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Queue K'Umber
Lucky Golden Emperor's Jade Phoenix Dragon Bistro
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Posted - 2011.10.22 20:06:00 -
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Do any of you ever get an honest 1v1 or do the fights usually involve command ship alts, neutral remote repair help or other shenanigans?
It really looks like one or both parties will involve neutral remote repair or command ship alts or even corp mates in every single instance.
Any experience to the contrary?
Is the only lesson to be learned that you must out-shenanigan your opponent as opposed to simply being the better trained and higher skilled pilot?
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Mfume Apocal
Origin.
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.10.22 20:21:00 -
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Queue K'Umber wrote:Any experience to the contrary?
Is the only lesson to be learned that you must out-shenanigan your opponent as opposed to simply being the better trained and higher skilled pilot?
Welcome to EVE-Online, the internet spaceship MMORPG. You sound like you're new. |
Mystical Might
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2011.10.22 20:23:00 -
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Queue K'Umber wrote:Do any of you ever get an honest 1v1 or do the fights usually involve command ship alts, neutral remote repair help or other shenanigans?
Get out of high-sec?
Queue K'Umber wrote:
Is the only lesson to be learned that you must out-shenanigan your opponent as opposed to simply being the better trained and higher skilled pilot?
Being better trained, or having more skillpoints actually means nothing.
I second what Mfume said. You seem new.
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Queue K'Umber
Lucky Golden Emperor's Jade Phoenix Dragon Bistro
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Posted - 2011.10.22 20:30:00 -
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Mystical Might wrote:Queue K'Umber wrote:Do any of you ever get an honest 1v1 or do the fights usually involve command ship alts, neutral remote repair help or other shenanigans?
Get out of high-sec? Queue K'Umber wrote:
Is the only lesson to be learned that you must out-shenanigan your opponent as opposed to simply being the better trained and higher skilled pilot?
Being better trained, or having more skillpoints actually means nothing. I second what Mfume said. You seem new.
Not new.
Curious about the experiences of those that engage in this sort of PvP.
I love lowsec and my main(s) inhabit lowsec almost exclusively.
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lag kills
Original Sin.
Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2011.10.22 21:00:00 -
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honor and fairness are overrated and have no place here. |
Mara Abraham
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.10.22 21:32:00 -
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Good day:
One time I tried to do a 1v1 in Rens, and the Rifter pilot had a neutral guardian alt that remote repped him; I lost.
When I asked why; he replied he wanted to win.
Lesson learned / reinforced.
Thank you.
--- Mara Abraham
* http://www.factionalwarfare.info/
* http://evepiratelife.com/ |
Abbadon21
Cosmic Cimmerians
The G0dfathers
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Posted - 2011.10.23 00:43:00 -
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Never do a 1vs1 outside a station unless you plan to cheat more than your opponent.
Have a look at this article for how to force a fair 1vs1: http://www.eveproguides.com/the-1vs1/#more-412
Learn How PRO Players Make Billions of ISK and Dominate PVP: http://www.EVEProGuides.com |
Sevena Black
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.27 09:02:00 -
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Did a 1 vs1 rifter fight outside a station once (a long long time ago). Mutual agreement was we would use t1 stuff (I was a n00b). I died. So I asked for a rematch. I refitted and won. Some random dude from the same startercorp looted the other guys wreck and went all emo. Turns out my opponent had a full t2 & faction fit. The random dude stole all his stuff out of spite haha.
The "cheater" didn't use alts, reppers or stuff like that tho. |
Adam Kirwen
The Eleusinian Mystery Cult
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Posted - 2011.10.27 11:25:00 -
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Mara Abraham wrote:
One time I tried to do a 1v1 in Rens, and the Rifter pilot had a neutral guardian alt that remote repped him; I lost.
A remotely repped Rifter? My God! Sad bastard of the day award goes to - that guy.
To the OP: Go to low-sec. Contrary to popular opinion, there are plenty of honourable pilots in low-sec. You will find honest 1 vs 1. |
Mara Abraham
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.10.27 13:37:00 -
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Good day:
Ditto on going low security space.
Thank you.
