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Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:48:00 -
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I'm new to EVE, so I don't know if claim jumpers are viewed in a poor light or whatnot. I was mining an asteroid, and some other miner started mining the rock I was on. Is that considered bad manners?
In other games it's considered bad manners to gather resources someone else is working on, but this is EVE, where even piracy is encouraged, and thus the question is posed.
I tried to message the miner, but was refused communications.
What should I make of all this? |
Riot Girl
Thundercats
The Initiative.
993
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:51:00 -
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Yes it's very bad manners, I'd be quite angry if someone mined my rock. Also miners don't like player interaction which is why he refused your message. One way to deal with him is to force him to interact with a blaster catalyst.
Oh god. |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices
Petition Blizzard
176
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:52:00 -
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Inokuma Yawara wrote:I'm new to EVE, so I don't know if claim jumpers are viewed in a poor light or whatnot. I was mining an asteroid, and some other miner started mining the rock I was on. Is that considered bad manners?
In other games it's considered bad manners to gather resources someone else is working on, but this is EVE, where even piracy is encouraged, and thus the question is posed.
I tried to message the miner, but was refused communications.
What should I make of all this?
It happens all the time.
You have several options;
1) Shrug and say "theres plenty of rocks in space, its no biggie" and move on
2) Growl to yourself, rant in local, and change system to be away from them
3) Declare the belt as yours and declare Wars on any other mining corp who dares touch your rocks
4) Find out where his base is and hire some mercenaries to kick his door in in the middle of the night, drag him out of bed, tie him to the docking ring and have his entire family ejected into space in front of him as a warning that subhuman filth like him should think twice about messing with you.
Also, never kill your enemy in front of his family, thats the wrong way around and just breeds stupid martyrs.
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |
Nagamor
Los Diablos Blancos
Zion Innovations
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:53:00 -
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My understanding is that it's rude to mine the same rock.
Though there isn't much you can do about claim jumpers or bot miners outside of piracy. That being said, piracy opens so many doors. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
1128
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:17:00 -
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Every miner who isn't you is your competition
Focus less on etiquette and more on his crimes against your wallet |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1992
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:25:00 -
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Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you."
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
RomeStar
Empire Investments Logistics
174
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:27:00 -
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How about a mechanic that wont let more than one player lock a roid. It would make ice mining more interesting aswell.
Signatured removed, CCP Phantom |
Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
758
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:31:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:How about a mechanic that wont let more than one player lock a roid. It would make ice mining more interesting aswell.
What a dumb suggestion. Five days w/o internets and I come back to this. 
Fake edit: oh, I forgot - it's the EVE-O forums. nvm |
Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami
The Cursed Few
396
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:38:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you."
This post wins.
"Never rub another man's rhubarb." -Joker in Batman (Jack Nicholson)
Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you." -Abrazzar
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Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
Villore Accords
102
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:41:00 -
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EVE is harsh. Deal with it. Don't like it? Find another MMO, or just do what several people have suggested - get a gank Catalyst and blow the guy up. |
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Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle
Tactical Narcotics Team
966
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:53:00 -
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WOW, mining the same 'roid is considered "bad manners" You're in for one ******* hell of a surprise if you plan on staying for a long time.
I'm not entirely clear on the point of this, but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner.
Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall
I'm half expecting a ban for this post. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle
Tactical Narcotics Team
967
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:58:00 -
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Actually I was half expecting you to rabble on about someone calling you a ******* or a ******* ****** in local, maybe posting links to pron.
But, yeah...mining the same 'roid...
Where /exactly/ do you mine again? ( see signature for hint to a future "event")
I'm not entirely clear on the point of this, but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner.
Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall
I'm half expecting a ban for this post. |
Arec Bardwin
963
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:58:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:How about a mechanic that wont let more than one player lock a roid. It would make ice mining more interesting aswell. Supported.
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I Need PLEX
State War Academy
Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:02:00 -
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Inokuma Yawara wrote:I'm new to EVE, so I don't know if claim jumpers are viewed in a poor light or whatnot. I was mining an asteroid, and some other miner started mining the rock I was on. Is that considered bad manners?
In other games it's considered bad manners to gather resources someone else is working on, but this is EVE, where even piracy is encouraged, and thus the question is posed.
I tried to message the miner, but was refused communications.
What should I make of all this?
I would suggest you report the offender to the player James 315. He runs an alliance that polices miners and makes sure that these miscreants are not behaving badly such as what happened to you. His organization is The New Order: alliance ticker CODE.
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Darvaleth Sigma
Progressive State
State Section 9
299
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:05:00 -
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Depends who got their first and what you're mining with. If you're on Strip Miners and not much is left in the rock, it'll be a very tense game of Russian roulette... who's going to cash out first...
Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.
Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life! |
Spurty
V0LTA
Verge of Collapse
880
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:08:00 -
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I loved this band.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6fQnTyEniM
Lip up fatty, or as EVE players know it best HTFU
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GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥
GÇò Philip K. **** |
Humera Hekard
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:10:00 -
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Inokuma Yawara wrote:I'm new to EVE....blah, blah, blah, I am whiny and want to make isk without risk...
F**k you and excuse the rant/roidrage. EVE is a sandbox.
When I mine I am don't give a damn about if you are mining from a from a rock in space. My sole purpose is to gather as much resources as possible in a short a possible a time and if that means I am mining from the same rock as you, then go call the waaaaaaaaambulance or something. As far as I am concerned it is just PvP in another form (save the blatantly obvious one of shooting at other players).
Besides, have you paid your mining fee? |
Seven Koskanaiken
Nothing Is True Everything Is Permitted
196
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:10:00 -
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In eve, if you can grab it and hold on to it, it's yours, and its every man for himself. It's like musical chairs but everyone has a flamethrower. |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites
United Federation of Commerce
908
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:11:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:In eve, if you can grab it and hold on to it, it's yours, and its every man for himself. It's like musical chairs but everyone has a flamethrower.
a flamethrower, chainsaws and several ICBM's.
