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seth Hendar
I love you miners
77
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:22:00 -
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since CCP, for obvious reasons, didn't linked any forum for this devblog, here's one.
said dev blog: Changes to the EVE Naming Policy
personally, i think this is just ********..... |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
198
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:24:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:since CCP, for obvious reasons, didn't linked any forum for this devblog, here's one. said dev blog: Changes to the EVE Naming Policypersonally, i think this is just ********.....
Why? Is it the end of your pathetic scamming alts? "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

seth Hendar
I love you miners
77
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:28:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:seth Hendar wrote:since CCP, for obvious reasons, didn't linked any forum for this devblog, here's one. said dev blog: Changes to the EVE Naming Policypersonally, i think this is just ********..... Why? Is it the end of your pathetic scamming alts? i don't scamm, and i don't like this, i would cut them in half, but there are dozens of pvp situation where you want to name your ship so a perrsonne who deosn't look carefully it's dscan could confuse you with something else, for example.
after this, you would not be allowed to name your ship "rifter" even if it IS a rifter, because:
Quote: In-game names include, but are not limited to: Character names, corporation names, alliance names and any other player-nameable item or entity within the game world.
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Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
823
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:28:00 -
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Its on the launcher, smack right in front of you when you log in. Its also one the news if if you just use ExeFiledotExe.
They didn't need to link it since people it actually effects can 1) read, 2) read, or 3) read dev blogs. Toshiro Ozuwara > GOon cowards come fight Toshiro Ozuwara > Oh wait, you only camp when you got numberssss
I would fully support account bans by ccp for meta type stuff like this. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
198
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:30:00 -
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Thats fair enough.
But havent you noticed before that no names are legal in any MMO?
No living people
No dead people
No Fictional People
No Devs
Not your name
etc
Its just a mechanism which allows them to boot you legally without comeback
Mine's fine though. Im not impersonating anyone in that RL MMO people talk about. "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

seth Hendar
I love you miners
77
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:30:00 -
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Lykouleon wrote:Its on the launcher, smack right in front of you when you log in. Its also one the news if if you just use ExeFiledotExe.
They didn't need to link it since people it actually effects can 1) read, 2) read, or 3) read dev blogs. what i meant is there is no FORUM post about it, there is devblog only
the one asking for others to read shall....read |

Na Und
Galactronics
19
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:31:00 -
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Welcome to "speech codes." If you haven't had the pleasure of attending a U.S. university, you are in for a treat. |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1557
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:31:00 -
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This is one of those changes that reminds me of politicians with nothing better to do than think up new ways to make everyone's lives more miserable with ridiculous gotchas that no one expects.
Oh! You were speeding with a pair of slippers in the trunk? Well, that's an extra $50 fine. Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |

Dalmont Delantee
EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance
137
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:32:00 -
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Whats the problem with the naming policy? I'm confused... |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
198
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:32:00 -
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Dalmont Delantee wrote:Whats the problem with the naming policy? I'm confused...
Nothing, he's just noticed it for the first time ever "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

seth Hendar
I love you miners
77
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:34:00 -
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Dalmont Delantee wrote:Whats the problem with the naming policy? I'm confused... well, since you cannot name your ship with any name based on ingame items.... you would not be allowed to name a rifter "rifter", or cargo container, or stargate(X) etc....
i understand that you are not allowed certain world, if offensive / racist etc... but this go too far |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1557
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:34:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Dalmont Delantee wrote:Whats the problem with the naming policy? I'm confused... Nothing, he's just noticed it for the first time ever
Actually I'm waiting for the petition storm that will follow someone noticing all the "Gay" station names in nullsec. Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |

GreenSeed
448
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:35:00 -
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We don't call them "petitions" anymore, we call them "support tickets" please get your lingo up to date or don't pollute our forums with your stealth nerf highsec threads.
thank you. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
200
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:36:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:Dalmont Delantee wrote:Whats the problem with the naming policy? I'm confused... well, since you cannot name your ship with any name based on ingame items.... you would not be allowed to name a rifter "rifter", or cargo container, or stargate(X) etc.... i understand that you are not allowed certain world, if offensive / racist etc... but this go too far
No. No no no
You arent allowed to IMPERSONATE ingame items
A Rifter is not impersonating a Rifter
But naming your Rifter CCP Mintchip's Rifter would be in violation
Not tha they would enforce it unless you REALLY pissed them off "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Doc Spectre
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:36:00 -
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Delete your character and assets? This is getting stupid already. One man's joke is another mans offense. What a lame idea... |

