Anyone actually go through the trouble of bug reporting this? It's great to post it on the forums, but without a bug report, it's not likely to get looked at.

But you can go from +10.00 to -10.00 if they so decide.

Grinding standing back to 6,67 or higher is easy with NPC corp. You can't grind your standing up with player corp.

That's a legitimate gripe I guess.


"Legally" just means CONCORD won't intervene. Do you get a standings hit on the ship kill, or just the pod kill? As far as I know, CCP has never encouraged pod killing in high sec. You can do it without CONCORD intervention under certain circumstances, but that doesn't mean there won't be other consequences. If you do it to a player in a player corporation, you'll earn that corporation's ire. If the player is in an NPC corporation, that's simulated by standings. Seems pretty reasonable (though yes, it probably should have been mentioned in patch notes if that's a substantial change from previous mechanics).

Hint: If you want to be taken seriously, engaging your critics goes a lot farther than namecalling.

Funny thing is, no one's done that.


This is a thread about consequences of podkilling in highsec. If you want to discuss that, great. If you just want to use it as an opportunity to rehash the "NPC corps are too easy" argument, dredge up one of the dozens of other threads about that.

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it's not just pod kills that cause npc and starter corp standing hits and hell it happened to me back in 2010 and neither target was in faction warfare.

the pod was infact a courier mission bot that came into low sec.

also a rhea i helped the alliance kill caused a npc corp standing hit.

it didnt hurt me but i can see how this is annoying the sec hit + a huge standing hit if i had spent enough time in low i have what ever the max tax is at refining/trading in high and low sec stations.

in the long run lagit engagement or gank it is gonna hurt if u kill enough pods cause seriously who checks to see if their in a npc corp or not ?

i dont mind a penalty for pod killing but dont make it so i have to go broke to refine/sell/repair not to mention what was mentioned earlyer Encouraging players to hide in npc corps

Can anyone confirm that ship kills are giving NPC standings hits these days? If so, I guess I agree that's a little lame.


Eh, for pods I don't have a lot of sympathy. Honestly, I think pod killing in general (outside null/WH) should have more consequences. It should really mean something to pod someone... an act of sacrifice to say "screw you" to someone who's really pissed you off. As it is, podding has become such standard procedure that it's just an impersonal flash of epeen.

And that's your choice. I'm certainly not saying podding should be disallowed, but as is the mantra in Eve, actions have consequences. You have nothing in particular to gain from podding someone, so you have a choice: do it and accept the possible standing loss, or don't. The choice is meaningless if there are no consequences.

Says the Caldari Provisions player. If you don't [expletive deleted] like it, don't [expletive deleted] pod anyone. No one is making you. If I ran a player corp and you podded one of my dudes, you would go straight to -10. No questions asked. If you shoot a corp or faction's NPCs, you lose standing with them. Why shouldn't it work the same for not only de-shipping, but pod killing one of their capsuleers?

If you do bad things to people, people stop liking you, and start to impose negative consequences on you. Don't you get it?

Since you asked what I think:

I think a pod-kill in eve is about as close as you can get to committing an atrocity or war crime (yes, I do it myself, but in wormhole space where there are no inconvenient record-keepers).

I think it's reasonable that the friends and allies of someone against whom you committed an atrocity will be upset and demand that their corporation marks you out for special attention.

They certainly aren't going to want you turning up and asking for work!

So a standings loss with an NPC corp of which you have smeared the body one of their valued members across the stars seems to me to be the very least of sanctions.

If I were running that NPC corp I think I'd wardec you, your corp, your wife, children and the next 5 generations of your family.

Who the **** cares about NPC corp standings?

You'll get into one whenever you want if that's what you want, no matter what standings you have.

Common sense says if you shoot someone then you should expect their corp to like you less. Just because concord (one entity) is ok with you killing someone doesn't mean the corp the player is in (another entity entirely) is going to be ok with it. Also so what if you're in FW and the enemy corp doesn't like you? You planning on switching sides or something? You're at war, don't like it then make peace... The only reason this is even being brought up is because pod killing outside war decs can now possibly be ok with concord however that doesn't meant The Scope has to be ok with or any other npc corp, I also don't remember any npc corp only accepting "law abiding" pilots (or refusing "law abiding" pilots for that matter) so apparently they have different views than concord on who it is and isn't ok to shoot at. This is normal and frankly in line with how a player corp would interact. If you want to live in npc controlled space then you should be nice to the corps/factions in control, just like if you lived in player controlled space.