[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
ain't that right |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices
Petition Blizzard
178
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:14:00 -
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Humera Hekard wrote:Inokuma Yawara wrote:I'm new to EVE....blah, blah, blah, I am whiny and want to make isk without risk... F**k you and excuse the rant/roidrage. EVE is a sandbox. When I mine I am don't give a damn about if you are mining from a from a rock in space. My sole purpose is to gather as much resources as possible in a short a possible a time and if that means I am mining from the same rock as you, then go call the waaaaaaaaambulance or something. As far as I am concerned it is just PvP in another form (save the blatantly obvious one of shooting at other players). Besides, have you paid your mining fee?
Lol WTF is wrong with you?
It was a simple question from a noob.
Now pick up your little toys, put them back in your little pram and we wont say anything more about your ridiculous outburst, m'kay?
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Lexmana
1002
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:15:00 -
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There is a great sketch with a swedish comedian playing wow where someone ninjaed the loot. He yelled some at the ninja and was then asked by the interviewer if there was anything he could do about it. Answer was: No.
In EVE there are several things you can do. Be creative ... you can even bump him :)
Too bad it is in swedish but here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIhcL8K4shg |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14726
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:23:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:There is a great sketch with a swedish comedian playing wow where someone ninjaed the loot. He yelled some at the ninja and was then asked by the interviewer if there was anything he could do about it. Answer was: No. In EVE there are several things you can do. Be creative ... you can even bump him :) Too bad it is in swedish but here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIhcL8K4shg
Hilarious 
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
84
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:34:00 -
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Just one word mate
PIXELS
Nuff said
I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
Humera Hekard
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:46:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Humera Hekard wrote:Inokuma Yawara wrote:I'm new to EVE....blah, blah, blah, I am whiny and want to make isk without risk... F**k you and excuse the rant/roidrage. EVE is a sandbox. When I mine I am don't give a damn about if you are mining from a from a rock in space. My sole purpose is to gather as much resources as possible in a short a possible a time and if that means I am mining from the same rock as you, then go call the waaaaaaaaambulance or something. As far as I am concerned it is just PvP in another form (save the blatantly obvious one of shooting at other players). Besides, have you paid your mining fee? Lol WTF is wrong with you? It was a simple question from a noob. Now pick up your little toys, put them back in your little pram and we wont say anything more about your ridiculous outburst, m'kay?
Better he learn the nature of EVE quickly rather being coddled and babied with. WTF, stop being a pansy with the noobs. |
Iosue
Black Sky Hipsters
195
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:49:00 -
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this is commonplace. though both the motives and solution vary.
if there's only one other person in a full belt and they are mining your roid, chances are they're trolling you. solutions for this may include wholesale destruction of the entire solar system; we'll refer to this as the nuclear option henceforth. another approach would be to move to a different roid or system.
if a group comes in with a fleet of exhumers and vacuums up everything in site, including your roid, don't take it personally. you still have the nuclear option, but would probably benefit from moving several systems away.
in either case, don't get your panties in a bunch. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
4437
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:52:00 -
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If you think somone else shooting your rock is bad..wait until someone starts shooting your ship. I bet then youll wish they were only shooting your rock still.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
Somethin Awfull Forums
406
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:59:00 -
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EVE is one of the few games where language barriers don't get broken up by servers. It's possible he doesn't speak english. That might not excuse the behavior but it could explain ignoring you.
Of course they may have been a macro. I don't know.
On the topic of manners and conduct though, any time I enter a new system or set of systems, I pay attention to local. In a few days I can find out who is local and who isn't. For all you know, this guy might have been mining that system for 2 years, put up with 'noobs' time after time. You need to understand, EVE doesn't see many true new players. They see a lot of Alts. To him you were just another alt testing the system for some war dec griefing.
There is another option. One I'm not very fond of but in truth it works. Approach him at high speeds. "Bump" him. Do it often. Keep doing it. Try and push him away from the rocks he is targeting. It's a very shoddy mechanic and it's very annoying.
R.I.P. Vile Rat |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics
CODE.
315
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Posted - 2013.06.10 20:00:00 -
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Hi there new friend! It's nice to see more people being concerned with proper mining etiquette in highsec.
If you find yourself among more hooligans, I recommend you report your exact location to any member of The New Order, and we shall ensure the noncompliant miscreants are swiftly dealt with.
Prior to doing this, however, I would recommend that you study The New Halaima Code of Conduct, to prevent any embarrassing noncompliant mining on your part.
Have fun, and welcome to EVE!
Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4252
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Posted - 2013.06.10 20:00:00 -
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Inokuma Yawara wrote:I'm new to EVE, so I don't know if claim jumpers are viewed in a poor light or whatnot. I was mining an asteroid, and some other miner started mining the rock I was on. Is that considered bad manners?
In other games it's considered bad manners to gather resources someone else is working on, but this is EVE, where even piracy is encouraged, and thus the question is posed.
I tried to message the miner, but was refused communications.
What should I make of all this?
That was very rude.
EvE ettiquette demands that he allow you full access to your roid until your cargo is full, and then suicide gank you for an even chance at gaining all your ore and salvage.
I'd consider filing a petition.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Lord Ryan
Donkey Hats
793
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Posted - 2013.06.10 20:00:00 -
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I don't see why you can't share the rock than move on to the next one when that one is depleted. It's not like a drop with one item. The rock has thousands of units of little value. And a duplicate rock right next to it. Not to mention when the goons show up they might nuke the other guy nstead of you.
Do not assume-áanything above this line-áwas typed by me.
Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
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