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Jungle Jim	Posted - 2005.11.14 15:58:00 - [31] I had some good fights with SA. MLM had some good fights with SA, no smack, honourable 1vs1's, etc. And above all lots of Fun... * Proud First Time Winner of the MLM Muppet Award *
Orc A	Posted - 2005.11.14 15:58:00 - [32] Edited by: Orc A on 14/11/2005 15:58:18 Stain- Alliance? "This once powerful faction with its many veterans from the brutal Curse Alliance era is on its last legs. Alliances can live on thier reputations for only so long until they are challenged and outbeaten by a better, smarter, and more unified foe. G have what S-A lack, unity & participation. When you have unity in your faction and everyone participating, there is nothing and no one you cannot beat. Like the Fountain Alliance, Stain- Alliance had become decadant, an old warhorse unable to keep up with the versatility of todays modern galatic warfare. It is said that if S-A and SE had not started a civil war for control of stain, things would be different today." Sorry, but.... Go buy a clue. No wait, ill give you one for free... SA are at thier prime right now. if you would have any idea what you are talknig about, it would be very helpful for your future trolling attempts. Oh, btw... XB left SE. :p
Luc Boye	Posted - 2005.11.14 15:59:00 - [33] I don't think BoB would want to take G territory, we got plenty of that. What we like to do is to slug it out with G/Iron. Always nice fights. But thats just me talking as meat shield, so don't pay attention :P
Yamabushi	Posted - 2005.11.14 15:59:00 - [34] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Yamabushi well FE being not on the list just can mean 1 thing : you guys don¦t bring it !!!!! a bit harsh i know,.. but true..... people recognize you by your actions and not by only your "blablabla" on the forums ( no insult, just my opinion ) BS. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Love this revisionist history by people who werent even involved. yeah whatever it needs to make you feel better http://asuya.eve-killboard.net/
Hobblin I	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:04:00 - [35] Apparently BOB dont want to take G territory And 5 are out of the POS/sovreignty buisness. However, G and IRON cannot field a force in enemy territory and defend the home as well. So any other entity interested in space should make a land grab soon.
Saal Iverson	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:05:00 - [36] but yama killing 600 so blah blah ships makes you a super power now! :P
Roxanne	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:08:00 - [37] Originally by: Hobblin I Apparently BOB dont want to take G territory And 5 are out of the POS/sovreignty buisness. However, G and IRON cannot field a force in enemy territory and defend the home as well. So any other entity interested in space should make a land grab soon. Since G/IRON stated that they have no intention in staying in the south, any interested entity would probably have to deal with their return once their territory gets attacked.
Aquiesse Erus	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:10:00 - [38] Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: Hobblin I Apparently BOB dont want to take G territory And 5 are out of the POS/sovreignty buisness. However, G and IRON cannot field a force in enemy territory and defend the home as well. So any other entity interested in space should make a land grab soon. Since G/IRON stated that they have no intention in staying in the south, any interested entity would probably have to deal with their return once their territory gets attacked. And our return would end the land-grab:)
oidalia	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:11:00 - [39] Originally by: Hobblin I However, G and IRON cannot field a force in enemy territory and defend the home as well. Sadly no alliance in Eve can do that, at least as long as we dont get something like free clone jumping. Thats why i hope such a feature will come soon cause it will allow a lot more action.
Yamabushi	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:12:00 - [40] Originally by: Saal Iverson but yama killing 600 so blah blah ships makes you a super power now! :P numbers are just numbers.. especially when those numbers are being showed from only 1 side...... the goal needs to be reached.. whatever that means for the alliance/corp/crew..... numbers are worth like a piece of sh** ..... http://asuya.eve-killboard.net/
Yamabushi	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:12:00 - [41] Originally by: Saal Iverson but yama killing 600 so blah blah ships makes you a super power now! :P numbers are just numbers.. especially when those numbers are being showed from only 1 side...... the goal needs to be reached.. whatever that means for the alliance/corp/crew..... numbers are worth like a piece of sh** ..... http://asuya.eve-killboard.net/
Hobblin I	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:14:00 - [42] Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: Hobblin I Apparently BOB dont want to take G territory And 5 are out of the POS/sovreignty buisness. However, G and IRON cannot field a force in enemy territory and defend the home as well. So any other entity interested in space should make a land grab soon. Since G/IRON stated that they have no intention in staying in the south, any interested entity would probably have to deal with their return once their territory gets attacked. That is all fine and dandy, but it will force the G/IRON folks back into North Space to save the miners and the roids etc... OR, it might lead to the whole North vs South deal. In the end all it does is add some more fun into the mix. Can't let some small sized alliances roam free when they are also very attached to there own home.
