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Ywev
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Posted - 2003.08.09 17:55:00 -
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According to the recent number of posts, there seems to be too many pirate corps. In which this translates into less profit for m0o. This bothers me, more than the alliances holding bistot. Actions may result in your further pirating.
Pod ya later..
Ywev
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Drake Ramirez
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Posted - 2003.08.09 18:02:00 -
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sweet 
Drake Ramirez
When everything else is said and done, there will be nothing else to say or do... |
Algazara
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Posted - 2003.08.09 18:31:00 -
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ymev..you bother me.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.09 18:33:00 -
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I agree, these young gun pirate corps need to be smacked back down to size. I fear they will be the first victims of the enhanced tracking abilities soon to be available.
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Milos Oberonov
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Posted - 2003.08.09 18:53:00 -
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I don't understand... what's the problem with pirate clams?
Do they make bad chowder, or what?
"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will one day plow for those who don't." -T. Jefferson |
Kristopher Michael
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Posted - 2003.08.09 19:06:00 -
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I agree.
To many people are trying to become pirates. If there are not more miners trained within the next generation I fear that all of our kind, Gallente, Amarr, Caldari, Mimitar, will surely face technological set backs. Can you imagen if their is no more isogen to power our terraformers?
Now dont get me wrong, pirating is viable, and it helps the universe's econocmy thrive when kept in check. I strongly encourage M0o and other more respectable pirate corps to weed out those lesser pirate corps. That way our universes economy will stay strong. And we may contiinue our existence in EVE.
Till next transmission,
Kristopher out.
=Kristopher Michael=
-Merlin Pilot Extrodinaire-
"I wish we had a snapshot of Kristopher Michael shooting Shollos in the back of his Scorpion with a merlin, i think he did nearly Six Hundred Damage to him" -Rabid Kristopher Michael Fan- |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.09 19:12:00 -
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Saves us the job of doing it I s'pose.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
SISQO
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Posted - 2003.08.09 21:44:00 -
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A good start is having moo/sin/si declare war on Orion Syndicate, they are wannabe pirates.
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smoked
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Posted - 2003.08.09 22:23:00 -
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okay about this pirate thing, there isn't really pirates in eve, there is this:
people who know how to fire guns
people who know how to fire mining lazers
in all situations the mining lazer people graduate to guns because they must learn to defend themself.
TTi: is just a poor excuse for a pirate corp, with thier 'space invaders' alt corp like give me a break.
RUS: is just another pirate corp who didn't get any spot light until SA kicked their arses back outta stain.
m0o: well they were probably always going to be a pirate corp only until after M3G4 did the obe massicre m0o wasn't even known.
M3G4: B-12 I sank your battleship!
anyone else: your going to become a person who can defend yourself (pirate deemed) eventually or your going to get no where in eve. it's just that simple.
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Xyber
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Posted - 2003.08.10 00:33:00 -
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Pirates don't need to attack these fellow pirate wannabe's, just wait till they have actually ****ed somone off and they'll prolly break as soon as a bigger corp comes in to break up there little fun.
--- Sig ---
We've all dealt with it. In-game customer support. You would think that by now game companies might start to clue into the fact that a player whose run into a problem is already in a bad mood. So why design a support system around just ****ing them off all the more?
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Psycosis Volt
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Posted - 2003.08.10 03:03:00 -
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It's a sad day when you see pirates fighting pirates. Then you know the carebears have won.
-I'll fry your mind |
namnocami
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Posted - 2003.08.10 03:34:00 -
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i totally agree, the little upstarts are giving u 'good ol pirates' a bad name (if that makes sense)
they turn up just 2-6 of them and try to scare cash out of corps, by simply shooting a indy or 2, but as soon as 1 cruiser turns up to face them they run.
at least with the big established (pirate) corps you know where you stand (ussually shot to pieces) but at least they will stay to kick your ass if you do try to fight them.
if you havnt guessed it, ive recently been bugged by a couple of the new upstarts and they NEVER stand and fight, even when they outnumber and out class me (in ship n e way). that just gets really annoying, (to run and hide from a single celestis, when they had 2 x black birds, a stabber and a merlin, shows just how good they r)
so, please everyone get to nukeing the upstarts and leave the pirating to the professional pirates (if you know what i mean)(im not a pirate by the way - and dont want to be)
at least i know where to go and not be harrassed by them,(look on the map and look for the green dot of death)
thats me done.
Namnocami
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Jiere LaFortune
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Posted - 2003.08.10 04:36:00 -
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It's a sad day when you see pirates fighting pirates. Then you know the carebears have won.
