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Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:09:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-mv_zxFjP6Q#t=1857s
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Zxays
uncooperative freight company
37
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Posted - 2013.06.13 08:08:00 -
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What's next? -Facebook and Twitter integretion? The EVE-Client then twitters and facefarts how many boring hours you spent mining veldspar?
I may sound bitter, but I despise this social media crap.
EDIT: Oh... and what if google suddenly decides to massively push "google hangouts" and twitch.tv goes the way of the dodo like own3d did? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
8582
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Posted - 2013.06.13 08:09:00 -
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Veldspar mining hours reporting in: Lots.
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Jake Tzestu
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
23
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Posted - 2013.06.13 08:15:00 -
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Same old ccp..Making changes - fixing nothing. |

Signal11th
The Retirement Club
1010
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Posted - 2013.06.13 08:54:00 -
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Jake Tzestu wrote:Same old ccp..Making changes - fixing nothing.
How you can say that I'm shocked look at the intergration with Miniclip for that hacking game.  God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |

Endeavour Starfleet
858
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Posted - 2013.06.13 09:00:00 -
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There needs to be a change before this feature goes in. CCP will you please comment on this?
Twitch.tv is awesome and has revolutionized the way gaming is enjoyed in my opinion. If I am considering purchasing a game I can ask the host live about his experiences with the game he is broadcasting and this is helping to protect consumers from bad games.
However, EVE is different. And a glaring overpowered series of modules (my opinion and yes it is not considered an exploit by CCP) Can turn this good idea into yet another way for one group to get an advantage over a smaller group.
Yes what I am speaking of is the ability to go away from the computer while cloaked. If you go to Twitch.tv and the EVE section you will notice quite a few of the top streams are providing intel on systems with no real possibility to remove the person broadcasting from the area. And even if they could. The low cost of the module and ship to use it will mean they can simply return when the time is right.
CCP please answer this. Is this what you want to see happen with your Twitch SDK? If not. Will you finally take this time to address the ability to remain away from the client while cloaked? |

Sarmatiko
1207
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Posted - 2013.06.13 09:25:00 -
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So finally we will be able to one-click-stream those huge fps drops caused by unfixed particle clouds? New players will be attracted with such buggy experience for sure  -¥ |

Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1596
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Posted - 2013.06.13 10:00:00 -
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Add in more fluff, and ignore the **** that litters Eve. /ccp CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |

Maybelater Headache
Republic University Minmatar Republic
40
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Posted - 2013.06.13 12:47:00 -
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Selling the company would be easier with loads of cheesy effects and integration of social media, a must for the modern teenager. Oh wait...  |

Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
248
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:09:00 -
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I don't think you understand what they are likely talking about there. The reason is because probably none of the people posting here so far ever streamed anything on Twitch.
There is a number of games that has direct support from Twitch. Meaning, you can stream them directly without the use of e.g. XSPLIT.
That is the famous "Button" they are talking about. You push it on Twitch, telling Twitch: "I'm playing this game atm and I want to stream it." It is a service that will allow you, IF you want to stream, to do so directly. (And afaik, you need Twitch premium membership, but I don't play any of those games anyway & even if that was the case, I would still use XSPLIT for the additional options...)
I think it is actually a smart move by CCP, but really not a revolutionary new thing. (Even if you could "push the button" from the EVE client...) |
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bbb2020
Carebears with Attitude
55
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Posted - 2013.06.13 18:43:00 -
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Lets see! You made a forum tread based on the news, that CCP would put a new button in to the game, when (in the video) the really braking news was talked about, just a second later, in the same clip. New systems being added that players would have to find themself, and the ability to make jumpgates to those hidden systems and once in them - stations. Now that's braking news and worth a forum thread. Actually just made one myself. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
296
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Posted - 2013.06.13 18:54:00 -
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Zxays wrote:
I may sound bitter, but I despise this social media crap.
THEN GET OFF THE FING FORUM THEN "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Maybelater Headache
Republic University Minmatar Republic
40
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Posted - 2013.06.13 18:57:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Zxays wrote:
I may sound bitter, but I despise this social media crap.
THEN GET OFF THE FING FORUM THEN
An advice you should follow yourself. Or at least fix your caps lock.
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Jada Maroo
Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
1157
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Posted - 2013.06.13 18:57:00 -
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I should be able to watch Alliance Tournament on my CQ screen or on space billboards. |

Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
282
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Posted - 2013.06.13 19:02:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Zxays wrote:
I may sound bitter, but I despise this social media crap.
THEN GET OFF THE FING FORUM THEN
Actually, I think I feel him. I liked the old days when forums were the popular way to socialize on the internet. The group of people you were associating with were all there for the same thing so you had something in common, not like FB which doesn't really focus on anything, or youtube where people who don't even like something go watch a video of it and troll people who do. Or Twitter, where people can alert you the moment a turtlehead is poking out and share it with all their friends and followers. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
296
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Posted - 2013.06.13 19:07:00 -
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Maybelater Headache wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Zxays wrote:
I may sound bitter, but I despise this social media crap.
THEN GET OFF THE FING FORUM THEN An advice you should follow yourself. Or at least fix your caps lock.
I shall shout at the stupid if I wish sweetie xx "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
296
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Posted - 2013.06.13 19:08:00 -
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Kijo Rikki wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Zxays wrote:
I may sound bitter, but I despise this social media crap.
THEN GET OFF THE FING FORUM THEN Actually, I think I feel him. I liked the old days when forums were the popular way to socialize on the internet. The group of people you were associating with were all there for the same thing so you had something in common, not like FB which doesn't really focus on anything, or youtube where people who don't even like something go watch a video of it and troll people who do. Or Twitter, where people can alert you the moment a turtlehead is poking out and share it with all their friends and followers. ED: Obligatory crotchety response of "And I hate cell phones too and refuse to own one, I don't like the idea of my non-existent friends being able to annoy me while I'm out shopping or exercising my wrists and stuff."
Forums are still a form of social media though. That was my point. "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
282
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Posted - 2013.06.13 19:17:00 -
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I know, I just don't tend to associate forums with what I consider social media. I think of forums like small house parties with friends versus a night club. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
296
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Posted - 2013.06.13 19:26:00 -
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Kijo Rikki wrote:I know, I just don't tend to associate forums with what I consider social media. I think of forums like small house parties with friends versus a night club.
Fair enough, I can see where you are coming from there
Though Im not sure Id want to be at a house party that was like EO:GD lol "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
283
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Posted - 2013.06.13 19:32:00 -
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We'd all be sitting around a dinner table like that Family Guy bit about The Wasps Family. |
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Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
300
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Posted - 2013.06.13 19:33:00 -
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Kijo Rikki wrote:We'd all be sitting around a dinner table like that Family Guy bit about The Wasps Family.
lol indeed! "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Drax Concrilla
Amarrian Mercenary Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.06.13 19:42:00 -
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You might hate it, but it seems like a good move for EVE. Get some more streams going. /shrug. Not sure how I feel about it personally but if it helps EVE grow I'm alright with it...until facebook/twitter buttons pop up and take a SS of you in game. Then I will vomit. |

Zxays
uncooperative freight company
39
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Posted - 2013.06.13 19:46:00 -
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Aidan Brooder wrote:I don't think you understand what they are likely talking about there. The reason is because probably none of the people posting here so far ever streamed anything on Twitch.
1) There's probably a reason why most people here have not streamed anything yet. -Not everybody that has a wheener wants to show it to everyone he/she knows and/or doesn't know.
2) There is more than enough crappy content on the internets. I don't think we need more crappy content from people that are to effing stupid to install, setup and use XSPLIT/OBS.
3) FFS why do we need a twitch-button hardcoded in the game, besides ccp's background deals with twitch. -Of 'course it's all about the money.
4) A 10 minute how-to to OBS would have been way cheaper and would use no development time from ccp. And on top of that: With software like OBS you are able to us whatever streaming provider there is. -Don't like twitch, use something else. -Provider A is no more, use another one.
But yeah, why not. Add a twitch button and maybe some more shirts and boots to the N.E.X.-Shop, integrate KINECT and Wii-Mote control and achievments. -Go with the flow... why not annoy your customers like any other company... |

Endeavour Starfleet
858
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Posted - 2013.06.14 06:52:00 -
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Drax Concrilla wrote:You might hate it, but it seems like a good move for EVE. Get some more streams going. /shrug. Not sure how I feel about it personally but if it helps EVE grow I'm alright with it...until facebook/twitter buttons pop up and take a SS of you in game. Then I will vomit.
Again the thing is. Unless they address the ability to go away from the client while cloaked. A good chunk if not most of the new streams will be Intel streams of enemy systems with no real possibility of removing them. It won't even be people "playing" EvE and I doubt folks will be convinced to join EvE watching a staging system. |

space submarine
0
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Posted - 2013.06.14 07:13:00 -
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How could someone watch an EVE stream? I can see stuff like the Alliance Tournament but just normal gameplay? What? If people do this and enjoy it that's great but it really confuses me. |