Undeniable Chuck
Slopes for the Slope Throne
23
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:36:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:Dalmont Delantee wrote:Whats the problem with the naming policy? I'm confused... well, since you cannot name your ship with any name based on ingame items.... you would not be allowed to name a rifter "rifter", or cargo container, or stargate(X) etc.... i understand that you are not allowed certain world, if offensive / racist etc... but this go too far
I told you man, you went to far
I told you man
I told you
Man
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Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
200
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:41:00 -
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Undeniable Chuck wrote: I told you man, you went to far
I told you man
I told you
Man
I like your posting style
+1 "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1558
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:43:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:
But naming your Rifter CCP Mintchip's Rifter would be in violation
*quietly renames all his ships to CCP Mintchip's Avatar*
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |

Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
271
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:45:00 -
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*awaits the Dev blog stating scamming and stealing another player's assets is no longer an acceptable practice... |

seth Hendar
I love you miners
77
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:48:00 -
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Guttripper wrote:*awaits the Dev blog stating scamming and stealing another player's assets is no longer an acceptable practice... i would not be surprised at all.... |

Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
254
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:48:00 -
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I doubt CCP would enforce ship naming policy, it is common practice in null to use names that are deceptive to enemy d-scans. They probably have it as a protective clause in case someone in high-sec, for example, names their ship CCP Soundwave's Rifter or Federation Navy Commander and is doing something offensive or fishy in local under such a guise. That's my take on it, anyway. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
204
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:50:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:Guttripper wrote:*awaits the Dev blog stating scamming and stealing another player's assets is no longer an acceptable practice... i would not be surprised at all....
I would
But then, some of us have a better understanding of how the game works than others "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
204
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:50:00 -
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Kijo Rikki wrote:I doubt CCP would enforce ship naming policy, it is common practice in null to use names that are deceptive to enemy d-scans. They probably have it as a protective clause in case someone in high-sec, for example, names their ship CCP Soundwave's Rifter or Federation Navy Commander and is doing something offensive or fishy in local under such a guise. That's my take on it, anyway.
EXACTLY THIS "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1561
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:52:00 -
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Kijo Rikki wrote:I doubt CCP would enforce ship naming policy, it is common practice in null to use names that are deceptive to enemy d-scans. They probably have it as a protective clause in case someone in high-sec, for example, names their ship CCP Soundwave's Rifter or Federation Navy Commander and is doing something offensive or fishy in local under such a guise. That's my take on it, anyway.
My guess is this is indeed the spirit of the rules. But you know there is some scrublord out there who will petition everything he sees that offends him that even remotely falls under this rule. Just because he can. Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
1954
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:52:00 -
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"employee or representative of EVE Online, CCP, Customer Support personnel or volunteers. Impersonate or parody an NPC type from the EVE game world (i.e. CONCORD or other official NPC corporation or organization members) for the purpose of misleading other players. Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups. "
Which one of those groups does "Rifter" or "cargo container" fall into? The closest is "NPC type", but a Rifter is not an NPC. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Ruze
Next Stage Initiative Trans-Stellar Industries
324
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:52:00 -
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Guttripper wrote:*awaits the Dev blog stating scamming and stealing another player's assets is no longer an acceptable practice...
That would ... suck. If you're driven to threaten others with harm or violence because of what they do in game, you can't separate fantasy from reality. That "griefer/thief" is probably more sane than you are. How screwed up is that? |

Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
147
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:53:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:Dalmont Delantee wrote:Whats the problem with the naming policy? I'm confused... well, since you cannot name your ship with any name based on ingame items.... you would not be allowed to name a rifter "rifter", or cargo container, or stargate(X) etc....
Where exactly does it say that?
Quote: - Impersonate or parody any employee or representative of EVE Online, CCP, Customer Support personnel or volunteers. - Impersonate or parody an NPC type from the EVE game world (i.e. CONCORD or other official NPC corporation or organization members) for the purpose of misleading other players.
That says nothing about naming your ship after ingame items.
I wish I were a cat. That way, I could kill things and people would applaud - instead of screaming out "OH GOD NO, NOT MY DAUGHTER!" |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
204
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:53:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:Kijo Rikki wrote:I doubt CCP would enforce ship naming policy, it is common practice in null to use names that are deceptive to enemy d-scans. They probably have it as a protective clause in case someone in high-sec, for example, names their ship CCP Soundwave's Rifter or Federation Navy Commander and is doing something offensive or fishy in local under such a guise. That's my take on it, anyway. My guess is this is indeed the spirit of the rules. But you know there is some scrublord out there who will petition everything he sees that offends him that even remotely falls under this rule. Just because he can.
Probably, and he will be the one who gets banned for it because "Cnut Rod" is actually someone's wife's name
See, handy little clause that "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1561
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:55:00 -
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Ruze wrote:Guttripper wrote:*awaits the Dev blog stating scamming and stealing another player's assets is no longer an acceptable practice... That would ... suck.
It would also never happen. CCP isn't daft enough to execute the golden goose.
At least not until it stops laying eggs. Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |

seth Hendar
I love you miners
77
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:55:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:seth Hendar wrote:Guttripper wrote:*awaits the Dev blog stating scamming and stealing another player's assets is no longer an acceptable practice... i would not be surprised at all.... I would But then, some of us have a better understanding of how the game works than others if this would happen, i would be both sad and greatfull.
sad because if you are dumb to fall for it, you deserve it, on the other hand, greatfull becausehubs local would be quiet and jita limit would almost never reach |

Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
573
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:56:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:Guttripper wrote:*awaits the Dev blog stating scamming and stealing another player's assets is no longer an acceptable practice... i would not be surprised at all.... https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/composition-division
Often when something is true for the part it does also apply to the whole, or vice versa, but the crucial difference is whether there exists good evidence to show that this is the case. Because we observe consistencies in things, our thinking can become biased so that we presume consistency to exist where it does not.
Example: seth Hendar observed a change to the rules in EvE and said that because of this change, CCP are going to put restrictions to everything in the game because they put restrictions on this specific issue. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
205
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:56:00 -
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" for the purpose of misleading other players."
Theres a difference in purposefully misleading a player and profitably scamming a character.
Scams have never been allowed to include pretending to be a GM, DEV, your mother, a sentient Rifter etc "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
205
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:57:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:seth Hendar wrote:Guttripper wrote:*awaits the Dev blog stating scamming and stealing another player's assets is no longer an acceptable practice... i would not be surprised at all.... I would But then, some of us have a better understanding of how the game works than others if this would happen, i would be both sad and greatfull. sad because if you are dumb to fall for it, you deserve it, on the other hand, greatfull becausehubs local would be quiet and jita limit would almost never reach
You're a good lad and I hope you dont get scammed.
I actually mean that.
Nice thick skin
Pretty eyes
I can haz? "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Zircon Dasher
216
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:01:00 -
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So.... ummm.... if I name my ship Romona McCandless's Ibis for the purposes of confusing someone they can petitio.....err...create a customer servie ticket (or wutever)? Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1895
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:02:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:seth Hendar wrote:since CCP, for obvious reasons, didn't linked any forum for this devblog, here's one. said dev blog: Changes to the EVE Naming Policypersonally, i think this is just ********..... Why? Is it the end of your pathetic scamming alts? i don't scamm, and i don't like this, i would cut them in half, but there are dozens of pvp situation where you want to name your ship so a perrsonne who deosn't look carefully it's dscan could confuse you with something else, for example. after this, you would not be allowed to name your ship "rifter" even if it IS a rifter, because: Quote: In-game names include, but are not limited to: Character names, corporation names, alliance names and any other player-nameable item or entity within the game world.
Oh, I think you've mis-read this rather badly. That line refers to things which *you* can name - and you're not allowed to impersonate or misappropriate someone *else's* names. Nothing there says you can't name your Rifter "Small Mission Wreck" or "Force Field" or even "Cancel Primary."
What it means is you can't name your outpost "George Stephanopoulos."
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet
398
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:04:00 -
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On my pvp alt, all her ships are named (_!_) or ( o Y o ) or some version. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
147
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:05:00 -
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Zircon Dasher wrote:So.... ummm.... if I name my ship Romona McCandless's Ibis for the purposes of confusing someone they can petitio.....err...create a customer servie ticket (or wutever)?
Is "Romona McCandless" one of:
- Employee or representative of EVE Online, CCP, Customer Support personnel or volunteers. - NPC type from the EVE game world (i.e. CONCORD or other official NPC corporation or organization members)
If yes: Yes. If no: No.
Simple as that. I wish I were a cat. That way, I could kill things and people would applaud - instead of screaming out "OH GOD NO, NOT MY DAUGHTER!" |

