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BoSau Hotim
Whale Whatchers
5382
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Posted - 2013.06.13 08:59:00 -
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No, it's not bad manners.
Think of it. Warp to belt, see roids on overview, lock onto the ones closest to you and mine. Do you check every asteroid you have locked onto to make sure no one is mining it? If you are you are wasting valuable time. Losing time means losing isk. I doubt many people actually look for the one rock that another miner is mining and then choose that one rock to target. They just lock onto what is closest, and if someone else happens to be mining it that doesn't mean that they are claim jumping as no one can claim rights to any one belt (well, officially that is). As soon as their closest rocks are gone, then they move onto the next.
Occasionally someone will harass you and then you have many suggestions above on how to deal with that.
EvE is a harsh environment that is somewhat akin to the old days in the wild west in America - I suggest that you find a good corporation to join, one with Orca support and voice chat. Makes the game more enjoyable IMO.
Happy mining, glad some like to do it as I hate it with a passion :)
*GLOMP* with your AltGäó-á |
BoSau Hotim
Whale Whatchers
5382
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Posted - 2013.06.13 09:08:00 -
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Felicia Tennyson wrote:@ OP
Welcome to Eve, and it's unfortunate to see that you have encountered those who were KS roids.
tbh, most replies here I see as more sarcastic than helpful.
It was however, a bad manner for completely ignoring your msg, considered you have tried to be civil (I assume)
First rule after the first rules of Eve is that when anything (including your own clone) undocks and enters space, it's not considered yours anymore unless it's in your hanger or in terms of yourself, in station.
Prior to the changes made to mining barge changes, it is rather easy to suicide gank with high success, but I wouldn't consider in my personal experience, that nowadays, with even a medicore fit mining barge, you'll be able to solo catagank anyone. That was from a victim of multiple "attempted gank" experience, not that I've ever tried to suicide ppl yet though I'd love to do that one day, but those buffs to mining barges now hardly makes it worthwhile so far as even with a success run, I'll probably end up losing more than I gained, unless 'that' possible drop of tear is worth more than I have imagined (one day it might...one day).
Of course, as you haven't mentioned what ship that roid KS'er is flying, if he is in anything that is not properly fitted or other mining ships that have poor EHP, go on and blow him up if you really feel the necessity to say...teach him a lesson of manners.
*PS
It is intended mechanic that, there exists this type of scenario, as it potentially leads to conflicts - and perhaps violent ones. That's what devs want in Eve as well as what many players want! More ships blowing up!
once again, welcome to New Eden!
P.S. while the above poster believes it is bad manners to ignore your message, this poster assumes that there are "In-game morals" that everyone playing EvE should live by, and if they do not live by his/her morals then someone has bad manners. This is not so. This is not the real world, this is a game and you can choose to play the game within it's intended framework how you wish. It does not necessarily mean they are bad people with bad manners. :)
*GLOMP* with your AltGäó-á |
Haramir Haleths
Nutella Bande
4
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Posted - 2013.06.13 10:57:00 -
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Maybe he like you and want to be near you and he was to shy to answer in chat. |
Humera Hekard
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.13 10:58:00 -
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Effect One wrote:Humera Hekard wrote:Inokuma Yawara wrote:I'm new to EVE....blah, blah, blah, I am whiny and want to make isk without risk... F**k you and excuse the rant/roidrage. EVE is a sandbox. When I mine I am don't give a damn about if you are mining from a from a rock in space. My sole purpose is to gather as much resources as possible in a short a possible a time and if that means I am mining from the same rock as you, then go call the waaaaaaaaambulance or something. As far as I am concerned it is just PvP in another form (save the blatantly obvious one of shooting at other players). Besides, have you paid your mining fee? I'm going to find and gank you.
Yes, It would be my pleasure.  |
Humera Hekard
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.13 11:02:00 -
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Anti-social Tendencies wrote:Humera Hekard wrote:Ok, so no rant/roidrage this time.
The point I was trying to make was that in all fairness I found the OP to be naive, which I guess is OK being new to the game, or perhaps not since I reckon you have to do your "homework" on this kind of MMO before playing it. Jumping in is all well and good but not recommended. EVE is so vast in terms of what you can do, but also quite harsh in terms of its player base. Take a walk into low and null and you will find people who will not hesitate to blow up your ship and your pod. If you reckon this too to be bad manners then you have come to the wrong "party".
My [sarcasm=true] rant [/sarcasm] was more along the lines of he or she might expect from a decent amount of players. Not everyone is willing to be nice, courteous or respect you in any way shape or form regardless if you are new or old to the game. Everyone has an agenda and the results of player interaction dictate very much what direction your time in EVE takes.
I have landed in belts with my orca + miners and have been met with many different forms of curse words or other personal attacks simply because I will proceed to vacuum a belt empty before a solo miner can put any sizable dent in it. The most you will get from me is perhaps small talk at some civil level but other than that I am in the belt to gather as much resources in as short a time as possible and be done with mining for the remainder of my playing session.
And yes it is my opinion that other miners be damned and if they reckon it to be bad manners then they have perhaps misunderstood the nature of the game - "eat or be eaten". When my crew suck up a belt with a mining fleet, yeah we don't care if there is anyone else there. That wasn't the situation for the OP however. Two miners in a large belt don't need to shooting the same rock.
True, just making the point that nothing in space is technically "yours" in any manner, shape, way or form when you hit the undock button. Sure, someone might be trolling you for ***** and giggles or simply baiting you.
Firstly (and I think it has been said already) is that if you consider it to be bad manners then that is born out of your own code of morals and ethics.
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
818
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Posted - 2013.06.13 11:37:00 -
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the rocks don't belong to anyone till they are in your cargo hold
This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices
Petition Blizzard
285
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Posted - 2013.06.13 11:45:00 -
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Humera Hekard wrote:
True, just making the point that nothing in space is technically "yours" in any manner, shape, way or form when you hit the undock button.
Apart from POSes, white cans, SOV, Outposts etc
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |
Peaches Anne Creme
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:24:00 -
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A bit late, but...
Quote:Also, never kill your enemy in front of his family, thats the wrong way around and just breeds stupid martyrs.
Simple. Just pod the family too. |
Norian Lonark
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
78
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:43:00 -
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I would say its bad manners, but as others have said its up to the individual how they play. Others like doing things just to annoy you, or he may not have noticed you were mining the same rock.
If you want to mine in peace, maybe try and find a more remote place to mine.
Just don't let it annoy you too much remember its just a game |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
251
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:44:00 -
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You had no claim so it can't be jumped. |
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