.11.19 21:14:00 - [47] We had a guy infiltrate our corp, and give our mining position to a merc corp we were at war with. We lost several bs's, haulers, barges etc. When we discovered him, turns out he was a PRIEST irl lol.... CEO
Firstname Lastname	Posted - 2005.11.19 23:53:00 - [48] Originally by: JoCool Most players in EVE are christians, so Allah thinks it's fine to ***and hunt them down allah akbarr allah akbahr Exactly how is it that I get banned for a week for posting a picture in a thread, yet you can post dumb, racist ** like this and nothing happens?
Wild Rho	Posted - 2005.11.20 01:56:00 - [49] The nearst my religon gets to pirating in eve is when I shout HOLY JEBUS A BASIC MINER!!!111 MINE! and a bout of team killing ensues to claim the prize.
Grant Smith	Posted - 2005.11.20 02:44:00 - [50] Originally by: JoCool Most players in EVE are christians, so Allah thinks it's fine to *****and hunt them down allah akbarr allah akbahr
Nakor Kren	Posted - 2005.11.20 06:07:00 - [51] well, first off id like too say that i don't think a religious discussion of any sort is really pertinent or useful on a rpg game. Secondly i think that a persons actions in game and the resulting effect as far as "religion" or any form of faith affecting thier daily actions and feelings are mainly based on a manner of the way they feel afterward...if a person feels as though they have violated a moral standard of thiers or thier personal religions...i believe they have....everyone knows right vs. wrong and it's all based on an inherant knowledge that we are born with. In summation, im a god fearing christian who attends and worships his faith wholeheartedly...but ill kill every last one of you in this game and i will laught the whole time im doing it. Check out my idea for a stock market
Shamis Orzoz	Posted - 2005.11.20 07:35:00 - [52] Originally by: Firstname Lastname Originally by: JoCool Most players in EVE are christians, so Allah thinks it's fine to ***and hunt them down allah akbarr allah akbahr Exactly how is it that I get banned for a week for posting a picture in a thread, yet you can post dumb, racist ** like this and nothing happens? I think he was bashing a religion, which doesn't make him racist, since people of many races practice Islam. I don't segregate though, I hate all religions.
Tariq Steel	Posted - 2005.11.20 10:33:00 - [53] I'm not religious at all but deeply spiritual due to being a student of Hapkido, a martial art. Eve is one helluva game. But like some people have said, you make some kind of moral decision in the game. I'm not a pirate simply because I don't like blowing people up for isk (especially when I know how hard they worked for it). Yet when attacked, I have no problem using deadly force for da mutha****** win! But I don't hate piracy in Eve. I respect the PC pirate force and make sure they respect me when the time comes.
Rutefly	Posted - 2005.11.20 12:16:00 - [54] Edited by: Rutefly on 20/11/2005 12:16:04 Reading these forums it mostly seems like only ebil smack-head scumbags play this game. This is not true though. Difference is, ppl who help a noob or two etc. dont have the same urge to come on eve-o to smack about it endlessly as much as morons who just wasted a couple of 3 day old players. (Variations may occur)

Jacques Archambault	Posted - 2005.11.20 15:06:00 - [55] The topic of religion has no place on the EVE-Online forms. Threads like this one most often turn into a flamefest and lead to a lot of different communities becoming offended. We'll have none of that thank you. click Jacques' forum rules \| [email protected]

Firstname Lastname	Posted - 2005.11.20 16:59:00 - [56] You forgot to lock the thread
Rat Hubble	Posted - 2005.11.21 08:29:00 - [57] Thou shalt not lock! The Capacitor is empty.
k starwind	Posted - 2005.11.21 10:13:00 - [58] this thread is to powerful to be locked
Corvus Dove	Posted - 2005.11.21 23:58:00 - [59] The Gods of EVE, apparently, have cast down your lock into the fiery pits of H3\|\|x0rz! The more CCP uses modules to resolve balance issues instead of systemwide rules, the more control CCP will have over how EVE works. CCP, please keep this in mind before swinging the nerfbat.
Butane Vein	Posted - 2005.11.22 00:42:00 - [60] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu What horribly complicated lives you religious folks must lead. Heh...I consider myself to be deeply religious, but I agree that a lot of "religious" people complicate things unneccessarily. The "greatest" commandments for a Christian are to love the Lord with all your heart, soul, mind and strength...and to love your neighbor as yourself. Understanding that Eve is a game, and a competitive one at that, I don't see how roleplaying as a pirate breaks either of these commandments. When I undock, I'm ready to get blown up at any moment, and I'm just as ready to DO the blowing up of someone else. It's a game. That said, Christianity is as much about conscience as it is rules and dogmas. If I were to find that my consistent "victimizing" of someone in-game was causing them undo emotional duress...yeah, I'd lay off. Of course, I'd also be thinking "jeeze, buddy, it's just a game..." I think that about sums it up. I myself in RL, have been raised with good morals, I'm a nice guy, generous, always lending a hand to my friends and vice-versa (don't buy a truck, you will find yourself helping people move on a regular basis). I started out in EVE of course mining like a bastard (and back then it was tedious compared to now). I mined with a Bantam and would dock and grab my hauler. I had purchased a Blackbird when I had enough isk (The Bird lasted less than 24H when the corp said hey lets go into 0.0, I know a good spot to mine rare minerals). You know what happened . I was pretty **ed, lots of time went into it. But on a good note I learned from this. So back to mining I went, got a thorax and minned again like a *** till I got my first BS a Dom. Needless to say that first whooping has kept me alive and full of isk since. Now I have put in my time staring at rocks, and damn me if I ever put on a mining laser ever again. I now profit from the labors of others and have embraced . This doesn't make me a bad person in RL, just a proffession I have taken up in a game. And I have been enjoying this game on a much different level. And thats what this games about, you have people who build, steal ore, bounty hunt, pirate ect... Pick your role, play how you want, your the one paying the monthly fee.

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