seth Hendar
I love you miners
78
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:07:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:seth Hendar wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:seth Hendar wrote:since CCP, for obvious reasons, didn't linked any forum for this devblog, here's one. said dev blog: Changes to the EVE Naming Policypersonally, i think this is just ********..... Why? Is it the end of your pathetic scamming alts? i don't scamm, and i don't like this, i would cut them in half, but there are dozens of pvp situation where you want to name your ship so a perrsonne who deosn't look carefully it's dscan could confuse you with something else, for example. after this, you would not be allowed to name your ship "rifter" even if it IS a rifter, because: Quote: In-game names include, but are not limited to: Character names, corporation names, alliance names and any other player-nameable item or entity within the game world.
Oh, I think you've mis-read this rather badly. That line refers to things which *you* can name - and you're not allowed to impersonate or misappropriate someone *else's* names. Nothing there says you can't name your Rifter "Small Mission Wreck" or "Force Field" or even "Cancel Primary." What it means is you can't name your outpost "George Stephanopoulos." and like my first example "Sansha Lord"? you can't
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S D Plissken
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:09:00 -
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Ban player owned stations named after obliterated rodents. I'm sick of them.
Call me Snake
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Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
205
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:13:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Zircon Dasher wrote:So.... ummm.... if I name my ship Romona McCandless's Ibis for the purposes of confusing someone they can petitio.....err...create a customer servie ticket (or wutever)? Is "Romona McCandless" one of: - Employee or representative of EVE Online, CCP, Customer Support personnel or volunteers. - NPC type from the EVE game world (i.e. CONCORD or other official NPC corporation or organization members) If yes: Yes. If no: No. Simple as that.
Is there even another player called "Romona McCandless"?
Is she one of my sibs?
Ive lost a brother, but I dont recall a sister by that name.
My mum's name is Ma'Baker McCandless "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
653
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:14:00 -
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So wait... Does this mean all the annoying "420" names will become citizian xxxxxxx?
Hmmmm.... Not sure if this is a curse or a blessing. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
205
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:14:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote: and like my first example "Sansha Lord"? you can't
How would that mislead a player though?
White boxes and red crosses are different, Im told "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2346
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:18:00 -
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Oh noes! My aspirations of creating a forum alt named: "The Shitestaini" have been dashed!
Curses CCP, you win this round.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Zircon Dasher
216
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:28:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote: Is "Romona McCandless" one of:
- Employee or representative of EVE Online, CCP, Customer Support personnel or volunteers. - NPC type from the EVE game world (i.e. CONCORD or other official NPC corporation or organization members)
If yes: Yes. If no: No.
Simple as that.
2c of the policy has no bearing here? Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'. |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1172
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:29:00 -
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Quote: discriminating organizations
CCP ban yourself! You're discriminating!
Quote:I doubt CCP would enforce ship naming policy, it is common practice in null to use names that are deceptive to enemy d-scans. They probably have it as a protective clause in case someone in high-sec, for example, names their ship CCP Soundwave's Rifter or Federation Navy Commander and is doing something offensive or fishy in local under such a guise. That's my take on it, anyway.
Right, because if they're not going to do so, it's always a good idea to make up rules for things you're not going to do. Now, the reality is selective enforcement. That's why we have laws and rules. Some are absolute. Others are not. But in all cases, rules are made to be applied. It's just a matter of whether you're a friend of CCP's or not.
Many many rules and laws in the world exist solely to shackle those that aren't friends to the people who made the rules and laws in the first place. HTFU!...for the children! |

Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
148
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:32:00 -
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Zircon Dasher wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote: Is "Romona McCandless" one of:
- Employee or representative of EVE Online, CCP, Customer Support personnel or volunteers. - NPC type from the EVE game world (i.e. CONCORD or other official NPC corporation or organization members)
If yes: Yes. If no: No.
Simple as that.
2c of the policy has no bearing here?
There is no player named "Romona McCandless" as far as I can see, so why should it? I wish I were a cat. That way, I could kill things and people would applaud - instead of screaming out "OH GOD NO, NOT MY DAUGHTER!" |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
205
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:34:00 -
[47] - Quote
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
There is no player named "Romona McCandless" as far as I can see, so why should it?
Exactly
As I mentioned though, may be she's one of my illegitimate siblings
Ole Ma'Baker McCandless used to put it around "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Zircon Dasher
216
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:36:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Zircon Dasher wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote: Is "Romona McCandless" one of:
- Employee or representative of EVE Online, CCP, Customer Support personnel or volunteers. - NPC type from the EVE game world (i.e. CONCORD or other official NPC corporation or organization members)
If yes: Yes. If no: No.
Simple as that.
2c of the policy has no bearing here? There is no player named "Romona McCandless" as far as I can see, so why should it?
Give it a min and there will be! Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'. |

Tamiroth
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
133
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:36:00 -
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It seems that i am purposefully impersonating or parodying an in-game item (Planet): Amarr IV (Tamiroth), which is also Not Available to the General Public.
I beg CCP to let me Continue With This Sort Of Thing.
Otherwise, i fully endorse this idea.
x |

Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
148
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:37:00 -
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Tamiroth wrote:It seems that i am purposefully impersonating or parodying an in-game item (Planet): Amarr IV (Tamiroth), which is also Not Available to the General Public.
I beg CCP to let me Continue With This Sort Of Thing.
Otherwise, i fully endorse this idea.
x
Where does it say that you are forbidden to do so? I wish I were a cat. That way, I could kill things and people would applaud - instead of screaming out "OH GOD NO, NOT MY DAUGHTER!" |

Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
148
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:38:00 -
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Zircon Dasher wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Zircon Dasher wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote: Is "Romona McCandless" one of:
- Employee or representative of EVE Online, CCP, Customer Support personnel or volunteers. - NPC type from the EVE game world (i.e. CONCORD or other official NPC corporation or organization members)
If yes: Yes. If no: No.
Simple as that.
2c of the policy has no bearing here? There is no player named "Romona McCandless" as far as I can see, so why should it? Give it a min and there will be!
Then 2c applies of course. But I fail to see what this has to do with today's policy change. I wish I were a cat. That way, I could kill things and people would applaud - instead of screaming out "OH GOD NO, NOT MY DAUGHTER!" |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1564
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:38:00 -
[52] - Quote
Zircon Dasher wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Zircon Dasher wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote: Is "Romona McCandless" one of:
- Employee or representative of EVE Online, CCP, Customer Support personnel or volunteers. - NPC type from the EVE game world (i.e. CONCORD or other official NPC corporation or organization members)
If yes: Yes. If no: No.
Simple as that.
2c of the policy has no bearing here? There is no player named "Romona McCandless" as far as I can see, so why should it? Give it a min and there will be!
ITT people fail to understand the difference between "player" and "character". Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |

Zircon Dasher
216
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:39:00 -
[53] - Quote
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Tamiroth wrote:It seems that i am purposefully impersonating or parodying an in-game item (Planet): Amarr IV (Tamiroth), which is also Not Available to the General Public.
I beg CCP to let me Continue With This Sort Of Thing.
Otherwise, i fully endorse this idea.
x Where does it say that you are forbidden to do so?
Just out of curiosity- Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night? Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
207
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:40:00 -
[54] - Quote
Id be fascinated to see someone try to impersonate me
If in doubt, ask them what the Tainted Claret really is "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1564
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:41:00 -
[55] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote: If in doubt, ask them what the Tainted Claret really is
Now I'm curious. Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |

Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
148
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:45:00 -
[56] - Quote
Zircon Dasher wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Tamiroth wrote:It seems that i am purposefully impersonating or parodying an in-game item (Planet): Amarr IV (Tamiroth), which is also Not Available to the General Public.
I beg CCP to let me Continue With This Sort Of Thing.
Otherwise, i fully endorse this idea.
x Where does it say that you are forbidden to do so? Just out of curiosity- Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?
Just answer the question, please.
Is (Planet): Amarr IV (Tamiroth) one of:
Quote: employee or representative of EVE Online, CCP, Customer Support personnel or volunteers. NPC type from the EVE game world (i.e. CONCORD or other official NPC corporation or organization members)
If your answer is no, then why do think you should be forbidden to name it so? I wish I were a cat. That way, I could kill things and people would applaud - instead of screaming out "OH GOD NO, NOT MY DAUGHTER!" |