--- Mara Abraham
* http://www.factionalwarfare.info/
* http://evepiratelife.com/ |
Zoe Alarhun
The Proactive Reappropriation Corporation
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Posted - 2011.10.27 14:03:00 -
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Yes come join us - pew pew is gun in low sec. |
Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2011.10.27 14:41:00 -
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Come to low sec....
Scorpionidae 
If you see my sig... Like me plz? I feel unloved.
Every Day I be Trolling |
ExiledMoon
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.27 14:49:00 -
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Or join Red Vs Blue.
Just sayin...
o7 |
Killstealing
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:05:00 -
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just reinforce some of their POSes if it ticks you off that much |
Goose99
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:10:00 -
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Go to lolzsec and get dropped on by the blob. Some ppl are masochist like that.
There is no 1v1 in eve. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:43:00 -
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I don't understand what you expect to learn from high-sec station games - except he who reps hardest wins.
As to getting hotdropped - yeah it happens but it happens pretty infrequently. Bigger the blob the more chance there is. Bit like nature in that respect 
Low-sec and npc null-sec are all pretty quiet now - go for a wander. One of my alts has been in what is supposedly one of the best npc nullsec areas for a while and all I've seen is ratters. There have been a couple of small (10-20) gangs go by but its happy-clappy land out here. The ratters tend not to warp to a POS as soon as you enter so at least they're probably real people
tl;dr - want to go try low-sec/null-sec then there has never been a better time. Go look at dotlan - its dead in npc null and lowsec. |
Kari Trace
Nox Imperium
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Posted - 2011.10.27 17:50:00 -
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Adam Kirwen wrote:Mara Abraham wrote:
One time I tried to do a 1v1 in Rens, and the Rifter pilot had a neutral guardian alt that remote repped him; I lost.
A remotely repped Rifter? My God! Sad bastard of the day award goes to - that guy. To the OP: Go to low-sec. Contrary to popular opinion, there are plenty of honourable pilots in low-sec. You will find honest 1 vs 1.
This...
just watch yourself and not fall into a roaming gang and you're good to pew all day... |
alden good
TR0LL CAVE
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Posted - 2011.10.27 20:36:00 -
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m8 i do honest 1v1 outside jita station. i do have a neut rr ready but only if i c the other guy getting reps. the thing is i do frig 1v1 fights so i dont understand why ppl r scared to lose a frig fight the most ull lose is wat maybe 15 mil for an expensive frig unless u faction fit it but if yr losing a faction fit frig to a t2 fit frig then u deserve to die  |
Borun Tal
Space Pods Inc
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Posted - 2011.10.27 21:12:00 -
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Hasn't this been discussed like 100 times already this month? Does the search feature not work for you, OP?
Curious minds, and all that... |
Demon Azrakel
Defiant..
Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.10.27 21:54:00 -
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I have gotten fair fights, but I keep doing stupid **** like forgetting drones and breaking my reps... |
Green Beans
Combat Pigs
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Posted - 2011.10.29 06:35:00 -
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But then, trolling will not earn you any Bean Cake Points (which are useless). On the other hand, so please be a little more beanlike and instead of being mean, actually help the poor OP out. You would want not the same to you, right?
Wanna join a noob-friendly mission running corporation? Lookie here!-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=130809&#post130809 |
Theodoric Darkwind
PonyWaffe
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.29 08:28:00 -
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If your looking for pvp highsec isn't the place to find it, unless your in RvB.
Joining a pvp corp in lowsec or nullsec is your best bet generally. If you want to avoid large blobs and mostly do small gang stuff stick to non-FW lowsec and NPC nullsec. FW fleets tend to get blobby and Sov nullsec is the home of huge blob warfare. If larger fleets are your thing then look into FW or joining a Sov holding nullsec alliance.
For solo stuff, best you can do is ask for 1v1s and hope they honor it. A lot of lowsec pirates will honor 1v1s. Other problem with lowsec is it isn't frigate friendly, gate and station guns heavily limit where you can agress with a frigate. In nullsec you can shoot anyone, anywhere but get to deal with bubbles and roaming blobs, and never expect 1v1s to be honored (if you want an example, last weekend I engaged a crow on a gate with my dramiel and 20 of his buddies jumped in the instant I tackled him lol, I still managed to escape). |
Disastro
Wrecking Shots
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.10.29 11:30:00 -
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Queue K'Umber wrote:Do any of you ever get an honest 1v1 or do the fights usually involve command ship alts, neutral remote repair help or other shenanigans?
