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Zor'katar Matari Recreation 118	Posted - 2013.07.06 18:20:00 - [1] - Quote Arya Regnar wrote: Raising awareness. Of what? This guy gave you the answer: RoAnnon wrote: You pod a member of an NPC corp and your standings with that corp drop? What's the issue? Seems pretty reasonable to me. Not sure how you can compare that with a PC run/owned corp, since those are actual players who get to make up their own mind how they feel about you.
Zor'katar Matari Recreation 118	Posted - 2013.07.06 19:27:00 - [2] - Quote Arya Regnar wrote: It's not about the answer, it's about the fact that this is a new mechanic that wasn't included in any of the patchnotes That's a legitimate gripe I guess. Arya Regnar wrote: There is no answer that justifies privilege of NPC corp that additionally punishes those who legally kill people in limited engagments only because they are in NPC corp, no warnings displayed no information given. Trial and error in your case. "Legally" just means CONCORD won't intervene. Do you get a standings hit on the ship kill, or just the pod kill? As far as I know, CCP has never encouraged pod killing in high sec. You can do it without CONCORD intervention under certain circumstances, but that doesn't mean there won't be other consequences. If you do it to a player in a player corporation, you'll earn that corporation's ire. If the player is in an NPC corporation, that's simulated by standings. Seems pretty reasonable (though yes, it probably should have been mentioned in patch notes if that's a substantial change from previous mechanics).
Zor'katar Matari Recreation 118	Posted - 2013.07.06 20:39:00 - [3] - Quote Arya Regnar wrote: Only player corporations don't own indestructible stations that never change ownership. If I earn some player corps ire I will burn that corp to the ground. NPC corps are a different matter. Go be a devils advocate somewhere else carebear. Hint: If you want to be taken seriously, engaging your critics goes a lot farther than namecalling.
Zor'katar Matari Recreation 118	Posted - 2013.07.06 21:19:00 - [4] - Quote Arya Regnar wrote: Hint: I know carebears are going to list 100 reasons why killers should be punished and why eve should be more like hello kitty online. Funny thing is, no one's done that. Arya Regnar wrote: It's about sending a message. This is a thread about consequences of podkilling in highsec. If you want to discuss that, great. If you just want to use it as an opportunity to rehash the "NPC corps are too easy" argument, dredge up one of the dozens of other threads about that.
Zor'katar Matari Recreation 118	Posted - 2013.07.06 23:08:00 - [5] - Quote Arya Regnar wrote: Not about highsec buster. Lowsec shares the same consequence. Fair enough.
Zor'katar Matari Recreation 118	Posted - 2013.07.07 01:56:00 - [6] - Quote Shova'k wrote: it's not just pod kills that cause npc and starter corp standing hits and hell it happened to me back in 2010 and neither target was in faction warfare. Can anyone confirm that ship kills are giving NPC standings hits these days? If so, I guess I agree that's a little lame. Shova'k wrote: in the long run lagit engagement or gank it is gonna hurt if u kill enough pods cause seriously who checks to see if their in a npc corp or not ? Eh, for pods I don't have a lot of sympathy. Honestly, I think pod killing in general (outside null/WH) should have more consequences. It should really mean something to pod someone... an act of sacrifice to say "screw you" to someone who's really pissed you off. As it is, podding has become such standard procedure that it's just an impersonal flash of epeen.
Zor'katar Matari Recreation 118	Posted - 2013.07.07 15:37:00 - [7] - Quote Arya Regnar wrote: Whats wrong about podding really... if you get podded in highsec or lowsec you deserve it, no ship can lock you in time if you aren't an idiot unless they use 2 large smartbombs and so far that has never happened to me. If you fly expensive pod and you die in it you had it coming for being such a slowpoke, there is no need for additional penalties when the whole fight was twosided and the guy practically let you pod him. Am I supposed to let him go? I kill what I can. And that's your choice. I'm certainly not saying podding should be disallowed, but as is the mantra in Eve, actions have consequences. You have nothing in particular to gain from podding someone, so you have a choice: do it and accept the possible standing loss, or don't. The choice is meaningless if there are no consequences.
Zor'katar Matari Recreation 118	Posted - 2013.07.07 16:39:00 - [8] - Quote Arya Regnar wrote: You mean like the choice of having expensive pod and being slow about getting the f out of where your ship just exploded? Yes, exactly like that.

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