Zircon Dasher
217
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:50:00 -
[57] - Quote
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Zircon Dasher wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Tamiroth wrote:It seems that i am purposefully impersonating or parodying an in-game item (Planet): Amarr IV (Tamiroth), which is also Not Available to the General Public.
I beg CCP to let me Continue With This Sort Of Thing.
Otherwise, i fully endorse this idea.
x Where does it say that you are forbidden to do so? Just out of curiosity- Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night? Just answer the question, please.
How can I answer the question since I am not you? Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'. |

Zircon Dasher
217
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:51:00 -
[58] - Quote
De'Veldrin wrote:
ITT people fail to understand the difference between "player" and "character".
Completely agree.
Also: ITT people make lots of assumptions and do not read documents. Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2347
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:52:00 -
[59] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:If in doubt, ask them what the Tainted Claret really is
Is that anything like a Band Camp Flute?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

baltec1
Bat Country
6901
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:52:00 -
[60] - Quote
GreenSeed wrote:We don't call them "petitions" anymore, we call them "support tickets" please get your lingo up to date or don't pollute our forums with your stealth nerf highsec threads.
thank you.
I'm a bittervet and will not change. It will always be the petition system to me.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4259
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Posted - 2013.06.11 20:08:00 -
[61] - Quote
Mr Kidd wrote:Quote: discriminating organizations CCP ban yourself! You're discriminating! Quote:I doubt CCP would enforce ship naming policy, it is common practice in null to use names that are deceptive to enemy d-scans. They probably have it as a protective clause in case someone in high-sec, for example, names their ship CCP Soundwave's Rifter or Federation Navy Commander and is doing something offensive or fishy in local under such a guise. That's my take on it, anyway. Right, because if they're not going to do so, it's always a good idea to make up rules for things you're not going to do. Now, the reality is selective enforcement. That's why we have laws and rules. Some are absolute. Others are not. But in all cases, rules are made to be applied. It's just a matter of whether you're a friend of CCP's or not. Many many rules and laws in the world exist solely to shackle those that aren't friends to the people who made the rules and laws in the first place. True, however in this case it is actually to have the tools available (without question) to get rid of names that go a wee bit too far.
Nobody is going to go around policing your ship name unless it is EXTREMELY inappropriate. The same goes for your corp or alliance name. However if you do violate the boundaries of whatever passes in Iceland as good taste, they can refer to this ruling without question when converting it to something numerical.
I'm sure they find the panic and hysterical over reaction by certain people to be more than a little amusing, but that's just icing on the cake.  To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
257
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Posted - 2013.06.11 20:23:00 -
[62] - Quote
Mr Kidd wrote: Right, because if they're not going to do so, it's always a good idea to make up rules for things you're not going to do. Now, the reality is selective enforcement. That's why we have laws and rules. Some are absolute. Others are not. But in all cases, rules are made to be applied. It's just a matter of whether you're a friend of CCP's or not.
Many many rules and laws in the world exist solely to shackle those that aren't friends to the people who made the rules and laws in the first place.
I disagree on how CCP will be selective about their rules. I don't think it has anything to with what your CCP buddy level is trained to, I think it's a matter of evaluating a circumstance and deciding if a name and its use crosses a line, if not CCP would chose to ignore it, if so then CCP can use the rule to change the name without argument. I feel pretty confident I could name my ship "Gist Commander" or whatever and fly into an ice belt and blow someone up. Most players can tell the difference between a white empty box. I don't feel CCP would view that as misleading. What I thnk they meant was, using CCP Soundwave's Rifter or "Federation Navy Commander" and telling locals that you have an official sanctioned contest, or telling players they are banished from system, or something to this effect. Using the name to try to impersonate an employee or an in-game NPC character, literally, not just in ship name. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
211
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Posted - 2013.06.11 20:26:00 -
[63] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:If in doubt, ask them what the Tainted Claret really is Is that anything like a Band Camp Flute?
clar-+et (klrt) n. 1. a. A dry red wine produced in the Bordeaux region of France. b. A similar wine made elsewhere. 2. A dark or grayish purplish red to dark purplish pink.
clar-+i-+net (klr-nt) n. A woodwind instrument having a straight cylindrical tube with a flaring bell and a single-reed mouthpiece, played by means of finger holes and keys.
You chimp "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Damage Control I
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2013.06.11 20:26:00 -
[64] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote: No. No no no
You arent allowed to IMPERSONATE ingame items
oops |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
215
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Posted - 2013.06.11 20:30:00 -
[65] - Quote
Damage Control I wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote: No. No no no
You arent allowed to IMPERSONATE ingame items
oops
its ok, DC1, I like you
You reinforce all my places at once "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
257
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Posted - 2013.06.11 20:31:00 -
[66] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Damage Control I wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote: No. No no no
You arent allowed to IMPERSONATE ingame items
oops its ok, DC1, I like you You reinforce all my places at once
Sounds like it belongs in a romance novel. |