Carebears have nothing to do with it. Too many pirates not enough good guys. That's the problem.
you should look at the possitive side though. Think of it as a clinic. m0o will teach you what it means to be a real pirate.
Pirate Bravado |
Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.08.10 04:49:00 -
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Problem is too many of the so called good guys are too busy protecting their little place in space attacking asteroids instead of combating piracy. :)
Most are too scared to leave their little carebear homes too.
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Jiere LaFortune
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Posted - 2003.08.10 05:02:00 -
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too true, but those aren't real good guys.
Pirate Bravado |
Falwyn Everwyl
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Posted - 2003.08.10 05:14:00 -
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Quite simply, it's because people are getting fed up with being in a no-way-out situation. Most 'pirates' will shoot on sight, and accept their payment as being whatever is left over, without even bothering to try to stop someone for a toll. Have this happen to you a few times, and you're going to either quit, or decide to do it yourself.
Very little happens to those 'pirates' that shoot on sight, as they are usually run off by a force of equal size or greater, only to return a few hours later. They rarely lose their ships. And look at the map, they can blockade .4 security sectors successfully, prevent people from going into 0.0 sectors, and kill people in 1.0 security sectors. The pirate has the most freedom in the game.
The above may not be true, but this is what the new pirates see. A way to play the game, have fun, and not lose their ships in the process. It's easier to survive if you're the one doing the attacking, and not being the defender. Being the defender usually means you're dead. Being the attacker usually means you're the one picking through cans at the end of the battle.
Unless CCP does something to separate the pirates from the miners, and adjust their respective capabilities accordingly, they're going to end up with a game full of pirates, and little else.
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Angelus Ice
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Posted - 2003.08.10 05:51:00 -
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Haha, more pirates than non? What? Are you smoking something dude?
Also, there really is no problem, Eve is turning into what the developers wanted, PvP. Notice why more people are becoming aggressive, because theyve mined their whole lives and have achieved BS's and so forth, and now want to have fun with it. It's pretty simple.
And if you go against the old standard of an enemy of my enemy is my friend, then you are just plain stupid, not to mention ignorant.
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I will take you with my Battleship, my Plasma rifle or my Knife...It doesen't matter, But I will take you..I'll Fry your mind.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2003.08.10 06:04:00 -
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Algazara... Jove bother you..
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.08.10 06:34:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Raynor on 10/08/2003 06:35:51
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Quite simply, it's because people are getting fed up with being in a no-way-out situation. Most 'pirates' will shoot on sight, and accept their payment as being whatever is left over, without even bothering to try to stop someone for a toll. Have this happen to you a few times, and you're going to either quit, or decide to do it yourself.
Very little happens to those 'pirates' that shoot on sight, as they are usually run off by a force of equal size or greater, only to return a few hours later. They rarely lose their ships. And look at the map, they can blockade .4 security sectors successfully, prevent people from going into 0.0 sectors, and kill people in 1.0 security sectors. The pirate has the most freedom in the game.
The above may not be true, but this is what the new pirates see. A way to play the game, have fun, and not lose their ships in the process. It's easier to survive if you're the one doing the attacking, and not being the defender. Being the defender usually means you're dead. Being the attacker usually means you're the one picking through cans at the end of the battle.
Unless CCP does something to separate the pirates from the miners, and adjust their respective capabilities accordingly, they're going to end up with a game full of pirates, and little else.
You strike me as someone who honestly has no idea what being a pirate is about. It's not an easy profession, there is danger, people do come after you.
First of all, people with a clue, are basically impossible to kill in Eve, that 10 second grace period really leaves you quite a bit of time to get out of dodge. Only people who try to run blockades die.
Also pirates win in PvP because pirates know HOW to PvP. You wouldnt believe how many battleships I have destroyed and looted the most pathetic modules and CRAP they were equip'd with. A lot of people with battleships are just total NEWBIES and have no idea how to defend themselves. That's not my problem though.
Just because people can mine for battleships doesn't mean they have a clue how to use them and survive PvP with them. :)
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Angelus Ice
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Posted - 2003.08.10 07:26:00 -
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Amen to that. I hate seeing newbs in battleships. Although it is funny sometimes seeing a battleship not be able to kill a cruiser....
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I will take you with my Battleship, my Plasma rifle or my Knife...It doesen't matter, But I will take you..I'll Fry your mind.
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Quantum Matrix
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Posted - 2003.08.10 07:37:00 -
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Smoked,
You forgot:
M3G4, The most laughed-at 'pirate' corp ever seen in Eve. You guys got kicked out of everywhere by everyone. :)
Guess I'll go back to my 'main' and mine for TTI now.
