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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Kalhan on 07/08/2003 19:18:41
I was juat wondering what type of online game this is? To clear some things up. I don't have the box with me for I am at work but according to This Link it is a MMORPG, which stands for Massive Multiplayer Online RolePlaying Game. I was wondering if this is correct?
Is this a first person shooter like unreal torny? Or a statigy like Warcraft I II and III? or a RPG? I see alot of mods posting would we be able to get a response to clear this up?
Not flaming or complaining just curious. Plz take no Offence.
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Indesin
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:31:00 -
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It's a MMOG Massively Multiplayer Online Game. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Ywev
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:31:00 -
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I roleplay all the time, its just the other people that don't understand my roleplay abilities.
Pod ya later..
Ywev
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Die Harpie
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:36:00 -
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According to the EVE website and the EVE Box:
EVE: The Second Genesis, is a Massively Multiplayer, Online, Persistent world Game
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MMOPG or MMOPWG (if you include World)
There is no R in the title as Roleplaying only benefits the person roleplaying and their own personal enjoyment. In this game Roleplaying is pointless as it does nothing to advance you character and you get no real benefits from it whatsoever.
Outside of going "yarr yarr! Me be a pirate!" on the forums, of course.
Die Harpie
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:36:00 -
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Edited by: Kalhan on 07/08/2003 19:36:20
LOL but what type of MMOG? Unreal Torny is online and a Massive amout of players play the game online, and that one is a first person shooter..
And if it is nothing more then a MMOG then why do all the magizines and gamers sites catgorize it and a RPG or MMORPG???? Are those guys wrong? Are the advertizing the game wrong? I thought I bought a RPG.
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:40:00 -
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You can roleplay if you wish but it's not an essential component of the game. If I have that bit wrong then I bought the wrong game 
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Die Harpie
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:43:00 -
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Edited by: Die Harpie on 07/08/2003 19:43:48
Yes, my dear Amarrian Sister, they are all wrong <-- see roleplay (neat and useless). They assume that becuase it is a Massively Multiplayer Online Game that is has to be a Roleplaying game becuase all the other Massively Multiplayer Online Games are.
Not, UT2k3 is not a MMOPG becuase the maps end eventually and you can switch servers and all that stuff. Planetside is a FPS that is also a MMOG and some may do the Roleplay part of it but, I don't see why.
If CCP injected Racial stuff (besides showing us all who their obvious favorites are) then the Roleplaying aspect of ths game can actuall kick off.
But that opens up a whole new can of Slaver Slugs that I don't feel like going into.
Die Harpie
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Indesin
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:43:00 -
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LOL but what type of MMOG? Unreal Torny is online and a Massive amout of players play the game online, and that one is a first person shooter.. And if it is nothing more then a MMOG then why do all the magizines and gamers sites catgorize it and a RPG or MMORPG???? Are those guys wrong? Are the advertizing the game wrong? I thought I bought a RPG.
You are sorely mistaken. Unreal, Quake, Half-Life are online games... but not quite (laugh) MMOG's (max players in a server would be about 32 give or take). How did you confuse yourself? Look at your retail box, it says right above EVE - A Massively Multiplayer Online Game -
Of course, this doesn't mean you can't roleplay.
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Rembo
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:43:00 -
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Edited by: Rembo on 07/08/2003 19:44:30
It is a MASSIVE MULITPLAYER ONLINE ROLE PLAYING, STRATEGY, ACTION, SHOOTER, TACTICAL GAME... So far I think it fits any/all/none of those catagories. They did a great job with the structure. You can do anything, be about anything you want and as hardcore or casual as you want to be...
BUT this game takes more imagination than many that spoon feed you and cradle you. But is more rewarding in the end to ME. (personal opinion).
Zorakk 
Edit: Had wrong char check so it came up as Rembo..oh well.
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:44:00 -
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Of course why would they make roleplay a required part?? some people arn't very good at it or think it is silly. I'm just wondering if it is a RPG or not knowing full well that in any RPG you don't have to roleplay.
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Die Harpie
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:46:00 -
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MMORSASTG???
That actually may fit! It looks like it could be an Icelandic word... sorta.
Die Harpie
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zincol
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:46:00 -
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I roleplay all the time, its just the other people that don't understand my roleplay abilities.
LoL i like it  i like it
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:50:00 -
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Edited by: Kalhan on 07/08/2003 19:51:32
LOL Accually Indesin
I couldn't find any MMOGs that aren't catigorized as RPGs of MMORPGs, well at least I don't know of any(still looking). I saw on the Web about this MMORPG called Eve and that is how I got interested in it. I like RPG games.
You can roleplay in almost any game even unreal.