GreenSeed
453
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Posted - 2013.06.11 20:36:00 -
[67] - Quote
he's Minmatar, shes Amarr... i would say BSDM novel, not romance. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
216
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Posted - 2013.06.11 20:39:00 -
[68] - Quote
GreenSeed wrote:he's Minmatar, shes Amarr... i would say BSDM novel, not romance.
We all know who wears the trousers on THIS ship
No one, they get in the way of the electrodes "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Anti-social Tendencies
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:19:00 -
[69] - Quote
seth Hendar wrote:Dalmont Delantee wrote:Whats the problem with the naming policy? I'm confused... well, since you cannot name your ship with any name based on ingame items.... you would not be allowed to name a rifter "rifter", or cargo container, or stargate(X) etc....
Nothing in the policy would prevent you from naming your Drake "rifter".
"Patience: n, a minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue." - AMBROSE PIERCE |

S D Plissken
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:25:00 -
[70] - Quote
I like the way dead rodents are glorified. Makes you sound 'legit'.
Only dead rodents are good rodents.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
8576
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:31:00 -
[71] - Quote
Yes... that is the part of the EULA you react on lol
There's plenty of other sections of the EULA that is far more questionable than just a small update in print to rules that have been in place for years just not spelled out properly. Why would anyone really care what you name your ship or can.
/c
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Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
378
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:33:00 -
[72] - Quote
this has me pondering whether referencing mind-blowingly narrow delicious teenage lady parts in my ship name would be deemed sexually explicit.
best to be safe with ice and fire spoilers i guess i just locked an open door.. strange, yet symbolically compelling. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
220
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:35:00 -
[73] - Quote
Ottersmacker wrote:this has me pondering whether referencing mind-blowingly narrow delicious teenage lady parts in my ship name would be deemed sexually explicit.
best to be safe with ice and fire spoilers i guess
What like "Bone****?"
Its where the eyes used to be, if thats any help "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Tiber Ibis
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2013.06.11 22:51:00 -
[74] - Quote
What if someone's name is identical to yours barring a letter. Would that mean you are impersonating another player and could request for them to have a name change? Also some corporation names are copies of another, so now we can get them changed also? Interesting. |

Elliavir
Miskatonic Mercantile
4
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Posted - 2013.06.12 00:04:00 -
[75] - Quote
I hope that 'impersonation' and 'parody' aren't confused.
I think "Republic Culinary School' would be a great name for a hi-sec carebear corp.
I'd worry a bit if I were a current member of "Goonwaffle".
I'd be shopping for a new corporation if I were a current member of "Republic Millitary School".
Lather, rinse, repeat with all your favorite entities.
Edit - bolding & italicizing for clarity |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1569
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Posted - 2013.06.12 12:59:00 -
[76] - Quote
GreenSeed wrote:he's Minmatar, shes Amarr... i would say BSDM novel, not romance.
Since when is BDSM not romantic? Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |

Aramatheia
European Nuthouse
110
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Posted - 2013.06.12 13:21:00 -
[77] - Quote
if this is true then i know pilots who are looking for trouble, or remarkably lucky so far, some with names copying npcs, or naming thier ships after random celestials to fool scans.
if I have a couple of ship names inspired by my favorite scifi, am i also doomed? |

seth Hendar
I love you miners
83
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Posted - 2013.06.12 13:26:00 -
[78] - Quote
Aramatheia wrote:if this is true then i know pilots who are looking for trouble, or remarkably lucky so far, some with names copying npcs, or naming thier ships after random celestials to fool scans. if I have a couple of ship names inspired by my favorite scifi, am i also doomed? Tiber Ibis wrote:What if someone's name is identical to yours barring a letter. Would that mean you are impersonating another player and could request for them to have a name change? Also some corporation names are copies of another, so now we can get them changed also? Interesting. that gets dicey especially if the copycat is doing bannable stuff in game. i recall when i used to play an unnamed mmo, after years of playing all the sudden a botter appeared with a clone of my name + 1 letter. i reported it furiously for months before it was finally removed. Thankfull anyone who knew me knew i hated bots and my name wasnt tarnished, but whats to stop a GM or whatever having a bad day from banning an innocent because some dirtbag cloned thier name and broke the rules this is really common practice in small scale pvp, counting on your target (or the ones hunting you) doesn't paying much attention to his dscan, or confusing name and shiptype.
this is one way to somehow blend in, but this is not enought to fool one paying the correct level of attention tho. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
252
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Posted - 2013.06.12 13:37:00 -
[79] - Quote
Aramatheia wrote: an innocent
No such item found
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Blastil
The Reblier Alliance
76
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Posted - 2013.06.14 19:43:00 -
[80] - Quote
seth Hendar wrote: In-game names may not: ... Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups.
... In-game names include, but are not limited to: Character names, corporation names, alliance names and any other player-nameable item or entity within the game world..
wait, hang on, 1, that means that you can't name any stations after vile rat and 2, that the default names of every ship are now AGAINST CCP policy on two counts since they both include a character name, AND an ingame item name as in XXX's Imicus.
Fail CCP, Fail. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
331
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Posted - 2013.06.14 19:44:00 -
[81] - Quote
Blastil wrote:seth Hendar wrote: In-game names may not: ... Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups.
... In-game names include, but are not limited to: Character names, corporation names, alliance names and any other player-nameable item or entity within the game world..
wait, hang on, 1, that means that you can't name any stations after vile rat and 2, that the default names of every ship are now AGAINST CCP policy on two counts since they both include a character name, AND an ingame item name as in XXX's Imicus. Fail CCP, Fail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GrV3OZdjP8
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Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
150
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Posted - 2013.06.14 19:48:00 -
[82] - Quote
Blastil wrote:seth Hendar wrote: In-game names may not: ... Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups.
... In-game names include, but are not limited to: Character names, corporation names, alliance names and any other player-nameable item or entity within the game world..
wait, hang on, 1, that means that you can't name any stations after vile rat and 2, that the default names of every ship are now AGAINST CCP policy on two counts since they both include a character name, AND an ingame item name as in XXX's Imicus. Fail CCP, Fail.
What? Both points you said are wrong. Sure you can name a Station "Vile Rat", since it's none of "real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads".
The second point you quoted does not forbid naming things after in-game items, it just specifies what in-game items you are NOT allowed to name after the previous points. You are still totally free to name your rifter "Incursus". I wish I were a cat. That way, I could kill things and people would applaud - instead of screaming out "OH GOD NO, NOT MY DAUGHTER!" |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
4560
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Posted - 2013.06.14 19:57:00 -
[83] - Quote
Well, this dashes my plans to create a character called The Mittoni and rule over my new Goomswarn alliance. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Oxandrolone
Bite Me inc Bitten.
186
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Posted - 2013.06.15 00:52:00 -
[84] - Quote
Whores in space is offensive to all kinds of real life whores.
Attention whores, camwhores, and good old fashion sell their body whores. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14838
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Posted - 2013.06.15 01:04:00 -
[85] - Quote
Reading is hard, apparently.
Why is it that the clearer they make the EULA, the more people manage to completely fail to understand what it says? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
263
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Posted - 2013.06.15 01:28:00 -
[86] - Quote
seth Hendar wrote:this is not eve online anymore this is hello kitty online.
No, it's business.
If anyone online wants to do business now they have to comply with basic legal etiquette.
EvE is becoming more conventional than exceptional. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2013.06.15 01:33:00 -
[87] - Quote
Quote:this is not eve online anymore this is hello kitty online.
Then quit. Surely your convictions are not worth sacrificing over a game. By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it! |
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