Endeavour Starfleet
858
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Posted - 2013.06.14 07:24:00 -
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space submarine wrote:How could someone watch an EVE stream? I can see stuff like the Alliance Tournament but just normal gameplay? What? If people do this and enjoy it that's great but it really confuses me.
Watching newer players first days of EVE and asking questions would be healthy for EVE in my opinion. And help identify the remaining confusing aspects for newer players that can be addressed,
That assumes of course that the EVE Channel is not buried under a bunch of "CL0AKY INTEL DIS SYSTEM WITH MAh Music lol" Channels due to the current ability of the Cloaking module to go away from you computer for extended periods while cloaked. |

Zxays
uncooperative freight company
39
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Posted - 2013.06.14 07:36:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:cloaking this... cloaking that... mimimimimimi...
there are more than enough "i-got-ganked-by-somebody-who-isn't-even-playing-the-game-threads" don't you think? -there are more than 8000 Systems in eve, you should be able to find one where nobody is streaming your mining-session. |

Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
628
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Posted - 2013.06.14 07:40:00 -
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CCP needs an official killboard with full Facebook integration. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |

Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
3358
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Posted - 2013.06.14 08:01:00 -
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Kijo Rikki wrote:Actually, I think I feel him. Perv
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.co.uk/~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Endeavour Starfleet
858
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Posted - 2013.06.14 08:24:00 -
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Zxays wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:cloaking this... cloaking that... mimimimimimi... there are more than enough "i-got-ganked-by-somebody-who-isn't-even-playing-the-game-threads" don't you think? -there are more than 8000 Systems in eve, you should be able to find one where nobody is streaming your mining-session.
This is a direct aspect of streaming that is already happening. This is not a "what if" People are already making use of the cloaking system to broadcast enemy staging systems while not having to be at the computer. What I would like to know is if they intend for a good chunk if not most of the EVE streaming to be something that isn't gameplay in the least or even has the streamer there to interact with the viewers for more than a few mins after downtime as the cloak is set back up.
So again CCP will you please answer this? Do you intend this? If not. Will you address the abilities of the cloaking modules to discourage people from being away from their client (and streaming) while cloaked? |
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BadSeamus
Chaos Army
6
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Posted - 2013.06.14 10:12:00 -
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Streaming deployment systems for intel is part of the meta game. If you were smart you'd use it to your advantage and spread misinformation through it :) The fact that the technology exists outside the game, and CCP are bringing it (partly) inside the game should be applauded, not whined at.
Can you imagine fighting a war without an intelligence department...? Why do you want to believe capsuleers wouldn't have 'eyes on the enemy'? Intelligence and info are part of warfare - the person with the least, usually lo(oo)ses,
Of course there are plenty of people that hate the meta game. But eh, Eve is probably not for you.
One thing I want is for the streaming to be in my CQ. I want to be able to watch the AT in my CQ, sat on my couch, drinking space-quafe and smoking space-weed. Being able to flick through twitch channels on my CQ telly would finally give me a reason to get out of my pod.
SK |

Endeavour Starfleet
858
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Posted - 2013.06.14 19:54:00 -
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They would have to also find a way to program in the feed playing ads. That would really break the immersion you are trying to achieve by watching in the CQs in my opinion. |

Zircon Dasher
228
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Posted - 2013.06.14 20:55:00 -
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Remember how people use to ask for a video/overview feed to be piped into station.... and how people LOVED (no sarcasm) idea? Google will refresh your memory if not.
Nice of CCP to finally get around to player requested features!
also: lol Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'. |

Endeavour Starfleet
858
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Posted - 2013.06.15 14:02:00 -
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Again the issue with any kind of "Twitch tv or other video site to Station or Captain's quarters" Is that they would have to implement the way those sites serve ads. Not exactly easy (The site itself uses flash) Also they would have to implement an H264 decoder. (As it is a commercial game they would have to get a license to do this from the MPEG)
CCP any response to my question earlier? |

Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1079
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Posted - 2013.06.15 14:27:00 -
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This is really good news.
Hoping we can stream without the clunky UI or with custom UI's too. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Steve WingYip
Lumodynamics Power Control Corp Panda Cave
1097
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Posted - 2013.06.15 15:16:00 -
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Zxays wrote:What's next? -Facebook and Twitter integretion? The EVE-Client then twitters and facefarts how many boring hours you spent mining veldspar?
I may sound bitter, but I despise this social media crap.
EDIT: Oh... and what if google suddenly decides to massively push "google hangouts" and twitch.tv goes the way of the dodo like own3d did?
To be fair, most people have Twitch in the background watching other E-sports streams anyway. I personally welcome this. I would not welcome twitter or facebook because they are not gaming sites. However, twitch is a pure gaming site and what harm could come from this? |

