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Posted - 2013.06.16 14:56:00 -
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Nyancat Audeles wrote:Cost is not a balancing factor? What? Which part is causing you problems?
Cost is not a balancing factor. High cost does not balance out high performance; low cost does not balance out low performance. If something is good, it doesn't matter how much it costs because money is trivial to come by GÇö people will get it and ignore the cheaper and worse stuff.
Quote:Then that must be totally why CCP increased BS mineral requirements No. The reason they increased BS mineral requirements was to get rid of the silly tiering structure GÇö one of the components being that certain ships were easier to build for no good reason.
Quote:It also must be why CCP lowered LP prices on the Navy Battlecruisers? No. The reason they did that was to increase availability. Cost is a result, not a factor in anything.
Quote:Also, just saying - "generalizing" a T3 - making it so a T3 can be fitted like a HAC but never perform as good as one, or be fitted like a recon but never perform as good as one - will make a T3 absolutely useless. No, it will make them balanced. No cruiser should be as good as, or better than, the HAC in doing the HAC's role.
Quote:What is the OP actually referring to? Is there actually some factual basis to back up the OPs whinging, or is it simply unsubstantiated whinging as usual? Nothing. He's just misread a few dev statements and invented some particular doom that is (not really) coming our way that he desperately wants to avoidGǪ
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Posted - 2013.06.16 17:12:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:So, how do you know what to whine about? Imagination is an amazing gift.
GǪusuallyGǪ when it doesn't cross over into hallucination. 
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Posted - 2013.06.16 17:23:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Yep, but this thread is full of "it already happened, unleash nerdrage now!" statements. So convincing I started to think I got some strange forum ban where I can only see whine without seeing which CCP dev's post caused it. My god, that was terrible feeling... Oh, don't worry. When it happens, it'll be impossible not to notice (but as always, some will succeed anyway). This is just the preparatory stage when people are gearing up for the inevitable threadnought and testing out which arguments hold any water and which don't.
So far, they're all in the Gǣdon'tGǥ column except for maybe the claim that T3s don't fully offer the versatility and adaptability they're supposed toGǪ And even then, it's not an argument against nerfs, but rather a reflection of what makes T3 rebalancing so needed.
Everything else is just a variation of GÇ£I paid to be overpowered, so therefore I deserve to not be subject to balancingGÇ¥ (never mind that being overpowered is the primary reason for being subject to balancing, and that prices are irrelevant).
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:35:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:FALSE. OkGǪ
Quote:The fact is that some people pay a premium for a machine that is better than everyone else's. So, not actually false, then. In fact, you just illustrated perfectly how right he is.
The fact is that cost is not a balancing factors and that Ferrari vs. Honda is not a game mechanic that needs balancing.
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Posted - 2013.06.20 00:49:00 -
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Nyancat Audeles wrote:And people like you ignore the effect the nerf would have on hisec activities. This would kill missioners with T3's, it would kill, absolutely DECIMATE Incursioners So not much of an effect at all, then.
The mission-runners could switch to HACs and the incursioners could join the remaining 90% in whatever they're flying (or, like the mission-runners, switch to HACs).
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Posted - 2013.06.20 01:16:00 -
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Nyancat Audeles wrote:This would only be viable if HACs received a large, large buff... GǪas they should. Well, for the Incursion part, perhaps. They're already entirely viable for missions.
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Posted - 2013.06.20 02:47:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:It disrupts the trend of all cruisers being viable level 4 mission boats... oh wait... no T3s being able to do missions disrupts the trend of cruisers NOT being able to do level 4 missions. GǪexcept that there is no such trends. There are plenty of cruisers that can do L4s just fine.
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Posted - 2013.06.20 02:59:00 -
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Jaan Thiesant wrote:Nah, you must Caldari Navy all the Tengu slots if you want to save the Damsel and leave untouched-ábe alpha:d on the gate like a true hero. Zor wil pay for this, oh yes. Close, but easy enough to fix. 
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