Nepereta	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:17:00 - [43] should be some good fights ahead hope everyone has fun
Sarmaul	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:18:00 - [44] Originally by: queen'beee Other Factions FIX have all remained strangely quiet during the transition of the south We've been too busy patrolling the HED pipe looking for G/IRON to kill to bother with "making a noise". "it also seems none have looked to profit territorially from the unrest." RA have an absolute crap-load of space as it is, BoB seems to like all of their space to be blocked together and probably doesn't want any more NPC regions, FIX has always been about querious and only aquired FAT as it was being used to launch attacks into Q, and 5 are currently up north shooting PA, NBSI and F-E (you know, the "Great Empire War"). oh, and ofc this is my personal opinion n all that other *****s that stops me getting into trouble Originally by:** Chowdown We camp a lot
Daxes	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:28:00 - [45] Edited by: Daxes on 14/11/2005 16:28:50 Originally by: Hobblin I Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: Hobblin I Apparently BOB dont want to take G territory And 5 are out of the POS/sovreignty buisness. However, G and IRON cannot field a force in enemy territory and defend the home as well. So any other entity interested in space should make a land grab soon. Since G/IRON stated that they have no intention in staying in the south, any interested entity would probably have to deal with their return once their territory gets attacked. That is all fine and dandy, but it will force the G/IRON folks back into North Space to save the miners and the roids etc... OR, it might lead to the whole North vs South deal. In the end all it does is add some more fun into the mix. Can't let some small sized alliances roam free when they are also very attached to there own home. 1) Cant speak for IRON but G has no miners so if noone tries to setup POS we dont really have to worry about our space. 2) G might have few members compared to other major powers but the difference here is the activity. I bet the normal G member has the online time of 3-4 "Average Joe alliance" members else we wouldnt be able to compete with those huge sized alliance. Btw i think that is the way to go for really PvP orientated alliances, to have a small but very active and organised memberbase instead of those mass alliances of the past because lets be honest industrial corps have atm hardly any meaning. BoB also shows this, any dedicated PvP corp is able to earn enough money on their own, industrial corps are just deadweight and are only good at making u look bigger/stronger in the public than u really are.
Ras Blumin	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:31:00 - [46] Originally by: Yamabushi well FE being not on the list just can mean 1 thing : you guys don¦t bring it !!!!! a bit harsh i know,.. but true..... people recognize you by your actions and not by only your "blablabla" on the forums ( no insult, just my opinion ) One of your guys ran from my hauler. That can only mean that you guys have no balls at all. Might be harsh, but it's the truth. (Oh, and it's damn hard to catch an inty when your in a hauler ) p - l - u - r
Aquiesse Erus	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:33:00 - [47] Originally by: Ras Blumin Originally by: Yamabushi well FE being not on the list just can mean 1 thing : you guys don¦t bring it !!!!! a bit harsh i know,.. but true..... people recognize you by your actions and not by only your "blablabla" on the forums ( no insult, just my opinion ) One of your guys ran from my hauler. That can only mean that you guys have no balls at all. Might be harsh, but it's the truth. (Oh, and it's damn hard to catch an inty when your in a hauler ) Ever thought he might have allready initiated warp? Or did he actually start shooting you and run? Or did you have 1 gun, a warp/web and jammers on? (note i would run from a hauler with this on - and i use it myself now n again).
