Why should it be easier to avoid PVP?

What? Camping people into a nullsec station is an exploit?

Biomass yourself. Now.

Although I am of the strong opinion that station camping is not an exploit I fully endorse this idea. If someone needs to get out of a station, they will do it with alts and instaundocks. It would be nice not to need to use alts, or have to prebook mark spots. The main reason for this though would be that is pisses me off seeing ships half inside each other at undock.

We need either 2 exits from a station or a darn camera that shows us what's going on outside.

-1 for outside camera

too easy ;-)

@Nolak Ataru: From an immersion perspective I'd say Windows in CQ (but then who actually uses CQ?) so that you can look out.

@Engineer Squiffy: Why do you say "too easy". I can imagine what you are referring to but I'd like to know your thoughts.

Thanks for the comments and discussion.

Have you ever been stucked hours inside a station being camped?
With proper intel, there is no need to see what's outside station. If you have bad intel, maybe you get stucked.

Have you ever felt to undock and use invuln. grace to see yourself what's outside?
A window would definitely kill the thrill.

I like multiple exit points, though. Why not a queue per exit? Jita 4-4 could even be quiet! :-)

I didn't take the time to read posts beyond page 1 so if this is a repeat comment sorry, but I do agree it's a real pain getting out of jita 4-4 even when your not a target for either gank or whoever has declared war. In order to make it a tad more fair, only use seperate undockings in High population systems and/or the stations with high undocking where scotty determines ok we have 50+ people undocking in the last 5-10 minutes turn on undocking port #2 so half of the traffic going out goes out in a specific different direction and/or at a higher or lower elevation from the original undocking port. just my 2 cents.

What you are suggesting is a load balancing exit

I'd like instead to have e.g. 4 exit doors (exit gates?) and to choose which I want to exit from.

For example: station camped, you and your friends form up to exit from a specific exit, which may lead you so some advantages knowing the station type, shape and orientation (e.g. outside pos? sun? system gate?).

More: maybe your enemies can't outnumber you to all exits, leaving you a secondary exit... If you also usually live in certain stations you have your insta warp bookmarks ready to save you. Or you can use them to insta warp and warp back at your optimal to start kill.

I think there are hundered of possibilities and tactics we could benefit.

Now that's an interesting spin on this idea...I need to think about that but good work there Mr Squiffy. I wouldn't want to break "Station Games" however but if you could spice it up a little for both sides then I'd be behind that.

This is a stealth nerf to instaundocks. You just nerfed blockade runners to hell. Congratulations.

Really? Please tell me how this idea\suggestion nerfed Blockade Runners?

He might be referring to the practice of making a bookmark that is pre aligned to the ship as it exits, allowing that ship to instantly warp away.

It requires preparation, and the reward is you are not stuck aligning or slow boating out before aligning.

To solve this, I would suggest some form of player control over which undock is used, so a player can choose to use the exit which aligns with a pre made bookmark like this.

The undocking bay could also be selected by the next System in the Autopilot if you have one set whereby Docking Control will release you on the side facing the stargate you require. If no System is set in Autopilot then you are cleared to undock via the default (current undocking port) undocking port.

Hi Nikk, from Post #1 I did add this orginally:



I hope that this clears it up. I also use insta-undocks and wouldn't want to affect these hence why I added this into my OP.

Have you ever been stucked hours inside a station being camped?
With proper intel, there is no need to see what's outside station. If you have bad intel, maybe you get stucked.

Have you ever felt to undock and use invuln. grace to see yourself what's outside?
A window would definitely kill the thrill.

I like multiple exit points, though. Why not a queue per exit? Jita 4-4 could even be quiet! :-)