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SkyLeach
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:45:00 -
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Its not only the mining laser.
For a while now Critical Mass enterprises has had Tech lvl 5 missiles. When we where alerted to the fact a member had hold of them, we where unsure what to do.. they where dropped fair and square after all. And previously people had items not supposed to be in game removed from them.
CME has not used these missiles in combat with PC players, we have talked to several corps about the issue before now probing for info regards these items, and have been told other corporations have similar items. items that have been ingame for sometime now too, what exactly people have i dont know, and have no way of knowing, thats for other people to find out who are able.
Anyway, the missiles will continue to be left mothballed until we are given the all clear to use them or sell/trade them. They arent actually all that good...
Heres a screenshot, i have left the whole screenshot intact and transparency on the windows to reduce the amount of "fake" cries. We have no reason to fake such a thing, or gain anything from publically admiting to ownership. other than maybe the all clear to use them from the powers that be. The only edits on the window are: station info, ship name, and player identity who took the piccy.
*flame retardent jockstrap on*
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:47:00 -
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Ya i have heard of quite a few L5 Missiles that dropped as pirate loot for a short time.
I never got any though
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Doc Brown
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:49:00 -
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SkyLeach, thank you for being upfront and honest.
CCP, do you have an answer?
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zincol
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:49:00 -
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This is crapwhy is tech5 gear coming out to only certain peeps when tech 2 isnt totaly out yet what happened to tech 3 and 4? WTF is going on??
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Halo Jones
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:51:00 -
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er, tbh lookign at the stats of the lvl5 missiles.... they suck ass
tremendous amounts of ass, these missiles are no better than many already in game... and tbh being missiles I am sure they hit each other before they hit the target ;)
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MrGold
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:51:00 -
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it just gets better and better........
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zincol
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:53:00 -
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still not the point it is still better than a normal light missle tech 1...and why is it in game hmmm???
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Buttercup
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:56:00 -
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a tech lv5 missle bp droped within 3 weeks of release... stop crying about "special" corps.
thanks for owning up to having it.
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SkyLeach
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Posted - 2003.08.07 19:56:00 -
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Edited by: SkyLeach on 07/08/2003 19:59:21
Halo.. missiles arent all about damage PER missile, theres also the volume factor to be taken into acount. imagine if Heavy missiles where found that had a volume of 1m3. now go shove a load of them in rocket launchers fitted on say... a Raven. 
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Halo Jones
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:00:00 -
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ahh skyleach good point
i see what u mean, but i would think that the lvl5 missles even if light will eventually provide more damage than this
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SkyLeach
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:12:00 -
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Well, they did use to do 90hp dmg a hit, but got nerfed. 
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Thesiuss
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:20:00 -
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They may actually not be tech lvl 5 missiles. If I recall correctly I remember seeing in some patch notes where ccp started that something listed in game as being tech 2 was actually tech 1 and that it would be corrected.
So maybe the same holds true for those missile.
Just a thought.
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SkyLeach
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:24:00 -
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If that where the case, then everyone who has had Piranhas would have noticed them change their name to Piranha V (tech lvl 5) and associated skills too.
These missiles are STILL in our hangar, 1000 can be seen in that shot, 250 on the left.. 750 on the right. Are your Piranhas called "Piranha V" ??
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:29:00 -
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... Do i understand correctly these drop from NPC pirates?.. If so, that sounds just like really messed up loot table. *shrugs* I believe they'll be taking look at it either this or next week, so you might want to simply report it as a bug... o.o
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SkyLeach
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:34:00 -
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No, a blueprint was dropped. we arent in possesion of that print, and im not sure if the origional owner is either. Whatever.. the missiles are still here. CME did not purchase the missiles or a copy of the print, a member did prior to joining us. The missiles have been in our hangar now for some time.. so long i had forgot about them, till this laser lark came up.