Hobblin I	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:35:00 - [48] Originally by: Daxes Edited by: Daxes on 14/11/2005 16:28:50 Originally by: Hobblin I Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: Hobblin I Apparently BOB dont want to take G territory And 5 are out of the POS/sovreignty buisness. However, G and IRON cannot field a force in enemy territory and defend the home as well. So any other entity interested in space should make a land grab soon. Since G/IRON stated that they have no intention in staying in the south, any interested entity would probably have to deal with their return once their territory gets attacked. That is all fine and dandy, but it will force the G/IRON folks back into North Space to save the miners and the roids etc... OR, it might lead to the whole North vs South deal. In the end all it does is add some more fun into the mix. Can't let some small sized alliances roam free when they are also very attached to there own home. 1) Cant speak for IRON but G has no miners so if noone tries to setup POS we dont really have to worry about our space. 2) G might have few members compared to other major powers but the difference here is the activity. I bet the normal G member has the online time of 3-4 "Average Joe alliance" members else we wouldnt be able to compete with those huge sized alliance. Btw i think that is the way to go for really PvP orientated alliances, to have a small but very active and organised memberbase instead of those mass alliances of the past because lets be honest industrial corps have atm hardly any meaning. BoB also shows this, any dedicated PvP corp is able to earn enough money on their own, industrial corps are just deadweight and are only good at making u look bigger/stronger in the public than u really are. I realise the benefit of small purely pvp orientated groups. My post merely points out that this is prime time for some empire entities to get easy access to 0.0 space. Even a small group of ex SA corps could easily force G on the backfoot by forcing the question of sovreignty in G space.
Xrak	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:37:00 - [49] Woo go [G]! \o/ /o\ \o\ /o/ ahem Put your panties on your head!
Gabriel BriGGs	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:41:00 - [50] Originally by: Orc A Sorry, but.... Go buy a clue. No wait, ill give you one for free... SA are at thier prime right now. if you would have any idea what you are talknig about, it would be very helpful for your future trolling attempts. Oh, btw... XB left SE. :p I don't b elieve Controlling/camping 9RQ would be considered you guys being at your prime. Yes you put up some mighty camps sometimes, but frankly it's a once in a while thing.. Woop.. and stop targetting me first! -------------------------------------------- This is my new sig.
thedragoon	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:51:00 - [51] Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle Originally by: Riddlock lol ... 600 kills , do you count the ships from your dreams as well ? Nope, only the ones reported, and the exact number right now is 646 SA kills by FE. That it we killed more in 1 day
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:57:00 - [52] Originally by: Yamabushi Originally by: Saal Iverson but yama killing 600 so blah blah ships makes you a super power now! :P numbers are just numbers.. especially when those numbers are being showed from only 1 side...... the goal needs to be reached.. whatever that means for the alliance/corp/crew..... numbers are worth like a piece of sh** ..... I see. First you say we dont 'bring it'. Then when we prove that we 'brought it' apparently having just as many kills if not more than any other party in this war doesnt count somehow. If kills dont count why have turret slots on ships? You presented probably the weakest arguement ive ever seen. Obvious FE bashing, nothing more.