-QM
What do we want?
Brains!
When do we want them?
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Ecchus
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Posted - 2003.08.10 07:57:00 -
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Amen to that. I hate seeing newbs in battleships. Although it is funny sometimes seeing a battleship not be able to kill a cruiser....
Even funnier is when a pirate in a battleship can't manage to take down an indy before it jumps.
(see my addition to the "Pirate Stories" thread.)
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Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee..
- Melville.
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.08.10 09:01:00 -
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The reason even the gentleman pirates started to just shoot everyone is that with all the recent carebear self-awareness people are becoming more thick headed every day.
Everybody tries to run, log off, fight back, call in corpmembers or wtfever. And in the end it will only get them destroyed and podkilled.
6 or so weeks ago, I would have some cash in my wallet, but nowadays I just have a load of biomass in my hangar and occasionally a proto or something to sell. I can't say I like this new development at all.
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Shinana
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Posted - 2003.08.10 09:07:00 -
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Edited by: Shinana on 10/08/2003 09:08:51
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The reason even the gentleman pirates started to just shoot everyone is that with all the recent carebear self-awareness people are becoming more thick headed every day.
Everybody tries to run, log off, fight back, call in corpmembers or wtfever. And in the end it will only get them destroyed and podkilled.
6 or so weeks ago, I would have some cash in my wallet, but nowadays I just have a load of biomass in my hangar and occasionally a proto or something to sell. I can't say I like this new development at all.
Amen to that. But I say let em, I like the variety of threats that I get. "30 BSes are coming for you", "A fleet of cruisers is on its way", and my personal favorite "You...you...you'll pay for this you <insert favorite explicative>". Sadly, no one ever puts a bounty on me :(
As a side note, I had someone try to log off today. I was going to ask him for 1 mil, but I guess the .3Million mex I got off him will have to do :/
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Wolf Leader
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Posted - 2003.08.10 09:11:00 -
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Lol i personally love the "Do you just know u've officially become an enemy of the stain alliance" thats been my faviorite one so far. Been about a month and i've yet to see the wrath of the skidmarks from hell come down upon me. Cmon guys come get me im waiting
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2003.08.10 11:09:00 -
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Edited by: Aodha Khan on 10/08/2003 11:10:49
Too many people are trying to become pirates? I doubt that. Look at the numbers of normal corps v pirate corps. Look at the number of people in these corps and you'll find that pirate corps are well outnumbered but also usually have a smaller number of employees.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |
PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.08.10 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: PropanElgen on 10/08/2003 11:19:42
Well all the veteran pirate corps should team up and rid EVE of those vermin called TTI.
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away...
Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.08.10 11:35:00 -
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Well SI is allied with TTi so that won't happen and even if we weren't SI doesn't lend itself for mercenary business. Besides, I think m0onister is already working on that :P
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Ascorbius
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Posted - 2003.08.10 11:36:00 -
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It's probably more down to perception than anything else. There are a LOT of corps, there are an awful lot of miners and there are a few pirates. The miners learn how to fire guns to fend off the NPC pirates and most of them are happy drilling rocks all day.
Then along come a couple of pirates, who know how to attack, defend and are loaded out with decent kit, most of which is not available on the normal market and start to tear the place apart. The miners (mostly the noobs) feel powerless and think the whole game is against them.
Like I said, it's all down to perception. The pirates have trained to use decent kit and they've sourced the good stuff so they're gonna be good at fighting. The miners have trained mining and maybe got some decent mining gear and can eat roids for breakfast.
There is a point in here somewhere... oh here it is.
If all a pirate does is blow players out of the sky because the players don't respond to "1m isk or else", if they've given up even asking, then there's something wrong with the pirate, they've just become killers and are not role playing anymore. By not being offered a chance, the non pirates will only feel powerless and may turn to piracy as they think is the only way they can survive.
If a non pirate tries to log off or makes immature OOC threats against the pirate without thinking of a way to get out using the game rules, then they're not role playing either and desreve what they get.
And any players using exploits are not role playing and spoil it for everyone.
There are not more pirates, there are just pirates. People need to learn how to defend themselves against them or they need (legal)tactics to outsmart them and get away.
And they need to remember, Eve is massive and there's enough room for everyone. If it's too hot in the kitchen, go sit in the living room.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2003.08.10 13:04:00 -
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"Only people who try to run blockades die."
This statement is not true. Many people run blockades with the right equipment and live to tell the tale
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