Anyway, imagine you killed a pirate or looted some can in space.. found a tech lvl 2 battleship print or a jove ship print and CCP deleted it.. how would you feel? come on now.. be honest!
the item dropped fair and square .. right
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:48:00 -
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"Anyway, imagine you killed a pirate or looted some can in space.. found a tech lvl 2 battleship print or a jove ship print and CCP deleted it.. how would you feel? come on now.. be honest!
the item dropped fair and square .. right?"
There's explanation of the missiles issue in the other thread... it seems like the blueprint was in the end removed, while the missiles themselves can be 'fairly' used ...
How it'd feel to have lvl.2 blueprint for some uber-ship deleted?.. would suck, simple... although given i probably couldn't resist gloating about such loot on the forum, would at least get the 'fifteen minutes of Eve fame' out of it... ;>
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.07 20:56:00 -
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How can you temporarily forget tech level 5 items in your hangar?
That's like flying around in an Ibis for 3 weeks then slapping your forehead, "D'oh, I forgot I have a Scoropion to fly".
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SkyLeach
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Posted - 2003.08.07 21:04:00 -
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lol Josh
no seriously i had, they where sat in another hangar at a different station ot the one we use and we have been so busy with getting the Apocalypse print, fighting with certain corps and forging alliances that they where forgotten about, as halo pointedout.. they arent all that special, i mean look at the stats? Tech 5 HEAVY missiles, now thats something id love.
if it is correct and the items are free to use then thankyou for informing me.. however do you have a link to where CCP have said this?
I expect the tech 5 piranhas will be much beter than these anyhow when tech 5 comes into game properly, i think these may have been nerfed incase any where out in the wild like the ones we own.. or maybe not you never know.
if not it will dispel some peoples ideas about higher tech levels.. if so then it would explain why a tech lvl 5 is so "uber" and the tech 5 missiles (light) arent MUCH beter in the case of these piranhas.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.08.07 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 07/08/2003 21:12:35
"if it is correct and the items are free to use then thankyou for informing me.. however do you have a link to where CCP have said this?"
Last post on the page; note it's not exactly official, though...
edit: there's also mention on the 5th page of that thread now, with more detail.
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2003.08.08 02:17:00 -
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"How can you temporarily forget tech level 5 items in your hangar?"
Tech level V crap is still crap.
My 150 rail guns hit as hard as my light missiles. And instantly. And far faster. And for far cheaply. And far more reliably.
Forgetting you have Tech level 5 light missiles in your hanger is like forgetting you have a 75mm gatling GUASS gun in your hanger. Who really cares? :D
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BSOD
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Posted - 2003.08.08 13:38:00 -
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No, a blueprint was dropped. we arent in possesion of that print, and im not sure if the origional owner is either. Whatever.. the missiles are still here. CME did not purchase the missiles or a copy of the print, a member did prior to joining us. The missiles have been in our hangar now for some time.. so long i had forgot about them, till this laser lark came up.
Anyway, imagine you killed a pirate or looted some can in space.. found a tech lvl 2 battleship print or a jove ship print and CCP deleted it.. how would you feel? come on now.. be honest!
the item dropped fair and square .. right
I remember when this originally came about.
The owner got the Lv5 BP off of a pirate drop. He made no attempt to hide it, and even started selling missles for a while.
Once the devs found out, they notified him that the BP drop had been improperly flagged. The Piranha V BP was changed to a Piranha I BP, but the owner was allowed to keep any Lv5 missles he had already produced.
I guess he just kept them around for a rainy day/as a trophy. Piranha Vs that you can't replace are useless compared to a Nibelung miner. :)
The BP drop happened 2-3 weeks after release and was fixed within days.
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.08.08 18:00:00 -
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InfiniCorp had a Piranha V blueprint in the early weeks of Live. And yes the stats sucked bigtime.
I think they got it from a Convoy. They made a batch of them, but ofcourse at that time nobody was actually able to fire them.
Then somebody left the corp and with him a lot of missiles were gone, possibly these are some of them, gone through many different hands (since nobody can fire them ofcourse).
Later I learned that a GM had discovered the print and has removed it from the corp hanger, since he said they weren't supposed to be in the game yet.
CCP, makes missiles the most powerful yet expensive weapons again, as they are supposed to be!
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