blahblah21	Posted - 2005.11.14 17:00:00 - [53] start making your excuses now G/Iron dont bite the hand that feeds you ASCN 4TW
Lilan Kahn	Posted - 2005.11.14 17:04:00 - [54] draken more shoting less talking <-- 100 se kils in 1 week useing only a incursus so erm go you 600 kils sure is alot erm yea damn hippys !! Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Eskiban Vlasic	Posted - 2005.11.14 17:10:00 - [55] Originally by: blahblah21 start making your excuses now G/Iron dont bite the hand that feeds you ASCN 4TW Your name describes the stuff that comes out of your mouth perfectly - Vlasic of TW Fame TribalWar, INC Sister corp to FREE Explorer
Yamabushi	Posted - 2005.11.14 17:16:00 - [56] Originally by: Aquiesse Erus Originally by: Ras Blumin Originally by: Yamabushi well FE being not on the list just can mean 1 thing : you guys don¦t bring it !!!!! a bit harsh i know,.. but true..... people recognize you by your actions and not by only your "blablabla" on the forums ( no insult, just my opinion ) One of your guys ran from my hauler. That can only mean that you guys have no balls at all. Might be harsh, but it's the truth. (Oh, and it's damn hard to catch an inty when your in a hauler ) Ever thought he might have allready initiated warp? Or did he actually start shooting you and run? Or did you have 1 gun, a warp/web and jammers on? (note i would run from a hauler with this on - and i use it myself now n again). depends on in what hauler you have been.. lately a lot of tech2 haulers been running up and down the pipe ( don¦t forget the +2 basic wcs strength on some of em ).. if you have +1 scram str on your ship, does it make scence to still try to engage Ýt ? http://asuya.eve-killboard.net/
Yamabushi	Posted - 2005.11.14 17:17:00 - [57] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Yamabushi Originally by: Saal Iverson but yama killing 600 so blah blah ships makes you a super power now! :P numbers are just numbers.. especially when those numbers are being showed from only 1 side...... the goal needs to be reached.. whatever that means for the alliance/corp/crew..... numbers are worth like a piece of sh** ..... I see. First you say we dont 'bring it'. Then when we prove that we 'brought it' apparently having just as many kills if not more than any other party in this war doesnt count somehow. If kills dont count why have turret slots on ships? You presented probably the weakest arguement ive ever seen. Obvious FE bashing, nothing more. where¦s the proof ??? i can¦t see it...pls help me out http://asuya.eve-killboard.net/
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.11.14 17:21:00 - [58] Originally by: Yamabushi Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Yamabushi Originally by: Saal Iverson but yama killing 600 so blah blah ships makes you a super power now! :P numbers are just numbers.. especially when those numbers are being showed from only 1 side...... the goal needs to be reached.. whatever that means for the alliance/corp/crew..... numbers are worth like a piece of sh** ..... I see. First you say we dont 'bring it'. Then when we prove that we 'brought it' apparently having just as many kills if not more than any other party in this war doesnt count somehow. If kills dont count why have turret slots on ships? You presented probably the weakest arguement ive ever seen. Obvious FE bashing, nothing more. where¦s the proof ??? i can¦t see it...pls help me out what type of proof where you looking for? kills apparently 'dont count'. what does count exactly?
Roxanne	Posted - 2005.11.14 17:28:00 - [59] Originally by: Hobblin I I realise the benefit of small purely pvp orientated groups. My post merely points out that this is prime time for some empire entities to get easy access to 0.0 space. Even a small group of ex SA corps could easily force G on the backfoot by forcing the question of sovreignty in G space. The problem is that if both sides fight in the others space, there are no real fights... ASCN could easily send a force up north and attack there but what would that achieve? Non-involved forces trying to claim space might have a better reason but then again G/IRON would be sure to come back and I doubt that empire entities have means to stop them from reclaiming their space. The only thing that this would achieve would be an end to the G/IRON offensive against ASCN or SA (is there still one aimed at SA, by the way?). ASCN would say that G/IRON lost and G/IRON would say that ASCN orchestrated the attack on their home territory. Judging from the speed with which the G/IRON vs. ASCN thread exploded, this would bring some interesting forum reading times. And ex-SA corps, while maybe having a reason to hate G/IRON just got dealt heavy blows. Can they muster to mount a logistically big offensive after the defeat of their alliance?
Darko1107	Posted - 2005.11.14 17:42:00 - [60] Edited by: Darko1107 on 14/11/2005 17:42:31 G arent a Superpower, Iron arent a superpower. G cant field huge blobs, Iron can field huge blobs, G's blobs have alot more experienced pilots, with tech II guns, Iron do not, overall, I would say G are more powerful. But at the end of the day, G/IRON are the superpower, without each other, they simply cannot field enough people, enough force, to contend with BoB or [5] for any sustained amount of time except in thier own back yard.

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