But there are some games designed for roleplaying inmind (that is why Gamer magizines put them under the CAT of RPG). Games that incourage it, that want you to. Not just say "oh its fun to roleplay here if you want"
Thats what I'm wondering is this an RPG? Not that it will keep me from playing it if it isn't a RPG I'm too addicted. Just wondering.
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Zorakk
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:53:00 -
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MMORSASTG???
That actually may fit! It looks like it could be an Icelandic word... sorta.
LOL... Did I create a new acronym?
Zorakk
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Redundancy
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:14:00 -
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I wonder if it would be possible to come up with a suitable acronym for MMOGTASTIC.
In my books trying to restrict yourself to labels and expectations isn't a good thing. If we thought that RPGlike character developement and sneaking couldn't be part of an FPS, we wouldn't have Deus Ex or a host of other very good games just because individual elements of them didn't compete at the same levels as dedicated games sitting right in the middle of a genre.
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Die Harpie
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:21:00 -
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Edited by: Die Harpie on 07/08/2003 20:22:27
MMOGTASTIC
Massively Multiplayer Online Gamers Turn Another
Simple Tactic Into Cheating
It fits.
I like EVE the way it is now, once content is added and, and racial situations begin, I will like it even more.
Die Harpie
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:23:00 -
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So what your saying is???? FPS???
So are those Magizines are wrong to catagorize it?
Should it just be under Online Game Genre and thats it. Or is that a perpose for the way it is designed that make it an RPG. Agian know that you don't have to roleplay, just that it is setup to encourage it.
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Die Harpie
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:27:00 -
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Edited by: Die Harpie on 07/08/2003 20:31:02
Everything is categorized these days, you can't escape that. I think CCP got it right with MMOPG becuase that is exactly what it is at it's most simplified level.
Break it down:
Massively Multiplayer: yes it is massive and it is multiplayer
Online: it is an online game only
Persistant World: EVE never sleeps, the level never ends
Game: Duh.
Roleplay if you want, you don't have to but you can and it makes it more fun for you, the individual player. Don't be caught up in what the magazines say, they are usually wrong anyway.
Die Harpie
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Cymoril
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:31:00 -
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I haven't seen a computer game, or console game, or video game of any kind, that is a role-playing game, with the possible exception of some of the old MUDs. They are CALLED role-playing games, but this is more of an evolutionary holdover than an actual description as to the way they are played.
In the early days of videogaming, some games were created that had some similarities to role-playing games. i.e. you generated a character, the character had attributes similar to the ones that were popular in the actual role-playing games of the day, the character advanced in levels, etc. But, the hardware of the days was far to primitive for them to be role-playing games. Yet, they were CALLED role-playing games just because they were kinda sorta similar to role-playing games. This misnomer stuck, and as the years passed, the name "RPG" was stuck on all kinds of games that aren't even remotely related to role-playing games. (Final Fantasy is a good example, Diablo is another.)
So, to answer your question, is Eve a role-playing game? Of course not. And CCP were wise enough to not put RPG or role-playing game anywhere on the box. However, neither is Eve a PK game, as would also be evidenced by the lack of mention of PKing on the box (piracy doesn't count, as piracy can mean a LOT of different things).
So what is it? It's a MMOG, just as they claim it is. If they let you PK, cosider it a bonus. If they let you role-play, consider that a bonus too. But, they don't HAVE to let you do either of those things. We would all do well to think about that before we come here whining about the lack of the ability to do either. |
Die Harpie
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:38:00 -
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I am loving this thread.. 
Now the problem is this, if this is not an RPG then why does CCP RolePlay the bugs? Which they do often. (lots of code - it'll happen)
Maybe to make it sound better than "Oops - we got us a buggered up server so, stay out of the following areas." I would prefer to hear that there is a strike going on or a broken Jumpgate, but, I know it's really a bug or a crash they are sorting out.
There will have to be some RP from CCP on the QT and ASAP when they introduce new tech items. Otherwise it would be a boring event. The Role Playing in thie game will have to be in response to the RP from the devs otherwise, it's all just blah blah blah like the non-cannon ST books. It's nice, but doesn't count and no one really cares.
Die Harpie
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Saffron
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:40:00 -
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I don't think eve is much of an action or shooter game. I think that Eve IS an RPG though.. Basically, take a standard MMORPG. It's just in a different setting.. Instead of mining a cliff, you mine asteroids. Instead of killing skeletons, you kill NPC pirates. Instead of buying a hammer and making armour at a forge, you rent a factory and manufacture stuff. Just because you dont run around in platemail hitting goblins with a mace doesn't mean it's not an RPG. Hardly anyone roleplays on MMORPG's anyway, unfortunately.