Endeavour Starfleet
861
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Posted - 2013.06.15 15:30:00 -
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Well the "harm" would be an ingame one due to the current abilities of the cloaking series of modules. If those could be addressed so that it is no longer really an option to go AFK for an extended period of time in an enemy system then yes more Twitch.TV would be great for the game in my opinion. |

Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
267
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Posted - 2013.06.15 15:43:00 -
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Zxays wrote:Aidan Brooder wrote:I don't think you understand what they are likely talking about there. The reason is because probably none of the people posting here so far ever streamed anything on Twitch.
1) There's probably a reason why most people here have not streamed anything yet. -Not everybody that has a wheener wants to show it to everyone he/she knows and/or doesn't know. 2) There is more than enough crappy content on the internets. I don't think we need more crappy content from people that are to effing stupid to install, setup and use XSPLIT/OBS. *AND SOME OTHER STUFF*
1: Yeah, well, I heard some rumors about certain large alliances posting their actual wheeners.
2: If they really want to, they can learn to install XSPLIT/OBS quite quickly.
On the content note, there are many things you can do. Crappy stuff, good stuff.
Look at YT: Day of Darkness II, The three "Clear Skies" machinimas. They are excellent works. That all took a lot of time to produce. There are very well made Alliance ads on YT. etc. There is also a truckload of crap EVE videos, with people showing off their oh-so-brave kills. All fine. Don't watch them. Be selective.
The thing is YT, Twitch, Vimeo, Wordpress, Flickr, Amazon (self-published EBooks) etc give all us the ability to produce very easily. They cannot give all of us the talent or time. So there will always be a lot of crap. And there will always be something mediocre and some few masterpieces.
If you want to go back to the days where you had to beg someone to pleeease consider your book, music, video in their publishing house/label/TV station you are either a music producer with nostalgic remembrance of free favors given or you are a very much anachronistic example citizen of our confused global world (like myself... ;)).
Back on topic: I don't see many reasons to stream normal gameplay on Twitch.tv either. Mostly I use it sometimes when I play Blood Bowl or Guns of Icarus Online, and then only for select games. But others might e.g. create an EVE News Channel, or sell a password to others for certain intelligence service (Twitch allows for passworded channels) etc.
In short, like anything else, there will be smart uses for it and dumb uses for it.
As far as twitter goes: It has it uses. Facebook: I personally hate it so much, I would be banned from the forum if I gave my opinion on FB.
Just to show you I'm not comfortable with all forms of "social media" either. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |

Amarra Mandalin
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
623
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Posted - 2013.06.15 16:51:00 -
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Aidan Brooder wrote:I don't think you understand what they are likely talking about there. The reason is because probably none of the people posting here so far ever streamed anything on Twitch.
There is a number of games that has direct support from Twitch. Meaning, you can stream them directly without the use of e.g. XSPLIT.
If that's the case, I support this addition as long as the technical side doesn't cause any problems (e.g. wasted resources, performance etc.). |

Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
269
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Posted - 2013.06.15 17:07:00 -
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Amarra Mandalin wrote:Aidan Brooder wrote:I don't think you understand what they are likely talking about there. The reason is because probably none of the people posting here so far ever streamed anything on Twitch.
There is a number of games that has direct support from Twitch. Meaning, you can stream them directly without the use of e.g. XSPLIT.
If that's the case, I support this addition as long as the technical side doesn't cause any problems (e.g. wasted resources, performance etc.).
There will be, but on the client side. You need a computer fast enough and enough bandwidth to handle it. You can scale it down of course. But as an example, the computer I'm playing EVE on is a 2 years old HP Media computer atm. So truly not state of the art. My internet connection is fast and has a decent upload rate, but it is not exactly a semi-industrial line.
I think most people will be fine. If you work with a 56K modem out of a trailer, you will not.
And of course all that only applies when you turn streaming on. (You should also make sure you check how much bandwidth you use per hour or so, unless you have an ISP that gives you unlimited bandwidth.)
For me, streaming 3 hours in decent HD quality using XSPLIT and Twitch.tv costs me about 1gig of my monthly allowance. I never tried with EVE to be honest, but e.g. Guns of Icarus Online. And I could of course downtune it a lot. And still get good results.
When I record EVE with FRAPS though, which uses a much larger uncompressed format, I don't feel any impact on the game at all. (With FRAPS of course you don't have to worry about bandwidth, you are just recording... But the impact on your local hardware is harsher.)
Guess the answer would be: You can either use it, you can use it in a limited way. Or you try and never touch that button again afterwards. (Or upgrade...). Still, as said, I think for most it will work fine, unless they have very restrictive ISP or use antique hardware.)
Actually, I think I'll test an EVE Stream one of these days and see what I get out of it. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
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Amarra Mandalin
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
625
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Posted - 2013.06.15 17:21:00 -
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Aidan Brooder wrote: I think most people will be fine. If you work with a 56K modem out of a trailer, you will not.
LOL -- Thanks for the into.
You mentioned FRAPS -- you might check out Action!
I'm rather green with this stuff but hated converting the former and am having success with the later to include with large scale Mount & Blade battles.
There is a free trial as well. I really like it but I'm a casual user so there may be things about it FRAPs people don't like.
My PC should be OK, the CPU was really made for this kinda stuff (AMD 8350 FX) -- my dated (but decent) graphics card hopefully won't be as much an issue and I need more RAM anyway. I"m not sure about my ISP -- 10Mbps d/l -- 1.5 upload -- (the best I can get where I live) not sure about limits. |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1179
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:41:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:There needs to be a change before this feature goes in. CCP will you please comment on this?
Twitch.tv is awesome and has revolutionized the way gaming is enjoyed in my opinion. If I am considering purchasing a game I can ask the host live about his experiences with the game he is broadcasting and this is helping to protect consumers from bad games.
However, EVE is different. And a glaring overpowered series of modules (my opinion and yes it is not considered an exploit by CCP) Can turn this good idea into yet another way for one group to get an advantage over a smaller group.
Yes what I am speaking of is the ability to go away from the computer while cloaked. If you go to Twitch.tv and the EVE section you will notice quite a few of the top streams are providing intel on systems with no real possibility to remove the person broadcasting from the area. And even if they could. The low cost of the module and ship to use it will mean they can simply return when the time is right.
CCP please answer this. Is this what you want to see happen with your Twitch SDK? If not. Will you finally take this time to address the ability to remain away from the client while cloaked?
Right, because this kind of usage isn't available is any other form for a myriad of other live stream content provides or softwares (VLC). So, absolutely, this will ruin the game once Twitch is integrated. 
My concern is CCP doesn't have a good track record deploying revolutionizing features.....WiS anyone? How badly is it going to affect game performance? What happens when Twitch goes under? And will is create a condition of streaming exclusivity to Twitch by design and/or performance impact when utilizing third party streaming?
HTFU!...for the children! |

Endeavour Starfleet
882
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Posted - 2013.06.17 20:02:00 -
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The question is Do they intend for this to happen? Or will there finally be a change in the cloaking modules to address the ability to go away from the client while cloaked? Of course it is happening now. The most popular streams don't even show gameplay. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4277
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Posted - 2013.06.17 20:11:00 -
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I don't really think this makes much difference... perhaps a few seconds are saved by not having to tell someone else what is happening in the target system, they can see it for themselves. Since your spy will be on voice coms anyway, that's not much of an advantage. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Endeavour Starfleet
882
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Posted - 2013.06.17 20:13:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:I don't really think this makes much difference... perhaps a few seconds are saved by not having to tell someone else what is happening in the target system, they can see it for themselves. Since your spy will be on voice coms anyway, that's not much of an advantage.
What if your spy wants to go on a date? Or to school? No problem just activate cloak and you are good to go for intel. Now you don't even have to install Open Broadcaster!
Point is. It will and IS happening now. What I want to know from CCP. Is this REALLY what you want? Or you will finally take the time to do something about it? |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4277
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Posted - 2013.06.17 20:16:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:I don't really think this makes much difference... perhaps a few seconds are saved by not having to tell someone else what is happening in the target system, they can see it for themselves. Since your spy will be on voice coms anyway, that's not much of an advantage. What if your spy wants to go on a date? Or to school? No problem just activate cloak and you are good to go for intel. Now you don't even have to install Open Broadcaster! Point is. It will and IS happening now. What I want to know from CCP. Is this REALLY what you want? Or you will finally take the time to do something about it? If your spy wants to go on a date, use one of the thousands of other alt spys you have at your disposal (speaking on an alliance level). Spy alts are a dime a dozen.
This is simply one more way to achieve the same end, and still takes one account dedicated to sitting in that system. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
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