It really looks like one or both parties will involve neutral remote repair or command ship alts or even corp mates in every single instance.
Any experience to the contrary?
Is the only lesson to be learned that you must out-shenanigan your opponent as opposed to simply being the better trained and higher skilled pilot?
In high sec 1 v 1 fights i always found that the cheaper the ships involved the less likely there would be cheating. But even in frigates there will always be a few.... who just cant stand losing. |
Demon View
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.29 12:12:00 -
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Theodoric Darkwind wrote:and never expect 1v1s to be honored (if you want an example, last weekend I engaged a crow on a gate with my dramiel
I know, right? Last weekend I engaged a noctis with my purifier, and that sad cheap dishonorable coward called in his corpies.
Pirate frigs are another problem you'll have to face in low and null, OP.
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Adam Kirwen
The Eleusinian Mystery Cult
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Posted - 2011.10.30 15:03:00 -
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You know, usually seeing 1 vs 1 being dishonoured makes me sad, but when it happpens to a Dramiel pilot, well, they've got it coming to them. |
Azelor Delaria
Error-404
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Posted - 2011.10.30 20:08:00 -
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Queue K'Umber wrote:Do any of you ever get an honest 1v1 or do the fights usually involve command ship alts, neutral remote repair help or other shenanigans?
It really looks like one or both parties will involve neutral remote repair or command ship alts or even corp mates in every single instance.
Any experience to the contrary?
Is the only lesson to be learned that you must out-shenanigan your opponent as opposed to simply being the better trained and higher skilled pilot?
Speaking from a Dodixie standpoint, the only people you can count on in that system to uphold 1v1 agreements are:
Axel Greye
Anya Klibor
Azelor Delaria
Commander Godsmack
While Anya Klibor and Azelor Delaria are me, I had a reputation prior to moving to Amarr space for a time in which I was well-known for honoring 1v1s. Now, yes, I do usually have neutral RR on standby, but the truth is I don't use it unless you bring in yours first. T1 frigates and cruisers are dirt cheap. I want some fun fights! :) |
Shamefuldirty
Black Sheep Squadron VMA214
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Posted - 2011.10.30 21:02:00 -
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I asked for a Tech I frigate fitted fight but the guy just brought out a faction fitted ship and told me after I died how he basically cheated so he could get a kill. I have yet to meet a single person in Eve who honours a proper 1vs1 fight in high sec. It's all about the killmails isn't it. One guy told me he sits just on top of the dock in a station in Hek where he can't be orbited or bumped and can insta dock if he starts to lose too much. Just don't get involved in future, leave them to it if they feel tough sitting on top of stations all day repping themselves. |
Dek'athor
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.01 07:04:00 -
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Shamefuldirty wrote: I have yet to meet a single person in Eve who honours a proper 1vs1 fight in high sec.
* make a few safe spots (4-5 or so is good)
* Go to the station and offer your 1v1
* Invite the dude that accepts to your fleet
* Go to one of your safe spots
* drop the can
* Hilarity ensues
* If you win keep warping between the other safe spots for 15 mins to let aggression timer expire
this does the following
1. Invalidates his boosters (since it's a 2 person fleet, each can see that there's no special boosting involved on one side).
2. Invalidates neutral RR - no RR at the safe spot for eighter one, he can see/confirm there's no RR at the safespot before taking the can.
3. Invalidates his corpies coming for help (barring scanning you down)
It's not 100% full proof, but is as close as it gets to assuring a fair fight. There is another weak point to strategy but I won't go into details now. |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.11.01 15:35:00 -
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LOL @ high sec PvP
Is sexy time? |
Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.11.01 21:41:00 -
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I recently moved into low sec for the first time for FW, and I must say, i've found a lot more people who will honor 1v1's, then in high sec.
And regarding Dixie, I've seen axel do many 1v1's, but I saw him getting RR from his Nova Ardour buddies, honor lost! =P |
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