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Koinski
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:46:00 -
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This is a Game.
Just play it, dont call it names.
My favorite game ever is probably Jagged Alliance 2, i challenge aynone to cathegorize it without leaving something out.
Eve is pretty much the same.
Role Playing is quite inevitable because either you like it or not, you play a role in Eve.
If nothing else the role of the cathegory obssessed gamer.
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Tentimes
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:53:00 -
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What do you mean by saying this is all a game? What? What are you talkig about? Stupid fool.
How dare you say my life is a game.
Who let this guy in?
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Pann
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:59:00 -
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Eve's versatility allows you to either role play or not. And there is also the delicate difference between playing a role and role playing. You won't see people saying "thee and thine," buy you may hear insults like, "Your father was a holder, you Amarrian trog!"
There are events and opportunities for those who wish to roleplay. Those who wish to play a certain role can accomplish that. And those who think it's all goofy and hate RP in any form can avoid it.
Eve Community Manager
[email protected]
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Koinski
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Posted - 2003.08.07 21:14:00 -
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I guess i could avoid stating LIfe is a Game, but i didn't.
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Mynobe Soletae
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Posted - 2003.08.07 21:32:00 -
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Sigh, ok.
RPG: usually a game that involves you strengthening your character through multiple levels of xp, acquiring wealth and power, and interacting with computer-controlled actors called NPC's, and possibly other players. Death penalties are usually severe. Actually roleplaying your "character" is usually optional, especially in MMORPG games. EVE is this.
FPS: usually a game that's only about fighting others; players jump in, immediately acquire top equipment, and spend their time running around shooting everything that moves, to maximize their "frags" or "kills" number. Death penalties are light, and the avatar is not permanent.
Strategy: usually a game where the player controls a large number of avatars/units, like an army, while striving to acquire resources and weaponry which can immediately be used in conquest, to expand his or her controlled territory. The concept of death penalty doesn't apply, as the units are expendable and no one cares. The focus of the game is combat/conquest, and in a MMO setting, the player controlling the largest empire / number of NPC units "wins".
Flight/Combat simulator: Generally, a FPS game, but instead of using small arms in a planetary environment, the player controls some sort of fighter craft. Usually characterized by joystick controls, and a first person*****pit view. The purpose of the game is to fight/complete missions of increased difficulty.
EVE is a RPG because the point of the game is to grow your character's skills and wealth. It has elements of a space flight sim, because you can fly in space, but the user interface for it is optimized for a RPG not for a flight sim. It also has elements of strategy, since players can form corporations and empires, but then every MMORPG has that. |
Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.08.07 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Kalhan on 07/08/2003 21:41:48
Since you went off subjest and mentioned RP haters (not to mention any names) But I thought it was very unprofessional and offencive to go on a forum that is designed for Roleplayers and flame them calling them monkeys on a thread that oviously took a lot of time and effort into creating. Only to have some Nameless indevidual Post.....
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Ok i dont care about roleplay and i dont care about stupid jove tech.
I want to know from some offcial source (ie non roleplaying fool) where it came from and how they got hold of level 5 tech items.
This stinks and you guys are total idiots for posting this.
It is my personnal opinion that this RP flamer that has in many posts on and off the RP forum either Apoligize or be banned from the threads.
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Xailia
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Posted - 2003.08.07 21:46:00 -
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I had an acronym for EVE back on the old boards, I don't remember what it was exactly, but it was something along the lines of this:
Massively Multiplayer Online Spaced Based Persistant World Real Time Tactical Player vs Player Strategy Shooter with Optional Roll Playing Game Elements and Dynamic Player Controlled Market
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MMOSBPWRTTPVPSSORPGEDPCM
Or something like that...
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.07 21:50:00 -
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Most games aren't that easily categorised.
Tekken is a fighting game. Of this there is no doubt.
But at a high level it is a strategic battle of the minds.*
As far as RP in Eve goes, it's a personal decision. Because everyone plays post-earth humanoids, not too much RP is needed. If someone in local says they're going for a ****, you can take it as RP or not. It's up to you.
Personally, I RP as me. If that's not good enough for anyone, please let me know, and I'll make a point of not doing anything about it. 
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.08.07 21:56:00 -
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Sorry I didn't mean to get angry in that last post, but I was really really offended by him and I didn't even write the Thread he did that in. I do not think CCP will do anything to him its only my opinion. But...
These are all good arguments and it seems to me that people take it the way they want too and CCP left it broad to attrack more ppl. I like the roleplaying in it even though some people have to go and ruin it for others.
I was surprise more people didn't post saying that also thought it was a RPG.
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